Cyclocross Season

Alek · 21-10-2014 11:40am

don't know how people manage double race weekends and work.

... and children. I am only allowed to race on Sunday because my wife is curious to see me humiliated racing.

:P

Means we all get an extra hour sleep before the race!

Yay. I need it more than ever.

my son will do his best to deprive me of this hour anyway....

lennymc · 21-10-2014 9:35pm

wont be out on Sunday. Enjoy it. Should be back to the next one.

Tenzor07 · 23-10-2014 3:05pm

Entries Close tomorrow so make sure you get in. Limited places in the B race remaining. There will be absolutely NO on the day sign on for the B race.

Directions to parking: SuperCross Cup

foxer3640 · 23-10-2014 8:18pm

Picked up my cx bike on Monday. Looking forward to giving the Waterford cx a go this saturday

Peterx · 26-10-2014 7:59pm

Another great race today in the Fixx coffeehouse cup, Tymon Park was the venue and the indian summer continued with a dadshing of wind the only addition to the sunny warmth on show.. The mud and the ****e will have to wait (thankfully) as another fast and furious course encouraged fast racing.
I won't know who won as I had to dash off straight after the race.

Raam · 26-10-2014 8:04pm

Those punchy sections in the woods and the small grassy hill got progressively harder as the race went on. Great race, loved it.

wanderer 22 · 26-10-2014 8:16pm

Wimped out today, so was just spectating. Got in one lap before the A race,very cool course, especially that winding bit!

nak · 26-10-2014 8:31pm

It was a lot of fun, first time I got to do all the laps.

Raam · 26-10-2014 8:34pm

I saw two lads in the B race get tangled and plough right into the barriers ahead of me. One lad got a rather large and possibly embarrassing rip in his shorts. It looked sore.

RobFowl · 26-10-2014 8:59pm

Enjoyed the race though seems odd doing cross in the warm and sunny conditions !
Needs more mud IMO ....

Tenzor07 · 26-10-2014 9:00pm

Yea very close racing in places, elbow to elbow at the start..

A lot of racers need to learn to call "on the left" or "on the right" when attempting a pass to avoid any clashing of bars though....

Raam · 26-10-2014 9:01pm

Tenzor07 wrote: »

Yea very close racing in places, elbow to elbow at the start..

A lot of racers need to learn to call "on the left" or "on the right" when attempting a pass to avoid any clashing of bars though....

You mean so you can defend easier against a pass? ;-)

RobFowl · 26-10-2014 9:01pm

Tenzor07 wrote: »

Yea very close racing in places, elbow to elbow at the start..

A lot of racers need to learn to call "on the left" or "on the right" when attempting a pass to avoid any clashing of bars though....

Tbf simply calling doesn't allow you through ! If on the same lap the rider ahead is perfectly entitled to try to stop you getting past...

RobFowl · 26-10-2014 9:02pm

Raam wrote: »

You mean so you can defend easier against a pass? ;-)

Great minds think alike

countrykid · 26-10-2014 9:03pm

Tenzor07 wrote: »

Yea very close racing in places, elbow to elbow at the start..

A lot of racers need to learn to call "on the left" or "on the right" when attempting a pass to avoid any clashing of bars though....

A lot of racers need to learn the difference between left and right first!!!
Heard a " on the right , on the right"... Obeyed request... Instantly Passed then on the left!!!!

Learnt today that cyclo cross is hard.... Very very hard

boomdocker · 26-10-2014 9:09pm

Raam wrote: »

I saw two lads in the B race get tangled and plough right into the barriers ahead of me. One lad got a rather large and possibly embarrassing rip in his shorts. It looked sore.

They went down right in front of me! Spectacular crash...spent most of rest of the lap looking at yer mans bare ar$e! Great motivation to pass I can tell ya!

nak · 26-10-2014 9:14pm

RobFowl wrote: »

Tbf simply calling doesn't allow you through ! If on the same lap the rider ahead is perfectly entitled to try to stop you getting past...

Yep, I got told "come on lady get out the way" in the woods on the last lap. Guess he wanted me to stop so he could get by, his race was obviously more important than mine.

Tenzor07 · 26-10-2014 9:20pm

RobFowl wrote: »

Tbf simply calling doesn't allow you through ! If on the same lap the rider ahead is perfectly entitled to try to stop you getting past...

