Kingsman: The Secret Service

marienbad

marienbad wrote: »

But our hero didn't walk away unscathed

Pretty sure out hero did, yes his mentor did die but that was obvious from the very moment we first met him.

marienbad

Deleted User wrote: »

Pretty sure out hero did, yes his mentor did die but that was obvious from the very moment we first met him.

There can be more than one ! And in this age of sequels it wasn't obvious to me or my 12 year old grandson , we were in shock !

syklops

marienbad wrote: »

But our hero didn't walk away unscathed

Thanks for spoiling that. Watched half of it last night and was intending to watch the other half tonight. What I saw I enjoyed.

marienbad

marienbad wrote: »

There can be more than one ! And in this age of sequels it wasn't obvious to me or my 12 year old grandson , we were in shock !

Really, you didn't see that death coming a mile off? It was obvious from pretty early on that there would be some form of passing the torch and as such that a certain pivotal death was obvious. Much of the film was built around the relationship between the two and there needed to be something which would drive our lead. I also don't get your "in this age of sequels" remark, there's more original films coming out every year than ever before and you do realise that Kingsman was made so as to kickstart a franchise and pump out sequel after sequel.

ziedth

syklops wrote: »

Thanks for spoiling that. Watched half of it last night and was intending to watch the other half tonight. What I saw I enjoyed.

FWIW all talk that he's coming back for the sequel should it happen

marienbad

Deleted User wrote: »

Really, you didn't see that death coming a mile off? It was obvious from pretty early on that there would be some form of passing the torch and as such that a certain pivotal death was obvious. Much of the film was built around the relationship between the two and there needed to be something which would drive our lead. I also don't get your "in this age of sequels" remark, there's more original films coming out every year than ever before and you do realise that Kingsman was made so as to kickstart a franchise and pump out sequel after sequel.

I believe efforts are underway to resurrect the fallen hero in any sequel , which proves my point .

marienbad

marienbad wrote: »

I believe efforts are underway to resurrect the fallen hero in any sequel , which proves my point .

If anything it proves my point that in films such as this the action isn't all that interesting given that there are no stakes in play. We saw something similar happen in The Avengers where a character was killed off only for the sad pathetic cries of fan boys to be met with a studio pandering to appease them.

marienbad

Deleted User wrote: »

If anything it proves my point that in films such as this the action isn't all that interesting given that there are no stakes in play. We saw something similar happen in The Avengers where a character was killed off only for the sad pathetic cries of fan boys to be met with a studio pandering to appease them.

Ha ha ,you are taking it too seriously , it is a comicbook escapist piece of fun .

K-9

But Samuel L. was always going to play it like!

Dave_The_Sheep

ziedth wrote: »

I'm a huge fan of Strong too and thought he was underused a bit.

Too often the case. He's invariably superb.

youngblood

Had zero expectations for this and was pleasantly surprised, the initial pub sequence and the training water scenes were very well done, would recommend for a watch for anyone who hasnt seen it, v enjoyable

BoJack Horseman

I quite liked this film.
It was a lot of fun.

I can see why the 'princess' scene at the end put some people off, but didn't bother me.

Dave_The_Sheep

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

I quite liked this film.
It was a lot of fun.

I can see why the 'princess' scene at the end put some people off, but didn't bother me.

It put people off?

BoJack Horseman

Dave_The_Sheep wrote: »

It put people off?

The right-on set & kermodes of the world werent impressed.
I remember small accusations of misogyny at the time.

errlloyd

Is anyone else seeing mad hype for the DVD release, like more than there was for the cinema release?

On demand services, streaming services and others seem to have it plastered everywhere.

The Dark Side

It was pretty amusing, not sure I'd bother watching it again but it was fine.

Thought it was funny that it ended with a dedication to his mother, considering the last scene of the movie was basically a poor taste anal sex joke.

Have a bit of class for Christ sake!

Memnoch

The Dark Side wrote: »

It was pretty amusing, not sure I'd bother watching it again but it was fine.

Thought it was funny that it ended with a dedication to his mother, considering the last scene of the movie was basically a poor taste anal sex joke.

Have a bit of class for Christ sake!

Enjoyed the film but completely agree. That last scene almost ruins the whole film. I'd have been impressed if she got him to open the door only to clobber him on the head or something.

It was sexist and offensive. Reducing 'the princess of Norway' to someone whose only worth was to be his Anal sex reward. Really let down what was a fantastically fun film otherwise.

FunLover18

Memnoch wrote:

It was sexist and offensive. Reducing 'the princess of Norway' to someone whose only worth was to be his Anal sex reward. Really let down what was a fantastically fun film otherwise.

