Club Championships

MfMan · 08-12-2014 10:38pm

feargale wrote: »

@ keane & homerjay, fair comment and very valid points especially by homerjay. I would just say that Kilcormac exceeded expectations yesterday and that can do Offaly no harm. Homerjay rightly says that Offaly hurling is at its lowest ebb in 30 years, but believe it or not it has been lower. Between 1929 and 1969 Offaly failed to reach a Leinster final, and to my knowledge won nothing then, not even a Leinster junior, bar a Division Two final against Kerry in 1966. If you check the records from 1930 to 1960 I think you will find about two Offaly hurlers featuring in a Railway Cup final. A combination of events in the sixties created a springboard: the coming of a committed hurling man to the Birr school, the rise of St. Rynaghs and Paddy Molloy who was then one of the country's best hurlers.
I would say that for a county with a handful of clubs, one of them doing well is more significant for the county than it would be for Kilkenny, Cork or Tipp.
A county as small as Offaly was never going to maintain the stunning successes of 1980-1997. That county may produce a good crop once every 30 years or so, and then needs additional factors favouring it, including luck. Next time Offaly will have some tradition to sustain it, unlike the last time.
Of course, as you suggest, the competitive nature of hurling has changed. I'm not sure where that is going to lead us.

You seem to be no stranger to condescension. I wonder why.

I would argue that Kilcormac didn't play up to expectation; they reached the AI final more recently than B/S and the likes of Currams didn't reach his best standard. Ballyhale were well there for the taking, (conditions didn't drag them down to KK's level), and would have been had the opposition had a better freetaker.

Mountainlad · 08-12-2014 10:47pm

MfMan wrote: »

I would argue that Kilcormac didn't play up to expectation; they reached the AI final more recently than B/S and the likes of Currams didn't reach his best standard. Ballyhale were well there for the taking, (conditions didn't drag them down to KK's level), and would have been had the opposition had a better freetaker.

Wouldn't agree to be honest. Talent wise there is no doubt who the better side was. The fact they were only a good free taker from winning is definitely exceeding general expectation.

Always_Running · 14-12-2014 5:05pm

Very predictable one sided Leinster final. St Vincent's rarely had to get out of 2nd gear. Corofin v St Vincent's in the All Ireland semi final next in what should be a close contested match.

Frankie Lee · 14-12-2014 10:44pm

The Tipperary SFC final is only on next weekend, that is an utter disgrace. The GAA should fine county boards for every week a championship goes beyond the end of October. They are treating players with utter contempt with that sort of fixture organising.

Kerrydude1981 · 14-12-2014 11:34pm

How was the Galway Hurling Championship held up?

I see the final was won today by Gort.

washman3 · 14-12-2014 11:36pm

Frankie Lee wrote: »

The Tipperary SFC final is only on next weekend, that is an utter disgrace. The GAA should fine county boards for every week a championship goes beyond the end of October. They are treating players with utter contempt with that sort of fixture organising.

And the Galway hurling final played today, even though the county senior team exited the championship in late July.
As long as the players are willing to put up with this s###e the county boards will change nothing.
Here in Limerick, the semi finals of the U-21 premier football are on next weekend with the final sometime between Christmas and the new year.
All games have been played under lights so far.
Consider that we had the finest summer in 25 years and we now expect these young men to play in December.......

washman3 · 14-12-2014 11:43pm

Kerrydude1981 wrote: »

How was the Galway Hurling Championship held up?

I see the final was won today by Gort.

They're late every year but this year was worse because 1 team played an illegal player in the 1/4 finals, were thrown out, and appealed, and eventually ran out of appeals.
Little wonder they cannot unite to win an AI senior hurling title.!!

BTW. was the North Kerry Football final played yet, and who is involved.?

Kerrydude1981 · 15-12-2014 10:39am

washman3 wrote: »

They're late every year but this year was worse because 1 team played an illegal player in the 1/4 finals, were thrown out, and appealed, and eventually ran out of appeals.
Little wonder they cannot unite to win an AI senior hurling title.!!

BTW. was the North Kerry Football final played yet, and who is involved.?

The North Kerry "Jingle Bells" Championship is still going,there was a draw in the quarter finals between Brosna and St Senans the winners play Listowel Emmets in the Semi Final while the other Semi Final is between Beale and Ballyduff,

Utopia Parkway · 15-12-2014 2:06pm

Kerrydude1981 wrote: »

How was the Galway Hurling Championship held up?

