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Can of Baked beans - profound question

  • 18-09-2014 12:22am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,616 ✭✭✭


    If the protein in a can of baked beans is much less than 5% and the sugar added to a can is 5% then how can they market themselves as ''high in protein'' and ''low in sugar'' ?

    How does any of that make sense when the reality is their notable feature is being high in carbs instead ? A fact conveniently ignored ?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 109 ✭✭Rogaine2


    I'm sure there are parameters they meet to claim to be either high in protein or low in sugar.

    Eg.

    You may claim your product is high in protein if it is plus 4%.

    You can claim your product is low in sugar if it is less than 6%


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,646 ✭✭✭✭qo2cj1dsne8y4k


    They taste like vomit, who cares


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,133 ✭✭✭FloatingVoter


    The Wild West was won on baked beans. By men who couldn't read and thought protein was target practice. God Bless The Bean.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,571 ✭✭✭0byme75341jo28


    They taste like vomit, who cares

    Beans ruin every dinner. That disgusting tomato sauce just gets everywhere :(


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    Beans ruin every dinner.

    True. But they add to a decent breakfast.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,616 ✭✭✭masculinist


    Lapin wrote: »
    True. But they add to a decent breakfast.

    but are they are lying to you? They claim to be high in protein and low in sugar but the sugar content actually exceeds the protein content. Mathematical logic not even once.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 109 ✭✭Rogaine2


    but are they are lying to you? They claim to be high in protein and low in sugar but the sugar content actually exceeds the protein content. Mathematical logic not even once.

    Step out of your maths lecture and stroll into a Marketing lecture. You'll learn a few things.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    Lets ask the experts OP. The knowledgeable ones.

    After Hours wouldn't be the same without their input.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 109 ✭✭Rogaine2


    but are they are lying to you? They claim to be high in protein and low in sugar but the sugar content actually exceeds the protein content. Mathematical logic not even once.

    They do not claim that the percentage of protein exceeds the percentage of sugar.

    Even you can appreciate that?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    but are they are lying to you? They claim to be high in protein and low in sugar but the sugar content actually exceeds the protein content. Mathematical logic not even once.

    Bah. If I want to know about protein 'content' I'll read the side of a corn flakes box or that article I put up a couple of posts back.

    But when it comes to breakfast, all I care about are beans, toast, butter, mushrooms, and various fashions of a dead pig.

    Oh, and tae. Plenty of tae.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,571 ✭✭✭0byme75341jo28


    You know good breakfast Lapin :cool:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,616 ✭✭✭masculinist


    Rogaine2 wrote: »
    They do not claim that the percentage of protein exceeds the percentage of sugar.

    Even you can appreciate that?

    Yes but a higher number is called low and a lower number is called high.

    This is the Alice in Wonderland marketing approach of "A word means what I want it to mean, nothing more, nothing less."


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    Vangelis used to play Chariots Of Fire with a lit cigarette on top the piano.

    Stick that in your pipe and smoke it OP.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,616 ✭✭✭masculinist


    Lapin wrote: »
    Bah. If I want to know about protein 'content' I'll read the side of a corn flakes box or that article I put up a couple of posts back.

    But when it comes to breakfast, all I care about are beans, toast, butter, mushrooms, and various fashions of a dead pig.

    Oh, and tae. Plenty of tae.

    Im not condemning beans ... God forbid ... I'm just pointing out the brazen lie staring me straight in the face as I heat up my tin of beans ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,292 ✭✭✭Pwindedd


    RDA sugar 30gms per day, RDA protein 50gms per day (not sure if you're male female so I've averaged)

    For every 100gms of beans you are getting almost twice as much sugar than protein that your body needs.

    Eat them, don't eat them - the choice is yours, do you like beans?

    Tin of Tuna is 25% protein no sugar but tastes not like beans at all.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    Im not condemning beans ... God forbid ... I'm just pointing out the brazen lie staring me straight in the face as I heat up my tin of beans ;)

    Jesus, don't forget to take them out of the tin first. :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,147 ✭✭✭PizzamanIRL


    Is this a Junior Cert Maths question?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,760 ✭✭✭Effects


    Beans ruin every dinner. That disgusting tomato sauce just gets everywhere :(

    Maybe you could try not adding them to every dinner you eat to try and solve your problem.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,292 ✭✭✭Pwindedd


    Is this a Junior Cert Maths question?

    Bonus points for average methane production expressed as a % of fart "airtime"


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    Is this a Junior Cert Maths question?

    Might as well make this worth our while.

    There are 11 spoonfulls of sugar in a can of cider.
    Pwindedd wrote: »
    RDA sugar 30gms per day.

    How many cans of cider do I need to drink each day to meet my recommended daily allowance of sugar ?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,571 ✭✭✭0byme75341jo28


    Lapin wrote: »
    How many cans of cider do I need to drink each day to meet my recommended daily allowance of sugar ?

