Religious Fanaticism in Ireland

Annasopra

Honestly op I don't see any imminent danger of a fanatic coup in Ireland.

FTA69

You remind me of a fella I knew in my local back home in Ireland. He would set himself up as a man educated and knowledgeable about world affairs and would pontificate to anyone who'd listen about everything from sports to banking to history to politics. In reality he knew very little and understood less; he used to parrot a few lines he heard on snippets of shows and programs and cobble them together into this narrative that made no sense to anyone but him. The gas thing was he used to spout this nonsense with a totally straight face. A bit like what you're doing now.

Against my better judgement, I'm going to rephrase my point in easy-to-understand points. Refute them if you can, it'd read better than a bizarre and directionless rant.

1) "Hamas/PLO/Fatah etc" are not the same organisation. Palestinian resistance groups differ hugely; you have secular people concerned with national liberation (the PLO) as well as anti-religious Marxists (the PFLP). You also have many Palestinian Christians. Likewise, not every Palestinian group is concerned with armed struggle. Like any other society you have a raft of women's groups, environmental groups, trade unions, educational groups, residents' group etc etc. It's a complex place. I've been there, and met plenty of people who didn't fit your description at all.

2) Irish Republicanism and the PLO had an affinity because they were both concerned with left-wing, secular, national liberation. It was a broad trend in the 60s and 70s; it had nothing to do with supporting an Islamic agenda from afar. Even today, Republicans of any shade don't have links with Hamas etc. Your assertion the CIRA do is wrong.

catallus

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

Honestly op I don't see any imminent danger of a fanatic coup in Ireland.

We must be alert and vigilant against our invisible enemies! They're trying to steal our precious bodily fluids, you know.

BuilderPlumber

Shakespeare's Sister wrote: »

Yeh, it's not Islamic extremism like in Iran or Nigeria, it's not Christian fundamentalism like in Uganda... it's fanatical atheists that's "the biggest problem".
Are you actually having a laugh?

It's so fashionable to moan about atheists now that no thought goes into it.

And why would you wish you're not atheist so as not to be associated with the fanatical ones (whom I agree are a pain in the arse but they're not worse than religious extremists, they're not even "as bad as" them, as is the thing to say).
Who cares whether people would associate you with them? Anyone who does is hardly worth caring about.
I may not believe in a deity but I don't force my view on people or belittle religious people, that's all that matters. If some atheist-obsessed dope decides I'm arrogant and sneering on the basis of me being atheist alone, that's their problem.

Fanatical anything is not good and leads to evil. We have seen Islamic extremism predominate in 1979 Iran (enforced by a gang of illiterate peasants but worse endorsed by learned priests who should have known better but proved weak: Khomeini was the weakest leader Iran ever had and at a time when they needed a stronger leader. Pahlavi in the end was not much better: he just ran away, leaving Iran to the Revolutionary Guards fanatics and their Mafia/organised crime friends). Hopefully, today's Iran under a moderate president can roll back the tide of weakness and capitulation to fanatics we have seen in Iran until now. We see it in Nigeria where the attitude seems to be stay up north and we won't mind. But granting fascist law to the northern states proved as bad as appeasing Hitler: fascists want more and more and don't stop when appeased. We seen it in Iraq and Syria with the worse of all ISIS.

But while Islam gets a slating a lot because of these misrepresenters of it we tend to forget Uganda and other parts of central Africa. Uganda's government has very intolerant laws in some regards. Worse, the LRA lead by Joseph Kony are a Christian terrorist group as bad as ISIS and al Qaeda and have done awful fascist atrocities to people in Uganda, Sudan, Congo and CAR.

For fanatic atheists, we need to look at Kimland. North Korea is the perfect example of a land that replaced god with a human god. It has gone beyond atheist into more of a 'one man/family being superior to everyone else on earth' kind of thing. Hitler, Stalin, etc. followed a similar path. Compare Taliban and Khmer Rouge and LRA and you see the Islamic, atheist and Christian fanatics are all very much cut from the same cloth. Evil is too mild a word for all these fascist tossers.

