social media and on the dole?

CrazyRabbit

I have strong opinions on this and would love to give and in-depth answer, but I have to hurry out to collect me dole and get to the bookies before the races.

The One Doctor

I've been on the dole for 10 weeks now. I get my money today but most of my time will be spent on other things, including finding jobs.

Why the hell should I be embarrassed about being on the dole?

denhaagenite

It's the ones on the dole, living in council houses and posting photos of their Irish Water letters with "No consent, no contract" written across them in big black capitals make me larf.

cloud493

I think il post a rant on Facebook about how I pay my taxes to fund scumbags on the dole, and for Enda Kenny to wear a fancy suit.

Chucken

denhaagenite wrote: »

It's the ones on the dole, living in council houses and posting photos of their Irish Water letters with "No consent, no contract" written across them in big black capitals make me larf.

Why?

RayM

When I was on the dole, I was so ashamed that I'd announce on social media that I was just nipping out to sign on the sex-offender's register.

denhaagenite

Chucken wrote: »

Why?

They have the audacity to call others out for being too lazy to protest the water charges but they can't seem to understand that if you're working 40+ hrs a week, it's probably more important to you to spend Saturday afternoon getting your house in order rather than protesting about a charge (not a tax) that is long overdue. Someone might be living the life of Reilly as a housewife having never worked a day in their lives with 3 children supported by the tax payer and a sperm donor who *of course* doesn't live with them but has fathered those 3 children, however others may be trying to set a proper example for their children and (since they work for it) know the value of healthcare, water, electricity, gas etc etc. I've even seen people living in council houses whinging about property tax!

If your wish to have a family and be a "full time Mommy" is 100% funded by the taxpayer then they will also be picking up your water bill.

KungPao

Lazy bastards, the lot of them. Plenty of jobs out there, deli staff, cleaning staff etc. Just because you may have spent thousands getting a collage education, they think they they are too good to clean toilets in Supermacs.

€8.65 is a great wage, they should be happy to get that.

If not, just put your skills to good use by doing an internship and increase some company's profits. And for an extra €50, great life for them on that money.

Bloody scroungers.

Czarcasm

denhaagenite wrote: »

They have the audacity to call others out for being too lazy to protest the water charges but they can't seem to understand that if you're working 40+ hrs a week, it's probably more important to you to spend Saturday afternoon getting your house in order rather than protesting about a charge (not a tax) that is long overdue. Someone might be living the life of Reilly as a housewife having never worked a day in their lives with 3 children supported by the tax payer and a sperm donor who *of course* doesn't live with them but has fathered those 3 children, however others may be trying to set a proper example for their children and (since they work for it) know the value of healthcare, water, electricity, gas etc etc. I've even seen people living in council houses whinging about property tax!

If your wish to have a family and be a "full time Mommy" is 100% funded by the taxpayer then they will also be picking up your water bill.

Fcuking hell! :pac:

I think the State would make far more revenue from a verbal and literary diahorrea charge than any water charges!

It might, just might, make people think twice before they offload with both barrels online.

bear1

Irishguy16 wrote: »

I just logged into my Facebook account and noticed an acquaintance of mine put up a status saying "Busy day tomorrow, have to get my dole and then go into town". This status really annoyed me a lot. Does this person have no shame? Is he trying to glorify the fact that he gets free money? I have no time whatsoever for people who refuse to work when there are jobs out there. How is he not embarrassed about being on the dole and why is he letting his entire friend list know that he is lazy? If that was me I would be mortified.I'm not trying to start an argument because I know that not everyone on the dole is lazy and people do have the potential to get somewhere in life. I am temped to write him a status, but I know that I will lose the head completely and offend him

You're post is just nothing but utter horse****.
There are genuine people out there who have had or have no choice but to do it.
I had to do it during the crisis, was I embarrassed? No. I paid my taxes long before I went on it and used this as justification to actually go on the dole but more importantly I had to.. to SURVIVE.
How you're post got 2 thanks is beyond me but you sound like such a tool writing stuff like that.

