Livestock/General Farming photo thread TAKE #2 ::::RULES IN 1st POST::::

patsy_mccabe

Lady Haywire wrote: »

Might buy a couple & leave them with my others until I see a few

I've seen very good stock by CLOUGHHEAD UMPIRE (UPI) at Premier Lim sales but his locomotion figures are in the bottom 1%. That would put me off big time. I hate to see cattle waddling along. It looks bad on a breeding bull too.

Never wrestle with pigs

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

I've seen very good stock by CLOUGHHEAD UMPIRE (UPI) at Premier Lim sales but his locomotion figures are in the bottom 1%. That would put me off big time. I hate to see cattle waddling along. It looks bad on a breeding bull too.

I must learn how to go a bit more in dept into the figures like that. You wouldn't want to put him on a bad type on locko so.

patsy_mccabe

A lot of the UK Lim bulls fall down badly on individual traits. That's what happens when you pick untested bulls that look picture perfect.

Mac Taylor

Upi heifer with alfy in the background. Aied her with a saler. She is pbr.

Mac Taylor

Jan born son of ardlea Dan pictures don’t do him justice.

Hard Knocks

Lady Haywire wrote: »

But he ain't anything special yet! He's a nice calf but I see lots of nice calves at shows too. Very hard to judge a calf at a day old, never mind a few hours old. Must see if i can get him eating a bit of crunch or nuts, haven't seen him in the creep with the older ones yet.

Milky cow is giving him a great start.
What’s the best nut / crunch to help fill him out as he grows

Mac Taylor

Try again

Lady Haywire

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

A lot of the UK Lim bulls fall down badly on individual traits. That's what happens when you pick untested bulls that look picture perfect.

I'm not great at looking at those sort of traits tbh. I'm a Tinder sort of bull picker. If he looks good, I swipe right :D

Hard Knocks wrote: »

Milky cow is giving him a great start.
What’s the best nut / crunch to help fill him out as he grows

Have a pallet of 17% super calf nuts from P&V already in the shed. So that's what he'll be getting when he does decide to go into the creep feeder.

Hard Knocks

Lady Haywire wrote: »

I'm not great at looking at those sort of traits tbh. I'm a Tinder sort of bull picker. If he looks good, I swipe right :D



Have a pallet of 17% super calf nuts from P&V already in the shed. So that's what he'll be getting when he does decide to go into the creep feeder.

Would some of them pedigree / show feeds be any better (Smyths Greenvale etc)

Lady Haywire

Hard Knocks wrote: »

Would some of them pedigree / show feeds be any better (Smyths Greenvale etc)

Not a huge fan of ration tbh, find it can be very dusty in some bags. At least with the nut we've no crows or dust left in the trough. I'm sure a case could be made that it's proven to be better etc but for the price difference I'm not pushed.

Never wrestle with pigs

Hard Knocks wrote: »

Would some of them pedigree / show feeds be any better (Smyths Greenvale etc)

Wasn't there an old trick the show lads fed young stock to get them looking their best for a show. Feeding them turkey finisher or something like that.

Lady Haywire

Never wrestle with pigs wrote: »

Wasn't there an old trick the show lads fed young stock to get them looking their best for a show. Feeding them turkey finisher or something like that.

Drop of linseed oil works well too. As does a good condition & bow dry :pac:

But now that you mention it, think i have heard of turkey finisher before.....

Hard Knocks

Lady Haywire wrote: »

Drop of linseed oil works well too. As does a good condition & bow dry :pac:

But now that you mention it, think i have heard of turkey finisher before.....

Can you get conditioners for cattle?
With the linseed oil I guess you put it on a cloth & rub in, how much would you use

Lady Haywire

Hard Knocks wrote: »

Can you get conditioners for cattle?
With the linseed oil I guess you put it on a cloth & rub in, how much would you use

No, feed it to them in the food! Same as with horses. There's loads of gimmicky things out for show cattle nowadays but sometimes old stuff works just as well.

patsy_mccabe

Lady Haywire wrote: »

No, feed it to them in the food! Same as with horses. There's loads of gimmicky things out for show cattle nowadays but sometimes old stuff works just as well.

Wher do you get the Linseed Oil? Around here they used to put it on new hurleys.

Lady Haywire

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Wher do you get the Linseed Oil? Around here they used to put it on new hurleys.

Can get 1/5L containers in the agri stores, though it's also used as a base in some cattle vitamin/mineral drenches. I remember reading before that if it's fed to beef cattle too, it increases the omega3 in the meat when they're finally butchered which is pretty cool.
Is the stuff for hurleys not boiled? Think it differs in some way anyway.

patsy_mccabe

Lady Haywire wrote: »

Can get 1/5L containers in the agri stores, though it's also used as a base in some cattle vitamin/mineral drenches. I remember reading before that if it's fed to beef cattle too, it increases the omega3 in the meat when they're finally butchered which is pretty cool.
Is the stuff for hurleys not boiled? Think it differs in some way anyway.

https://www.coopsuperstores.ie/Pet--Equine/Equestrian/Equine-Minerals--Supplements/Linseed-Oil-45lt-0380742

No mention of cattle here. How much do you feed daily?

Lady Haywire

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

https://www.coopsuperstores.ie/Pet--Equine/Equestrian/Equine-Minerals--Supplements/Linseed-Oil-45lt-0380742

No mention of cattle here. How much do you feed daily?

I used to just put a dollop in 30/50ml or so. It can be bitter so too much & they wouldn't eat the feed. Think it says it on the back of the container too. It's also an appetite promoter, apparently! If you look up turbo agri products, it's one of the main ingredients in their drenches, in comparison to Growvite who use molasses I think.

It's something I've always done with both horses & show calves so was just reading up a bit on it there now, the bit on conception rates of 87.5% to 50% is interesting, though you'd wonder if it was just lack of flesh on the cows in the first pace.

https://www.ag.ndsu.edu/publications/livestock/using-flax-in-beef-and-dairy-cattle-diets

longgonesilver

The Turkey finisher used to work because it had highish levels of meat and bone meal.
There are legal implications if feeding ration to species it was not supplied for.

patsy_mccabe

Go to 9:40 on this. Had to laugh at the guy with the pour-on.

Bullocks

Feckin brilliant video Patsy. It was a bit like our place when I was a young lad except we used to shout more and had no pour on, only only the bottle to dose them ðŸ˜

MF290

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Go to 9:40 on this. Had to laugh at the guy with the pour-on.

What on earth did I just watch

Limestone Cowboy

Nearly there now.

patsy_mccabe

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

Nearly there now.

Nice job. What make of gate is that, how much?
Like the simplicity of it. Very similar to an old one I have here.

Limestone Cowboy

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Nice job. What make of gate is that, how much?
Like the simplicity of it. Very similar to an old one I have here.

I have it with a few years just hadn't put it up. Think it was got in Kerry co-op. It's new but I bought it second hand so can't say for sure.

CHOPS01

Bullocks wrote: »

Feckin brilliant video Patsy. It was a bit like our place when I was a young lad except we used to shout more and had no pour on, only only the bottle to dose them ðŸ˜

So much like the good old days. But the roaring was the best part. Can hear my father in my head " Oh fcuk it we're ruined forget it we're ruined "
I'd say some of the lads there ended up with more pour on in their system than the cattle.

CHOPS01

Nice to come back from holidays and see stock happy and content.

CHOPS01

Meant to attach pic earlier

john mayo 10

Ch2000 bull calf born in January. Quiet as a lamb.

patsy_mccabe

john mayo 10 wrote: »

Ch2000 bull calf born in January. Quiet as a lamb.

C'est un animal magnifique.