BuilderPlumber

FTA69 wrote: »

You remind me of a fella I knew in my local back home in Ireland. He would set himself up as a man educated and knowledgeable about world affairs and would pontificate to anyone who'd listen about everything from sports to banking to history to politics. In reality he knew very little and understood less; he used to parrot a few lines he heard on snippets of shows and programs and cobble them together into this narrative that made no sense to anyone but him. The gas thing was he used to spout this nonsense with a totally straight face. A bit like what you're doing now.

Against my better judgement, I'm going to rephrase my point in easy-to-understand points. Refute them if you can, it'd read better than a bizarre and directionless rant.

1) "Hamas/PLO/Fatah etc" are not the same organisation. Palestinian resistance groups differ hugely; you have secular people concerned with national liberation (the PLO) as well as anti-religious Marxists (the PFLP). You also have many Palestinian Christians. Likewise, not every Palestinian group is concerned with armed struggle. Like any other society you have a raft of women's groups, environmental groups, trade unions, educational groups, residents' group etc etc. It's a complex place. I've been there, and met plenty of people who didn't fit your description at all.

2) Irish Republicanism and the PLO had an affinity because they were both concerned with left-wing, secular, national liberation. It was a broad trend in the 60s and 70s; it had nothing to do with supporting an Islamic agenda from afar. Even today, Republicans of any shade don't have links with Hamas etc. Your assertion the CIRA do is wrong.

Again, you have totally missed my point here. Do I honestly believe that Guinness and Irish whiskey guzzling IRA men consciously support 'Islamic' fascists with strange views on booze and women? No I don't. They do support this socialist Palestinian cause but the reality like it or not is that so-called 'Islamists' have taken hold in Palestine and all the other places. So, support for Palestine helps 'Islamists' like it or not even if it is not intended to.

Of course, there are many other Palestinian groups. But the 'Islamists' have the loudest voice and they hijack everything. Look at what 'Islamist' peasants did to Afghanistan, parts of Pakistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya, etc. They took advantage of a popular revolution and have been successful at hijacking and divide and conquering revolutions since 1979s failed unfinished revolution in Iran that replaced a monarchy with a military junta fronted by a priest who is officially the monarch puppet as well and not with what the Iranian people wanted.

I feel too that Uncle Sam initially at least supported so-called 'Islamic Revolutions' in the Middle East and N. Africa. Their enemy then was communism and Arab nationalism, Palestinian groups then, the Tudeh in Iran, etc. were all socialist and thus poss. USSR aligned. One thing is for sure: 'Islamic' fascists did not get so powerful without powerful friends.

endacl

Nodin wrote: »

What religious songs did they sing in the pub?

Anything by Elvis, peace be upon him.

http://mama-butterfly.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/sacred-heart-elvis1.jpg

Nodin

BuilderPlumber wrote: »

Fanatical anything is not good and leads to evil. We have seen Islamic extremism predominate in 1979 Iran (enforced by a gang of illiterate peasants but worse endorsed by learned priests who should have known better but proved weak: Khomeini was the weakest leader Iran ever had and at a time when they needed a stronger leader..

Utter, utter crap.

BuilderPlumber wrote: »

Again, you have totally missed my point here. Do I honestly believe that Guinness and Irish whiskey guzzling IRA men consciously support 'Islamic' fascists with strange views on booze and women?No I don't..

You were saying they did in the OP. Please make up your mind.

BuilderPlumber wrote: »

They do support this socialist Palestinian cause but the reality like it or not
is that so-called 'Islamists' have taken hold in Palestine and all the other
places. So, support for Palestine helps 'Islamists' like it or not even if it is
not intended to.

More nonsense.

BuilderPlumber

Nodin wrote: »

Utter, utter crap.



You were saying they did in the OP. Please make up your mind.



More nonsense.

Khomeini = 80+ year old priest with a heart condition and a depression condition who arrived in Iran a full week at least after Iran's answer to the Khmer Rouge had driven the Shah home. Khomeini dithered on the embassy hostage thing, initially telling the Khmer Rouge, er, Revolutionary peasants to leave and then he supported them afraid he was going to be clipped. Weak, pathetic man and Pahlavi was no better. Fled. No crap, but facts.

IRA and Palestinians: I never said that IRA and republicans supported the REALITY of fascist 'Islam'. I said they support the cause and don't think of what they are supporting or close their minds to the whole reality of fascist 'Islam'. Apart from those in the pioneer movement who are not into the GAA, no Irish person would live for a day under fascist 'Islamic' dictators.

