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Livestock/General Farming photo thread TAKE #2 ::::RULES IN 1st POST::::

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    #4172
    Reggie.
    Registered Users Posts: 24,450 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    Muckit wrote: »
    We had a great KT meeting recently on calf health. A qualified vet turned farm consultant/ advisor gave great info on topic of calf health. Amazing the energy young calves burn trying to keep themselves warm.

    A suckler calf has a great fighing chance compared to his bucket rared comrade in this regard. A good mother will shelter him on the leeward side of her and once she is well fed, her body heat will heat him. Her milk also has a higher fat content for energy.

    Contrast this to an often damp straw bed (knee test), poor drainage, poor ventilation, bad draught all in a big airy shed which they can't lift the stale air out of....

    Would the calf jackets not help in that regard


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    #4173
    Mooooo
    Registered Users Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    Reggie. wrote: »
    Would the calf jackets not help in that regard

    Biggest thing is plenty straw. Have bark mulch under straw here calves doing fine on it helps keep pens a drier for longer. Plenty milk then.


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    #4174
    Limestone Cowboy
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    Muckit wrote: »
    We had a great KT meeting recently on calf health. A qualified vet turned farm consultant/ advisor gave great info on topic of calf health. Amazing the energy young calves burn trying to keep themselves warm.

    A suckler calf has a great fighing chance compared to his bucket rared comrade in this regard. A good mother will shelter him on the leeward side of her and once she is well fed, her body heat will heat him. Her milk also has a higher fat content for energy.

    Contrast this to an often damp straw bed (knee test), poor drainage, poor ventilation, bad draught all in a big airy shed which they can't lift the stale air out of....

    Cows are very clever that way, I couldn't count the amount of times I spent a few hours looking for a young calf on a bad day only to find him stuck in a hedge under small blacthorns sleeping away and as dry as a cork. Very rarely have a case of pneumonia here and they are all out all the time.


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    #4175
    Muckit
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    Reggie. wrote: »
    Would the calf jackets not help in that regard

    Recons a calf should be getting at least 900g of milk powder during cold weather. Also said rhe first few months of a calfs life are crucial. Scary the amount of calves that aren't putting on weight or very little... some as little as a kg.... a week. They will be a screw for life if not thriving from the get go.


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    #4176
    Muckit
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    Reggie. wrote: »
    Would the calf jackets not help in that regard

    He reckoned that there's something seriously wrong if you are using jackets and finding them good

    Calves lying by a wall....... means straw is too wet. The wall zaps their and they'll get it hard to warm themselves. A draft of over 2m/sec a disaster too


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    #4177
    White Clover
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    Muckit wrote: »
    Recons a calf should be getting at least 900g of milk powder during cold weather. Also said rhe first few months of a calfs life are crucial. Scary the amount of calves that aren't putting on weight or very little... some as little as a kg.... a week. They will be a screw for life if not thriving from the get go.

    The "rearing" of calves by some people can be a very feeble attempt. Skimping at every turn. False economy if there ever was....


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    #4178
    sonnybill
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    Muckit wrote: »
    He reckoned that there's something seriously wrong if you are using jackets and finding them good

    Calves lying by a wall....... means straw is too wet. The wall zaps their and they'll get it hard to warm themselves. A draft of over 2m/sec a disaster too

    I've three jackets on the go on rotation, if calf born early in day and fully dry and good suck got he sound, lad the last night in that pic was big dopey and born at 11pm.. She lied down and cold was zapping the life out of him and he hadn't sucked, towelled him , jacket on and got him sucking and it saved his life for sure ..I'll pull it off him after this cold snap

    I left a jacket on one lad and he grew so quick that the straps marked underneath his rear thighs! Couldn't get near him to let out some more slack !!


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    #4179
    jimmy G M
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    Here's a Blonde calf out of a BFR x AA cow.

    Thought Blonde would come much the same as Charolais so very surprised to see this lady


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    #4180
    Muckit
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    All sound, no picture :D


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    #4181
    BigSteaks
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    jimmy G M wrote: »
    Here's a Blonde calf out of a BFR x AA cow.

    Thought Blonde would come much the same as Charolais so very surprised to see this lady

    You have better eye site than most of us. I cant see anything!


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    #4182
    jimmy G M
    Registered Users Posts: 1,147 ✭✭✭jimmy G M


    BigSteaks wrote: »
    You have better eye site than most of us. I cant see anything!

