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Charliebull

simx wrote: »

and you wouldnt believe me if i told you if you went about 20 miles north of ballyragget heading carlow/kk border in a certain area youd see fields of rushes/forestry etc. .... some very good land in all the areas you have mentioned, them lads think hardship is fields burning up due to lack of rain ha

Been that country too,

The rushes are handy for hiding them October calves that somehow become December calves;)

simx

Charliebull wrote: »

Been that country too,

The rushes are handy for hiding them October calves that somehow become December calves;)

sure we didnt see them till they got big and hardy

Charliebull

simx wrote: »

sure we didnt see them till they got big and hardy

Came across him topping,

Reggie.

Charliebull wrote: »

Came across him topping,

Don't joke about that. That happened once around here and wasn't pretty :eek:

Kovu

Reggie. wrote: »

Don't joke about that. That happened once around here and wasn't pretty :eek:

Ah Reggie. FFS:(

Reggie.

.Kovu. wrote: »

Ah Reggie. FFS:(

A elderly neighbour and a 8 foot side mounted topper......

Kovu

Reggie. wrote: »

A elderly neighbour and a 8 foot side mounted topper......

Stopitstopitstopitstopitstopit.

darragh_haven

Username John wrote: »

Christ, farm sold recently down here and went for around 15k / acre :eek:

Farm land near me went in 3 lots at 15k an acre just recently. Nothing around here that is in grass will go for under 11k an acre. 120 acres fully set up farm going for sale near by soon. Some interest in it. The guy selling it upped sticks and went to the Kilkenny/Wexford border about 5 years ago.

keep going

darragh_haven wrote: »

Farm land near me went in 3 lots at 15k an acre just recently. Nothing around here that is in grass will go for under 11k an acre. 120 acres fully set up farm going for sale near by soon. Some interest in it. The guy selling it upped sticks and went to the Kilkenny/Wexford border about 5 years ago.

Alot of talk abou it but will he get his 2 million that he is looking for it, as they say talk is cheap

stretch film

keep going wrote: »

Alot of talk abou it but will he get his 2 million that he is looking for it, as they say talk is cheap

High profile gentleman down this end. Was it not always up for sale . Is there an auction due.

Finnt

rangler1 wrote: »

Wait and see, a great farm sold beside me for less than €7000 that would've made ten two years ago, leased to one of the best farmers in the area for the last twelve years, a fine house, sheds, roadway up through the middle of it, fenced and paddocked for sheep and cattle, just ready to step into 200 ac
Have a look
http://www.murtaghbros.ie/detail.asp?ID=6534

What's bare land worth after seeing that

I see it's sold now, what did it make?

darragh_haven

keep going wrote: »

Alot of talk abou it but will he get his 2 million that he is looking for it, as they say talk is cheap

Jeez. I don't think it'd make 2. But, lets just say I won't throwing the hand up. I have better uses for the millions sitting in my bank account. .......

keep going

darragh_haven wrote: »

Jeez. I don't think it'd make 2. But, lets just say I won't throwing the hand up. I have better uses for the millions sitting in my bank account. .......

Where was the 15k an acre

rangler1

Finnt wrote: »

I see it's sold now, what did it make?

The reserve was €7000/ac and it didn't make it

darragh_haven

keep going wrote: »

Where was the 15k an acre

PM

Finnt

rangler1 wrote: »

The reserve was €7000/ac and it didn't make it

€1.8m in or around, if a lad had money would be fairly good value.

rangler1

Finnt wrote: »

€1.8m in or around, if a lad had money would be fairly good value.