Nodin

BuilderPlumber wrote: »

Khomeini = 80+ year old priest with a heart condition and a depression condition who arrived in Iran a full week at least after Iran's answer to the Khmer Rouge had driven the Shah home. Khomeini dithered on the embassy hostage thing, initially telling the Khmer Rouge, er, Revolutionary peasants to leave and then he supported them afraid he was going to be clipped. Weak, pathetic man and Pahlavi was no better. Fled. No crap, but facts..

In all honesty, you've no notion at all. I don't even know where to begin.

BuilderPlumber wrote: »

IRA and Palestinians: I never said that IRA and republicans supported the REALITY of fascist 'Islam'. I said they support the cause and don't think of what they are supporting or close their minds to the whole reality of fascist 'Islam'. Apart from those in the pioneer movement who are not into the GAA, no Irish person would live for a day under fascist 'Islamic' dictators.

Your notion of the Palestinian movement seems equally murky.

FTA69

BuilderPlumber wrote: »

Khomeini = 80+ year old priest with a heart condition and a depression condition who arrived in Iran a full week at least after Iran's answer to the Khmer Rouge had driven the Shah home. Khomeini dithered on the embassy hostage thing, initially telling the Khmer Rouge, er, Revolutionary peasants to leave and then he supported them afraid he was going to be clipped. Weak, pathetic man and Pahlavi was no better. Fled. No crap, but facts.

IRA and Palestinians: I never said that IRA and republicans supported the REALITY of fascist 'Islam'. I said they support the cause and don't think of what they are supporting or close their minds to the whole reality of fascist 'Islam'. Apart from those in the pioneer movement who are not into the GAA, no Irish person would live for a day under fascist 'Islamic' dictators.

Jesus Christ how many times do you have to be told that the IRA were linked with the PLO. The PLO aren't Islamically orientated and are secular left wing. Hamas and the PLO aren't the same bloody thing.

diomed

I used google maps to look for Glenfarne.
Is it the place with a combined guesthouse /restaurant /supermarket /post office, and believe it or not a "ballroom of romance" and even more unbelievable, an outdoor living and decking business?

Sociopath2

Poor OP, you thought your made up story would get you lots of thanks and loud snorts of laughter at the stupid god botherers and country people. That may have fallen flat on its face but at least no one can accuse you of giving up and admitting defeat, even when you really, really should.

Poor OP.

BuilderPlumber

Nodin wrote: »

In all honesty, you've no notion at all. I don't even know where to begin.



Your notion of the Palestinian movement seems equally murky.

I've been to Iran by the way twice so I know it better than most.

Khomeini was a stupid symbol. What was he? Would an 80 year old idiot priest scare anyone? Nah. Iran is a regime founded by guntoting peasants marginally better than what lead to the Taliban in Afghanistan. Take out the Revolutionary Guards in Iran, you take out the regime. The priests are puppets and anyone who knows about Iran knows that the revolutionary guards and tapping into the deliberately kept poor and uneducated masses outside of Tehran and other major cities in the Western part of Iran is what has kept this regime afloat. Along with Saddam Hussein's invasion which gave the RGs a legitimacy they would not have received otherwise.

Khomeini was put forward to legitimise the religious side of the regime. The likes of Bazargan were thrown in to fool moderate Iranians and Mossadeq supporters. The West has publically scorned this regime and this regime is outspoken about the West. But both use each other, do secret deals and feed off each other.

I have never been to Palestine or Israel either do I want to. But I know what it is. A mess and a mess for similar reasons: 'Islamic' fascism, aggression from Israel, neglect by other powers, infighting between factions.

Strongbow10

Tail Docker wrote: »

ISIS are in Cavan? I knew they were mad into the ISas, but this is a new development. Happily, they will be too mean to share their views with anyone else.

I knew a Father Clint Power maybe they are having a pop at him

I'd say he was the priest not to be trusted

BuilderPlumber

Sociopath2 wrote: »

Poor OP, you thought your made up story would get you lots of thanks and loud snorts of laughter at the stupid god botherers and country people. That may have fallen flat on its face but at least no one can accuse you of giving up and admitting defeat, even when you really, really should.

Poor OP.