    One and a third :pac:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    You know good breakfast Lapin :cool:

    Especially with one of these bad boys on the plate Prince. :cool:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 809 ✭✭✭Ditch


    Stop! Stop! Stop!

    What about bringing white bread into the equation?

    I can only offer to this discussion that, while working on a construction site ~ flat bones of the back end broke ~ I invented the " Bread and Beans Diet "

    Pan of the cheap bread the local garage sold. Same tin of beans.

    Open tin with knife. Dig folded slice of bread into beans. Devour!

    Believe me; It actually became quite the treat! (Maybe it was all that sugar?) But, I survived a week or two on that diet. And I was as fit and mentally sharp as any man I worked with.

    Cheap, crappy bread and a tin of baked beans. Christ, yeah! I'd pay for that, right now! Go to bed with a bloated belly and the Dogs licking my grin! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Call Me Jimmy


    On a whim we got sugar puffs there, first spoonful and my childhood swelled into my body momentarily... but that's beside the point.

    Whoever their marketers are should be getting paid handsomely. For one, they are called SUGAR puffs. Now the box, the box made me feel healthy just looking at it (no dirty jokes plz srs bzness). Not only does it say things like high in fibre and high in iron, each thing it is high in gets its own icon in a very healthy looking green with some simplified representation of a plant. Not only that but they FORTIFY these sugar... puffs with even more healthy stuff. Fortify. Feels like a nice solid word, by extension I will be strong if eat it.

    So I eat the ****ers.

    What the **** am I typing these days at all


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,080 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    I've tasted a few beans in my day.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,150 ✭✭✭kumate_champ07


    cubes of salami go great in beans


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,616 ✭✭✭masculinist


    On a whim we got sugar puffs there, first spoonful and my childhood swelled into my body momentarily... but that's beside the point.

    Whoever their marketers are should be getting paid handsomely. For one, they are called SUGAR puffs. Now the box, the box made me feel healthy just looking at it (no dirty jokes plz srs bzness). Not only does it say things like high in fibre and high in iron, each thing it is high in gets its own icon in a very healthy looking green with some simplified representation of a plant. Not only that but they FORTIFY these sugar... puffs with even more healthy stuff. Fortify. Feels like a nice solid word, by extension I will be strong if eat it.

    So I eat the ****ers.

    What the **** am I typing these days at all

    They are cute hoors for sure. Cereals have to be fortified because the Sawdust Sweepings they are made from don't have any nutritional value otherwise. For the same reason that sawdust is tasteless they always have sugar and salt added too. Thats my strong belief. It doesnt stop me eating but thats why they say sugar is as addictive as many hard drugs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    I've tasted a few beans in my day.
    Broads?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Call Me Jimmy


    Yea I was thinking marketers are like those dodgy wall street chaps as in their real skill or profession is finding the loopholes and then reallllly ridin' em hard


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 642 ✭✭✭Bafucin


    If the protein in a can of baked beans is much less than 5% and the sugar added to a can is 5% then how can they market themselves as ''high in protein'' and ''low in sugar'' ?

    How does any of that make sense when the reality is their notable feature is being high in carbs instead ? A fact conveniently ignored ?


    This post does not match your username in character Sir.

    Yes generally food in tins is not healthy. Meh...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 642 ✭✭✭Bafucin


    Im not condemning beans ... God forbid ... I'm just pointing out the brazen lie staring me straight in the face as I heat up my tin of beans ;)
    Enjoy!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,113 ✭✭✭shruikan2553


    There could be 50% sugar in them and 10% protein but if most foods have 80% sugar and 1% protein then low sugar and high protein makes sense. A food being high in X or low in Y holds true on its own and any other percentages mean **** all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,133 ✭✭✭FloatingVoter


    Bafucin wrote: »
    Yes generally food in tins is not healthy. Meh...

    Agreed, I prefer to shoot the wild runner beans whilst on safari in Africa.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,616 ✭✭✭masculinist


    Bafucin wrote: »
    This post does not match your username in character Sir.

    Yes generally food in tins is not healthy. Meh...

    you what


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Call Me Jimmy


    , mate?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,664 ✭✭✭policarp


    Beans means Heinz. . .

    If you don't like beans,
    You don't like flatulence. . .

    So have cabbage instead. . .:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,616 ✭✭✭masculinist


    policarp wrote: »
    Beans means Heinz. . .

    Batchelors Beanz help with the balance of payments since they are canned here. This fact can help take my mind off the sugar content


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,521 ✭✭✭ardle1


    This is D Craíc......
    A can of beans contains..:51% Beans.. 34% Tomatoes.. and the rest is a combination of:..Water,Sugar,Modified Cornflour,Spirit Vinegar,Salt, Spice Extracts and Herb Extract...
    Now if a Bean contains 4.7% Protein!? well then there is more Protein in a can of Beans than there is sugar.... Thank You! Hope this helps.

