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Working people "should" live in dormitories

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    #122
    Crusades
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 152 ✭✭Crusades


    Foxmint wrote: »
    You don't beat the corrupt by joining them

    Like I said before, I'll be first in line when the corruption cease fire is declared.

    And no, I won't call corruption because I won't get promoted, find myself being "managed out" or I could risk losing my job by firing accusations around. There is no whistle blower mechanism in place where I work.


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    #123
    mikemac1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    He'd be better off in McDonalds then working in the hospital. McDonalds are a good employer and he could work his way up.

    He'll still be doing that same job in the hospital in many years when his back gives out from mopping floors. And the contractor would drop him in a second


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    #124
    Crusades
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 152 ✭✭Crusades


    mikemac1 wrote: »
    He'd be better off in McDonalds then working in the hospital. McDonalds are a good employer and he could work his way up.

    He'll still be doing that same job in the hospital in many years when his back gives out from mopping floors. And the contractor would drop him in a second

    Sigh. And around we go again.

    So his replacement should also be denied a basic standard of living while those who contribute little if anything are housed in luxury?

    thejournal.ie/thornton-heights-housing-scheme-opening-1663347-Sep2014/


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    #125
    Foxmint
    Closed Accounts Posts: 129 ✭✭Foxmint


    Crusades wrote: »
    Like I said before, I'll be first in line when the corruption cease fire is declared.

    And no, I won't call corruption because I won't get promoted, find myself being "managed out" or I could risk losing my job by firing accusations around. There is no whistle blower mechanism in place where I work.

    That's not an excuse for turning corrupt yourself. You're fooling no one but yourself.


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    #126
    Foxmint
    Closed Accounts Posts: 129 ✭✭Foxmint


    mikemac1 wrote: »
    He'd be better off in McDonalds then working in the hospital. McDonalds are a good employer and he could work his way up.

    He'll still be doing that same job in the hospital in many years when his back gives out from mopping floors. And the contractor would drop him in a second

    Since when did you have to "work your way up" to be treated with dignity and as a decent human being ?


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    #127
    Crusades
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 152 ✭✭Crusades


    Foxmint wrote: »
    That's not an excuse for turning corrupt yourself. You're fooling no one but yourself.

    Please explain how I am corrupt?

    Before you do that, think about what magnitude of corruption you think I engage in vs. the magnitude of documented corruption that has gone on in the recent past.


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    #128
    Foxmint
    Closed Accounts Posts: 129 ✭✭Foxmint


    Crusades wrote: »
    How am I corrupt?

    The I'm not corrupt, I just go along with them excuse. lol.


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    #129
    mikemac1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    Foxmint wrote: »
    Since when did you have to "work your way up" to be treated with dignity and as a decent human being ?

    It will help him afford his lifestyle. He has a job and is clearly a hard worker and most comments here are not judging him

    If 9.50 per hour was a super wage this article would not exist
    Crusades wrote: »
    Sigh. And around we go again.

    So his replacement should also be denied a basic standard of living while those who contribute little if anything are housed in luxury?

    thejournal.ie/thornton-heights-housing-scheme-opening-1663347-Sep2014/

    My post has nothing to do with the workshy citizens spending their life on welfare. There are other posters who posted about that if you want to quote them


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    #130
    Crusades
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 152 ✭✭Crusades


    Foxmint wrote: »
    The I'm not corrupt, I just go along with them excuse. lol.

    If you want to make corruption accusations, off you go. Put up or shut up.

    Please list the law(s) that I have broken.


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    #131
    Crusades
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 152 ✭✭Crusades


    mikemac1 wrote: »
    It will help him afford his lifestyle. He has a job and is clearly a hard worker and most comments here are not judging him

    If 9.50 per hour was a super wage this article would not exist

    Ah yes, it's a "lifestyle choice" to expect a decent standard of living from an honest week's work.


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    #132
    NGC999888
    Registered Users Posts: 76 ✭✭NGC999888


    Crusades wrote: »
    Ludicrous misogynist rubbish.

    Women these days pay others to rear their children. They work as hard now (if not harder) than they ever did. Please don't try and insinuate that rearing the next generation of taxpayers isn't work.

    Seriously, You are all over the place in your arguments.
    As someone said, just like a politician :)

    How much tax does your guy on €9 per hour pay?
    Very little I would guess.


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    #133
    Foxmint
    Closed Accounts Posts: 129 ✭✭Foxmint


    Crusades wrote: »
    If you want to make corruption accusations, off you go. Put up or shut up.

    Please list the law(s) that I have broken.

    You just admitted you collaberated with it every day of the week.


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    #134
    Crusades
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 152 ✭✭Crusades


    NGC999888 wrote: »
    Seriously, You are all over the place in your arguments.
    As someone said, just like a politician :)

    How much tax does your guy on €9 per hour pay?
    Very little I would guess.

    He's paying tax. He's contributing to the system.