No, I did not want or think that. Instead, I have discovered there are many here who defend fascism, laugh off sectarianism and turn a blind eye to over the top religiousity both here and elsewhere.

I have proven that hatred and intolerance of differing ideas is rife in Ireland (and whatever other countries use this site) and that many people are insulting and have bullying tendencies. My point has been made that what I saw last weekend is much more common and thus I can say this thread has been very successful in showing how dictatorial some people in this country are. God help differing of opinions under some people here!!

I wish I had made up the original story. I wish I had made up the intolerance and ignorance shown by some on this thread. I'd LOVE to say all this was made up, but it is clearly not. The whole idea here was to see how many would come out and show elements of fascism. A lot of people did. And the very fascist comments from 3 or 4 people here worry me a lot.

Henlars67

BuilderPlumber wrote: »

Now, we hear all about ISIS/ISIL, Taliban, al Shabaab, Boko Haram and al Qaeda and their wellknown intolerant brand of religion. All crazy fanatics from faraway places one can barely find on a map? All completely alien to Ireland? Right? Wrong!

I had the misfortune to be in the border village of Glenfarne on Sunday and some of Monday. Went out of the place into the country to visit a group of people I thought were friends and found I had almost gone to Afghanistan and not to Cavan or wherever this Glenfarne is (it is about 3 miles or so from the Northern Ireland border near Fermanagh: I think it is in Cavan, maybe Donegal). Sitting down, the family said the Rosary and then started talking about the parish priest being 'not one to trust' and 'too liberal'. I didn't take much notice. Then, later that evening, it was all IRA songs being sung along with some religious songs in the pub. A whole hatred of protestants banter seemed to be implied and one felt they were in dissident IRA land through and through. Very different to the Cavan town, Mohill, Killeshandra or Dromod just down a bit. There was talk about the showbands and how the 'f'ing prods all killed them' and the 'only good unionist was a dead one .. revenge for Miami'. Then, the most scary: one of my 'friends' said 'ISIS were the best thing to emerge in years and they will have those Brits running scared out of Iraq and out of London too'. This was not said in the pub but in a house and no one seemed to disagree other than me. They also said that 'Islam is the Arab's religion and they are entitled to kill those who disobey' and that 'In Ireland, we are Catholic and protestants are not welcome in any of the 32 counties of Ireland'. They accused a local priest who they did not name other than by initials of 'spying on people and that he was only interested in going after women and not being a priest'. They said he 'was a unionist spy and a traitor planted to corrupt the church'. All was said in a serious, soft northern style accent akin to the way Neven Maguire, the chef, talks (he is from next door in Blacklion which is nicer btw!).

This is precisely where ISIS can recruit others. The hatred and racism was here and these people are people I know who are educated and who I thought were more liberal. In their work lives, they hide their religious mania and their paranoid hatreds.

I got out of this place as soon as I could I do not want to ever go there again. I apologise to the majority of decent people who live there but Glenfarne is one town I will never visit again. These views are very very worrying and this deceptive village on the border harbours a fanaticism that dovetails with what ISIS, etc. stand for.

What was the name of the pub?

Shakespeare's Sister

I don't know that hatred and intolerance of differing ideas is "rife" in Ireland.

The incident/people seem very isolated.

SpaceTime

Are you 100% sure you weren't here?

In the local shop of local people on League of Gentleman ?

Tombs

BuilderPlumber wrote: »

I've been to Iran by the way twice so I know it better than most.

I've been to Glenfarne more than twice.

FTA69

Henlars67 wrote: »

What was the name of the pub?

The Spoofers Arms

J Mysterio

People don't agree with OP's outrageously ignorant statements - labelled as bullys and fascists (agents of Islam/ PLO fighters?).

Sociopath2

BuilderPlumber wrote: »

No, I did not want or think that. Instead, I have discovered there are many here who defend fascism, laugh off sectarianism and turn a blind eye to over the top religiousity both here and elsewhere.

I have proven that hatred and intolerance of differing ideas is rife in Ireland (and whatever other countries use this site) and that many people are insulting and have bullying tendencies. My point has been made that what I saw last weekend is much more common and thus I can say this thread has been very successful in showing how dictatorial some people in this country are. God help differing of opinions under some people here!!