FloatingVoter

Oh ...the daily dole thread. Where the "workers" give out about the unemployed.

Dear Employed People,

You'll not be minimum wagers or scambridge (they have to be seen to be working) so probably employed in a job that comes with computer access and little supervision.
Did daddy tell you you were destined for great things and a little helping hand wouldn't hurt ? Did mum say you're smarter than that waster friend of yours on Facebook who can't even get a job ?

Try some truth.

You are employed.
You are not special.
You are average at best. Spectacular in a good moment.
You will die.

Only the first sentence sets you apart from the rest of humanity. And its a very fragile thing to use as a means of self-esteem.

Penny Tration

KungPao wrote: »

Lazy bastards, the lot of them. Plenty of jobs out there, deli staff, cleaning staff etc. Just because you may have spent thousands getting a COLLAGE education , they think they they are too good to clean toilets in Supermacs.

€8.65 is a great wage, they should be happy to get that.

If not, just put your skills to good use by doing an internship and increase some company's profits. And for an extra €50, great life for them on that money.

Bloody scroungers.

I take it that you didn't?

h2005

Irishguy16 wrote: »

I just logged into my Facebook account and noticed an acquaintance of mine put up a status saying "Busy day tomorrow, have to get my dole and then go into town". This status really annoyed me a lot. Does this person have no shame? Is he trying to glorify the fact that he gets free money? I have no time whatsoever for people who refuse to work when there are jobs out there. How is he not embarrassed about being on the dole and why is he letting his entire friend list know that he is lazy? If that was me I would be mortified.I'm not trying to start an argument because I know that not everyone on the dole is lazy and people do have the potential to get somewhere in life. I am temped to write him a status, but I know that I will lose the head completely and offend him

Just delete him as a "friend". I'd say he will be gutted.

KungPao

green_screen wrote: »

I take it that you didn't?

I did go to collage actually. One of the most prestigious collages in Ireland, I'll have you know.

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The whole post was tongue in cheek btw.

porsche959

Ah yes, it's after hours weekly re-enactment of the Monty Python "Four Yorkshiremen" sketch:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FatHLHG2uGY

The One Doctor

denhaagenite wrote: »

They have the audacity to call others out for being too lazy to protest the water charges but they can't seem to understand that if you're working 40+ hrs a week, it's probably more important to you to spend Saturday afternoon getting your house in order rather than protesting about a charge (not a tax) that is long overdue. Someone might be living the life of Reilly as a housewife having never worked a day in their lives with 3 children supported by the tax payer and a sperm donor who *of course* doesn't live with them but has fathered those 3 children, however others may be trying to set a proper example for their children and (since they work for it) know the value of healthcare, water, electricity, gas etc etc. I've even seen people living in council houses whinging about property tax!

If your wish to have a family and be a "full time Mommy" is 100% funded by the taxpayer then they will also be picking up your water bill.

Do you just type whatever comes into your head? That's a completely stereotypical view. Also, no-one who looks after 3 children on the dole has the life of Reilly.

Do you write for the Independent, by any chance?

kneemos

KungPao wrote: »

I did go to collage actually. One of the most prestigious collages in Ireland, I'll have you know.

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The whole post was tongue in cheek btw.

Were you shoved in the back door?

pickarooney

green_screen wrote: »

Because he's on the dole, he's lazy, but other dole claimants aren't? How do you know he's not going into town for an interview?

Yeah, because when you have a job interview the biggest part of your day that you need to announce to your friends is not that but that you're collecting your dole.

draiochtanois

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Shakespeare's Sister

denhaagenite wrote: »

They have the audacity to call others out for being too lazy to protest the water charges but they can't seem to understand that if you're working 40+ hrs a week, it's probably more important to you to spend Saturday afternoon getting your house in order rather than protesting about a charge (not a tax) that is long overdue. Someone might be living the life of Reilly as a housewife having never worked a day in their lives with 3 children supported by the tax payer and a sperm donor who *of course* doesn't live with them but has fathered those 3 children, however others may be trying to set a proper example for their children and (since they work for it) know the value of healthcare, water, electricity, gas etc etc. I've even seen people living in council houses whinging about property tax!

