Dublin marathon elite Field

wgtomblin

GoTheDistance wrote: »

Surely there might be a few elite male and female athletes from the UK or Europe?

Yes, there will be.

pconn062

GoTheDistance wrote: »

Surely there might be a few elite male and female athletes from the UK or Europe?

Yeah, I was just going with Irish runners for the National champs.

wgtomblin

pconn062 wrote: »

Anyway.....

So on the men's side we have:

Gary O'Hanlon
Eddie McGinley
Sergiu Ciobanu (?)
Martin Fagan (?)


Anyone else?

Paddy Hamilton
Freddy Sittuk (?)

Netwerk Errer

pconn062 wrote: »

Anyway.....

Let's try and drag this back on topic. Eddie McGinley had a great run last year in his first outing, looked like one of the stronger runners when I seen him around the 23 mile mark.

So on the men's side we have:

Gary O'Hanlon
Eddie McGinley
Sergiu Ciobanu (?)
Martin Fagan (?)

Women:

Maria McCambridge

Anyone else?

I heard Fagan's not running. Not sure how reliable that is.

As another poster mentioned, where is Sean Connolly? He seems to have dropped off the face of the planet since his 2.16 in Rotterdam 2 years ago.

Kennealy (?)
Frazer (?)
Pollock (?)
Ledwith (?)

Does anyone know when the DCM usually release the entrants?

RayCun

Pollock still injured I think?

ecoli

Netwerk Errer wrote: »

I heard Fagan's not running. Not sure how reliable that is.

As another poster mentioned, where is Sean Connolly? He seems to have dropped off the face of the planet since his 2.16 in Rotterdam 2 years ago.

Kennealy (?)
Frazer (?)
Pollock (?)
Ledwith (?)

Does anyone know when the DCM usually release the entrants?

Fagan not running,

Connolly now living in England has raced a few 10k's over the last 2 years.

Frazer doesn't live in the country, possibly down for Chicago (not in elite field but AFAIK is living out that direction)

Kenneally and Pollock I don't think have returned to full form regarding injuries.

Ledwith not sure about

youngrun

Netwerk Errer wrote: »

I heard Fagan's not running. Not sure how reliable that is.

As another poster mentioned, where is Sean Connolly? He seems to have dropped off the face of the planet since his 2.16 in Rotterdam 2 years ago.

Kennealy (?)
Frazer (?)
Pollock (?)
Ledwith (?)

Does anyone know when the DCM usually release the entrants?

Sean teaching in England last I heard, 50 mins in Dungarvan earlier this year.
The marathon is such a tough event at the elite end, very hard to sustain training with work/life year in year out for more than a couple of years before a burnout hits- Am sure most of the above plus the likes of Thornton, and Sweeney will be back for a pre Rio qualification push , though have heard little of Andrew Ledwith. Not sure if Cragg will ever go near a mara again
Similar story with the ladies , the 2012 olympic crew are not on the scene now, some will hopefully return. Maria Mc is quite amazing , huge drive and hunger for racing and championships.

Hard Worker

There is an exceptionally good elite field this year, in terms of Irish athletes. There are 7 men hoping for sub 2:20 and 3 women who should be under 2:40. When you bear in mind that we are just over the European Championships, that's a really good number. There are also about 6 more who should be sub 2:25. On top of that, there are international elites invited, including one exceptional half marathon runner who is making his debut and a fresh Aleksey Sokolov hoping for another 2:10.
The elite field will be released next week.
If you are comparing Dublin to any marathon, it is probably best to compare it to Autumn marathons. Not much point comparing Dublin to Rotterdam. They have an elite budget which could cost 3 million.
I think Dublin has ideal weather conditions most of the time and the course is decent. Many national records have been broken here and Sokolov's Russian one still stands as far as I know.

Netwerk Errer

youngrun wrote: »

Sean teaching in England last I heard, 50 mins in Dungarvan earlier this year.
The marathon is such a tough event at the elite end, very hard to sustain training with work/life year in year out for more than a couple of years before a burnout hits- Am sure most of the above plus the likes of Thornton, and Sweeney will be back for a pre Rio qualification push , though have heard little of Andrew Ledwith. Not sure if Cragg will ever go near a mara again
Similar story with the ladies , the 2012 olympic crew are not on the scene now, some will hopefully return. Maria Mc is quite amazing , huge drive and hunger for racing and championships.

Cragg is running NYC.

ecoli

youngrun wrote: »

Not sure if Cragg will ever go near a mara again

Is on the entry list for NY

wgtomblin

Hard Worker wrote: »

There is an exceptionally good elite field this year, in terms of Irish athletes. ...... On top of that, there are international elites invited

Thanks. Any idea when the fields will be announced?

tang1

Hard Worker wrote: »

The elite field will be released next week.

Should answer your question.

pistol_75

Hard Worker wrote: »

There is an exceptionally good elite field this year, in terms of Irish athletes. There are 7 men hoping for sub 2:20 and 3 women who should be under 2:40. When you bear in mind that we are just over the European Championships, that's a really good number. There are also about 6 more who should be sub 2:25.

This will be good to look back at after the event. Personally I don't think there is a hope in hell of 7 Irish men going Sub 2:20 and 13 in total Sub 2:25.

Last year there were 2 and 8 within the above times.

Netwerk Errer

What I wanna know is who is the exceptional half marathoner making his debut in the marathon?

Time to start speculating!

Calvin Johnson

Mick Clohissey?

nerraw1111

I know an Ethiopian 2.12 runner has asked for an entry.

His relation is a former Boston marathon winner.

GoTheDistance

Probably best then to wait until next week for the list of elite male and female athletes to be published. Thirstywork2's creation of a speculation-based thread hasn't really provided any insight. I'm sure there can be a great debate when the actual list is published.

thirstywork2

GoTheDistance wrote: »

Probably best then to wait until next week for the list of elite male and female athletes to be published. Thirstywork2's creation of a speculation-based thread hasn't really provided any insight. I'm sure there can be a great debate when the actual list is published.

My post was not really to speculate but to find out who was in fact running.

So list of Irish who are 100% starting barring injuries are ???
Foreign athletes are always up in the air depending on who the Dublin marathon want or allow to run.Budgets will also dictate this.

Hardworker will fill us in on the elite field when that is finalised im sure.
Would love to see some top Uk runners to help bring a few lads under 2.20

thirstywork2

Netwerk Errer wrote: »

I heard Fagan's not running. Not sure how reliable that is.

As another poster mentioned, where is Sean Connolly? He seems to have dropped off the face of the planet since his 2.16 in Rotterdam 2 years ago.

Kennealy (?)
Frazer (?)
Pollock (?)
Ledwith (?)

Does anyone know when the DCM usually release the entrants?

Sean is now back living in Dublin and training well but not sure he is doing Dublin.
Ledwith on a long road back and probably won't see him run a marathon for 2-3 years.
Kenneally working his way back to fitness after surgery,last race was Donadea 5k I think.

leftism

Quick question:

Does the elite field start up front as part of wave 1 or do they have their own separate start?

Need an answer to this ASAP... Thanks

RayCun

up front as part of wave 1


(which means random chancers can sneak to the front too)

leftism

Brilliant. Thanks for the quick response

28064212

RayCun wrote: »

(which means random chancers can sneak to the front too)

Like the guy front and centre? First after 8 seconds. 1704th at the end :rolleyes:

nerraw1111

The look number 7 is shooting no.854 lol

TFBubendorfer

28064212 wrote: »

Like the guy front and centre? First after 8 seconds. 1704th at the end :rolleyes:

I remember passing him somewhere around mile 18 or 19, and he was knackered and clearly not looking forward to the final 7 or 8 or miles (good! )

RacoonQueen

So...who are they then?

Netwerk Errer

Any updates on the field?

tang1

Any update on the elite field?

Ghost in Cratloe

The stream trickles along the forbidden landscape,
The sun shines bright through the effervescent evergreen,
The leaves smother the tattered trials,
The fall is upon us and we shall march towards the trumpets of Merrion Square.

Irish Men's National Marathon Contenders 2014:

Gary O Hanlon
Sergiu Ciobanu
Freddy Keron Sittuk
Barry Minnock,
Brian McMahon
Brian Maher
Paddy Hamilton
Eddie mcGinley
Eoin Flynn

On the women's side there is Maria McCambridge, Barbara Sanchez, Fiona Stack, Breege Connolly.

On the International side there is Scola Kiptoo from Kenya,. She has a personal record of 77 mins for the half so not out of reach for the Irish girls.

On the men's side there is the 2.09 Russian mentioned earlier and a few others from across the Iron Curtain. Perhaps Freddy will bring a few Kenyans over with him!

barryoneill50

Ghost in Cratloe wrote: »

The stream trickles along the forbidden landscape,
The sun shines bright through the effervescent evergreen,
The leaves smother the tattered trials,
The fall is upon us and we shall march towards the trumpets of Merrion Square.

Irish Men's National Marathon Contenders 2014:

Gary O Hanlon
Sergiu Ciobanu
Freddy Keron Sittuk
Barry Minnock,
Brian McMahon
Brian Maher
Paddy Hamilton
Eddie mcGinley
Eoin Flynn

On the women's side there is Maria McCambridge, Barbara Sanchez, Fiona Stack, Breege Connolly.

On the International side there is Scola Kiptoo from Kenya,. She has a personal record of 77 mins for the half so not out of reach for t he Irish girls.

On the men's side there is the 2.09 Russian mentioned earlier and a few others from across the Iron Curtain. Perhaps Freddy will bring a few Kenyans over with him!

Who's your money on
Any possibility we might get those Kenyans?
Nice penmanship by the way

blockic

Ghost in Cratloe wrote: »

The stream trickles along the forbidden landscape,
The sun shines bright through the effervescent evergreen,
The leaves smother the tattered trials,
The fall is upon us and we shall march towards the trumpets of Merrion Square.
m!

The poetry master. :rolleyes:

tang1

blockic wrote: »

The poetry master. :rolleyes:

Spoofer or liar would be more apt i would have thought.

Netwerk Errer

Ghost in Cratloe wrote: »

The stream trickles along the forbidden landscape,
The sun shines bright through the effervescent evergreen,
The leaves smother the tattered trials,
The fall is upon us and we shall march towards the trumpets of Merrion Square.

Irish Men's National Marathon Contenders 2014:

Gary O Hanlon
Sergiu Ciobanu
Freddy Keron Sittuk
Barry Minnock,
Brian McMahon
Brian Maher
Paddy Hamilton
Eddie mcGinley
Eoin Flynn

On the women's side there is Maria McCambridge, Barbara Sanchez, Fiona Stack, Breege Connolly.

On the International side there is Scola Kiptoo from Kenya,. She has a personal record of 77 mins for the half so not out of reach for the Irish girls.

On the men's side there is the 2.09 Russian mentioned earlier and a few others from across the Iron Curtain. Perhaps Freddy will bring a few Kenyans over with him!

7 Irish guys under 2.20 and a further 6 under 2.25 looks very unlikely. GOH says he wants to run 2.17, I can't see that happening but if his run in the Athlone 3/4 was a true MP run, he definitely has a shot at sub 2.20.

If I had to pick a winner now, I'd go for Freddy the Kenyan who has run under 2.20 on several occasions.

Maria Mc on the women's side. When is the full international field going to come out?

tang1

Netwerk Errer wrote: »

7 Irish guys under 2.20 and a further 6 under 2.25 looks very unlikely. GOH says he wants to run 2.17, I can't see that happening but if his run in the Athlone 3/4 was a true MP run, he definitely has a shot at sub 2.20.

If I had to pick a winner now, I'd go for Freddy the Kenyan who has run under 2.20 on several occasions.

Maria Mc on the women's side. When is the full international field going to come out?

I was marshaling at the Athlone 3/4 just short of the 10 mile mark and GOH came through very comfortable and was able to converse with me. If he maintained that pace as you said he'll go sub 2.20. Looking at him at the time i saw him i thought he was holding back, so sub 2.17 might well be achievable.

wgtomblin

Netwerk Errer wrote: »

7 Irish guys under 2.20 and a further 6 under 2.25 looks very unlikely. GOH says he wants to run 2.17, I can't see that happening but if his run in the Athlone 3/4 was a true MP run, he definitely has a shot at sub 2.20.

If I had to pick a winner now, I'd go for Freddy the Kenyan who has run under 2.20 on several occasions.

Maria Mc on the women's side. When is the full international field going to come out?

Agreed. Hard to argue against Freddy the Kenyan and Maria for the National titles.
Looks like there could be good battles for the minor medals in both fields.

TRR_the_turd

Ghost in Cratloe wrote: »

The stream trickles along the forbidden landscape,
The sun shines bright through the effervescent evergreen,
The leaves smother the tattered trials,
The fall is upon us and we shall march towards the trumpets of Merrion Square.

Irish Men's National Marathon Contenders 2014:

Gary O Hanlon
Sergiu Ciobanu
Freddy Keron Sittuk
Barry Minnock,
Brian McMahon
Brian Maher
Paddy Hamilton
Eddie mcGinley
Eoin Flynn

On the women's side there is Maria McCambridge, Barbara Sanchez, Fiona Stack, Breege Connolly.

On the International side there is Scola Kiptoo from Kenya,. She has a personal record of 77 mins for the half so not out of reach for the Irish girls.

On the men's side there is the 2.09 Russian mentioned earlier and a few others from across the Iron Curtain. Perhaps Freddy will bring a few Kenyans over with him!

Great to see you back woodchopper


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menoscemo

TRR_the_turd wrote: »

Great to see you back woodchopper


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menoscemo

Netwerk Errer wrote: »

7 Irish guys under 2.20 and a further 6 under 2.25 looks very unlikely. GOH says he wants to run 2.17, I can't see that happening but if his run in the Athlone 3/4 was a true MP run, he definitely has a shot at sub 2.20.

If I had to pick a winner now, I'd go for Freddy the Kenyan who has run under 2.20 on several occasions.

Maria Mc on the women's side. When is the full international field going to come out?

Maria is definitely a clear favourite for the women's national title. If her run in Charleville is anything to go by then she is in PB shape.
I think Sergiu might give Freddy a game in the men's. He hasn't been racing much of late so must be training steady....he has the fastest recent PB, didn't he run 2:15 last year?

Netwerk Errer

menoscemo wrote: »

Maria is definitely a clear favourite for the women's national title. If her run in Charleville is anything to go by then she is in PB shape.
I think Sergiu might give Freddy a game in the men's. He hasn't been racing much of late so must be training steady....he has the fastest recent PB, didn't he run 2:15 last year?

Yeah, he ran 2.15 for a WC standard, the heat got to him in Moscow and he ran 2.3x. He ran a 64 half in the buildup to that marathon.

66 in Charleville on a blistering fast course in September suggests he isn't in that kinda shape now. Still, should be a great battle between them but Freddy gets my vote for his sheer consistency.

wgtomblin

Netwerk Errer wrote: »

Yeah, he ran 2.15 for a WC standard, the heat got to him in Moscow and he ran 2.3x. He ran a 64 half in the buildup to that marathon.

66 in Charleville on a blistering fast course in September suggests he isn't in that kinda shape now. Still, should be a great battle between them but Freddy gets my vote for his sheer consistency.

2.15 was in April 2012.
Ran 2.17 in May this year.

tunguska

menoscemo wrote: »

Maria is definitely a clear favourite for the women's national title.

I believe she's not just after the national title. Wouldn't bet against her either.

pconn062

tunguska wrote: »

I believe she's not just after the national title. Wouldn't bet against her either.

Overall race win? Suppose it depends on who they have coming in from abroad.

tunguska

pconn062 wrote: »

Overall race win? Suppose it depends on who they have coming in from abroad.

Yeah definitely depends on who'll be drafted in on the day, but from what I understand anyway, she's going for the outright win.

youngrun

Lindie Naughton had a piece in the Herald last night on the marathon

Sokolov is back who won 2007
Peter Brandon of Athenry AC And Kenya



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Another change to the race sees overseas elite runners making a return after an absence of a year.

Among those running are Aleksey Sokolov, from Russia, winner in 2006 and 2007, when he set the course record of 2:09.07.

Among the African entries are Peter Brandon Somba, winner of the Connemara Half Marathon earlier this year, and Raheny's Freddy Keron Sittuk.

Leading the women's entry are Russian Marina Kovaleva, Kenyan Esther Wanjiru Macharia, and 19-year-old Ethiopian Meseret Agama Godana.

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Netwerk Errer

youngrun wrote: »

Lindie Naughton had a piece in the Herald last night on the marathon

Sokolov is back who won 2007
Peter Brandon of Athenry AC And Kenya



Copied in below cant post link

Another change to the race sees overseas elite runners making a return after an absence of a year.

Among those running are Aleksey Sokolov, from Russia, winner in 2006 and 2007, when he set the course record of 2:09.07.

Among the African entries are Peter Brandon Somba, winner of the Connemara Half Marathon earlier this year, and Raheny's Freddy Keron Sittuk.

Leading the women's entry are Russian Marina Kovaleva, Kenyan Esther Wanjiru Macharia, and 19-year-old Ethiopian Meseret Agama Godana.

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Sokolov will have no competition so. I'm not going to lie, I'm pretty dissapointed with the field. Peter Brandon will most likely be running with the National championship runners. Sokolov will probably win by 5+ minutes.

youngrun

He may not be in 2007 nick - if you look up IAAF stats he has a 2.17 this year in Zurich and 212 in 2012, still probably a bit ahead of the Irish lads . May be one or two more overseas runners one would expect?

pistol_75

Netwerk Errer wrote: »

Sokolov will have no competition so. I'm not going to lie, I'm pretty dissapointed with the field. Peter Brandon will most likely be running with the National championship runners. Sokolov will probably win by 5+ minutes.

Sokolov ran his most recent Marathon in April in Zurich in a time of 2:17:10. Before that his last Marathon was in 2012 where he ran 2:13:01

His best times have all come in Dublin but he is unlikely to be in the shape he was when he set those times?

TFBubendorfer

Netwerk Errer wrote: »

Sokolov will have no competition so. I'm not going to lie, I'm pretty dissapointed with the field. Peter Brandon will most likely be running with the National championship runners. Sokolov will probably win by 5+ minutes.

If they get some half-decent elites then people complain about the money spent on some unknown African runners that nobody cares about.

If they don't then they get complaints about the elite field being disappointing.

Either way, they can't win.

Netwerk Errer

TFBubendorfer wrote: »

If they get some half-decent elites then people complain about the money spent on some unknown African runners that nobody cares about.

If they don't then they get complaints about the elite field being disappointing.

Either way, they can't win.

True. A bit harsh on the African nobody cares about though.

I just always like to see some of the best in the world in action. I really don't think that much money is given to those elites in appearance fees and travel in the grand scheme of things.

Hammid el mouaziz ran the Great Limerick run last year and his asking price was €1000, he ran 28:xx. Look at the great Ireland run. They brought in Bekele and Japhet Korir over the last few years. Imagine the cost of them.

It's probably only a drop in the ocean to bring in a few 2.10 guys for the DCM.

tang1

The Great Run series is non comparable to the Dublin Marathon, its a series of races run all over the world and obviously would have alot more funds available to it to pay elites like Bekele etc to run. The Dublin marathon nearly has to beg for funds to stage the race let alone pay top dollar to elite runners to come race it. Unless a big multi-national backs DCM you'll never see likes of the Mutais, Kipsang or Bekele come race Dublin.