I wish I had made up the original story. I wish I had made up the intolerance and ignorance shown by some on this thread. I'd LOVE to say all this was made up, but it is clearly not. The whole idea here was to see how many would come out and show elements of fascism. A lot of people did. And the very fascist comments from 3 or 4 people here worry me a lot.

Get a piece of cardboard and cut it into an L shape. Hold your L-shaped piece of cardboard by the shorter end.

You now have a pretend gun. You can use it to fight off the hordes of pretend IRA/PLO/GAA fanatics. Don't forget to shout POW! POW! or they won't know they're dead.

catallus

I thought "Pew! Pew!" was the shooting sound?!

Sociopath2

catallus wrote: »

I thought "Pew! Pew!" was the shooting sound?!

When I'm being a condescending fcuker I don't worry about small details like that.

Smiles35

Would you support having them arrested under our incitement to hatred legislation op?

BuilderPlumber

Sociopath2 wrote: »

Get a piece of cardboard and cut it into an L shape. Hold your L-shaped piece of cardboard by the shorter end.

You now have a pretend gun. You can use it to fight off the hordes of pretend IRA/PLO/GAA fanatics. Don't forget to shout POW! POW! or they won't know they're dead.

This is getting real silly and childish now. People like you are beyond help and it is impossible to have a serious debate with people who either resort to bullying and mockery and plain silliness if that does not work. Go back to the creche and play your cops and robbers.

BuilderPlumber

J Mysterio wrote: »

People don't agree with OP's outrageously ignorant statements - labelled as bullys and fascists (agents of Islam/ PLO fighters?).

No, plenty people do agree with my valid statements. There is MORE to the world that the 4-5 fascists who deride my and similar posts here and on similar thread!!! I am NOT the one who is ignorant here as some well know who instead of arguing a different opinion politely resort to statements like 'utter rubbish' and 'complete nonsense'. That's the FASCIST way of doing business and if FASCISTS disagree with me, I am proud of this! If this thread gets closet fascists out to defend fascism, it is doing what I intended it to do. People who have no manners like those who say such things as the above rather than debating politely do need to reconsider their reactions to different opinions. I never once derided anyone else's posts as 'rubbish' or 'nonsense' or other such fascist reactions. A bit of manner would not go astray here. Being impolite is the first step on a road of hate and hatred starts off in small ways before all the big stuff and killing remember.

J Mysterio

OP avoids discussing prior posters considered detailing of political groupings present in Palestine. This detailing having been provided twice.

OP bullheadedly and dishonestly maintains all political groupings in Palestine are infiltrated by 'islamist terrorists'.

OP insists those who disagree are fascists or fascist sympathisers, potentially members of an IRA/ Islamist collective.

The_Captain

Irish people, for all the claims of modernity and open-mindedness, do not react well to having Catholicism criticised.

catallus

Why would you think Catholicism is not modern or open-minded? Maybe familiarising yourself with the faith (and I mean taking an active interest in the cultural history of Ireland and actual Irish society as it exists (and not in the minds of knee-jerk reactionists)) would help you to become more modern and open-minded?

Sure, there are valid criticisms, but the same can be said for any philosophy.

The_Captain

It's the knee-jerk reactionists that are the problem, we've moved on as a society and many people unfortunately still want to equate 'Irishness' with mass every Sunday

Reindeer

I am from Texas. I'm used to religious folks actually being religious. When I came to Ireland, and folks began telling me they were catholic, I quickly came to the assumption that it was an ethnicity - and not really a religious thing. Because no catholic, nor protestant, I have ever met on this island comes anywhere near to close what I have witnessed come from folks prescribed to those religions in the States.

Nodin

catallus wrote: »

Why would you think Catholicism is not modern or open-minded? Maybe familiarising yourself with the faith (and I mean taking an active interest in the cultural history of Ireland and actual Irish society as it exists (and not in the minds of knee-jerk reactionists)) would help you to become more modern and open-minded?

Sure, there are valid criticisms, but the same can be said for any philosophy.

You ever heard a crowd singing a load of hymns in the pub?

BuilderPlumber

J Mysterio wrote: »

OP avoids discussing prior posters considered detailing of political groupings present in Palestine. This detailing having been provided twice.