50 acres was sold separate,
I think land will drop in price, confidence going out of farming bigtime,
The only young generation farming around here are dairy farmers....how long will they last now

darragh_haven

rangler1 wrote: »

50 acres was sold separate,
I think land will drop in price, confidence going out of farming bigtime,
The only young generation farming around here are dairy farmers....how long will they last now

There is still lots of confidence in dairying down my part of the country. You won't grazing land for under €150 an acre, altho there is a very high concentration of dairy farming in west cork. Most rental land is exceeding €200 and acre and selling in excess of €10,000/acre

farmersfriend

Charliebull wrote: »

on my travels i have passed a super farm , house and extensive sheds just outside ballycolla on the way to durrow, fantastic looking set up, often wondered what it would be worth, us westies can only but dream

Know where u are talking about, that's a suckler farm,

whelan2

rangler1 wrote: »

50 acres was sold separate,
I think land will drop in price, confidence going out of farming bigtime,
The only young generation farming around here are dairy farmers....how long will they last now

same here, i am the youngest in my area, dont know anyone from around here that went to ag college recently.

rangler1

darragh_haven wrote: »

There is still lots of confidence in dairying down my part of the country. You won't grazing land for under €150 an acre, altho there is a very high concentration of dairy farming in west cork. Most rental land is exceeding €200 and acre and selling in excess of €10,000/acre

I'm talking on dairying going forward, had there been a quota on beef for the last 30 yrsm there'd be confidence in beef now too

awaywithyou

rumour has it that a bit of land(12 acres) sold, in the last few wks about 2 miles from me, for the grand total of 20,500/acre...

Reggie.

awaywithyou wrote: »

rumour has it that a bit of land(12 acres) sold, in the last few wks about 2 miles from me, for the grand total of 20,500/acre...

Value there

frazzledhome

rangler1 wrote: »

50 acres was sold separate,
I think land will drop in price, confidence going out of farming bigtime,
The only young generation farming around here are dairy farmers....how long will they last now

Rangler as a poster whom I admire for holding your ground and speaking plainly, I'm disappointed in that negative post.

As an industry leader you should be putting yourself forward as a mentor and champion of all sectors. Dairy will be fine, structured, funded and organised completely differently to all other sectors. This I believe is one of our strengths along with positivity and knowledge transfer.
Y
Please don't start another bash dairy or Rangler roll:)

Suckler

rangler1 wrote: »

I think land will drop in price, confidence going out of farming bigtime,
The only young generation farming around here are dairy farmers....how long will they last now

Is the change in land price a 'drop' or is it a market correction though.

One of the biggest, if not the biggest, barriers to farming is the cost of land. If it drops to a level where (taking the beef in crisis thread as example) a sustainable return can be made on investment then surely that's a good thing for farming.

rangler1

frazzledhome wrote: »

Rangler as a poster whom I admire for holding your ground and speaking plainly, I'm disappointed in that negative post.

As an industry leader you should be putting yourself forward as a mentor and champion of all sectors. Dairy will be fine, structured, funded and organised completely differently to all other sectors. This I believe is one of our strengths along with positivity and knowledge transfer.
Y
Please don't start another bash dairy or Rangler roll:)

Are we not being blamed for positivity on Friesian bulls two years ago, (which was untrue)....have to be realistic, you asked me a few posts back, what colour is the sky in my area, when you thought I wasn't being real.
14 acre sold beside me for €84000, as you say land is good here
huge increase in dairying around here, not in anticipation but in desperation
Looking at a business at the moment that'll give me 5%, no risk,
Have money invested that's doing over that, low risk.
Why would any one put money in land at 10000/ac

Just after getting the SUNDAY TIMES, you should get one

rangler1

Suckler wrote: »

Is the change in land price a 'drop' or is it a market correction though.

One of the biggest, if not the biggest, barriers to farming is the cost of land. If it drops to a level where (taking the beef in crisis thread as example) a sustainable return can be made on investment then surely that's a good thing for farming.

