Clontarf Early morning runners

Johnnio13

Can anyone shed some light on the group of runners that do an early morning run opp Clontarf Garda Station - seem to be running for a fairly large trophy. They finish up about 815am back at the car park opp Garda Station.

kit3

Johnnio13 wrote: »

Can anyone shed some light on the group of runners that do an early morning run opp Clontarf Garda Station - seem to be running for a fairly large trophy. They finish up about 815am back at the car park opp Garda Station.

East of Ireland Marathons - 10 marathons in 10 days alternating between Clontarf & Howth - today is day 5

DarByrne1980

kit3 wrote: »

East of Ireland Marathons - 10 marathons in 10 days alternating between Clontarf & Howth - today is day 5

10 marathons in 10 days, tats mentel. I seen them yesterday morning. I was wonderin why so many of them looked like they were shufling along! That cant be good for ya

plodder

DarByrne1980 wrote: »

10 marathons in 10 days, tats mentel. I seen them yesterday morning. I was wonderin why so many of them looked like they were shufling along! That cant be good for ya

I saw them on Friday (day 1) and I thought they must have been starting around 8 because there were some still coming in around lunch time. Rather them than me, all's I can say ...

Johnnio13

Holy sh$t - fair play to them.
I'd be hobbling to work after a one half marathon. But 10 - hats off.

menoscemo

DarByrne1980 wrote: »

10 marathons in 10 days, tats mentel. I seen them yesterday morning. I was wonderin why so many of them looked like they were shufling along! That cant be good for ya

The ones that start at 8am are people who need an 'early start' they are those who will take longer than 5 hours I think, the majority are starting at 9am (20 are doing the full 10 in 10 with approx another 20 running each day).
The leader has ran 3:15 or faster for each of the 4 days so far, that's hardly shuffling....

robinph

Thread tidied up.

Shuffle along now.

barryoneill50

robinph wrote: »

Thread tidied up.

Shuffle along now.

mmmm

DarByrne1980

menoscemo wrote: »

The leader has ran 3:15 or faster for each of the 4 days so far, that's hardly shuffling....

that is some going. What is his PB for the maraton? it must not have being him who I saw

DarByrne1980

T runner wrote: »

Calling his comment "uninformed" is attacking the post. I'm sure many other ultra runners would challenge the lazy generalisation that 10 marathons in 10 days "cant be good for you". That's not attacking the poster.

in general terms they dont look like the fittest group of runners i ever seen so does not look good to me

T runner

DarByrne1980 wrote: »

in general terms they dont look like the fittest group of runners i ever seen so does not look good to me

I couldn't run 10 marathons in 10 days. Could you?

If not then they are specifically fitter for the challenge in hand than you or I.

If you looked at their results you'd see most of them have been doing those marathons for years. They might be sore after 10 of them but that's the nature of the challenge.

rainbow kirby

DarByrne1980 wrote: »

does not look good to me

I'd be quite sure that looking good to you was never their intention.

DarByrne1980

T runner wrote: »

I couldn't run 10 marathons in 10 days. Could you?

not 10 fast marathons, but I am sure I could do 10 at some pace. sure didnt eddie izzord run 40 odd marathons. didnt seem good for him from what i can recall

Ososlo

DarByrne1980 wrote: »

not 10 fast marathons, but I am sure I could do 10 at some pace. sure didnt eddie izzord run 40 odd marathons. didnt seem good for him from what i can recall

Dear god don't get them started on Eddie Izoard!!!!!!!!

T runner

DarByrne1980 wrote: »

not 10 fast marathons, but I am sure I could do 10 at some pace. sure didnt eddie izzord run 40 odd marathons. didnt seem good for him from what i can recall

There are runners here who run in races that last a week. Like these guys they have been doing it a while and are usually adequately prepared though (repeating myself but check the results on their website).

If you still feel your comments are informed, sure head to their FB page, warn them that what their doing is putting them in peril, tell them about Eddie Izzard..... and sure let us know here so we can click in and follow the action!

average_runner

No offence, but some runners here are a bit defensive, if is good or not for you that's up to each individual. No science saying it is good for you, while there is reports on the wear and tear of running on the body.

Depends on what you believe in and the injuries people had over the years, but there is alot of evidence of people even on boards picking alot of injuries up who did more than one marathon a year compare to those that didnt, even in our club.

DarByrne1980

T runner wrote: »

There are runners here who run in races that last a week. Like these guys they have been doing it a while and are usually adequately prepared though (repeating myself but check the results on their website).

If you still feel your comments are informed, sure head to their FB page, warn them that what their doing is putting them in peril, tell them about Eddie Izzard..... and sure let us know here so we can click in and follow the action!

it is funny how a simple comment can wind up some people. Can i also say i don't think playing 5 aside football on an astro pitch when you are overwright is not good for you. Just my observation. I taught this was a message board.