    Well puc this phone. Ill post later from the laptop


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    #4183
    BigSteaks
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    jimmy G M wrote: »
    Well puc this phone. Ill post later from the laptop

    No worries Jimmy, we are all having a few beers tonight. No school tomorrow :)


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    #4184
    jimmy G M
    Registered Users Posts: 1,147 ✭✭✭jimmy G M


    jimmy G M wrote: »
    Here's a Blonde calf out of a BFR x AA cow.

    Thought Blonde would come much the same as Charolais so very surprised to see this lady

    Finally...


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    #4185
    jimmy G M
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    Feeding a few out wintered heifers this evening. Twas Baltic.


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    #4186
    BigSteaks
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    jimmy G M wrote: »
    Feeding a few out wintered heifers this evening. Twas Baltic.

    Jesus super stock. Cant beat outwintering!


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    #4187
    jimmy G M
    Registered Users Posts: 1,147 ✭✭✭jimmy G M


    BigSteaks wrote: »
    Jesus super stock. Cant beat outwintering!

    Thx, buy around in around 20 in the autumn every year and out winter here and there on rented land. They don't get much, maybe 1kg nuts/barley a day and since Christmas a goal of hay as well.... old fashioned way of doing it maybe.


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    #4188
    BigSteaks
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    jimmy G M wrote: »
    Thx, buy around in around 20 in the autumn every year and out winter here and there on rented land. They don't get much, maybe 1kg nuts/barley a day and since Christmas a goal of hay as well.... old fashioned way of doing it maybe.

    No silage at all? What age do you buy them at? Look in great condition.


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    #4189
    jimmy G M
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    BigSteaks wrote: »
    No silage at all? What age do you buy them at? Look in great condition.

    These 5 getting hay and out on 7 acres. 15 more on 15 acres are getting bale of silage every 5 days since Christmas. All get a shake of nuts/barley every day since bought in. Kept in loose shed for 1st week til eating an then off.

    I buy in November. Generally Lim & Charolais heifer
    s. Most are April & May born and not overdone. Average purchase price just over 700, average weight 250kg. Sell in October & repeat.

    Keeping an eye out for a shed I could rent locally as more work in feeding these 20 than 100 in a shed. If I could find accommodation I'd prob keep them on till the following July and kill off grass.


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    #4190
    Limestone Cowboy
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    No loss on them today, hopefully I can say the same tomorrow.


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    #4191
    tanko
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    I see the neighbours Herefords broke in again!!!


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    #4192
    sonnybill
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    Limestone Cowboy wrote: »
    No loss on them today, hopefully I can say the same tomorrow.

    You kept a right scatter of heifers, all be kept for breeding ?


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    #4193
    Limestone Cowboy
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    tanko wrote: »
    I see the neighbours Herefords broke in again!!!

    He did, 4 calves out of him. Not delighted about it but they are all alive anyway. Won't complain too much.


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    #4194
    Limestone Cowboy
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    sonnybill wrote: »
    You kept a right scatter of heifers, all be kept for breeding ?

    No only keeping 2 or 3 out of it. I have an awful lot of heifers bulled tge last few years and the cows are fairly young overall. Only got clear a fortnight ago and sold 10 bullocks at home out of it. I'll go with some of the stronger ones now when it clears up a bit and hold 15 of the handy bullocks and heifers till June or July maybe.


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    #4195
    Never wrestle with pigs
    Registered Users Posts: 1,447 ✭✭✭Never wrestle with pigs


    No roof they said, be fine they said ha. Should be banned


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    #4196
    charolais0153
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    Lzf heifer out of lsp cow


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    #4197
    Limestone Cowboy
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    charolais0153 wrote: »
    Lzf heifer out of lsp cow

    You trying to make me eat my words :D She's a grand one!


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    #4198
    patsy_mccabe
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    Never wrestle with pigs wrote: »
    No roof they said, be fine they said ha. Should be banned

    Seriously, how did the cows fair on the outdoor cubicles? Will they just ly on the snow.

    'If I ventured in the slipstream, Between the viaducts of your dream'



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    #4199
    charolais0153
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    Lzf bull . 15 months. He ruined his hair scratching on trees


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    #4200
    Never wrestle with pigs
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    charolais0153 wrote: »
    Lzf bull . 15 months. He ruined his hair scratching on trees

    He a pb? Fair fleshy lad. Iv two sim bulls here. Toying with the idea of changing one for a ch next year. Perhaps a culard, not sure yet. Something that would bring good lumps of weanings.


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    #4201
    Never wrestle with pigs
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    patsy_mccabe wrote: »
    Seriously, how did the cows fair on the outdoor cubicles? Will they just ly on the snow.

    Don't know. It's off the ifj snap chat. They have to use allot of energy trying to stay warm. Roof would be far better don't care what they say.


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