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2016 US Presidential Race - Mod Warning in OP

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,176 ✭✭✭Amerika


    Brian? wrote: »
    Amerika wrote: »
    Does Julian Assange have all of Hillary Clinton's emails? The WikiLeaks founder claims they have emails of Clinton's and enough information that would warrant an indictment, if the legal process isn t corrupted by the US attorney general, Loretta Lynch, who was appiointed by Barack Obama.

    WikiLeaks released a filed labeled WIKILEAKS INSURANCE. It is theorized that it is a huge downloadable file put out there in advance of a some "big announcement," and exists if US Governmental efforts to keep Clinton's emails from becoming public are successful. Supposedly it is a deadman's switch, where downloaders get an encryption key, but need a second key before they can unlock the file, and a type of insurance for Wikileaks to get the information out, no matter what.

    http://www.investors.com/politics/commentary/clinton-email-scandal-imminent-document-leak-enough-to-indict-her/

    This will be a nightmare for the Clinton campaign, regardless whether the media hides it on page 14, ignores it completely, or for once puts journalistic integrity over their own ideology.

    The aul media bias eh? The number one rated news network in the US is flagrantly pro GOP.
    It's being reported that an attempt on Donald Trump's life happened at a Las Vegas rally. Michael Steven Sandford, who it's being reported holds a UK drivers license, acknowledged to police he went for an officer's gun so he could kill Trump. He also went to a Las Vegas gun range the day before the rally to learn how to shoot a handgun.

    http://bigstory.ap.org/article/06e5955c55a94a8bbb142adeca597213/authorities-man-vegas-rally-said-he-wanted-kill-trump

    Can you imagine the media frenzy if this would have happened to Clinton or Sanders? But it's Trump, so no big deal, eh?


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    Amerika wrote: »
    It's being reported that an attempt on Donald Trump's life happened at a Las Vegas rally. Michael Steven Sandford, who it's being reported holds a UK drivers license, acknowledged to police he went for an officer's gun so he could kill Trump. He also went to a Las Vegas gun range the day before the rally to learn how to shoot a handgun.

    http://bigstory.ap.org/article/06e5955c55a94a8bbb142adeca597213/authorities-man-vegas-rally-said-he-wanted-kill-trump

    Can you imagine the media frenzy if this would have happened to Clinton or Sanders? But it's Trump, so no big deal, eh?

    No one who uses three names should be allowed near any US president or presidential candidate.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,510 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Amerika wrote: »
    It's being reported that an attempt on Donald Trump's life happened at a Las Vegas rally. Michael Steven Sandford, who it's being reported holds a UK drivers license, acknowledged to police he went for an officer's gun so he could kill Trump. He also went to a Las Vegas gun range the day before the rally to learn how to shoot a handgun.

    http://bigstory.ap.org/article/06e5955c55a94a8bbb142adeca597213/authorities-man-vegas-rally-said-he-wanted-kill-trump

    Can you imagine the media frenzy if this would have happened to Clinton or Sanders? But it's Trump, so no big deal, eh?

    You quote my post, but this isn't actually a response to my post. You constantly cry media bias, yet Foxnews is the highest rated news network in the US. Foxnews is flagrantly pro GOP. What do you disagree with?

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • Registered Users Posts: 11,956 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    The Trump assassination attempt is currently on the homepages of BBC News and even MSNBC (with a small headline on CNN), I'm not seeing any cover-up.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    Amerika wrote: »
    It's being reported that an attempt on Donald Trump's life happened at a Las Vegas rally. Michael Steven Sandford, who it's being reported holds a UK drivers license, acknowledged to police he went for an officer's gun so he could kill Trump. He also went to a Las Vegas gun range the day before the rally to learn how to shoot a handgun.

    http://bigstory.ap.org/article/06e5955c55a94a8bbb142adeca597213/authorities-man-vegas-rally-said-he-wanted-kill-trump
    http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/19/politics/trump-rally-gun-police-officer/index.html
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jun/20/donald-trump-assassination-attempt-las-vegas-rally
    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/donald-trump-assassination-attempt-man-8241971
    http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/06/20/michael_sandford_grabbed_officer_s_gun_said_he_wanted_to_kill_donald_trump.html
    http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/authorities-man-vegas-rally-said-he-wanted-kill-trump-n595876
    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/police-teen-arrested-at-las-vegas-rally-said-he-wanted-to-kill-donald-trump/
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/pa/article-3651529/UK-teenager-held-Las-Vegas-sought-kill-Donald-Trump.html
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/06/20/man-tried-to-grab-cops-gun-to-kill-trump-at-las-vegas-rally-authorities-say.html?intcmp=hpbt3
    http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-36582770
    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/teen-grab-cops-gun-wanted-kill-trump-court/story?id=40001729
    ...and just for good measure
    http://www.rte.ie/news/2016/0620/796985-donald-trump-us-election/
    Can you imagine the media frenzy if this would have happened to Clinton or Sanders? But it's Trump, so no big deal, eh?
    What, like back in January when gunshots were fired at Bernie Sanders' campaign HQ? I Google'd that one too... the first page results were lasvegasnow.com , weeklystandard.com, lasvegassun.com, Gateway Pundit, inquistr.com... and an the actual statement from the incident from Sanders' official website. Compare that to the outlets covering the Trump story.

    I'm also pretty certain Clinton has had multiple attempted assassinations during her career.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 28 Jawfin


    Billy86 wrote: »
    I'm also pretty certain Clinton has had multiple attempted assassinations during her career.

    Two in 2012 alone, one in Israel, one in Iran.
    You can almost hear the resounding chorus that festers in the comments section of the MailOnline's article about it... "Leftist hypocrites", "Double standards", references to Jo Cox, some vague mumblings trying to take the moral high ground.
    Lots of lovely capital letters, too, in case you forgot who TRUMP was.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,776 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    There was also that hand grenade with Bush in Georgia.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,900 ✭✭✭InTheTrees


    Trump's campaign continues to flounder.

    His attempts at fundraising are worrying the GOP, and he's currently far behind Hillary. If the GOP cant attract donors to help with senate and congressional races they risk losing congress as well.

    http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/donald-trump-vs-hillary-clinton-campaigns-filings-show-huge-fundraising-n596081


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,176 ✭✭✭Amerika


    You quote my post, but this isn't actually a response to my post. You constantly cry media bias, yet Foxnews is the highest rated news network in the US. Foxnews is flagrantly pro GOP. What do you disagree with?
    And I find it perplexing that you found the need to use Fox News as a response to my overall comment on the media.

    [font=Open Sans, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Also, it's rather bizarre how the Left somehow considers it a FAIR FIGHT in Fox News (and I ll throw in the Wall Street Journal for good measure VERSUS CBS News, NBC News, ABC News, MSNBC, CNN, CNBC, NPR, PBS, The New York Times, The Washington Post, USA Today, the LA Times, the New York Daily News, the Boston Globe, the San Francisco Chronicle, the Chicago Tribune, the Huffington Post, Slate, Rolling Stone, Mother Jones, Reuters, The Examiner, Politico, Google News, BBC America, and a whole host of others. [/font]
    The Trump assassination attempt is currently on the homepages of BBC News and even MSNBC (with a small headline on CNN), I'm not seeing any cover-up.
    No one said anything about a cover-up. The comment was made regarding the media frenzy we would be witnessing if an attempt was made on Clinton or Sander's life. [font=Open Sans, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]I've read the coverage of the attempt on Trump s life. A few paragraphs that seemingly were shared between all the major news outlets and done with the hard hitting journalistic dedication equal to that of the annual Santa visit to the local shopping mall. I think there would be little doubt we would be subject to round-the-clock stories about an attempt on a democrat, ad nauseum, with pictures of the evildoer shown every five minutes, in depth reporting, a hoard of expert criminologists and psychologists analyzing the assailants motives, and news crews jetting off to the UK to interview the attacker s family and friends[/font]
    I'm also pretty certain Clinton has had multiple attempted assassinations during her career.
    I remember one in particular. Hillary Clinton told of a hair-raising tale of a trip she made to Bosnia in March 1996.

    [font=Open Sans, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]"I remember landing under sniper fire. There was supposed to be some kind of a greeting ceremony at the airport, but instead we just ran with our heads down to get into the vehicles to get to our base." [/font]

    [font=Open Sans, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]She wouldn't lie to us, would she? (wink, wink, nudge, nudge)[/font]

    [font=Open Sans, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]There is even video of this hair-raising event. I'll post it if you like. :)[/font]


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,618 ✭✭✭Mr Freeze


    This Trump assassination attempt is up there with the attempt on Dana's life. :pac:

    I'm just surprised that he isn't making a huge deal out of it, (yet).


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 284 ✭✭Its dead Jim


    I would have thought the whole assassination "attempt" thing would be a fairly common occurrence.

    I feel I'm being generous for considering it an attempt. If the cops don't shoot you for trying to take their gun then you couldn't have been that much of a threat to them. Never even got around the the assassination part.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    Amerika wrote: »
    And I find it perplexing that you found the need to use Fox News as a response to my overall comment on the media.http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/19/politics/trump-rally-gun-police-officer/index.html
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jun/20/donald-trump-assassination-attempt-las-vegas-rally
    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/donald-trump-assassination-attempt-man-8241971
    http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/06/20/michael_sandford_grabbed_officer_s_gun_said_he_wanted_to_kill_donald_trump.html
    http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/authorities-man-vegas-rally-said-he-wanted-kill-trump-n595876
    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/police-teen-arrested-at-las-vegas-rally-said-he-wanted-to-kill-donald-trump/
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/pa/article-3651529/UK-teenager-held-Las-Vegas-sought-kill-Donald-Trump.html
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/06/20/man-tried-to-grab-cops-gun-to-kill-trump-at-las-vegas-rally-authorities-say.html?intcmp=hpbt3
    http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-36582770
    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/teen-grab-cops-gun-wanted-kill-trump-court/story?id=40001729
    ...and just for good measure
    http://www.rte.ie/news/2016/0620/796985-donald-trump-us-election/

    [font=Open Sans, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Also, it's rather bizarre how the Left somehow considers it a FAIR FIGHT in Fox News (and I ll throw in the Wall Street Journal for good measure VERSUS CBS News, NBC News, ABC News, MSNBC, CNN, CNBC, NPR, PBS, The New York Times, The Washington Post, USA Today, the LA Times, the New York Daily News, the Boston Globe, the San Francisco Chronicle, the Chicago Tribune, the Huffington Post, Slate, Rolling Stone, Mother Jones, Reuters, The Examiner, Politico, Google News, BBC America, and a whole host of others. [/font]
    Sorry, but a Man United fan might as well claim everyone who doesn't 100% support Man United and everything they do, are out to get them.

    If you can show examples of all of those sources being highly biased against Trump (note: not cheerleading on his behalf is not being highly biased against him) you might have some credibility on that matter. I am talking about citing actual information and data here by the way, not empty talking points with no actual analysis of their coverage.
    No one said anything about a cover-up. The comment was made regarding the media frenzy we would be witnessing if an attempt was made on Clinton or Sander's life. [font=Open Sans, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]I've read the coverage of the attempt on Trump s life. A few paragraphs that seemingly were shared between all the major news outlets and done with the hard hitting journalistic dedication equal to that of the annual Santa visit to the local shopping mall. I think there would be little doubt we would be subject to round-the-clock stories about an attempt on a democrat, ad nauseum, with pictures of the evildoer shown every five minutes, in depth reporting, a hoard of expert criminologists and psychologists analyzing the assailants motives, and news crews jetting off to the UK to interview the attacker s family and friends[/font]
    Again, I've shown you 10-12 links from reputable sources both in the US and outside of it. You seem to have chosen to ignore them, or just entirely missed them.

    I have also shown you the incident from January where bullets were fired at Sanders' campaign HQ. Now I didn't expect you to know that because not many people did - it wasn't covered much in the news. But that kind of directly flies in the face of absolutely everything you are saying and by your own logic shows a media bias for Trump, doesn't it? How many well known news outlets covered that?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,176 ✭✭✭Amerika


    I would have thought the whole assassination "attempt" thing would be a fairly common occurrence.

    I feel I'm being generous for considering it an attempt. If the cops don't shoot you for trying to take their gun then you couldn't have been that much of a threat to them. Never even got around the the assassination part.

    If the exact same thing happened to Clinton, the media would be debating for weeks about the evil lurking in the hearts of men and fretting over why someone would be so deranged as to prevent the election of the first female US president. Trump got barely a cursory mention. And why no mention in just about everything posted from the media regarding the assassination attempt that Sandford is an illegal alien? Where are the renewed discussions over border control and immigration policy? IMO, our political media thinks that people wanting to kill Trump aligns with their own world view... So nothing to see here, please move along.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,176 ✭✭✭Amerika


    I have also shown you the incident from January where bullets were fired at Sanders' campaign HQ.
    I remember it, and as I recall Sanders wasn't in the campaign HQ at the time? ;)

    Again, I've shown you 10-12 links from reputable sources both in the US and outside of it. You seem to have chosen to ignore them, or just entirely missed them.


    I read most of them, and I feel it only supports my claim regarding the media, which you apparently chose to ignore.
    If you can show examples of all of those sources being highly biased against Trump (note: not cheerleading on his behalf is not being highly biased against him) you might have some credibility on that matter. I am talking about citing actual information and data here by the way, not empty talking points with no actual analysis of their coverage.
    The Washington Post ran the headline last week, "Donald Trump suggests President Obama was involved with Orlando shooting." A blatant lie and proof of media bias against Trump.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    Amerika wrote: »
    Was Sanders in the campaign HQ at the time? ;)
    Could well have been, as they found the bullets after.

    Why the almost instinctive need to downplay one attempted act of terrorism, while (incorrectly) giving out about people downplaying acts of terrorism? Hopefully this isn't the case, but it makes it seem like you don't really mind terrorism at all, so long as it's the "right" kind of terrorists. Which makes me curious to see how many Trump fans want tighter controls on Britons entering the country, in the wake of both this and what happened last week in England.
    The Washington Post ran the headline last week, "Donald Trump suggests President Obama was involved with Orlando shooting." A blatant lie and proof of media bias against Trump.
    That's called reporting the facts, you will need to try harder. If Trump doesn't like people reporting what he says, maybe he shouldn't say it.

    http://globalnews.ca/news/2759155/donald-trump-criticized-for-implying-barack-obama-connected-to-orlando-shooting/
    "Look, we're led by a man that either is not tough, not smart, or he's got something else in mind," Trump said in a lengthy interview on Fox News early Monday morning. "And the something else in mind — you know, people can't believe it. People cannot, they cannot believe that President Obama is acting the way he acts and can't even mention the words 'radical Islamic terrorism.' There's something going on. It's inconceivable. There's something going on."

    In that same interview, Trump was asked to explain why he called for Obama to resign in light of the shooting and he answered, in part: "He doesn't get it or he gets it better than anybody understands — it's one or the other, and either one is unacceptable."

    ...

    "Well there are a lot of people that think maybe he doesn't want to get it," Trump said. "A lot of people think maybe he doesn't want to know about it. I happen to think that he just doesn't know what he's doing, but there are many people that think maybe he doesn't want to get it. He doesn't want to see what's really happening. And that could be."


  • Registered Users Posts: 33 ConorDon97


    Personally, I think Clinton has long been chosen to become President by the 0.00001% elite of American society. They need to wake up and stop voting for the lesser of the two evils. External candidates like Jill Stein and others are finally gaining more support, but ultimately I think Clinton has already won. She will uphold everything the elite want her to uphold.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 284 ✭✭Its dead Jim


    Amerika wrote: »
    If the exact same thing happened to Clinton, the media would be debating for weeks about the evil lurking in the hearts of men and fretting over why someone would be so deranged as to prevent the election of the first female US president. Trump got barely a cursory mention. And why no mention in just about everything posted from the media regarding the assassination attempt that Sandford is an illegal alien? Where are the renewed discussions over border control and immigration policy? IMO, our political media thinks that people wanting to kill Trump aligns with their own world view... So nothing to see here, please move along.

    A quick Google shows there has been 5 assassination attempts against Obama. I have hear of very few of them and they didn't get weeks of coverage. Why would a presidential candidate get more airtime than the actual president?

