!! English HL 2015 - ALL things HL English, predictions, discussion etc.

Midlife Crashes

eoin12345 wrote: »

Are quotes in the comparative a necessity?! I know a couple but some of my friends in another class were told not to worry about putting any in....

Not necessary but just ensure to make adequate reference to the texts

me1289

Ag_science2015 wrote: »

thinking of doing Frost,Montague and Hardy. whats your view on that

you should do 5 poets, sorry to break that to you haha

ShaunDaSheep

Does anyone find it really unusual that for comparative, Theme and Issue and General Vision and Viewpoint have NEVER appeared together on the same paper ?

DarraghF197

ShaunDaSheep wrote: »

Does anyone find it really unusual that for comparative, Theme and Issue and General Vision and Viewpoint have NEVER appeared together on the same paper ?

All the more reason for them to come up together this time!

It is quite strange, yet they're probably quite alike as questions whereas literary genre is like the one that isn't on this year.

It seems a bit too obvious for Theme and Literary Genre to come up, so I think GVV is on the cards instead of Theme or Issue. Still don't know myself. I don't really care anyways because they are very similar to eachother and I just have notes on the key moments of each text.

Takuda

How are people preparing for the composition? I just can't get my head around it. Thinking of just winging it on the day

if832uspx4eogt

Any last minute tips for getting above 74-77% in the essays? I can never get above that grade no matter how hard I try.

ecoste

Does anyone have an essay for women in Othello?

LeeLee97

Jasmine Magnificent Slugger wrote: »

Any last minute tips for getting above 74-77% in the essays? I can never get above that grade no matter how hard I try.

No cliches
Let your personality come through and don't be afraid to open up - no matter how insignificant you might think something is, it's not!
You probably already know what type you're going for so if it's personal essay, use humour, reflection and just maintain a natural flow through your writing and you should do well

ShaunDaSheep

Would anyone else highly predict Theme and Issue? It was last on in 2013, it was on the course last year but did not appear and it is not on the course next year. I am useless at GVV and Lit Gen. I know i will have to have a fair idea on at least one of them i just want to know if people are saying yes or no to theme and issue ?

Kat97

Studying Othello and I have characters, relationships and themes covered. I'm really struggling with symbolism and imagery as we only touched on it in class.

Am I okay with what I have or should I try and learn it?

ShaunDaSheep

Kat97 wrote: »

Studying Othello and I have characters, relationships and themes covered. I'm really struggling with symbolism and imagery as we only touched on it in class.

Am I okay with what I have or should I try and learn it?

You will definitely be able to answer 1 of the questions. Only one question refers to imagery and symbolism

Kat97

ShaunDaSheep wrote: »

You will definitely be able to answer 1 of the questions. Only one question refers to imagery and symbolism

Thanks so much, I was freaking out there for a sec! :P

eoin12345

ShaunDaSheep wrote: »

Would anyone else highly predict Theme and Issue? It was last on in 2013, it was on the course last year but did not appear and it is not on the course next year. I am useless at GVV and Lit Gen. I know i will have to have a fair idea on at least one of them i just want to know if people are saying yes or no to theme and issue ?

General vision and viewpoint is very similar to theme or issue. Gvvp centres around the authors or directors outlook e.g optimistic/pessimistic but obviously you would have to put in your own opinion too. Generally the question is quite open so I usually compare the endings and openings of each text, the time/location and if there is time left a relationship or character. Most of these you probably discuss in a theme or issue question so really its not overly different to the content you've learned for theme and issue.you'll just have to alter the context slightly in your answer:) fingers crossed for theme or issue though!!!

yoyojc

I'm really confused about General Vision and Viewpoint

I know you're supposed to say you got a pessimistic or optimistic v and v etc.

But what are you comparing, when the q is not specific?
Characters?
Setting?
Key moments?
or whatever you want?

What do you say made u get that vision and viewpoint?

ranchero42

Hypothetically, if one were to learn only two poets, which two would they be (I'm not counting English)

Fiona G

ranchero42 wrote: »

Hypothetically, if one were to learn only two poets, which two would they be (I'm not counting English)

I would choose Ní Chuilleanáin and Dickinson. A female poet is (almost) a definite and Plath is unlikely to come up 3 years in a row.

eoin12345

yoyojc wrote: »

I'm really confused about General Vision and Viewpoint

I know you're supposed to say you got a pessimistic or optimistic v and v etc.

But what are you comparing, when the q is not specific?
Characters?
Setting?
Key moments?
or whatever you want?