I see the final was won today by Gort.

Illegal player played, then appeals, etc. Held up the entire championship for 2 months.

homeofhurling · 15-12-2014 4:31pm

it seems Dublin clubs are winning the club leinster as easy as they are winning the inter county leinster finals.

DoctaDee · 15-12-2014 4:44pm

homeofhurling wrote: »

it seems Dublin clubs are winning the club leinster as easy as they are winning the inter county leinster finals.

Looks like Vins are gonna have to be split in 2 .. only those born between Collins & Griffith Ave need apply :rolleyes: ..

Dirty Dingus McGee · 21-12-2014 4:46pm

http://hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=229360

Brilliant stuff the Tipperary football final ends in a draw so we could potentially be back to the War of Independence days when finals were played a couple of years behind schedule.

Dirty Dingus McGee · 21-12-2014 4:47pm

homeofhurling wrote: »

it seems Dublin clubs are winning the club leinster as easy as they are winning the inter county leinster finals.

In all honesty I'd say the Dublin senior championship is actually tougher to win than the Leinster championship.

Mountainlad · 21-12-2014 4:47pm

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

http://hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=229360

Brilliant stuff the Tipperary football final ends in a draw so we could potentially be back to the War of Independence days when finals were played a couple of years behind schedule.

Or, theyll play it 3 weeks time.

Dirty Dingus McGee · 21-12-2014 4:56pm

Mountainlad wrote: »

Or, theyll play it 3 weeks time.

I was exaggerating a bit but it's still mad that a county final for 2014 will not be played in 2014.

Fr Tod Umptious · 21-12-2014 4:59pm

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

http://hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=229360

Brilliant stuff the Tipperary football final ends in a draw so we could potentially be back to the War of Independence days when finals were played a couple of years behind schedule.

The famous 1992 clash between Aherlow and Nenagh (I think) was this time of year.

Frankie Lee · 21-12-2014 5:06pm

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

The famous 1992 clash between Aherlow and Nenagh (I think) was this time of year.

That was only an u21 game but was in January.

TiggerInParis · 21-12-2014 6:21pm

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

Brilliant stuff the Tipperary football final ends in a draw so we could potentially be back to the War of Independence days when finals were played a couple of years behind schedule.

Replay is next Sunday so it'll be a dry christmas for the lads. I'd imagine there'll be extra-time if necessary.

Borders no.2 · 21-12-2014 7:53pm

I had to laugh when I heard it ended in a draw. Farcical stuff. The goings on with the hurling in Galway and football in Wexford and Tipperary amongst others has been absolutely shambolic. Donegal stopped up everything but at least everyone knew that was the case and they got on with it then when the year was over. It means the Donegal champions had effectively no chance in Ulster but at least the players knew where they stood.

People wonder why players go off playing soccer or rugby, the answer is simple, with those games 99% of the time you know when and who you will be playing and you can arrange a normal life around that. Until the GAA get a grip on this and take matters outside the control of interest groups and county managers more of this is what we'll be seeing.

washman3 · 21-12-2014 11:14pm

Limerick U-21 premier football semi-final was played today, and ended in a draw.!!!
Replay is on St.Stephens day with the final fixed for New Years Eve...
Read elsewhere that all the clubs agreed to starting this championship in October.

Fireball07 · 16-03-2015 10:55pm

So, who's going to win?

Ompala · 16-03-2015 11:01pm

Fireball07 wrote: »

So, who's going to win?

Have a sneaky feeling that Kilmallock will just do enough in the hurling myself, no idea about the football.....

Borders no.2 · 17-03-2015 1:19am

As a neutral in the hurling would love to see Kilmallock winning it. Ballyhale are a great club with some excellent players but would be great for the competition to see a new team from a new county winning it, and it would inject some confidence into Limerick for the summer.

As a Galway man, hope Corofin win the football, they were impressive in the semi-final and deserving winners over St. Vincent's. Fancy them to win tomorrow but Slaughtneil were quite impressive against Austin Stacks and any team who wins an Ulster club championship are not to be taken lightly.