I think it's meant to be a dig at the Roger Moore Bond films which all ended with him in bed. I think it could've worked better but it came off more as an homage then a piss take.

Mickeroo

The films it's paying homage too are all sexist and offensive by today's standards, the film makers were well aware of this with that scene I think.

Memnoch

Mickeroo wrote: »

The films it's paying homage too are all sexist and offensive by today's standards, the film makers were well aware of this with that scene I think.

Except their execution of the scene rendered moot any attempt to make light of these ideas.

The scene could easily have been played with a nod and a wink but it just came across as crass and in poor taste. It felt out of place and was completely unnecessary.

Mickeroo

Memnoch wrote: »

Except their execution of the scene rendered moot any attempt to make light of these ideas.

I don't really agree, the whole film was very self aware and the scene was clearly not meant to be taken seriously. They could have left out the gratuitious ass shot though to be fair.

K-9

Memnoch wrote: »

Enjoyed the film but completely agree. That last scene almost ruins the whole film. I'd have been impressed if she got him to open the door only to clobber him on the head or something.

It was sexist and offensive. Reducing 'the princess of Norway' to someone whose only worth was to be his Anal sex reward. Really let down what was a fantastically fun film otherwise.

Its taking the piss out of the typical Bond girl who often is just a sex object and not much else.

KatW4

Saw this a couple of nights ago and it was hilarious. Some absolutely ridiculous scenes though.

Also, I LOVE Colin Firth!!

FunLover18

K-9 wrote:

Its taking the piss out of the typical Bond girl who often is just a sex object and not much else.

But she just ended up being a typical bond girl. There was nothing especially satirical about the way she was written or portrayed. I wasn't overly offended by the joke myself but it did feel out of place.

youngblood

I never batted an eyelid at the final scene
The code spells anal when typed into your phone/text

youngblood

youngblood wrote: »

I never batted an eyelid at the final scene
The code spells anal when typed into your phone/text

I think most people got that, it was so on the nose that it felt like the film was screaming that you notice it. The final gag could have worked but it was so witless and on the nose that it just came across as a desperate attempt at being witty.

ps3lover

I had to order the U.S. blu Ray of this, I skipped it in theatres because they cut it down for a 15 and then they didn't even bother putting the uncut version on blu ray over here. Infuriating.

The Dark Side

Mickeroo wrote: »

I don't really agree, the whole film was very self aware and the scene was clearly not meant to be taken seriously. They could have left out the gratuitious ass shot though to be fair.

It came across more as a nod and a wink to the teenage-boy pornhub-reared generation that the film was aimed at rather than a satirical swipe at 1970's Bond movies.

It was crass, vulgar and a poor choice of scene to end what had been a reasonably fun and frothy film.

wonderboysam

Saw this pop up on sky anytime thought Colin Firth, spy movie.. bound to be a snorefest but what the hell. HOLY SHIT!!!!!! THAT WAS CRAZY!! Can't ever remember being so pleasantly surprised. Best movie I've seen in a long time.

Gwynplaine

Terrible film. SLJ is just a parody of himself in it. Most of the scenes are ridiculous.

wp_rathead

i don't see how anyone could take the final scene seriously, it was so obviously pulling the piss out of the whole "Bond Girl" thing..

syklops

wp_rathead wrote: »

i don't see how anyone could take the final scene seriously, it was so obviously pulling the piss out of the whole "Bond Girl" thing..

Do you mean to suggest you took the rest of the film seriously?

Was the end scene the only part you thought was taking the piss out of Bond?

SLJ is just a parody of himself in it.

Thats the point.

Most of the scenes are ridiculous.

Well duh!

wp_rathead

syklops wrote: »

Do you mean to suggest you took the rest of the film seriously?

Was the end scene the only part you though was taking the piss out of Bond?

eh?
obviously it was pulling the piss which is what I said

syklops

wp_rathead wrote: »

eh?
obviously it was pulling the piss which is what I said

Was the end scene the only part you thought was taking the piss out of Bond?

wp_rathead

syklops wrote: »

Was the end scene the only part you thought was taking the piss out of Bond?

I'm flattered by your interest in what I thought syklops
Like I said the end scene was pulling the piss out of the whole "Bond GIRLS" tradition- which is what the conversation in this thread was centered on when I replied
Of course there were constant references to Bond movies that they were parodying throughout

AMKC

Thought this film was very good and funny when I seen it in the cinema 3 years ago. Am really looking forward to the next film coming out in September.