If your wish to have a family and be a "full time Mommy" is 100% funded by the taxpayer then they will also be picking up your water bill.

Ah here. I understand your annoyance at those who whinge about others not protesting, and there are sponges out there (far less than is believed though) but life of Reilly when you're a single parent on benefits and have three children?
It isn't always a case that the father is just a sperm donor either. Could simply be an ended relationship.
I don't know about the water charge either - we have been paying for water, even if it didn't have the label "water charge" on it.

Son Of A Vidic

KungPao wrote: »

I did go to collage actually. One of the most prestigious collages in Ireland, I'll have you know.

Went to Uni myself, but I'm dying to know what a 'collage' actually is.

KERSPLAT!

MOD

Jaysus lads we get it, he/she spelt college wrong, can we move on please

Deco99

Being seen collecting your dole or spelling college wrong.. I dont know which is more awky momos

Iseedeadpixels

KERSPLAT! wrote: »

MOD

Jaysus lads we get it, he/she spelt college wrong, can we move on please

It's Jesus :P

*Runs*

KungPao

Can I please clarify that I meant to spell "college" incorrectly

I am very tired today and my brain is not working so well, so my tongue-in-cheek posts may not have made sense.

Bubbaclaus

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Why?

What's there to be ashamed of?

Happily declaring to 300+ people that I can't support myself and need handouts? I'd keep it to myself thanks

Deco99

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

Happily declaring to 300+ people that I can't support myself and need handouts? I'd keep it to myself thanks

You should have. I think the deeper issue is not the dole but why people use facebook, id be more ashamed of that.

Shakespeare's Sister

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

Happily declaring to 300+ people that I can't support myself and need handouts? I'd keep it to myself thanks

If you were laid off you'd feel you'd better not claim while job searching?
Sure thang...

Obviously you know there's no shame in that. Silly.

Timberrrrrrrr

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

Happily declaring to 300+ people that I can't support myself and need handouts? I'd keep it to myself thanks

So saying "I've a busy day ahead, gotta collect my dole then head to town" is now considered "happily declaring" that you can't support yourself and need "handouts"?

Do you see people on the dole as something to be ashamed of|? Should they be locked away and not spoken of like the bastard children of single mothers in 50's Ireland? :rolleyes:

Bubbaclaus

Shakespeare's Sister wrote: »

If you were laid off you'd feel you'd better not claim while job searching?
Sure thang...

Obviously you know there's no shame in that. Silly.

Are you deliberately misinterpreting me? My issue isn't collecting the dole. My issue is the "off to collect the dole lol" posts some people happily make on facebook. Only scroungers happily declare they are getting the dole on social media. A person that's laid off would never post something like that.

Bubbaclaus

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

So saying "I've a busy day ahead, gotta collect my dole then head to town" is now considered "happily declaring" that you can't support yourself and need "handouts"?

Do you see people on the dole as something to be ashamed of|? Should they be locked away and not spoken of like the bastard children of single mothers in 50's Ireland? :rolleyes:

Feel free to think that's what I posted. It isn't, but what can I do if you're going to misinterpret what I post regardless?

Timberrrrrrrr

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

Feel free to think that's what I posted. It isn't, but what can I do if you're going to misinterpret what I post regardless?

You are the one claiming that people shouldn't be talking about going to the dole on social media! Do you see the dole as something to be ashamed of? Do you look down at people on the dole?

Adamantium

http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=41355&d=1390200402

pickarooney

There's no shame in going for a ****e either but who needs to know that on facebook?

KERSPLAT!