Agreed (although I'm talking against myself here)
Farmers are going to have to upscale and get to a sustainable scale.
the ones that want to stay at it.

frazzledhome

rangler1 wrote: »

Are we not being blamed for positivity on Friesian bulls two years ago, (which was untrue)....have to be realistic, you asked me a few posts back, what colour is the sky in my area, when you thought I wasn't being real.
14 acre sold beside me for €84000, as you say land is good here
huge increase in dairying around here, not in anticipation but in desperation
Looking at a business at the moment that'll give me 5%, no risk,
Have money invested that's doing over that, low risk.
Why would any one put money in land at 10000/ac

Just after getting the SUNDAY TIMES, you should get one

Dairy will give you that return and some at 30c/litre paying 200 an acre for rent.

I'll get it later, what am I missing? Your area has great land and much bigger farms. Here is like West Cork smaller holdings with everyone in competition.

There'll be more moving from this area to yours if land price stays the way it is, as your no doubt aware some moving alread

darragh_haven

rangler1 wrote: »

I'm talking on dairying going forward, had there been a quota on beef for the last 30 yrsm there'd be confidence in beef now too

I should have specifically said "confidence into the future". Most are basing their average milk price at 29 or 30 cent per litre and are still happy to consolodate or expande.

rangler1

frazzledhome wrote: »

Dairy will give you that return and some at 30c/litre paying 200 an acre for rent.

I'll get it later, what am I missing? Your area has great land and much bigger farms. Here is like West Cork smaller holdings with everyone in competition.

There'll be more moving from this area to yours if land price stays the way it is, as your no doubt aware some moving alread

Tom Clintons view on the future and a few others as well

freedominacup

rangler1 wrote: »

Tom Clintons view on the future and a few others as well

Not being funny but why wasn't that article in the journal? I haven't read it but seeing as it's the times there wouldn't be too many punches pulled.

Muckit

Reggie. wrote: »

A elderly neighbour and a 8 foot side mounted topper......

The calf sounds to have been shagged anyway

Reggie.

Muckit wrote: »

The calf sounds to have been shagged anyway

Not to get out of the way ya mean

keep going

rangler1 wrote: »

Tom Clintons view on the future and a few others as well

Just read that and I thought it was a poorly constructed article.dont see toms farms on the paper for sale but yes there is potential for people to lose money.the general view down our way is quotas going is not going to make that much difference to things because of land availability around the parlour.in our coop there is just 2 new entrants at the the minute.

frazzledhome

@lacticaltd: $8+ payout biggest winners.will be this seasons lossers.true all grass system reins supreme

This tweet is from Stu Hopkins, NZ most profitable dairy farmer per ha. OAD, SR 3.6, 363 kgms/cow.

His tweet is a response to the fact that he was ridiculed for not building a cow home like many if his cohorts

frazzledhome

Read the article, thought it was fine with nothing new to report. Main warning was re over borrowing.

Usual stuff about the small amount traded globally and how a small under/over shoot can influence price. Topical page filler attempting to compare to property bubble where credit was what was being sold not houses.

The Sunday Times wouldn't be long clearing an acre of timber, some bulk reading for a week

rangler1

frazzledhome wrote: »

Read the article, thought it was fine with nothing new to report. Main warning was re over borrowing.

Usual stuff about the small amount traded globally and how a small under/over shoot can influence price. Topical page filler attempting to compare to property bubble where credit was what was being sold not houses.

The Sunday Times wouldn't be long clearing an acre of timber, some bulk reading for a week

Some farmers see what they want to see, me warning our co exec about feeding bull beef for the last 12 mths, is a good example

frazzledhome

rangler1 wrote: »

Some farmers see what they want to see, me warning our co exec about feeding bull beef for the last 12 mths, is a good example

Very good:)

freedominacup

frazzledhome wrote: »

Read the article, thought it was fine with nothing new to report. Main warning was re over borrowing.

Usual stuff about the small amount traded globally and how a small under/over shoot can influence price. Topical page filler attempting to compare to property bubble where credit was what was being sold not houses.

The Sunday Times wouldn't be long clearing an acre of timber, some bulk reading for a week

The article on the front of that section was probably more interesting. Dawn making a second foray into dawgs country.