    Just found this...http://www.aww.com.au/diet-health/diet-and-nutrition/2008/8/10-things-you-did-not-know-about-baked-beans/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,694 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    Human beans?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,133 ✭✭✭FloatingVoter


    I haven't had a **** today. This is 'cos I took an Arret yesterday due to a tummy bug. So later on I'll be having beans on toast. I expect a mountainy big brown ****. I felt the need to share.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 809 ✭✭✭Ditch


    I felt the need to share.

    What; That ye'll be dropping off a reVolting Floater? :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,059 ✭✭✭WilyCoyote


    ardle1 wrote: »
    This is D Craíc......
    A can of beans contains..:51% Beans.. 34% Tomatoes.. and the rest is a combination of:..Water,Sugar,Modified Cornflour,Spirit Vinegar,Salt, Spice Extracts and Herb Extract...
    Now if a Bean contains 4.7% Protein!? well then there is more Protein in a can of Beans than there is sugar.... Thank You! Hope this helps.

    Just found this...http://www.aww.com.au/diet-health/diet-and-nutrition/2008/8/10-things-you-did-not-know-about-baked-beans/

    One omitted important point. Why are there 239 beans in a can of beans?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,133 ✭✭✭FloatingVoter


    Ditch wrote: »
    What; That ye'll be dropping off a reVolting Floater? :eek:

    Look out for that username on a pirate site near you. Thanks.:cool:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,616 ✭✭✭masculinist


    ardle1 wrote: »
    Now if a Bean contains 4.7% Protein!? well then there is more Protein in a can of Beans than there is sugar


    I have 2 cans of Baked Beans in Tomato sauce here. One is Heinz and the other is Batchelors
    When you look at the ingredients to where it says : Carbs: of which sugars:

    Heinz has : Sugars 5g per 100g or 5% which compares to protein of 4.7%
    Batchelors has 4.9 g per 100g or 4.9% which compares to protein of 4%

    So the sugars are higher than the proteins in both cases.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,820 ✭✭✭FanadMan


    Baked beans........and haricot beans in general should be banned. Just the thought of the texture of them is enough to make me puke. And the sauce is a design of Satan himself. How the hell is that tomato sauce?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,521 ✭✭✭ardle1


    ardle1 wrote: »
    This is D Craíc......
    A can of beans contains..:51% Beans.. 34% Tomatoes.. and the rest is a combination of:..Water,Sugar,Modified Cornflour,Spirit Vinegar,Salt, Spice Extracts and Herb Extract...
    Now if a Bean contains 4.7% Protein!? well then there is more Protein in a can of Beans than there is sugar.... Thank You! Hope this helps.

    Just found this...http://www.aww.com.au/diet-health/diet-and-nutrition/2008/8/10-things-you-did-not-know-about-baked-beans/
    I have 2 cans of Baked Beans in Tomato sauce here. One is Heinz and the other is Batchelors
    When you look at the ingredients to where it says : Carbs: of which sugars:

    Heinz has : Sugars 5g per 100g or 5% which compares to protein of 4.7%
    Batchelors has 4.9 g per 100g or 4.9% which compares to protein of 4%

    So the sugars are higher than the proteins in both cases.

    No No... that is what each can contains per 100g of Beans........
    at the same time each bean contains protein,...
    Let me explain in greater detail zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,616 ✭✭✭masculinist


    ardle1 wrote: »
    No No... that is what each can contains per 100g of Beans........
    at the same time each bean contains protein,...
    Let me explain in greater detail zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    But the thread is not about individual beans. That would be as absurd as promoting the Iron content of the can itself :D ... [Beans high in Iron because of the can in small print :D ]

    The figures I quoted were read directly off 2 cans ...


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,280 ✭✭✭Davarus Walrus


    Baked beans are the food of choice for students and bedsit dwellers. Cheap beans in a truly obnoxious gloopy orange 'sauce' have no place in the diet of any adult who has any pride in their life.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,219 ✭✭✭✭Grandeeod


    Just opened a tin of Heinz beans with sausages.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,253 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    If the protein in a can of baked beans is much less than 5% and the sugar added to a can is 5% then how can they market themselves as ''high in protein'' and ''low in sugar'' ?

    How does any of that make sense when the reality is their notable feature is being high in carbs instead ? A fact conveniently ignored ?

    Sigh.

    You dont compare sugar content with protein content, they are completely separate.

    A yogurt that has 1g of fish in it is high in fish compared to normal yogurts.
    Likewise a glass of orange that only has 1g of orange in it is low in orange.

    There is no relation between protein and sugar, you are inventing one...badly.
    and failing.
    you should feel bad.


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