I wouldn't put up a status about claiming the dole myself. I wouldn't like being on the dole so I would feel no need to tell people that i'm claiming it

Timberrrrrrrr

pickarooney wrote: »

There's no shame in going for a ****e either but who needs to know that on facebook?

I don't understand the reasoning behind anyone posting their daily itinerary or letting people know where they are at every minute of the day but i certainly wouldn't sneer and look down on someone just because they are collecting dole payments.

akkakkman

Corvus Maximus wrote: »

Went to Uni myself, but I'm dying to know what a 'collage' actually is.

What Uni?

Collage is a technique of an art production, primarily used in the visual arts, where the artwork is made from an assemblage of different forms, thus creating a new whole.

Iwasfrozen

What I'd like to know is how can a person on the dole afford a computer? Obviously we're giving him too much.

Timberrrrrrrr

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

What I'd like to know is how can a person on the dole afford a computer? Obviously we're giving him too much.

Or he posted from the library where he may have been getting cv's printed out

Czarcasm

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

So saying "I've a busy day ahead, gotta collect my dole then head to town" is now considered "happily declaring" that you can't support yourself and need "handouts"?

Certainly reads that way.

Do you see people on the dole as something to be ashamed of|? Should they be locked away and not spoken of like the bastard children of single mothers in 50's Ireland? :rolleyes:

Quite the leap in comparisons you're making there, equating people on social welfare with young unmarried mothers and their children who were forced into intolerable cruelty and ignored by society. The person that can afford an internet connection, let alone be posting nonsense on Facebook, is hardly that badly off.

Should they be ashamed that they have to claim social welfare payments?

No, but a bit of humility would be nice.

Iwasfrozen

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Or he posted from the library where he may have been getting cv's printed out

He'd better be. And while he's at it he can stop wasting library funds posting crap on facebook.

akkakkman

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Or he posted from the library where he may have been getting cv's printed out

Will he not get the cv's dirty while helping out at the animal shelter the next day?
Maybe he'll post them in the morning, before going to collect the dole.
Would he not collect the dole in town though ? I don't understand why collecting the dole is distinct from going into town...Maybe that's why he's busy, because (s)he is doing two things in the ONE DAY ! Maybe he lives in the countryside? Which might make sense if there is an animal shelter nearby....Who is this person?

Timberrrrrrrr

Czarcasm wrote: »

Certainly reads that way.





Quite the leap in comparisons you're making there, equating people on social welfare with young unmarried mothers and their children who were forced into intolerable cruelty and ignored by society. The person that can afford an internet connection, let alone be posting nonsense on Facebook, is hardly that badly off.

Should they be ashamed that they have to claim social welfare payments?

No, but a bit of humility would be nice.

Who is to say he was posting from his own pc from home? Amazes me how swiftly the dole bashers group up and attack. Hope none of you or your family are ever unfortunate enough to end up unemployed because there will obviously be VERY little compassion shown.

Timberrrrrrrr

akkakkman wrote: »

Will he not get the cv's dirty while helping out at the animal shelter the next day?
Maybe he'll post them in the morning, before going to collect the dole.
Would he not collect the dole in town though ? I don't understand why collecting the dole is distinct from going into town...Maybe that's why he's busy, because (s)he is doing two things in the ONE DAY ! Maybe he lives in the countryside? Which might make sense if there is an animal shelter nearby....Who is this person?

Ask op it's his "acquaintance"

Kenny Logins

Corvus Maximus wrote: »

Went to Uni myself, but I'm dying to know what a 'collage' actually is.