Yup, true, had someone say on the right when he was just behind my back wheel, now that was wrong(too far back), but if someone is silently trying to pass you at an awkward corner or drop, well it could save both riders lost places by calling out just as you pass....as opposed to where you would Like to pass..

Tenzor07 · 26-10-2014 9:23pm

nak wrote: »

Yep, I got told "come on lady get out the way" in the woods on the last lap. Guess he wanted me to stop so he could get by, his race was obviously more important than mine.

Not very sportsmanlike, the top riders, e,g Seymour usually always say "on the left please..." etc...

nak · 26-10-2014 9:27pm

Tenzor07 wrote: »

Not very sportsmanlike, the top riders, e,g Seymour usually always say "on the left please..." etc...

I know and there's no point acting the ar*e on the last lap just before the finish when you aren't going to catch anyone.

NamelessPhil · 26-10-2014 9:49pm

Well done everyone. I was spectating, nice to meet Nak at the coffee stop afterwards. There was a fair turnout of Boardsies, riding and spectating.

Peterx · 26-10-2014 11:31pm

RobFowl wrote: »

Enjoyed the race though seems odd doing cross in the warm and sunny conditions !
Needs more mud IMO ....

Apologies if you brought out the wheels today. I had to dash after the race. The sun was nice. You can keep the mud

Alek · 26-10-2014 11:45pm

I wasn't even spectating. Cough and fever and face pain for two days now....

:(:( I get it always once a year at random time - why this weekend ffs

Dying light and this race in one go.

easygoing39 · 27-10-2014 12:14am

Are the results available anywhere????

Tenzor07 · 27-10-2014 12:20am

easygoing39 wrote: »

Are the results available anywhere????

Yes:

https://www.facebook.com/supercrosscup

Provisional of course..

Eamonnator · 27-10-2014 12:28am

Those links won't open for me. says, I need permission.

Tenzor07 · 27-10-2014 1:09am

oopss. ok, original links are here: https://www.facebook.com/supercrosscup

QueensGael · 28-10-2014 12:16pm

Good craic, thanks to the organisers for a great show! I lasted 3.5 laps before puncturing in the forest section, grrrr!

Raam · 28-10-2014 9:24pm

Anyone out there running a single chainring? If so, how have you got it set up?

lennymc · 28-10-2014 10:41pm

I was looking at it but haven't done it yet. You can go for bash rings and chain guides, which quite a few people are using. Alternatively you can look at a narrow wide chain ring on the front. I'm still investigating it tho

Eamonnator · 28-10-2014 10:46pm

Here's Sram's version:

http://www.cxmagazine.com/sram-force-cx1-1x-single-chainring-cyclocross-drivetrain-weight-price-review

Raam · 28-10-2014 10:55pm

The SRAM stuff looks nice but I ain't paying 800e just to get rid of a chainring.

Tenzor07 · 29-10-2014 12:41pm

Narrow wide chainring and clutch rear mech will do the job for around €100 or so....

You can remove the front mech also if you like, and change the left shifter to a standard brake only lever to save weight

Tenzor07 · 29-10-2014 4:38pm

Report: seven-women-take-startline-round-2-supercross-series

Eamonnator · 29-10-2014 4:47pm

Tenzor07 wrote: »

Narrow wide chainring and clutch rear mech will do the job for around €100 or so....

You can remove the front mech also if you like, and change the left shifter to a standard brake only lever to save weight

My son has just finished his conversion. He has a narrow/ wide 36 chainring on Shimano 105 cranks, 105 5700 shifter, 10 speed cassette (11-32), and a shimano clutch rear mech. He has it working spot on. I had a go on it, this afternoon, seems perfect to me. He had to make an adaptor for the mech to adjust the cable shift.
I will be using this bike on Sunday, in the CX race, in the North. It will be my first ever CX race.

countrykid · 29-10-2014 6:19pm

Eamonnator wrote: »

My son has just finished his conversion. He has a narrow/ wide 36 chainring on Shimano 105 cranks, 105 5700 shifter, 10 speed cassette (11-32), and a shimano clutch rear mech. He has it working spot on. I had a go on it, this afternoon, seems perfect to me. He had to make an adaptor for the mech to adjust the cable shift.
I will be using this bike on Sunday, in the CX race, in the North. It will be my first ever CX race.

