Leinster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread V

.ak

Ha, Rolls to get a cap!

Why isn't Ryan starting though? I like Josh but he isn't ready for this sort of game imo.

total former

McCarthy and Fitzgerald absent, presumably 24/25th men for Sunday.

Great to see Ruddock back.

Is Royce Burke-Flynn contracted?

.ak

total former wrote: »

McCarthy and Fitzgerald absent, presumably 24/25th men for Sunday.

Great to see Ruddock back.

Is Royce Burke-Flynn contracted?

Not sure. But he should be, just for his name alone - and the fact he's a tighthead with a six pack, which I believe breaks the laws of physics.

total former

Strong enough Ospreys team too. Could be a decent match. 6-2 split on the bench for them, btw.

15 Dan Evans
14 Tom Grabham
13 Jonathan Spratt
12 Josh Matavesi
11 Hanno Dirksen
10 Sam Davies
9 Martin Roberts
1 Ryan Bevington
2 Scott Otten
3 Dmitri Arhip
4 Tevita Cavubati
5 Tyler Ardron (Capt)
6 Joe Bearman
7 James King
8 Dan Baker

REPLACEMENTS
16 Matthew Dwyer
17 Marc Thomas
18 Daniel Suter
19 Rhodri Hughes
20 Olly Cracknell
21 Morgan Allen
22 Tom Habberfield
23 Richard Fussell

Serious back-row there, even in the absence of Tipuric and Lydiate.

ssaye2

Any points will be good away to them.
Always tough in Ospreys any time of the year.

total former

total former wrote: »

McCarthy and Fitzgerald absent, presumably 24/25th men for Sunday.

Great to see Ruddock back.

Is Royce Burke-Flynn contracted?

I think Fitzgerald is going to be on the bench for Ireland this Sunday. There has been just enough released to the media so that it won't be a complete surprised.

.ak

LBP is the best we can hope for. I'd be happy with a LBP if we had picked up 4/5 in the Dragons game... Now I don't think we can even do anything with the LBP. We'll literally need to win the rest of our games, and with Scarlets and Ulster awa it's a big ask.

.ak

Deleted User wrote: »

I think Fitzgerald is going to be on the bench for Ireland this Sunday. There has been just enough released to the media so that it won't be a complete surprised.

Like?

I'd be delighted but can't see it happening, unless someone pulls up.

ionadnapokot

Royce Burke-Flynn! Sounds like a character out of a R'OCK book
Any use?

total former

.ak wrote: »

LBP is the best we can hope for. I'd be happy with a LBP if we had picked up 4/5 in the Dragons game... Now I don't think we can even do anything with the LBP. We'll literally need to win the rest of our games, and with Scarlets and Ulster awa it's a big ask.

Yeah, I think we have a massive problem in:

4. Tom Denton
5. Kane Douglas
6. Rhys Ruddock
7. Josh Van Der Flier
8. Jack Conan

vs.

4 Tevita Cavubati
5 Tyler Ardron
6 Joe Bearman
7 James King
8 Dan Baker

We could find ourselves on the back foot a fair bit.

.ak

ionadnapokot wrote: »

Royce Burke-Flynn! Sounds like a character out of a R'OCK book
Any use?

You have no idea...

Anyway yeah, scrummaging is a bit of mystery to me, but anytime I've seen him play for Clontarf or the A's he's a very, very dynamic player. Was a typical TH build a couple of seasons ago but now seems to be 100% beef. The guy is literally a tighthead with abs, it's scary. Great with ball in hand and will look to go through players at any opportunity. Not sure if this sort of level was ever on his agenda but he's been doing pretty well for the A side so why not.

ssaye2

Would probably be the win of the season and would be a huge 8 pointer if we pulled off a historic win there.


Everything would have to click.

.ak

total former wrote: »

Yeah, I think we have a massive problem in:

4. Tom Denton
5. Kane Douglas
6. Rhys Ruddock
7. Josh Van Der Flier
8. Jack Conan

vs.

4 Tevita Cavubati
5 Tyler Ardron
6 Joe Bearman
7 James King
8 Dan Baker

We could find ourselves on the back foot a fair bit.

Yeah, I'm really surprised we didn't opt to have Ryan starting. I expect VdF is more of a traditional 7 but he is still quite small and Ryan can be quite explosive in terms of clear outs when he wants.

ionadnapokot

.ak wrote: »

You have no idea...

Anyway yeah, scrummaging is a bit of mystery to me, but anytime I've seen him play for Clontarf or the A's he's a very, very dynamic player. Was a typical TH build a couple of seasons ago but now seems to be 100% beef. The guy is literally a tighthead with abs, it's scary. Great with ball in hand and will look to go through players at any opportunity. Not sure if this sort of level was ever on his agenda but he's been doing pretty well for the A side so why not.

CIARAN_BOYLE

ionadnapokot wrote: »

Royce Burke-Flynn! Sounds like a character out of a R'OCK book
Any use?