What do you say made u get that vision and viewpoint?

What texts are you doing?

Ag_science2015

I am going to kinda study Montague, Hardy and Frost. Which one is most likely to come up. i am gonna learn a full answer on one of them, and now little bits on the other 2

Lune

Is theme and issue just comparing key moments?

me1289

Lune wrote: »

Is theme and issue just comparing key moments?

No, you must choose a theme that is in all 3 texts (violence) and discuss it using characters and key moments

lexijade

Could anyone help me with advice for the personal essay? I usually only get 50/60 out of 100 but don't know how to improve. It's really bringing my grade down..
Also is anyone else doing Juno, Garage and Brooklyn for comparitive?

bronaghgalvin1

Jijsaw wrote: »

We have done:
Dickinson
Plath
Frost
Montague
Yeats

I'm going studying the top 4 and perhaps Hardy. God damn you Plath coming up last year!

.....Hey I'm a repeat student so have a little practise at this .... Plath came up 3 years in a row so i wouldn't be banking on her Although she is on the course and in theory should have an equal chance of coming up ...it is very unlikely.
Best of luck in your exams

HannahLang

Okay so I've seen a lot of English predictions on here but the all seem to be predominately concerned with the poetry section and I haven't seen any Othello predictions! If anyone has some good Othello suggestions please share ??

yoyojc

eoin12345 wrote: »

What texts are you doing?

The kings speech
Brooklyn and Juno and the paycock

Is it ok to compare the opening in all three texts first and what kind of v and v that gave me

Then compare the setting and say what kind of v and v that gave me

Then compare the vivid characterisation and say what kind of v and v that gave me?

Or am I better off comparing key moments?
Would really appreciate ye're help lads!

leavingcert15

For othello a few people were saying the theme of jealousy or the role of women in the venetian society.

ShaunDaSheep

Yeats
Plath
Dickinson
Donne

Should I be covered ? the only other poet we did was ENC but i hate her poetry with a passion and refuse to learn it ?

lc2015x

ShaunDaSheep wrote: »

Yeats
Plath
Dickinson
Donne

Should I be covered ? the only other poet we did was ENC but i hate her poetry with a passion and refuse to learn it ?

Yeah, you'll be fine! I'm studying the same except instead of Plath, I'm doing Frost

eoin12345

yoyojc wrote: »

The kings speech
Brooklyn and Juno and the paycock

Is it ok to compare the opening in all three texts first and what kind of v and v that gave me

Then compare the setting and say what kind of v and v that gave me

Then compare the vivid characterisation and say what kind of v and v that gave me?

Or am I better off comparing key moments?
Would really appreciate ye're help lads!

Yes that's basically it!!! I usually compare openings and endings, relationships and setting/time of the text. If the question specifically asks for key moments describe the opening, the ending and another moment in the middle (you probably have something that happened in the middle of each test prepared for theme and issue so just use that) the ending is very important in a text. Did it end happily or unhappily or on a note of uncertainty? If you have time also look at the lives of the central character. Is their life bleak? Does their pessimistic outlook change? Why? Have a look at your exam papers at all the questions that have come up for gvvp and think about how you would answer them, that helped me a lot!

sdfghjk97

Does anyone know if short stories always come up in section 2 or not?

9de5q7tsr8u2im

Anyone know how much to write for:
Single text
Conparative
Studied poetry

Please need an advice fir top marks thanks!!

ShaunDaSheep

LuckyDude12 wrote: »

Anyone know how much to write for:
Single text
Conparative
Studied poetry

Please need an advice fir top marks thanks!!

Single text - 55mins
Comparative - 60 mins
poetry - 45 mins
unseen poetry - 15 mins

10 means at the start to read your questions etc...

15 mins at the end to read over your work

ShaunDaSheep

LuckyDude12 wrote: »

Anyone know how much to write for:
Single text
Conparative
Studied poetry

Please need an advice fir top marks thanks!!

completely misread your question above haha

Poetry - 4 pages

Comparative - 5-7

Unseen - page and a half max

Single text - 4-5 pages

9de5q7tsr8u2im

ShaunDaSheep wrote: »

completely misread your question above haha

Poetry - 4 pages

Comparative - 5-7

Unseen - page and a half max

Single text - 4-5 pages

Haha thanks for that both helps thanks!!

bmea

Am I the only one learning one poet?

ShaunDaSheep

bmea wrote: »

Am I the only one learning one poet?

I'm sure you're not the only one. Have fun if that poet doesn't come up though!

OMGeary

bmea wrote: »

Am I the only one learning one poet?