I personally dont think its good for you. That is why i will never do anything like that. Thats my opinion and you're arguing against it will not change it. So no I wont warn them on facebook because im sure they wont agree with me and no amount of me telling them otherwise will change their mninds.

TFBubendorfer

average_runner wrote: »

No offence, but some runners here are a bit defensive, if is good or not for you that's up to each individual. No science saying it is good for you, while there is reports on the wear and tear of running on the body.

Depends on what you believe in and the injuries people had over the years, but there is alot of evidence of people even on boards picking alot of injuries up who did more than one marathon a year compare to those that didnt, even in our club.

Disagreeing with your opinion is being defensive?

I can give you a couple of counter-examples of runners who ran over 80 marathon last year without getting injured. I can also give you plenty of examples of runners who didn't run any marathons at all and still got injured.

20 years ago, before marathon running became mainstream, they were thought to be solely for the deranged ones.

Actually, I very much agree with one of your sentences: if it's good or not for you that's up to each individual

dukeraoul

Can I ask why my post highlighting that I reported Thomas B The mod's sarcastic post was deleted? The community needs to know people call it out when a mod is rude to posters on A/R.

average_runner

TFBubendorfer wrote: »

Disagreeing with your opinion is being defensive?

I can give you a couple of counter-examples of runners who ran over 80 marathon last year without getting injured. I can also give you plenty of examples of runners who didn't run any marathons at all and still got injured.

20 years ago, before marathon running became mainstream, they were thought to be solely for the deranged ones.

Actually, I very much agree with one of your sentences: if it's good or not for you that's up to each individual

I thinks its the manner of the way it was put by both sides!
Of course there is counter examples, lets see how these 80 people are in their old age, they could be perfectly ok and might not. Wasn't having a dig at you in particular

ThisRegard

average_runner wrote: »

but there is alot of evidence of people even on boards picking alot of injuries up who did more than one marathon a year compare to those that didnt, even in our club.

DarByrne1980 wrote: »

I personally dont think its good for you.

average_runner wrote: »

lets see how these 80 people are in their old age, they could be perfectly ok and might not.

There's a lad around who has ran over 400 marathons at this stage, I think he done that 10 marathons in 10 day challenge last year or the year before too. He's in fine shape, he's at some point in his 60s and he completed his 400th this year.

TFBubendorfer

ThisRegard wrote: »

There's a lad around who has ran over 400 marathons at this stage, I think he done that 10 marathons in 10 day challenge last year or the year before too. He's in fine shape.

That's Dave Brady.

Though how much of a gentleman he is is even more remarkable than his marathoning

ThisRegard

Yes, didn't want to name him for some strange reason of mine. As you say, he's an absolute gent and the lengths he goes to to run a race or marathon is nuts.

HelenAnne

Some people play golf every day (probably!), Dave races every day. It's his hobby and it's social and he loves it, so why not? Each to their own, as people are saying upthread :-)

And Dave and any of his 100 marathon pals I've met are so generous with advice and encouragement to new marathoners; sometimes in the run up to your first marathon it's nice and reassuring to meet people who think marathons are no big deal.

ThisRegard

HelenAnne wrote: »

Each to their own, as people are saying upthread :-)

I wasn't knocking it, I was using him as a shining example that it doesn't kill you, despite the large number of marathons he has ran and him being around retirement age.

average_runner

ThisRegard wrote: »

There's a lad around who has ran over 400 marathons at this stage, I think he done that 10 marathons in 10 day challenge last year or the year before too. He's in fine shape, he's at some point in his 60s and he completed his 400th this year.

There is always corner cases, i know guys who did marathons 4/5 times a year and cant run now due to knee damage from it according to the surgeon!!

I just dont think we should judge either side as we don't know how good it is or not for each individual till we see the results of it in years to come!

HelenAnne

ThisRegard wrote: »

I wasn't knocking it, I was using him as a shining example that it doesn't kill you, despite the large number of marathons he has ran and him being around retirement age.

Sorry! I know you weren't I was backing up what you & TBubendorfer said about him being great and nice and that all that marathoning hadn't done him any harm.

Sorry for the misunderstanding.

DarByrne1980

TFBubendorfer wrote: »

I can give you a couple of counter-examples of runners who ran over 80 marathon last year without getting injured. I can also give you plenty of examples of runners who didn't run any marathons at all and still got injured.

Following that logic. Keith Richards has done a shed load of drugs and is grand. I know a couple of lads who tried soft drugs a few times and resulted in bad effects.

menoscemo

DarByrne1980 wrote: »

it is funny how a simple comment can wind up some people. Can i also say i don't think playing 5 aside football on an astro pitch when you are overwright is not good for you. Just my observation. I taught this was a message board.