    However people who have never worked get to live in luxury.

    thejournal.ie/thornton-heights-housing-scheme-opening-1663347-Sep2014/


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    #135
    Crusades
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 152 ✭✭Crusades


    Foxmint wrote: »
    You just admitted you collaberated with it every day of the week.

    How so?

    What laws have I broken?

    Again, put up or shut up.


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    #136
    mikemac1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    Crusades wrote: »
    Ah yes, it's a "lifestyle choice" to expect a decent standard of living from an honest week's work.

    It's a choice to rent a flat on your own. Plenty of workers who earn far more then him share with strangers.

    What's the solution Crusades? Should the HSE hire him directly for 15 euro per hour and give him a pension and entitlements. Brilliant, do it :). And now he's earning more then graduate nurses on 22k per year despite 4 years training


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    #137
    Foxmint
    Closed Accounts Posts: 129 ✭✭Foxmint


    Crusades wrote: »
    How so?

    What laws have I broken?

    Again, put up or shut up.
    Crusades wrote: »
    I see ineffeciencies and waste every day of the week where I work (public sector). You don't get promoted where I work by saving money or pointing out where your manager is wasting money.

    So you go along with the waste of taxpayers money, instead of speaking up against it, which makes you no better than a collaborating leech on the taxpayer as well. You don't have to be caught breaking a law to be corrupt or collaberate with it.


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    #138
    NGC999888
    Registered Users Posts: 76 ✭✭NGC999888


    Crusades wrote: »
    He's paying tax. He's contributing to the system.

    However people who have never worked get to live in luxury.

    thejournal.ie/thornton-heights-housing-scheme-opening-1663347-Sep2014/

    So we are back again now to kicking people on welfare out of their houses to give those houses to low paid workers.
    While it might be popular, it will never happen.

    Next you'll be asking for the retired to be kicked out of their houses to give to your guy too. Or have you already suggested that one too?


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    #139
    Crusades
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 152 ✭✭Crusades


    Foxmint wrote: »
    So you go along with the waste of taxpayers money, instead of speaking up against it, which makes you no better than a collaborating leech on the taxpayer as well. You don't have to be caught breaking a law to be corrupt or collaberate with it.

    I am forced to engage in low level corruption. I don't do so out of choice.

    You're sitting there with a hailo over your head saying you'd sooner be an unemployed hero than an employed coward? Yeah f*cking right.

    That's what happens when you live Ireland - the Wild West of Europe.

    Now what laws did I break?


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    #140
    Foxmint
    Closed Accounts Posts: 129 ✭✭Foxmint


    Crusades wrote: »
    I am forced to engage in low level corruption. I don't do so out of choice.

    No is forcing you to do anything, you're making money off the taxpayer while turning a blind eye, which makes you no better, and the very reason all the corruption exists and thrives in the first place.


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    #141
    Crusades
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 152 ✭✭Crusades


    NGC999888 wrote: »
    So we are back again now to kicking people on welfare out of their houses to give those houses to low paid workers.
    While it might be popular, it will never happen.

    Next you'll be asking for the retired to be kicked out of their houses to give to your guy too. Or have you already suggested that one too?

    I don't think people on welfare should be denied a basic standard of living either.

    There is a very strong dole culture in Ireland - that needs to change.

    All I'm doing is highlighting the perverse system that has developed in this country - a system that prioritises those who contribute nothing over those who contribute lots.

    I made a list of suggestions as to how to fix this in an earlier post. Practical policy changes that can be made that wouldn't cost very much.


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    #142
    The_Morrigan
    Registered Users Posts: 9,368 ✭✭✭The_Morrigan


    This thread is just going round in off topic circles.


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    #143
    Victor
    Registered Users Posts: 78,422 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    NGC999888 wrote: »
    All of the housing problems began when women were encouraged to enter the workplace. Now its assumed that both of any couple will be working to afford where they live. This drives prices up. Single people compete with double incomes for the same accommodation. Stop women working and your problem is solved OP. Good luck with that too.
    You might rephrase you post so it doesn't come across as being bigoted

    Moderator

    Stop women working and watch incomes (personal and national) drop at least 30%.


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    #144
    The_Conductor
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 32,285 Mod ✭✭✭✭The_Conductor


    Victor wrote: »
    You might rephrase you post so it doesn't come across as being bigoted

    Moderator

    Stop women working and watch incomes (personal and national) drop at least 30%.

    More misogynisitc than bigoted to be honest.
    Unacceptable, either way.

    The thread has a temporary reprieve- on the understanding that people behave. There will be a zero tolerance approach to moderating from the 3 of us. If you misbehave, we will come down on you like a tonne of bricks- this is your one and only warning.


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    #145
    ec18
    Registered Users Posts: 2,723 ✭✭✭ec18


    Crusades wrote: »
    How long to you intend to be stuck house sharing for?

    4/5 years maybe.....well thats all going according to plan


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