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Aerial/saorview

  • 11-09-2014 10:01pm
    #1
    me4many
    Registered Users Posts: 277 ✭✭


    Any ideas on this please..
    I have a sat. dish which gives me quite a few free stations through an old sky box. There is also an aerial on the roof (I think its an mmds aerial) . The tv is a Samsung which is just a few years old which has an array of connection points on the back.
    My question is : if I connect the aerial with coax cable to the tv will I get any Irish stations.

    Thanks for any help.


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  • #2
    coylemj
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,499 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    If it's an MMDS aerial, possibly not (UHF aerial needed for Saorview) but it's definitely worth trying. The TV will need to have a digital tuner and support Saorview. However if you're close enough to the transmitter, you could pick up the signal with an indoor aerial so a rooftop MMDS aerial would probably do the biz.

    Roughly where do you live?


  • #3
    Tombs
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 13 ✭Tombs


    coylemj wrote: »
    ... if you're close enough to the transmitter, you could pick up the signal with an indoor aerial so a rooftop MMDS aerial would probably do the biz.

    If the MMDS aerial "works" for Saorview, it will be signal picked up on the downlead. MMDS aerials have a downconverter (like a satellite LNB) that needs power: they're no use for UHF broadcast.


  • #4
    me4many
    Registered Users Posts: 277 ✭✭me4many


    Thanks for replies.
    Should I connect coax directly to the tv or does it go to the sky box.
    I will make up a connection and see what happens.
    As far as I know he signal comes from Naul.
    Thanks


  • #5
    The Cush
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,679 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    me4many wrote: »
    There is also an aerial on the roof (I think its an mmds aerial) . The tv is a Samsung which is just a few years old which has an array of connection points on the back.

    Pics of MMDS aerials here - http://www.wrightsaerials.co.uk/aerialphotography/aerialingus/011.shtml

    Samsung TVs from about 2008/09 should have the necessary tuner to handle Saorview signals, what's the model no.?

    Test the feed from the aerial by connecting to the TV's aerial/RF-in socket.

    Saorview requires a UHF aerial like one of these - http://www.saorview.ie/get-saorview/make-the-switch/step-2-check-aerial/


  • #6
    me4many
    Registered Users Posts: 277 ✭✭me4many


    I'm not at the house so I will check aerial type and tv model no. later today.
    Thanks.


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  • #7
    me4many
    Registered Users Posts: 277 ✭✭me4many


    The aerial I have is like the first one in the mmds photo but mine also has an "Aerial" coming out the side.

    Samsung tv model code is : LE40R82BX/XEU

    I made a connection from the aerial to the tv but I didn't get a picture.

    Thanks


  • #8
    The Cush
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,679 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    me4many wrote: »
    The aerial I have is like the first one in the mmds photo but mine also has an "Aerial" coming out the side.

    Samsung tv model code is : LE40R82BX/XEU

    That model of TV appears to be quiet old now, circa 2007. Had a look at the manual online and it doesn't appear to have a digital tuner. This could be the reason it you don't get a picture.

    I'm guessing the aerial "coming out the side" of the MMDS aerial is like one of these?


  • #9
    me4many
    Registered Users Posts: 277 ✭✭me4many


    Yes, it looks like one of the first five in the link .
    What do you suggest I do to pick up the local channels ....( on a tight budget ..no sky) .
    Also, if I got a combo box would I pick up more channels than I do with my old Sky box or does it matter what box I have if the dish is pointed the right way.
    Thanks for any help.


  • #10
    The Cush
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,679 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    On a tight budget I'd just buy a standalone Saorview receiver like the Triax 212 here for €74 (twin-tuner - watch 1 channel/record 1 channel via external attached drive) or the Walker WP13 here for €59 (single tuner). Connect it to your existing TV via HDMI or scart.

    The links also have combi receivers available to buy but they cost more, the satellite part won't have the 7 day guide just now and next programme info. The satellite channels will be stored randomly as found requiring you to sort them as required. List of free-to-air channels at 28°E

    Regarding the aerial/cabling, depending on the age and condition it may have to be looked at if you dont get a signal with the Saorview receiver. I assume the MMDS aerial hasn't been used for a while and there are no plans to use it, if so it could be removed for good if the Saorview aerial is being worked on. The MMDS service is bein switched off in early 2016 in any case.


  • #11
    me4many
    Registered Users Posts: 277 ✭✭me4many


    Thanks for all the info. ( I'm going to test your patience a bit more)

    Can I take it that part of the aerial I have (the extended bit) is UHF and is suitable for soarview. I will check cable.

    The stations I pick up now on my old sky box are the same as I would get on a combo box.

    Thanks


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  • #12
    The Cush
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,679 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    me4many wrote: »
    Can I take it that part of the aerial I have (the extended bit) is UHF and is suitable for soarview. I will check cable.

    The stations I pick up now on my old sky box are the same as I would get on a combo box.

    If it looks like the aerial in the link I posted then it's UHF but as you can see in the link there are different group aerials covering all or a section of the UHF band. The only way to know for sure that it works for Saorview from your local transmitter is to connect it to a suitable Saorview receiver.

    How many cables are coming in from the 2 aerials (MMDS/UHF)? If only 1 then the 2 aerials are combined somewhere between the aerials and the TV point, this may or may not be a problem.


  • #13
    me4many
    Registered Users Posts: 277 ✭✭me4many


    There is just one cable coming down from the aerial. I will get my hands on a portable saorview tv and test it.

    What about the channels coming in on sky dish ( see above)

    Thanks


  • #14
    The Cush
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,679 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    me4many wrote: »
    What about the channels coming in on sky dish ( see above)

    Is there specific channels on the Sky box that you want, check it against the link I posted above to the wiki page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_free-to-air_channels_at_28%C2%B0E). I don't have a Sky box to check which if any are only available with a non-subscribed Sky box.


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