I personally dont think its good for you. That is why i will never do anything like that. Thats my opinion and you're arguing against it will not change it. So no I wont warn them on facebook because im sure they wont agree with me and no amount of me telling them otherwise will change their mninds.

I can't see what you are trying to achieve here other than troll. A good few of the people taking part in and organising those marathons are posters on here. Are you trying to wind them up somehow or provoke a response?

No-one asked you whether or not you thought it was good for them, I am sure none of them care what you think tbh. They aren't asking for your adulation or approval. Nobody is claiming to be a great athlete or anything like that; they are just a bunch of adults taking part in a low key event and doing something they enjoy doing and want to take part in.

Why do you feel the need to give your opinion on that?

DarByrne1980

menoscemo wrote: »

No-one asked you whether or not you thought it was good for them or not, I am sure none of them care what you think tbh. They aren't asking for your adulation or approval. Nobody is claiming to be a great athlete or anything like that; they are just a bunch of adults taking part in a low key event and doing something they enjoy doing and want to take part in.

Why do you feel the need to give your opinion on that?

I just made a throw away comment about me thinking it could not be good for you. A lot of them didn't look too lively yesterday. Feck sake, yis are all very sensitife around here. Do you always keep you're opinions to yourselve

menoscemo

DarByrne1980 wrote: »

I just made a throw away comment about me thinking it could not be good for you

Do you think, boxing, MMA, Rugby, Ironmans are good for you? Do you want to go over to any of those forums and tell them that? Probably not, because that would be considered trolling.

As the Rock says:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86MO-JWTNjo

DarByrne1980

menoscemo wrote: »

Do you think, boxing, MMA, Rugby, Ironmans are good for you? Do you want to go over to any of those forums and tell them that? Probably not, because that would be considered trolling.

As the Rock says:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86MO-JWTNjo

I would not think 10 boxing matches in 10 days would be good for you
I would not think 10 MMA matches in 10 days would be good for you
I would not think 10 rugby matches in 10 days would be good for you
I would not think 10 ironmen in 10 days would be good for you
sure the top GAA inter county GAA teams were giving out when they had to play 2 matches in 6 days

And that's the peoples elbow write back at you!

ultraman1

in fairness,any one can do an ironman,,,mci style of course

RacoonQueen

DarByrne1980 wrote: »

I would not think 10 boxing matches in 10 days would be good for you
I would not think 10 MMA matches in 10 days would be good for you
I would not think 10 rugby matches in 10 days would be good for you
I would not think 10 ironmen in 10 days would be good for you
sure the top GAA inter county GAA teams were giving out when they had to play 2 matches in 6 days

And that's the peoples elbow write back at you!

Technically, running is a lot more natural than any of the above. In fact, it is probably, one of the most natural things in the world. The human body is built for endurance, it's built to walk/run, our systems are designed to fuel and work efficiently over long distances like this. Our ancestors would trek for days after a bloody wooly mammoth waiting for it to get weak enough to kill and then drag it back to their families...

average_runner

RacoonQueen wrote: »

Technically, running is a lot more natural than any of the above. In fact, it is probably, one of the most natural things in the world. The human body is built for endurance, it's built to walk/run, our systems are designed to fuel and work efficiently over long distances like this. Our ancestors would trek for days after a bloody wooly mammoth waiting for it to get weak enough to kill and then drag it back to their families...

I think you mean, the human body was developed for endurance over a 1000 years ago.
Nowadays we are built to depend on cushion runners, gps watches and the tv remote control

Oisin11178

menoscemo wrote: »

I can't see what you are trying to achieve here other than troll. A good few of the people taking part in and organising those marathons are posters on here. Are you trying to wind them up somehow or provoke a response?

No-one asked you whether or not you thought it was good for them, I am sure none of them care what you think tbh. They aren't asking for your adulation or approval. Nobody is claiming to be a great athlete or anything like that; they are just a bunch of adults taking part in a low key event and doing something they enjoy doing and want to take part in.

Why do you feel the need to give your opinion on that?

This post hit the nail on the head. I can safely say that nobody running, organising or marshalling in the 10in10 cares what the op think of there looks or fittness. Im 1 of 2 Directors of The east of Ireland marathons and am also running the 10 marathons. Why didnt the op come over and ask what was going on instead of making up his own opinions based on no knolwledge except what some people looked like. By the way we are raising money for temple street while running and hopefully will raise in the multiple of thousands by the end. Thats why i never want anything to do with the Eoi on boards. I agree with niall that the op is a troll and cant believe hes been allowed continue to this point. Id say more but id only be feeding the troll.

Johnnio13

Back on topic I went out for a run Tues lunchtime and the first maybe 10runners were home already. None of them puffing or spluttering. So regardless of build, stature etc mentioned in previous comments they seem well able.
My question now is, do they not have jobs? Or do they take 8 days off if they want to do this? That's commitment.