OP bullheadedly and dishonestly maintains all political groupings in Palestine are infiltrated by 'islamist terrorists'.

OP insists those who disagree are fascists or fascist sympathisers, potentially members of an IRA/ Islamist collective.

Wrong. I never said ALL Palestinian groups are infiltrated by 'Islamist' terrorists. I said the IT's are the loudest and hijack the causes. One word .. Gaza .. gives us evidence of that. There are Palestinian movements not infiltrated my 'Islamists' but that does not stop the 'Islamists' trying to either infiltrate them or get rid of them. 'Islamists' don't share with others and like to control or destroy others.

I never said that all those who disagree are fascists/fascist sympathisers. Everyone is entitled to disagree. It is HOW people disagree that informs one of the type of person they are. A person who argues their point politely and gives informed reason for their view is 100% acceptable. A person who gets personal and makes statements like 'more rubbish' or 'absolute nonsense' are not nice people, are nasty and hurtful and display a complete lack of tolerance for anyone else and ultimately show they are ignorant, uncouth, totally unrefined and have no manners whatsoever.

Nodin

BuilderPlumber wrote: »

Wrong. I never said ALL Palestinian groups are infiltrated by 'Islamist' terrorists. I said the IT's are the loudest and hijack the causes. One word .. Gaza .. gives us evidence of that. There are Palestinian movements not infiltrated my 'Islamists' but that does not stop the 'Islamists' trying to either infiltrate them or get rid of them. 'Islamists' don't share with others and like to control or destroy others.

I never said that all those who disagree are fascists/fascist sympathisers. Everyone is entitled to disagree. It is HOW people disagree that informs one of the type of person they are. A person who argues their point politely and gives informed reason for their view is 100% acceptable. A person who gets personal and makes statements like 'more rubbish' or 'absolute nonsense' are not nice people, are nasty and hurtful and display a complete lack of tolerance for anyone else and ultimately show they are ignorant, uncouth, totally unrefined and have no manners whatsoever.

What was the name of the pub?

J Mysterio

The_Captain wrote: »

Irish people, for all the claims of modernity and open-mindedness, do not react well to having Catholicism criticised.

Does that stand up to scrutiny given that Enda Kenny 'slammed the Vatican' and recalled our ambassador before being widely acclaimed for doing so?

J Mysterio

BuilderPlumber wrote: »

Wrong. I never said ALL Palestinian groups are infiltrated by 'Islamist' terrorists.

BuilderPlumber wrote: »

...I said the IT's are the loudest and hijack the causes.

Seriously? :pac:

maguiremucker

This story is absolute drivel,
I am from a culchie little townland which is actually in Northern Ireland, it has a strong republican history and you never hear people slandering protestants, yes slandering loyalists but not the protestant religion.
Foro goodness sake, there is a monument for a Protestant republican from the 1700's down the road.

This wee fairytale is hilarious.

maguiremucker

This story is absolute drivel,
I am from a culchie little townland which is actually in Northern Ireland, it has a strong republican history and you never hear people slandering protestants, yes slandering loyalists but not the protestant religion.
For goodness sake, there is a monument for a Protestant republican from the 1700's down the road.

This wee fairytale is hilarious.

Ditch

No one I know has ever brought up the subject(s) of Isis / Islam.

If anyone ever started singing hymns in my local ....? I dread to think!

I did once bring up the subject of my extreme distaste for fundamentalist islamists and some of their more unsavoury ways, to a mate of mine;

Bad move! Within minutes, he was foaming at the mouth about how they only f**k little, white girls because they were themselves f**ked as children ..... :eek:

We'll leave that there. Most of you can figure it out for yeselves. Guy's a dyed in the wool, case hardened, 110% rabid Apologist for the likes of Isis.

He also supplies me with my Dogs meat. I can't fall out with this guy. My Dogs would starve. I simply realised I should never again broach any such subject with him.

Oh; And he's a Protestant .....

I have another mate, up in the north. Brit Protestant. It's always a laugh when I tell, in my local, how I warned him;

" When ye coming down this way; If ye motor should break down in Ballinamore? FFS, lock the doors. Sit tight and don't open ye mouth to Anyone! " We all laugh.

Then someone always finished the craic off for us by throwing in the punch line: " We'll send a rescue party! " :pac: Cue, we all cry with laughter.

