Livestock/General Farming photo thread TAKE #2 ::::RULES IN 1st POST::::

Farrell

.Kovu. wrote: »

I know nothing about Salers:eek:

Our best breeders would have a mongrel breeding of Simmental/Br FR and about 1/2 or 3/4 Lim with that.

Likewise, My father bought a Simmental bull back in the early 90's who bred some good stock, since that he'd Charolais.
He's cows 3 generation CH which are breeding good stock, which all stems from that Simmental bull.
A good foundation means allot

Robson99

Always found a good well bred limousine cow crossed with a blue or charloais bull gave a great animal to fatten

Reggie.

.Kovu. wrote: »

I know nothing about Salers:eek:

Our best breeders would have a mongrel breeding of Simmental/Br FR and about 1/2 or 3/4 Lim with that.

Stay away from salers. Bad experiences with them cows

Farrell

Reggie. wrote: »

Stay away from salers. Bad experiences with them cows

Ah now Reggie, thought you were a hardened Army man that was afraid of nothing!
The 1 we have is tame, but up til 3yo (5 now) would be liable for a kick

Reggie.

Farrell wrote: »

Ah now Reggie, thought you were a hardened Army man that was afraid of nothing!
The 1 we have is tame, but up til 3yo (5 now) would be liable for a kick

We did B&B for a few years and one calved in the slats one time out of the blue. Couldn't get near pen for 3 days with her. Finally got the calf out once and she nearly took the barrier off the pillars so we had to put the calf back in to the pen

Rang the owner to collect her. When he arrived I was telling him about the "experience" we had with her and he said that was the norm for salers. Apparently I was lucky she didn't bite me I was told as they have a habit of doing that too. She wasn't even a springer. When she was brought back to her home farm she abandoned the calf for 2 days

Never had one in the place since

Kovu

I've been told they have an aggressive nature alright but biting?! That would go against any natural instinct a cow has Reggie.
Whatever about kicking you or charging at you.....any animal who with only a single row of teeth in the front of their mouths are very unlikely to bite in defense.

cristeoir

.Kovu. wrote: »

I've been told they have an aggressive nature alright but biting?! That would go against any natural instinct a cow has Reggie.
Whatever about kicking you or charging at you.....any animal who with only a single row of teeth in the front of their mouths are very unlikely to bite in defense.

So what about a dog then Kovu;)

Kovu

cristeoir wrote: »

So what about a dog then Kovu;)

Dogs have top teeth.....

cristeoir

Sorry I picked you up wrong:o but won't sows bite and horses aswell or so I'm told.Anyway I'd put nothing past them loopers of salers.

Kovu

cristeoir wrote: »

Sorry I picked you up wrong:o but won't sows bite and horses aswell or so I'm told.

I have no idea of a pigs dental anatomy I'm afraid but a horse definitely has front incisors to nip as I've been on the receiving end often enough!:pac:

Reggie.

.Kovu. wrote: »

I have no idea of a pigs dental anatomy I'm afraid but a horse definitely has front incisors to nip as I've been on the receiving end often enough!:pac:

The owner claims it's a common occurrence for a Saler to bite like a horse. I'm only going from word of mouth but I wouldn't be surprised with what I witnessed

Kovu

Reggie. wrote: »

The owner claims it's a common occurrence for a Saler to bite like a horse. I'm only going from word of mouth but I wouldn't be surprised with what I witnessed

Heh heh heh.

Bodacious

.Kovu. wrote: »

Ooooh, nice. She came out with lovely hair on. I'd also be the lunatic putting blue on her to breed the blonde legs out.


Because nobody loves hardship like a Kovu:pac:

Ive a white sister ( A charolais) to her calving in spring and will see how she is for milk as unsure about how much milk a KCE heifer would have.. wont lose on her anyway as saleable anytime.

FarmerDougal

Reggie. wrote: »

Stay away from salers. Bad experiences with them cows

Walked through field of saler x cows all quiet. Nice orange calves of ch bull too. Great wide hips and lots of milk.

Saying that I've seen stone mad ones two

Reggie.

FarmerDougal wrote: »

Walked through field of saler x cows all quiet. Nice orange calves of ch bull too. Great wide hips and lots of milk.

