West Ham Utd v Liverpool, Sat Sept 20th, KO@17:30, SS1.

Guy:Incognito

tayto lover wrote: »

Liverpool minus Suarez = Spurs minus Bale.

Relying on scoring 4 because your going to concede 3 the whole time is never sustainable.

The basics of defending are gone out the window. Nothing to do with an aging Gerrard or anything else in the middle. Basic marking and tracking runners by the back 4.

Soups123

~Rebel~ wrote: »

Not only do we not look like scoring, we don't even look like trying!

The defense hasn't improved and the goals aren't coming, they really need Sturridge back

Lovren seems an awful buy he wasn't that impressive last year either

~Rebel~

tayto lover wrote: »

Liverpool minus Suarez = Spurs minus Bale.

Thats just not the case in this game though - if Suarez was playing today, not receiving the ball from a horrendous midfield, he'd have not done much with it either.

Crann na Beatha

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NukaCola

We all have a go at poor defending etc but you cannot account for mistakes like that, that was an awful header at any level of amateur/professional football. Awful.

Hulk Hands

Regression to the mean. Was to be expected

Drexel

tayto lover wrote: »

Liverpool minus Suarez = Spurs minus Bale.

I don't even think it's that. The losses this year have nothing to do with suarez or borini or any other forwards. Its the midfield and the defense. And they've replaced Renia with a worse keeper

IamtheWalrus

Looks like Gerard is finished.

Billy86

Some resolute commentary by Niall Quinn.

NukaCola

niallo27 wrote: »

Didn't spurs finish only 2 points worse without bale.

3 points. I'd bite your hand off for that right now being honest.

Billy86

IamtheWalrus wrote: »

Looks like Gerard is finished.

His form has slipped a bit lately, alright.

~Rebel~

Soups123 wrote: »

The defense hasn't improved and the goals aren't coming, they really need Sturridge back

Lovren seems an awful buy he wasn't that impressive last year either

He was great last year.

I dont even blame the defence all that much even...i'm repeating myself here, but seriously - midfield - what the ****?! They didn't help defending, and they didn't help attacking, what exactly did they do all day? Occasionally pass the ball to each other under no pressure, and then seemingly disappear when West Ham break.

Benimar

kingshankly wrote: »

Hendersons worse game in two years

Agreed, but it's hard to play centre midfield on your own.

citytillidie

Another Gerrard set play not getting past the 1st man

murpho999

Apart from the awful defending, Liverpool are not as creative up front as they were.
Had plenty of time to come back. Had loads of possession but created nothing.

kingshankly

IamtheWalrus wrote: »

Looks like Gerard is finished.

So is sakho loveran Henderson skirtel and Lucas if you go by that game

Augmerson

Augmerson wrote: »

3-1 West Ham.

Un****ingreal.

Agent Coulson

Liverpool didn't deserve anything out of the game tbh.

Hitchens

Former Liverpool captain Jamie Carragher: "After losing Suarez Lfc were never going to score 100 goals + this season so had to be better defensively, they actually look worse now."

That_Guy

Do you remember a time when Liverpool fans said they weren't a one man team?

Pepperidge Farm remembers.

davycc

well played hammers a great team display today and played the best football too

DildoFaggins

Gerrard should take a leaf out of Totti's book.

Well done West Ham. Completely deserved.

Backstreet Moyes

West Ham have really played lovely football today, played Liverpool off the park. Have they been like this lately big difference from what i seen last season.

John Cherry

Get in Well done you hammers.

Guy:Incognito

NukaCola wrote: »

We all have a go at poor defending etc but you cannot account for mistakes like that, that was an awful header at any level of amateur/professional football. Awful.

You most certainly can account. It's not like it put him clean through on goal. He was 40 yards out when he got it and the runner wasn't tracked. Skrtel was the deepest player and could see him running. No excuse for getting such a clean shot away.

hadepsx

hadepsx wrote: »

Bad feeling bout this game. Another fcuking late sat game. Hate em. Don't think pool will get anything outta this.