Why did he need an adaptor for cable shift???

Eamonnator · 29-10-2014 6:34pm

countrykid wrote: »

Why did he need an adaptor for cable shift???

Because the Shimano 105 shifter is not 100% compatible with the Shimano Zee rear mech, that he's using. The Zee mech needs slightly less cable to shift than a Shimano road mech.
This is the mech, that he's using

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/ie/en/shimano-zee-m640-shadow-10-speed-rear-mech/rp-prod82431

countrykid · 29-10-2014 6:40pm

Eamonnator wrote: »

Because the Shimano 105 shifter is not 100% compatible with the Shimano Zee rear mech, that he's using. The Zee mech needs slightly less cable to shift than a Shimano road mech.
This is the mech, that he's using

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/ie/en/shimano-zee-m640-shadow-10-speed-rear-mech/rp-prod82431

Very good
Nice to see engineering fixs being used..
Where do you source the narrow wide ring!?

Eamonnator · 29-10-2014 6:48pm

I'm not 100% sure, but I think, it was one of these:

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/race-face-single-narrowwide-chainring/

lennymc · 29-10-2014 7:05pm

Tenzor07 wrote: »

Narrow wide chainring and clutch rear mech will do the job for around €100 or so....

You can remove the front mech also if you like, and change the left shifter to a standard brake only lever to save weight

quick question tenzor - do you know offhand what clutch rear mechs are compatible with road brifters?

lennymc · 29-10-2014 7:06pm

Eamonnator wrote: »

My son has just finished his conversion. He has a narrow/ wide 36 chainring on Shimano 105 cranks, 105 5700 shifter, 10 speed cassette (11-32), and a shimano clutch rear mech. He has it working spot on. I had a go on it, this afternoon, seems perfect to me. He had to make an adaptor for the mech to adjust the cable shift.
I will be using this bike on Sunday, in the CX race, in the North. It will be my first ever CX race.

Should have read the replies....

Must pop round and have a look at his setup.

Eamonnator · 29-10-2014 8:45pm

I'll have the bike from Saturday, until next Wednesday. Call anytime.

dave2pvd · 30-10-2014 2:13am

Paul Components make a really good chain guide for single ring conversions. I wasted money on 2 others types before finally spending the money on this one:

Edit: the shorter chain ring bolts came from problemsolversbike.com

Raam · 30-10-2014 10:28am

Maybe I will wait till stuff breaks before changing.

Alek · 30-10-2014 11:27am

A 8 or 9sp rear MTB derailleur will work with 10sp shimano road shifters with no problem. They have only changed the cable pull in 10sp MTB ones.

Just realised that 11-36 and 42T will give me wider range than 12-27 and 44/34T that I currently have

Huge jumps though... Checking prices...

Eamonnator · 30-10-2014 3:43pm

But, can you get a clutch type rear mech in 9 speed?
If you can, that would be a neat solution.

Alek · 30-10-2014 3:51pm

Does "Shadow" technology mean that the derailleur is a clutch-type? If so, there is plenty.

Tenzor07 · 30-10-2014 4:55pm

Eamonnator wrote: »

But, can you get a clutch type rear mech in 9 speed?
If you can, that would be a neat solution.

Only in 10-Spd for MTB clutch mechs..

Narrow/wide chainring up front and a road mech should do the job of keeping the chain on, take a few links out of your chain also.

dave2pvd · 30-10-2014 5:10pm

Tenzor07 wrote: »

Only in 10-Spd for MTB clutch mechs..

Narrow/wide chainring up front and a road mech should do the job of keeping the chain on, take a few links out of your chain also.

Or just buy a chain guide and then you can use any 10sp ring you want. Cheaper that way. Cheaper is good - CX consumes components at a fierce rate.

boomdocker · 30-10-2014 5:35pm

Some comments...

With a narrow-wide chainring and a clutch derailleur you have no need for any sort of chain device. I run this setup on two mtbs and it works...previously I had a chain device and non clutch mech with narrow wide - didn;t work so good. ALL chain devices are a pain in the h*** if you ask me.

So the key is the clutch mech.

AFAIK clutch mechs are only available in 10 spd an up. I use Shimano Zee, cheap and cheerful and almost indestructible

Finally - for CX - why a single ring? Surely you would be under geared?? Both for racing and for spins on the road??

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