Really? We used to make them in primary school

:pac:

Call Me Jimmy

Irishguy16 wrote: »

I just logged into my Facebook account and noticed an acquaintance of mine put up a status saying "Busy day tomorrow, have to get my dole and then go into town". This status really annoyed me a lot. Does this person have no shame? Is he trying to glorify the fact that he gets free money? I have no time whatsoever for people who refuse to work when there are jobs out there. How is he not embarrassed about being on the dole and why is he letting his entire friend list know that he is lazy? If that was me I would be mortified.I'm not trying to start an argument because I know that not everyone on the dole is lazy and people do have the potential to get somewhere in life. I am temped to write him a status, but I know that I will lose the head completely and offend him

Why are you tempted? And whatever answer you give, a why to that as well... and so on until there are no why's left and everything converges into a dot

Philo Beddoe

Irishguy16 wrote: »

I just logged into my Facebook account and noticed an acquaintance of mine put up a status saying "Busy day tomorrow, have to get my dole and then go into town". This status really annoyed me a lot. Does this person have no shame? Is he trying to glorify the fact that he gets free money? I have no time whatsoever for people who refuse to work when there are jobs out there. How is he not embarrassed about being on the dole and why is he letting his entire friend list know that he is lazy? If that was me I would be mortified.

Why should someone feel shame or embarrassment about being on the dole? I've been on the dole before and know people who are on it now. It wasn't because we were lazy, it was due to economic factors outside our control. I didn't feel any shame or embarrassment about it.

Call Me Jimmy

I apologise for my previous post I was a bit of a tosser a minute ago

Czarcasm

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Who is to say he was posting from his own pc from home?

Why would I care about where he was posting from? It's what he actually posted, plus the fact he had the time and the waste of resources to post it, that I would have an issue with.

Were I actually to give a single fcuk about this person, I wouldn't be long entertaining their muppetry and subsidising their sense of entitlement, not just financially, but also with my time.

Amazes me how swiftly the dole bashers group up and attack.

Never ceases to amaze me how swift people are to pass judgment upon someone whom they disagree with. I'm far from a basher of people claiming social welfare. Quite the opposite in fact, but what I have no time for is the minority of misguided wasters that perpetuate the social stigma and reflect badly on the majority of social welfare recipients who quietly go about their job seeking efforts while trying to maintain some shred of dignity.

Hope none of you or your family are ever unfortunate enough to end up unemployed because there will obviously be VERY little compassion shown.

Been there, done that, made a business out of selling the tee shirts. People generally have very little compassion for the minority of the most vocal wasters that contribute nothing to society, but expect society to continue to contribute to their lifestyle. That's really not how it works, and sometimes these people need to be reminded that society owes them nothing, and if they want something, they have to be willing to contribute to society first. Reminding them of that fact can indeed be quite a shock to their system, but sometimes you get the odd one that grows a pair and gets with the program.

Timberrrrrrrr

Czarcasm wrote: »

Why would I care about where he was posting from? It's what he actually posted, plus the fact he had the time and the waste of resources to post it, that I would have an issue with.

Were I actually to give a single fcuk about this person, I wouldn't be long entertaining their muppetry and subsidising their sense of entitlement, not just financially, but also with my time.

Lol

what the **** is that supposed to mean? How dare this person have 30 seconds to.spare to post an update on his FB page rabble rabble rabble

Never ceases to amaze me how swift people are to pass judgment upon someone whom they disagree with. I'm far from a basher of people claiming social welfare. Quite the opposite in fact, but what I have no time for is the minority of misguided wasters that perpetuate the social stigma and reflect badly on the majority of social welfare recipients who quietly go about their job seeking efforts while trying to maintain some shred of dignity.





Been there, done that, made a business out of selling the tee shirts. People generally have very little compassion for the minority of the most vocal wasters that contribute nothing to society, but expect society to continue to contribute to their lifestyle. That's really not how it works, and sometimes these people need to be reminded that society owes them nothing, and if they want something, they have to be willing to contribute to society first. Reminding them of that fact can indeed be quite a shock to their system, but sometimes you get the odd one that grows a pair and gets with the program.

And you in your all knowing super powers can tell this about a person simply because they mention on FB that they have to go to the dole? Your talents (whatever they may be) are truly wasted on here, you should have your own tv show like that Derrin Brown lad :rolleyes: