2016 US Presidential Race - Mod Warning in OP

KingBrian2

Trump is back to winning ways. Lost Iowa won New Hampshire and North Carolina even the Pope has found time to complain about Trump. So he is getting his message out there. His media campaign is far more successful than Jeb Bush, Ted Cruz or Rubio. He is definitely looking like a strong favourite to be the GOP candidate this election time. The polls and delegates are pulling in his favour. He is going full steam ahead.

Amerika

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But you wont find them online Amerika, you will find them at a gunshow, if you want to buy an AR-15 with no ID you simply drive to the nearest gun show and buy one, do you understand now? Do you need it explained to you further?

Have you been to gun shows? I've been to numerous. There are usually never private sellers there selling any guns, let alone AR-15's. I would tend to say just about everyone selling guns (made after 1898) at gun shows are federally licensed dealers. The other vendors are accessory dealers and hunting resorts. And never have I seen an AR-15 for sale from a private individual at one. You see if someone is to sell a gun privately at gun shows, they are not likely not a "casual" seller and therefore must be licensed.

I can't tell from your profile where you are located. If you live in the states, and have not gone to a gun show, please go to one and educate yourself.

Brian?

Amerika wrote: »

Have you been to gun shows? I've been to numerous. There are usually never private sellers there selling any guns, let alone AR-15's. I would tend to say just about everyone selling guns (made after 1898) at gun shows are federally licensed dealers. The other vendors are accessory dealers and hunting resorts. And never have I seen an AR-15 for sale from a private individual at one. You see if someone is to sell a gun privately at gun shows, they are not likely not a "casual" seller and therefore must be licensed.

I can't tell from your profile where you are located. If you live in the states, and have not gone to a gun show, please go to one and educate yourself.

I've been to gun shows in AZ where there were "private sellers" selling any number of ARs.

hatrickpatrick

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I don't see why that would be regarded as disenfranchising, as long as people weren't charged for having their photo taken?

Black Swan

“A person who thinks only about building walls, wherever they may be, and not building bridges, is not Christian,” states Pope Francis about Donald Trump. I wonder to what extent this statement may or may not influence Catholic and Hispanic voters in the November 2016 presidential election, if Trump is nominated by the GOP?

AbusesToilets

Black Swan wrote: »

“A person who thinks only about building walls, wherever they may be, and not building bridges, is not Christian,” states Pope Francis about Donald Trump. I wonder to what extent this statement may or may not influence Catholic and Hispanic voters in the November 2016 presidential election, if Trump is nominated by the GOP?

Great quote from a chap living in a palace surrounded by massive walls.

oscarBravo

AbusesToilets wrote: »

Great quote from a chap living in a palace surrounded by massive walls.

To be fair, his job title is literally "bridge builder".

:pac:

Akrasia

JPNelsforearm wrote: »

Only he doesnt, hes said countless times he'll hire people to do jobs and roles for him, just two or three days ago he said this in reference to hiring negotiators etc to look at trade deals and foreign relations.


This painting of Trump as a buffoon is laughable, hes spent the least to arrive in first. Utterly decimated the presumptive frontrunner Jeb Bush, completely torpedoed his campaign single handedly.

Of course he would hire people, Nobody thinks Trump would be a one man administration

The problem is, his leadership style is to come up with a 'huge' idea and then 'hire some really smart people' and tell them to 'Make it happen'

He doesn't ask them for advice on his big vision, he wants his vision implemented, he wants his employees to figure out all the problems and find ways to get it to work.

Trump Fired his long time associate and campaign advisor last August (Roger Stone says he quit first, but this more typical trump behaviour, You can't quit, you're fired!)

He surrounds himself with yes men and women, people who agree with him, he believes his own intuition and doesn't ever seek out contrary opinion

He was asked multiple times who he consults on matters of foreign policy and military strategy, he avoided the question, mumbled about watching tv shows and finally gave a name, Col. Jack Jacobs, the problem is, when this was checked, Jacobs said that he had never once discussed military or foreign affairs matters with Trump.

Akrasia

Amerika wrote: »

For starters, most states require valid forms of ID in order to purchase the type of gun depicted in the graphic (AR-15), and most guns for that fact. I know I couldn’t buy one in my state (which has just about an equal number of guns owned - 11.3 million, as population - 12.7 million) without a valid ID and background check. Could you buy an AR-15 in your state without an ID?

The fact that the general public can buy a M16 assault rifle even with ID is a pathetic indictment of the American national psyche.

You treat deadly weapons as though they are hobbies and toys and the biggest children amongst you dress up in army clothes and make believe that they're heroic soldiers fighting for freedom and liberty and apple pie.

That public safety and the lives of your children are put at risk in order to pander to the fantasies of people who still act like children shows how far the U.S. nation needs to grow up.

If you want to play guns, use toy guns, airsoft or whatever.

ancapailldorcha

Back on topic please. There is another thread in this forum about gun control.

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Black Swan

Recent NBC/WSJ national polls suggest variability among top 3 Republican presidential candidates depending upon when polls were taken, but only being descriptive percentages, I am uncertain how to explain or predict the results:

Poll Taken | Trump | Cruz | Rubio
25-29 Oct | 23 | 10 | 11
6-9 Dec | 27 | 22 | 15
9-13 Jan | 33 | 20 | 13
14-16 Feb | 26 | 28 | 17

The most recent February poll shows Trump and Cruz differences falling within the 3.5 margin of error; i.e., too close to call.

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KingBrian2

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Cruz is a worse candidate than Trump, He supports returning to the death penalty. American states already have death penalties and a high rate of incarceration so should he get into power your looking at a very dangerous & conservative President.

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KingBrian2

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Oh I don't but the GOP are going all the way back to the "tired old tough on crime" policies. The legalisation and or prevention of abusing drugs won't gain much traction in those circles.

And as for the point I was making it still stands. Cruz would be at the furthest end of the spectrum when it comes to all sorts of crime. Not sure if it would include white collar crime but he is too conservative to be made president in my opinion. If all Americans states were like Texas or Mississippi he might win.

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Inquitus

I am in the US at the moment, watched a lot of coverage, and to be fair Bush, Kasich and Rubio all look like they have what it takes to be president on the republican side, Kasich seems the best of them from what I have seen, but its hard to see how anyone bar Rubio wins the nomination out of those 3.

Were I an American I would be a democrat, as most of us would be, and I really like what Bernie has to say, he comes across well, and American needs a "Socialist" revolution.

I spend a good bit of time in the US these days and it's not a great country any more, wealth inequity, the lack of a social safety net and the proliferation of shít jobs that don't pay a living wage make for a pretty grim country when you move away from the big cities on the East or West Coast.

Trump is pure comedy gold, he'll fix everything and never has to tell anyone how, he does have a charisma, I'll give him that, I watched a townhall with him in SC on MSNBC during the week and while he comes across well, and has a certain charm, all his answers are vacuous and give little insight into what a Trump presidency may look like beyond "I'll fix everything", "I'll build a big wall", "I am a great dealmaker"

MSNBC is on channel 8 in the hotel and Fox News on channel 9, it's very amusing flicking between the coverage when one goes to adverts to get the polar opposite view on everything!

Manach

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Legal writers like Jonathan Simon have said similar. I've listened to his course on Itune U and read his text on Prison history in the US. He puts across the case of the use of prison as a means more geared towards social control than punishment of crime.

eire4

Manach wrote: »

Legal writers like Jonathan Simon have said similar. I've listened to his course on Itune U and read his text on Prison history in the US. He puts across the case of the use of prison as a means more geared towards social control than punishment of crime.

Not to mention in some states the prisons have been privatized so there is much work done by said companies in making sure there are plenty of inmates and laws to make sure it stays that way. Nothing like a for profit prison system!

Fr Tod Umptious

Inquitus wrote: »

I am in the US at the moment, watched a lot of coverage, and to be fair Bush, Kasich and Rubio all look like they have what it takes to be president on the republican side, Kasich seems the best of them from what I have seen, but its hard to see how anyone bar Rubio wins the nomination out of those 3.

Were I an American I would be a democrat, as most of us would be, and I really like what Bernie has to say, he comes across well, and American needs a "Socialist" revolution.

I spend a good bit of time in the US these days and it's not a great country any more, wealth inequity, the lack of a social safety net and the proliferation of shít jobs that don't pay a living wage make for a pretty grim country when you move away from the big cities on the East or West Coast.

Trump is pure comedy gold, he'll fix everything and never has to tell anyone how, he does have a charisma, I'll give him that, I watched a townhall with him in SC on MSNBC during the week and while he comes across well, and has a certain charm, all his answers are vacuous and give little insight into what a Trump presidency may look like beyond "I'll fix everything", "I'll build a big wall", "I am a great dealmaker"

MSNBC is on channel 8 in the hotel and Fox News on channel 9, it's very amusing flicking between the coverage when one goes to adverts to get the polar opposite view on everything!

Why do you assume that most of us would be Democrat ?

We have an election coming up in this country.
The biggest party is going to be to the right of the spectrum in Ireland, and so is the second biggest.
We may even have right/right coalition for the first time ever.
There are a large number of left wing parties and left wing individuals running, but none are going to get near being the biggest party.

So why do you think that if we had a similar political environment as the US we would be going to the left ?.
Or why do you assume that an Irish person in the US would be a Democrat ?

Bernie Sanders is the US equivalent of Joe Higgins or Ruth Coppenger.

RobertKK

I would never vote Democrat if I was American with a vote.
My US relations vote Republican.

Fr Tod Umptious

RobertKK wrote: »

I would never vote Democrat if I was American with a vote.
My US relations vote Republican.

There is an assumptions in Ireland that Irish Americans are all Democrat voters.

This does not take into account that many older Irish Americans are very conservative and do not like the Democrats stand on things like abortion and gay marriage.

Certainly most would be Democrat and it goes way back to the days when the Democrats were pro slavery, anti black etc, but as the Democrat party has evolved so too have many Irish Americans and ditched them for being too radical

Brian?

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

Inquitus wrote: »

I am in the US at the moment, watched a lot of coverage, and to be fair Bush, Kasich and Rubio all look like they have what it takes to be president on the republican side, Kasich seems the best of them from what I have seen, but its hard to see how anyone bar Rubio wins the nomination out of those 3.

Were I an American I would be a democrat, as most of us would be, and I really like what Bernie has to say, he comes across well, and American needs a "Socialist" revolution.

I spend a good bit of time in the US these days and it's not a great country any more, wealth inequity, the lack of a social safety net and the proliferation of sh t jobs that don't pay a living wage make for a pretty grim country when you move away from the big cities on the East or West Coast.

Trump is pure comedy gold, he'll fix everything and never has to tell anyone how, he does have a charisma, I'll give him that, I watched a townhall with him in SC on MSNBC during the week and while he comes across well, and has a certain charm, all his answers are vacuous and give little insight into what a Trump presidency may look like beyond "I'll fix everything", "I'll build a big wall", "I am a great dealmaker"

MSNBC is on channel 8 in the hotel and Fox News on channel 9, it's very amusing flicking between the coverage when one goes to adverts to get the polar opposite view on everything!

Why do you assume that most of us would be Democrat ?

We have an election coming up in this country.
The biggest party is going to be to the right of the spectrum in Ireland, and so is the second biggest.
We may even have right/right coalition for the first time ever.
There are a large number of left wing parties and left wing individuals running, but none are going to get near being the biggest party.

So why do you think that if we had a similar political environment as the US we would be going to the left ?.
Or why do you assume that an Irish person in the US would be a Democrat ?

Bernie Sanders is the US equivalent of Joe Higgins or Ruth Coppenger.

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FG are to the left of the US Democratic Party. Bernie Sanders revolutionary proposals are espoused by pretty much every Irish political party.

Fr Tod Umptious

Brian? wrote: »

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FG are to the left of the US Democratic Party. Bernie Sanders revolutionary proposals are espoused by pretty much every Irish political party.

I'm aware that the relative difference between how far left or right a party is in Ireland compared to parties in the US.

But during the boom this country was very happy to embrace tax cuts and the banking deregulation that allowed us easy access to cheap money.
That would be pretty right leaning if you ask me.

Brian?

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

Brian? wrote: »

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FG are to the left of the US Democratic Party. Bernie Sanders revolutionary proposals are espoused by pretty much every Irish political party.

I'm aware that the relative difference between how far left or right a party is in Ireland compared to parties in the US.

But during the boom this country was very happy to embrace tax cuts and the banking deregulation that allowed us easy access to cheap money.
That would be pretty right leaning if you ask me.

Add your reply here.

If you're aware of the relative positions why did you try to use FG as a comparison? Most FG voters wouldn't vote for the GOP. The GOP are too far to the right. How do you think the GOP would do with the old age pension, bus passes, child benefit and funding the HSE? They'd eliminate it all

People voting for tax cuts doesn't make them right wing, it makes them easily bought.

Fr Tod Umptious

Brian? wrote: »

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If you're aware of the relative positions why did you try to use FG as a comparison? Most FG voters wouldn't vote for the GOP. The GOP are too far to the right. How do you think the GOP would do with the old age pension, bus passes, child benefit and funding the HSE? They'd eliminate it all

People voting for tax cuts doesn't make them right wing, it makes them easily bought.

I did not mention FG, you did.

My point was that we in Ireland have always voted for right to right of centre, and Christian for that matter, parties even though there are a plethora of left and left of centre parties out there also.

It has been discussed here before about this notion we seem to have in this country that the US should in someway move to a European social democratic society, while we ourselves are well to the right of such model.

The poster I was replying suggested that the US needs a "socialist revolution".

Would she/he think that we in Ireland need a "socialist revolution" and if not why not ?

Brian?

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

Brian? wrote: »

Add your reply here.

If you're aware of the relative positions why did you try to use FG as a comparison? Most FG voters wouldn't vote for the GOP. The GOP are too far to the right. How do you think the GOP would do with the old age pension, bus passes, child benefit and funding the HSE? They'd eliminate it all

People voting for tax cuts doesn't make them right wing, it makes them easily bought.

I did not mention FG, you did.

My point was that we in Ireland have always voted for right to right of centre, and Christian for that matter, parties even though there are a plethora of left and left of centre parties out there also.

It has been discussed here before about this notion we seem to have in this country that the US should in someway move to a European social democratic society, while we ourselves are well to the right of such model.

The poster I was replying suggested that the US needs a "socialist revolution".

Would she/he think that we in Ireland need a "socialist revolution" and if not why not ?

We live in the type of Social Democracy Sanders aspires to, so no.

Again: in US terms, Ireland has never had a right wing government. You've already agreed that our most right wing party is to the left of the Democrats so why keep bringing it up?

Fr Tod Umptious

Brian? wrote: »

We live in the type of Social Democracy Sanders aspires to, so no.

Again: in US terms, Ireland has never had a right wing government. You've already agreed that our most right wing party is to the left of the Democrats so why keep bringing it up?

Did not mean to thank you there and don't know how to un thank on the phone

My point is the one I have tried to make many times around here.

The poster suggested that most would vote Democrat if we were in America.
And she/he is not the first or the last to make such a suggestion.

My point in that that is a total over simplification.
We Irish are far more fond of conservative, low tax, light touch regulation society than many are willing to admit.
We proved it in 1997, 2002 and 2007.
And as a result we would be likely to vote GOP more than many are willing to admit.

Mary Harney was right when she said we were closer to Boston than Berlin.

Brian?

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

Brian? wrote: »

We live in the type of Social Democracy Sanders aspires to, so no.

Again: in US terms, Ireland has never had a right wing government. You've already agreed that our most right wing party is to the left of the Democrats so why keep bringing it up?

Did not mean to thank you there and don't know how to un thank on the phone

My point is the one I have tried to make many times around here.

The poster suggested that most would vote Democrat if we were in America.
And she/he is not the first or the last to make such a suggestion.

My point in that that is a total over simplification.
We Irish are far more fond of conservative, low tax, light touch regulation society than many are willing to admit.
We proved it in 1997, 2002 and 2007.
And as a result we would be likely to vote GOP more than many are willing to admit.

Mary Harney was right when she said we were closer to Boston than Berlin.

Add your reply here.

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

Brian? wrote: »

We live in the type of Social Democracy Sanders aspires to, so no.

Again: in US terms, Ireland has never had a right wing government. You've already agreed that our most right wing party is to the left of the Democrats so why keep bringing it up?

Did not mean to thank you there and don't know how to un thank on the phone

My point is the one I have tried to make many times around here.

The poster suggested that most would vote Democrat if we were in America.
And she/he is not the first or the last to make such a suggestion.

My point in that that is a total over simplification.
We Irish are far more fond of conservative, low tax, light touch regulation society than many are willing to admit.
We proved it in 1997, 2002 and 2007.
And as a result we would be likely to vote GOP more than many are willing to admit.

Mary Harney was right when she said we were closer to Boston than Berlin.

Add your reply here.

Mary Harney is wrong. In the above years we voted for tax cuts. What else did we vote for? Increased spending on social programs. Huge increases. We also voted for increased pay for public sector workers. None of which the GOP would offer in a million years .