Orizio · 17-03-2015 7:46am

Any chance we'll get a link for this later?

dastardly00 · 17-03-2015 9:11am

Orizio wrote: »

Any chance we'll get a link for this tonight?

Huh?

Orizio · 17-03-2015 9:26am

dastardly00 wrote: »

Huh?

Sorry, thinking in the wrong timezone. I mean a link for the hurling later.

falan · 17-03-2015 11:45am

Orizio wrote: »

Sorry, thinking in the wrong timezone. I mean a link for the hurling later.

Here's a link for those abroad..

https://gaago.rte.ie/fixture/H-CLUBF/

Inc pre and post match analysis..
Enjoy.

Fireball07 · 17-03-2015 3:04pm

Serious work by Graeme there.

BENDYBINN · 17-03-2015 3:07pm

Perfectly good goal

Dirty Dingus McGee · 17-03-2015 3:07pm

How the hell was that last foul not a yellow card.

dirkmeister · 17-03-2015 3:17pm

Harsh yellow for Colin considering his hurl was at the other side of Paudie O Brien's head?!?!

Fireball07 · 17-03-2015 3:21pm

Graeme Mulcahy is ridiculously talented.

Mushy · 17-03-2015 3:27pm

These wides are killing Kilmallock

Fireball07 · 17-03-2015 3:34pm

Kilmallock are hitting some amount of wides. I know that literally every one of those went over against Cratloe and the likes of Paudie O'Brien is normally one of the best long-range score-takers in the country. Maybe it's big game nerves getting to them but they have to switch it up when it's not working.

Get the ball to Graeme Mul... they're crucifying themselves.

Fennelly goal was well-taken but too easy, looked like Kilmallock one should have stood too though. Not out of the game but they'll need to cop on.

Dan Chipowski · 17-03-2015 3:37pm

Hit some awful wides, very poor use of the ball too. Think the ref has been a little harsh on them too, to be honest.

Always_Running · 17-03-2015 3:43pm

Poor hurling final hopefully a improvement in the 2nd half. In football I fancy Corofin but the Derry men at 6/1 to win by 1 to 3 points is very tempting odds.

nice_guy80 · 17-03-2015 3:54pm

poor game

Dan Chipowski · 17-03-2015 3:56pm

Absolutely awful game as a spectacle.

nice_guy80 · 17-03-2015 3:59pm

TJ Reid wins some amount of frees from high tackles.

Always_Running · 17-03-2015 4:03pm

Gort with 0-7 in 1984 the lowest score in All ireland hurling final. Two more scores for limerick lads to beat that unwanted record.

nice_guy80 · 17-03-2015 4:05pm

they have played into Ballyhale's hands all day

lumping high balls into the forwards

Kilmallock are playing as individuals. Like a bunch of lads who met before the game

Dan Chipowski · 17-03-2015 4:06pm

Portaferry must be a fairly bad team to lose to this lot.

17-03-2015 4:06pm

Must have missed 12 of their last 14 shots now.
They dried up around 4 points and have about 14 wides now.... Awful stuff.
May as well not even bother going for another point as they need about 5 goals now.

keane2097 · 17-03-2015 4:07pm

Uncompetitive hurling is pretty much as bad as uncompetitive any other sport really isn't it

dastardly00 · 17-03-2015 4:08pm

Poor game as a spectacle. Kilmallock have hit some awful wides. However Ballyhale won't care about that. They haven't had to get out of 2nd gear to win this. They are simply on a much higher lever than Kilmallock today.

nice_guy80 · 17-03-2015 4:08pm

15 wides...

nice_guy80 · 17-03-2015 4:09pm

needed that 20 mins ago

dastardly00 · 17-03-2015 4:10pm

At least that makes the scoreline a bit more respectable..

dastardly00 · 17-03-2015 4:18pm

FT: Ballyhale 1-18 Kilmallock 1-6

MOTM is Joey Holden.

6th All-Ireland title for Ballyhale.

Fireball07 · 17-03-2015 4:18pm

Very disappointing for Kilmallock, they're not as bad as that. But while they were hitting wide after wide in the first half, Ballyhale were tacking on scores without evening playing that well.

And then in the 2nd half, Ballyhale cleaned them out in the backs completely, TJ Reid grew more and more and Kilmallock just didn't bring any intensity really.

Awful shame but they didn't deserve anything with that performance.

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