That is Leitrim, OP.

Sociopath2

BuilderPlumber wrote: »

This is getting real silly and childish now. People like you are beyond help and it is impossible to have a serious debate with people who either resort to bullying and mockery and plain silliness if that does not work. Go back to the creche and play your cops and robbers.

The only way your story could be less credible is if it was scrawled in crayon on the back of a Kellogg's box.

Colinf1212

Jesus religious fanatics? I've never met a single devout Catholic in my life and I'm from the most Catholic parts of Northern Ireland. Even my priest I had when growing up seemed to not take the **** seriously.

Shakespeare's Sister

The_Captain wrote: »

Irish people, for all the claims of modernity and open-mindedness, do not react well to having Catholicism criticised.

What nationality are you?

Anyhoo, Irish people (well apart from the revisionist weirdos) are critical of bigotry towards the nationalist community in Northern Ireland, who happened to be predominantly catholic. It's not quite the same as being defensive of the Roman catholic church.

Shakespeare's Sister

BuilderPlumber wrote: »

No, plenty people do agree with my valid statements. There is MORE to the world that the 4-5 fascists who deride my and similar posts here and on similar thread!!! I am NOT the one who is ignorant here as some well know who instead of arguing a different opinion politely resort to statements like 'utter rubbish' and 'complete nonsense'. That's the FASCIST way of doing business and if FASCISTS disagree with me, I am proud of this! If this thread gets closet fascists out to defend fascism, it is doing what I intended it to do. People who have no manners like those who say such things as the above rather than debating politely do need to reconsider their reactions to different opinions. I never once derided anyone else's posts as 'rubbish' or 'nonsense' or other such fascist reactions. A bit of manner would not go astray here. Being impolite is the first step on a road of hate and hatred starts off in small ways before all the big stuff and killing remember.

Wtf? You saw a small group of sectarian catholic nut-jobs who are apologists for islamic extremism (probably because loyalists support Israel) and now you're talking about fascism and communist totalitarian-supporting and bullying? It was the lunatic fringe - what powers do you think those fruitloops in a little border village have? None.

BuilderPlumber

Shakespeare's Sister wrote: »

Wtf? You saw a small group of sectarian catholic nut-jobs who are apologists for islamic extremism (probably because loyalists support Israel) and now you're talking about fascism and communist totalitarian-supporting and bullying? It was the lunatic fringe - what powers do you think those fruitloops in a little border village have? None.

Yes, I saw a small group of sectarian Catholics. And yes, this can in no way represent all of Glenfarne let alone all of Ireland. I saw other people in Glenfarne going about normal business and talking about normal things like the hurling.

What is more scary is the amount of people on here who resort to ignorant, mannerless putdowns. Without naming them, they know who they are and they should apologise for their mannerless ignorant replies. People should be able to disagree and debate with each other without insulting each other. But the trolls who dominate the internet are just that one step away from turning their online intolerance into offline intolerance.

BuilderPlumber

Sociopath2 wrote: »

The only way your story could be less credible is if it was scrawled in crayon on the back of a Kellogg's box.

This childish remark does not even deserve a reply. Go back to the creche with your crayons.

BuilderPlumber

maguiremucker wrote: »

This story is absolute drivel,
I am from a culchie little townland which is actually in Northern Ireland, it has a strong republican history and you never hear people slandering protestants, yes slandering loyalists but not the protestant religion.
Foro goodness sake, there is a monument for a Protestant republican from the 1700's down the road.

This wee fairytale is hilarious.

No, 90% of the replies here are what the drivel is. It is ok for me to say this because all you trolls hit first with your bullying putdowns. I wish this was a fairytale but the guys in Glenfarne are preferable to the intolerant trolls/fascists on here.

I wonder what would happen some newbie here saying I love Israel or Israel is great!!

J Mysterio

What seems to be happening here is you have developed a persecution complex as a self defense mechanism to protect your fragile ego from the necessary and likely commonplace rebukes to your ridiculous understanding of the world in which we live.

Nodin

BuilderPlumber wrote: »

Yes, I saw a small group of sectarian Catholics...........

Sectarian ISIS supporting singing-hymns-in-the-pub catholics.


What was the name of the pub?

.jacksparrow.

This circus still going!?