That's a brilliant idea! not.
Who are you learning?

Deranged96

Few questions lads!


When you're quoting from a poem, must you do the forward slash business when the quote runs on to another line?

Also, biographical information on the poets- yay or nay?

Is there anything imperative that you must know for paper one?


Thanks!

IrishLoriii

Deranged96 wrote: »

Few questions lads!


When you're quoting from a poem, must you do the forward slash business when the quote runs on to another line?

Also, biographical information on the poets- yay or nay?

Is there anything imperative that you must know for paper one?


Thanks!

Hi,
On the question of biographical information on a poet I think its fairly imperative to have some for Montague because it explains the basis of some of his poems and writing styles I really would make an effort to know that same for yeats

lc2015x

It's not necessary to do that business, my teacher doesn't mind if you don't do it -as long as the the quotation marks are in! I don't think they'd be too harsh on that!

Concentrate on main themes, style, symbols etc. But its nice if you know an auld line or three on the poets poems, just don't waste time on learning a huge bulk imo

Lastly, paper 1 is just all about practice, keep doing comprehensions in Timed conditions, make sure you know the different style of languages that are used, eg persuasion, argument etc. Make sure you know what composing you'll be going in to write about! I wouldn't get too bogged down on paper 1, you get nice bitta marks for just answering questions on a piece of extract etc
its paper 2 that drives me nuts!

Deranged96 wrote: »

Few questions lads!


When you're quoting from a poem, must you do the forward slash business when the quote runs on to another line?

Also, biographical information on the poets- yay or nay?




Is there anything imperative that you must know for paper one?


Thanks!

irishlad12345

prayin for montague,Hardy or ENC

lc2015x

EiC, Frost & Donne!

irishlad12345 wrote: »

prayin for montague,Hardy or ENC

bmea

OMGeary wrote: »

That's a brilliant idea! not.
Who are you learning?

Frost. Sure it'll be grand

Famoso

How much are you supposed to write for the comparative? Our teacher said around 7-8pages but that seems overkill and I've never gotten that amount written out in previous questions I've attempted.

lc2015x

7-8?? Jaysus, that's alot! No way
My teacher said if you're going in to do the full 70 mark question, roughly 5 pages is enough.
If you're going in to do the split question(30/40 marker), Part (a) should be 1.5-2 pages. Part (b) should be 2.5-3 pages.

Famoso wrote: »

How much are you supposed to write for the comparative? Our teacher said around 7-8pages but that seems overkill and I've never gotten that amount written out in previous questions I've attempted.

IrishLoriii

I don't know if any of yous know about this lady- she is a truly passionate teacher of English. I can honestly say I was at one of her talks and she just fills you with a want to enjoy English- I find her videos really helpful heres a link to one of her poetry ones-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8Pvhqf7ryk

fin709

When you are doing the literary genre i understand you have to talk about three aspects of literary genre but for theme and issue do you just talk about one theme for the entire answer? For example do you talk about isolation for an entire answer or do you bring in other themes?

Dianabluex

fin709 wrote: »

When you are doing the literary genre i understand you have to talk about three aspects of literary genre but for theme and issue do you just talk about one theme for the entire answer? For example do you talk about isolation for an entire answer or do you bring in other themes?

Its only one theme , Im doing the theme of identity.

Elemonator

Right my predictions are as following and have been backed up by teachers:

I got a B1 in the mock (I didn't even finish the story!) and I didn't study for P1. I think the trick in my personal opinion is to move away from rigours of rote learning in your compositions (P1 only!) and just let the writing flow. Know your speech techniques because they are dead easy. For your comp questions the golden rule for me is AT LEAST THREE points for each question which usually works out at a page and a bit.

Comparative: General Vision and Viewpoint
Othello: The role of women, the female characters, jealousy, loss in Othello and a question relating to Iago in someway.
Poetry: I'm placing my bets on Ni Chuill'. An Irish poet is likely to come up, especially a female one and Plath likely won't come up. I've heard Montague, Frost and Hardy are likely. Heaney was supposedly likely to come up last year because he was in the news at the time but he didn't so don't bank on Yeats.


Just my two cents, good luck everyone.

Kat97

http://leavingcertenglish.net/2011/04/comparative-essay-structure-2/

This has really helped me for the comparative!

IrishLoriii

Trying to figure out how stupid it would be to only study Hardy, Montague and Frost?? My class didn't study Eileen or Plath we did Emily but Im really unsure as to study her and I was never mad on Yeats?? What are your thoughts??