Not bad as depth, he plays AIL and is not contracted with Leinster but comes in when called for Leinster or Leinster A. He could start in prod2 or championship or get a squad place as third or fourth choice in 20 ish teams in the top divisions in the northern hemisphere.

Leinster have him as 5th choice despite not needing to give him a contract

matthew8

Decent enough Leinster team definitely think they can win.

S12b

Doesn't say much for that South African lad ye brought in or Hagan that an AIL player gets picked ahead of them.....

ssaye2

S12b wrote: »

Doesn't say much for that South African lad ye brought in or Hagan that an AIL player gets picked ahead of them.....

SA Lad was in for 8-10 weeks Left I hear

Hagan Same

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/pro12/leinster-sign-jamie-hagan-on-three-month-loan-deal-ahead-of-italy-trip-1.2004348

CIARAN_BOYLE

S12b wrote: »

Doesn't say much for that South African lad ye brought in or Hagan that an AIL player gets picked ahead of them.....

Hagan is a LH now and the SA guy has gone back to south africa

dregin

ionadnapokot wrote: »

Royce Burke-Flynn! Sounds like a character out of a R'OCK book
Any use?

Didn't his parents name all their kids after their cars? His brother's probably called Lada.

S12b

S12b wrote: »

Doesn't say much for that South African lad ye brought in or Hagan that an AIL player gets picked ahead of them.....

They won't be here in 5 months, Burke Flynn & Dooley might well be needed next season if we're sending 2 front rows to the World Cup and then 6Nations!

That's the 'problem' with developing a squad that can play to that standard.

ssaye2

They have both left Leinster I think

Sangre

ssaye2 wrote: »

http://www.leinsterrugby.ie/news/13287#.VO8KtOE9ycs
LEINSTER:

15. Zane Kirchner
14. Fergus McFadden
13. Ben Te'o
12. Gordon D'Arcy
11. Dave Kearney
10. Jimmy Gopperth
9. Isaac Boss CAPTAIN
1. Michael Bent
2. Richardt Strauss
3. Tadhg Furlong
4. Tom Denton
5. Kane Douglas
6. Rhys Ruddock
7. Josh Van Der Flier
8. Jack Conan

16. Aaron Dundon
17. Peter Dooley
18. Royce Burke-Flynn
19. Ben Marshall
20. Dominic Ryan
21. Luke McGrath
22. Noel Reid
23. Darragh Fanning

Referee: John Lacey (IRFU, 42nd competition game)
Assistant Referees: Craig Evans, Chris Williams (both WRU)
Citing Commissioner: Gwyn Bowden (WRU)
TMO: Derek Bevan (WRU)

3 Michaels players in that 23 (all on bench of course) - unheard of. Pity Marsh isn't also on the bench.

TommyOM

dregin wrote: »

Didn't his parents name all their kids after their cars? His brother's probably called Lada.

His brother is called Aston. His sister is called Porsche.

ssaye2

matthew8 wrote: »

Decent enough Leinster team definitely think they can win.

We have not won in the league there since 09

Would love it

funtime93

dregin wrote: »

Didn't his parents name all their kids after their cars? His brother's probably called Lada.

Brother called Aston and sister called Mercedes afaik

CatFromHue

TommyOM wrote: »

His brother is called Aston. His sister is called Porsche.

Ha I love it.

I'm going to name my kids

Curry
Curry Cheese
Coleslaw
Garlic Cheese

jacothelad

funtime93 wrote: »

Brother called Aston and sister called Mercedes afaik

Youngest brother is called Morris minor.....:D

vienne86

Team doesn't look too bad. We'll need Douglas to put in a good showing. Bench has a lot of new names! I wouldn't be too optimistic of a win.

Neil3030

Leavy injured?

Neil3030

#We all dream of a team of Royce Burke Flynns
#a team of Royce Burke Flynns
#a team of Royce Burke Flynns

CatFromHue

Bearman, Baker, and King v Ruddock (just back from injury), Vder Flier (still just a kid), and Conan...Yikes!

Buer

CatFromHue wrote: »

Ha I love it.

I'm going to name my kids

Curry
Curry Cheese
Coleslaw
Garlic Cheese

No doubt as to who the least favourite in the family is.

Coleslaw is gonna have the worst middle child syndrome ever.

SaveOurLyric

Neil3030 wrote: »

#a team of Royce Burke Flynns

Fantastic name all right.

Still in the halpenny place though compare to the guy who competed for us at the winter olympics - Clifton Hugh Lancelot de Verdon Wrottesley.
True story. What a name.
Excuse the OT. But you dont come across great names like that too often.

vienne86

CatFromHue wrote: »

Bearman, Baker, and King v Ruddock (just back from injury), Vder Flier (still just a kid), and Conan...Yikes!