Saying that I've seen stone mad ones two

Its like everything I suppose

Kovu

Locked GC, try again :pac:

Genghis Cant

.Kovu. wrote: »

Locked GC, try again :pac:

I'd a few small bottles but hardly locked:P

Bodacious

Bodacious wrote: »

Ive a white sister ( A charolais) to her calving in spring and will see how she is for milk as unsure about how much milk a KCE heifer would have.. wont lose on her anyway as saleable anytime.

My 2 blondes!

RobinBanks

Bodacious wrote: »

My 2 blondes!

Lovely heifers Bod

Bodacious

RobinBanks wrote: »

Lovely heifers Bod

Cheers robin,

Would hope to be crossing back to the Charolais down the road, they leggy enough anyway and hope they bring enough milk from their dams side as not sure what the BA breed brings to the table milk wise !

Genghis Cant

16 Mth old Ba heifer out of a BaX cow.


KFY Simm heifer out of a PB Ch cow calving next spring to Lim YSM.



Ch X Ba weanling heifer.


2 Calves a week old or so. Red by Dubai THZ, black by Equalizer FZM.

jd06

Genghis Cant wrote: »

16 Mth old Ba heifer out of a BaX cow.


KFY Simm heifer out of a PB Ch cow calving next spring to Lim YSM.



Ch X Ba weanling heifer.


2 Calves a week old or so. Red by Dubai THZ, black by Equalizer FZM.

are they both eurogene bulls? lovely stock

Genghis Cant

jd06 wrote: »

are they both eurogene bulls? lovely stock

We use Eurogene. The bull we use most is probably ABI. He breeds super stuff for us. Equalizer is good too, but not easy calved. We weren't happy that they had a very easy calving Lim for very beefy heifers so bought straws of Dubai THZ for that job. They have since got Suc au may YSM, so we've tried him.

Farrell

Genghis Cant wrote: »

We use Eurogene. The bull we use most is probably ABI. He breeds super stuff for us. Equalizer is good too, but not easy calved. We weren't happy that they had a very easy calving Lim for very beefy heifers so bought straws of Dubai THZ for that job. They have since got Suc au may YSM, so we've tried him.

FZM does bring good stock, had you much trouble with that calf?
Use Eurogene here too, ODZ seams easy calved & turns out good enough (FIL has 1 off a first calving AAX).
Was a fan of UBY, easy calved & nice stock to sell as weanlings.
Do you use any of the CH or BB?

Genghis Cant

Farrell wrote: »

FZM does bring good stock, had you much trouble with that calf?
Use Eurogene here too, ODZ seams easy calved & turns out good enough (FIL has 1 off a first calving AAX).
Was a fan of UBY, easy calved & nice stock to sell as weanlings.
Do you use any of the CH or BB?

I'd no trouble at all. I wasn't there, but I'm told it was a big pull on the jack. He's a bear of a calf, woeful thick. She's a powerful tank of a cow though.

We rarely use BB. We run a Ch bull so rarely use any AI Ch except the odd one on the PB Charolais cows.

Bodacious

jd06 wrote: »

are they both eurogene bulls? lovely stock

Gengis,


great stock what sire/ breeding in the heifer weanling she looks to have great weight to her also

Genghis Cant

Bodacious wrote: »

Gengis,


great stock what sire/ breeding in the heifer weanling she looks to have great weight to her also

The white weanling heifer? She's still on the cow, a very stylish calf she is too. Off our old Ch bull who was by Alcazar off a Sylvain cow. The dam of that calf is by the Blonde bull Landais X a Ch cow.
So the calf is 1/4 Ba 3/4 Ch.
The heifer in the first pic is out of a Ba cow.
She'd be 3/4 Ba 1/4 Lim. Her grand dam was a great long Lim cow by Jaguar, who was out of a Ch cow a long time ago.
Funnily enough I can remember most of them like you'd know a neighbouring family:)

onyerbikepat

Worth a look for suckler farmers....

kowtow

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There is a reason why all the heifers in this family are called "Jackie"

131spanner

Other years you'd be gone to the axles in that field on October 1st. Strong second crop lifted, a great sign of the year it was