Fcuking knew it.
Really poor from Liverpool.again.

Lucas Hood

3 losses in first 5 games that's half the amount they lost all of last season.

Robson99

Looks like Liverpool will gave to wait another year again

Say it again Liverpool have spent poorly in the summer, it showed in the CL and today as again. Delighted for west ham

keeponhurling

Aubrey loves Joe wrote: »

Dejan like a young Bobby Moore with the ball at his feet

I too young to have seen bobby Moore playing when he was only a young lad

Will I Amnt

Just got in and seen the result, great stuff, well done Big Sam

John Cherry

Robson99 wrote: »

Looks like Liverpool will gave to wait another year again

Hopefully more then just a year

davycc

John Cherry wrote: »

Hopefully more then just a year

Hopefully and hopefully they get less flukey penos their way too:D:D

Mantis Toboggan

Rogers starting to come under huge pressure now. The defense is a mess and the midfield is one paced, relying on the strikers to carry the team again is unrealistic!

MagicIRL

niallo27

Only a blip on the way to glory.

Soups123

Buddy Holly wrote: »

Rogers starting to come under huge pressure now. The defense is a mess and the midfield is one paced, relying on the strikers to carry the team again is unrealistic!

He really seems to have a huge job on his hand, really poor defense carried in from last year, very unamaginative up front, lots of players to settle in and games coming quick and fast.

He has some big decisions to make with the back 4 and with Gerrard who he is accommodating now

Jelle1880

What a result, West Ham were fantastic (especially the first half), never stopped chasing every ball.

Rayne Wooney

How much did Rodgers spend?

Excellent result

niallo27

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

How much did Rodgers spend?

Excellent result

Total or net.

UnitedIrishman

Can't understand playing Gerrard in back to back games like that. Daftness.

West Ham were full value for their result to be fair.

Fr. Ned

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

How much did Rodgers spend?

Excellent result

How much did united spend over the summer?

And they're not even in the CL, or the worthless cup come to think of it.....

West Ham play like a gang of boggers, 3 points for them alright, but I thought the Wimbledon model was long gone....

Alfred Borden

Liverpool and Arsenal could both do with a proper DM. Gerrard and Arteta just arent up to it anymore.

Soups123

Fr. Ned wrote: »

How much did united spend over the summer?

And they're not even in the CL, or the worthless cup come to think of it.....

West Ham play like a gang of boggers, 3 points for them alright, but I thought the Wimbledon model was long gone....

There was absolutely nothing Wimbledon about that, West Ham played very well and beat a very poor pool team by there standard

MagicIRL

Liverpool are an injury to Sterling away from a disaster imo.

Billy86

Fr. Ned wrote: »

West Ham play like a gang of boggers, 3 points for them alright, but I thought the Wimbledon model was long gone....

They outplayed you, it's not up to them to play how you want them to but it is up to you to stop them. You sound like Arsene Wenger from a few years ago.

UnitedIrishman

Fr. Ned wrote: »

West Ham play like a gang of boggers, 3 points for them alright, but I thought the Wimbledon model was long gone....

The age old excuse when you lose to West Ham. Except there was nothing 'boggerish' about it. They played some good stuff there tonight.

The Davestator

Fr. Ned wrote: »

How much did united spend over the summer?

And they're not even in the CL, or the worthless cup come to think of it.....

West Ham play like a gang of boggers, 3 points for them alright, but I thought the Wimbledon model was long gone....

Says Liverpool who have resorted to 'hoofing it up to the big man' in a few games?!

Moneymaker

Fr. Ned wrote: »

How much did united spend over the summer?

And they're not even in the CL, or the worthless cup come to think of it.....

West Ham play like a gang of boggers, 3 points for them alright, but I thought the Wimbledon model was long gone....

They played you off the park. Deal with it.