Big worry all right. I'm happy with the front row, and we have a great back line, but our back row is thin. And we don't have much fire power on the bench.

molloyjh

.ak wrote: »

LBP is the best we can hope for. I'd be happy with a LBP if we had picked up 4/5 in the Dragons game... Now I don't think we can even do anything with the LBP. We'll literally need to win the rest of our games, and with Scarlets and Ulster awa it's a big ask.

Yeah I'm kind of worried now. Scarlets have been going well at home having drawn 2 but lost none there all season. And we'll be fielding a similar team to this one. Ulster too will be tough given that they seem to be getting over their injury crisis. It's not inconceivable that we could lose another 3, especially given our form on the road. I'd figured on a draw tomorrow, but looking at those squads I'm not so sure any more.

dub_skav

On the backrow. Ruddock is one of the best 6s in Ireland, Conan has a huge future ahead of him and was recently being discussed as a bolter for World Cup squad. VdF has done brilliantly in his limited time and looks unphased by the step up.

Sure, they're not proven like our first choice unit, but I am looking forward to seeing what the young guys can do, rather than being worried about what they can't.

irishbucsfan

In terms of talent the young guys don't worry me at all. I'm far more worried about whether they'll be able to match the Ospreys physically. I've no worries about Ruddock beyond him being rusty, the other two are very raw however.

I don't think I'll get to watch the game live as I'll be in Ashbourne which is a real shame. Scheduling this game during a 6 Nationss weekend is utterly stupid and underlines perfectly how this league continues to shoot itself in the foot repeatedly. Of course I'll be recording it and watching it either that night or the next morning depending on the score in Ashbourne!

blackdog1

Is jennings injured or what?

Sanjuro

No Fitzgerald. Possible he could be the 23rd man for Sunday?

.ak

dregin wrote: »

Didn't his parents name all their kids after their cars? His brother's probably called Lada.

Yep...

Anyway, questionable naming aside, he's a good player, went to SA to learn some tricks afaik and plays very much in the style of a SA prop - mobile, good hands, likes to hurt people with ball in hand.

One thing I've noticed is with McGrath and now Rolls it's great to see the AIL players being looked at as viable options. The conditioning at that level now adays isn't a million miles away and, to be honest, I would've liked to have seen this happen before signing someone like the SA prop we got on loan a few months ago.

blackdog1

.ak wrote: »

Yep...

Anyway, questionable naming aside, he's a good player, went to SA to learn some tricks afaik and plays very much in the style of a SA prop - mobile, good hands, likes to hurt people with ball in hand.

One thing I've noticed is with McGrath and now Rolls it's great to see the AIL players being looked at as viable options. The conditioning at that level now adays isn't a million miles away and, to be honest, I would've liked to have seen this happen before signing someone like the SA prop we got on loan a few months ago.

That South African prop looked terrible. Say what you will about the ail but the props in it can scrummage. Moore didn't have it all his way when playing for clontarf. It's a great learning place for young props.

.ak

blackdog1 wrote: »

Is jennings injured or what?

Picked up a knock to the shoulder last week so I assume he's not 100%

funtime93

blackdog1 wrote: »

That South African prop looked terrible. Say what you will about the ail but the props in it can scrummage. Moore didn't have it all his way when playing for clontarf. It's a great learning place for young props.

Moore played for lansdowne no?

blackdog1

funtime93 wrote: »

Moore played for lansdowne no?

Of course he did was thinking of Royce Burke...

total former

Sanjuro wrote: »

No Fitzgerald. Possible he could be the 23rd man for Sunday?

He's been 24th man for both matches so far, reckon he'll be doing that again this weekend. McCarthy probably likewise.

stephen_n

.ak wrote: »

Ha, Rolls to get a cap!

Why isn't Ryan starting though? I like Josh but he isn't ready for this sort of game imo.

probably cause he hasn't been training with the squad this week.

dregin

.ak wrote: »

Yep...

Anyway, questionable naming aside, he's a good player, went to SA to learn some tricks afaik and plays very much in the style of a SA prop - mobile, good hands, likes to hurt people with ball in hand.

One thing I've noticed is with McGrath and now Rolls it's great to see the AIL players being looked at as viable options. The conditioning at that level now adays isn't a million miles away and, to be honest, I would've liked to have seen this happen before signing someone like the SA prop we got on loan a few months ago.

Any chance to unleash your man crush

.ak

.ak wrote: »

Like?

I'd be delighted but can't see it happening, unless someone pulls up.

There was an article where Luke said he felt he was ready for international duty. In that article and specifically another one it said that Joe had asked Matt to give Luke a run on the wing so he could have a look at him there.

Joe was also quoted indirectly as having said to Luke that he thought he was close to ready for a return and sometimes little things like this give hint to a potential outcome.

A few pundits have been throwing his name into the ring also in recent weeks for the inevitable "I told you so" if he is selected.

Just reckon there is enough there that I wouldn't be surprised if he made it into the 23 this week.

.ak

dregin wrote: »

Any chance to unleash your man crush

Absolutely. #justiceformcgrath