And just to clarify, I was the OP not the troll mentioned in Oisin's post...

Ososlo

Johnnio13 wrote: »

Back on topic I went out for a run Tues lunchtime and the first maybe 10runners were home already. None of them puffing or spluttering. So regardless of build, stature etc mentioned in previous comments they seem well able.
My question now is, do they not have jobs? Or do they take 8 days off if they want to do this? That's commitment.

In most jobs would you not get over 20 days of leave a year? 8 days out of that to do something you love wouldn't be such a chore I'm sure!

menoscemo

Johnnio13 wrote: »

Back on topic I went out for a run Tues lunchtime and the first maybe 10runners were home already. None of them puffing or spluttering. So regardless of build, stature etc mentioned in previous comments they seem well able.
My question now is, do they not have jobs? Or do they take 8 days off if they want to do this? That's commitment.

And just to clarify, I was the OP not the troll mentioned in Oisin's post...

started on a Friday, finishes on a Sunday so they 'only' have to take 6 days off....I guess most take it from their annual leave.

ultraman1

menoscemo wrote: »

started on a Friday, finishes on a Sunday so they 'only' have to take 6 days off....I guess most take it from their annual leave.

Most of dem are on vtos scheme....

DarByrne1980

fair play to them.

Johnnio13 wrote: »

And just to clarify, I was the OP not the troll mentioned in Oisin's post...

I wasn't trolling. I made a general observation and somebody else made a snide comment and got pulled totally off topic.

pconn062

Oisin11178 wrote: »

This post hit the nail on the head. I can safely say that nobody running, organising or marshalling in the 10in10 cares what the op think of there looks or fittness. Im 1 of 2 Directors of The east of Ireland marathons and am also running the 10 marathons. Why didnt the op come over and ask what was going on instead of making up his own opinions based on no knolwledge except what some people looked like. By the way we are raising money for temple street while running and hopefully will raise in the multiple of thousands by the end. Thats why i never want anything to do with the Eoi on boards. I agree with niall that the op is a troll and cant believe hes been allowed continue to this point. Id say more but id only be feeding the troll.

In fairness, the OP never said anything negative about the event or runners, it was a different poster. Also, it's probably best not to call someone a troll, if you have an issue with a post use the report post function and the mod's will look after it.

dublin runner

Whatever about possible misunderstandings above, 10 marathons in 10 days is tough no matter what the pace. The leader in particular, with his 7 marathons currently averaging around the 3.15 mark is great going, especially when you factor in the difficulty of the Howth course.

menoscemo

dublin runner wrote: »

Whatever about possible misunderstandings above, 10 marathons in 10 days is tough no matter what the pace. The leader in particular, with his 7 marathons currently averaging around the 3.15 mark is great going, especially when you factor in the difficulty of the Howth course.

Funny enough the Howth course (4 laps of howth head) seems to be producing marginally faster times than the clontarf course. Just goes to show the Clontarf HM course is not a fast one ( the marathon course they use is pretty much 2 laps of that).

The leader (who I am sure you know paced the 1:30 group in Clontarf with yourself) has built up a 2hr lead over the 7 marathons, but the battle for 2nd/3rd/4th looks very tight.

dublin runner

menoscemo wrote: »

Funny enough the Howth course (4 laps of howth head) seems to be producing marginally faster times than the clontraf course. Just goes to show the Clontarf HM course is not a fast one.

The leader (who I am sure you know paced the 1:30 group in Clontarf with yourself) has built up a 2hr lead over the 7 marathons, but the battle for 2nd/3rd/4th looks very tight.

That's right, he did. Small world

Yeah, that's interesting. I suppose the wind might be a big factor (don't know if ot goes on that blasted beach!) I don't know if that type event will ever be for me but serious credit to them.

That's the great thing about running. Enough room for the fast/slow, 100m to the ridiculous distances etc etc!

Oisin11178

pconn062 wrote: »

In fairness, the OP never said anything negative about the event or runners, it was a different poster. Also, it's probably best not to call someone a troll, if you have an issue with a post use the report post function and the mod's will look after it.

Yeah i meant the next guy not the op. And hes a troll imo. Opinions are great arent they.

Oisin11178

menoscemo wrote: »

Funny enough the Howth course (4 laps of howth head) seems to be producing marginally faster times than the clontarf course. Just goes to show the Clontarf HM course is not a fast one ( the marathon course they use is pretty much 2 laps of that).

The leader (who I am sure you know paced the 1:30 group in Clontarf with yourself) has built up a 2hr lead over the 7 marathons, but the battle for 2nd/3rd/4th looks very tight.

He did 3.10 today on howth today on day 8

Oisin11178

3.16 and 3.12 on the last 2 days for the winner Brian o Kelly