    Going by what has happened in the past instead of pretend alternate universes shows that most of the time they get nowhere close to being successful and get little airtime. Mentioned once and everyone moves on.

    Stanford is European, can't go on about how many illegals aren't Mexican while trying to build a wall. This highlights how little the wall would do.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,045 ✭✭✭Christy42


    ConorDon97 wrote: »
    Personally, I think Clinton has long been chosen to become President by the 0.00001% elite of American society. They need to wake up and stop voting for the lesser of the two evils. External candidates like Jill Stein and others are finally gaining more support, but ultimately I think Clinton has already won. She will uphold everything the elite want her to uphold.

    I am pretty sure more than 31/32 people want Clinton to be president...

    Heck even her only family and friends should amount to more than that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 33 ConorDon97


    Christy42 wrote: »
    I am pretty sure more than 31/32 people want Clinton to be president...

    Heck even her only family and friends should amount to more than that.

    Of course, it is very easy to indoctrinate a population as the US media has managed to do so successfully. Clinton has been implicated in so many illegal and disgusting activities that it would be impossible for her to run only the mainstream media are silent and portraying her in a way that is appealing to so many people.

    Not only that, but there are strong indications that on top of those undemocratic superdelegates, there is also something suspicious about the democratic voting system.

    The differences between CNN exit polls and actual results really makes you think...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,176 ✭✭✭Amerika


    And here is something more about media bias, which will be on display in the next few weeks... which ya'll can see for yourselves. This time they’re in cahoots with Hillary Clinton and serving as her shill. Gary Byrne, a secret service member during the time the Clinton’s were in the White House, wrote a book titled “Crisis Of Character’ which is due out next week and reveals what he observed protecting the Clintons. It is very critical of Hillary Clinton, and paints a picture of her as a deranged madwoman. It is already a top seller at Amazon for June. Historically, when these top selling political books come out, news media sources have the author on their programs to talk about the book. Hillary is working with the media to not have him appear on any broadcast network, and apparently the media is bowing to the demands of Clinton on the matter. Politico is supposedly going a step further to stay in bed with Clinton and is writing an attack piece on Byrne's credibility, even though he has served with honor and distinction in federal law enforcement for around thirty year


    And you think the media would be cautious now that they’ve been exposed over it, and reverse course? HELL NO! Ideology over integrity, baby! No wonder nobody here trusts the media anymore.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,176 ✭✭✭Amerika


    Billy86 wrote: »
    Could well have been, as they found the bullets after.

    Why the almost instinctive need to downplay one attempted act of terrorism, while (incorrectly) giving out about people downplaying acts of terrorism? Hopefully this isn't the case, but it makes it seem like you don't really mind terrorism at all, so long as it's the "right" kind of terrorists. Which makes me curious to see how many Trump fans want tighter controls on Britons entering the country, in the wake of both this and what happened last week in England.
    The attack on the building got plenty of coverage. I just wish the media would be fair in their reporting... nothing more. But good luck with that.

    That's called reporting the facts, you will need to try harder. If Trump doesn't like people reporting what he says, maybe he shouldn't say it.

    http://globalnews.ca/news/2759155/donald-trump-criticized-for-implying-barack-obama-connected-to-orlando-shooting/
    "Look, we're led by a man that either is not tough, not smart, or he's got something else in mind," Trump said in a lengthy interview on Fox News early Monday morning. "And the something else in mind — you know, people can't believe it. People cannot, they cannot believe that President Obama is acting the way he acts and can't even mention the words 'radical Islamic terrorism.' There's something going on. It's inconceivable. There's something going on."

    In that same interview, Trump was asked to explain why he called for Obama to resign in light of the shooting and he answered, in part: "He doesn't get it or he gets it better than anybody understands — it's one or the other, and either one is unacceptable."

    ...

    "Well there are a lot of people that think maybe he doesn't want to get it," Trump said. "A lot of people think maybe he doesn't want to know about it. I happen to think that he just doesn't know what he's doing, but there are many people that think maybe he doesn't want to get it. He doesn't want to see what's really happening. And that could be."

    Thanks for providing the information. Proof that the Washington Post lied and showed bias in their reporting... unless, of course, you are of the mind to report as facts what your brain somehow perceives as hidden in the words and "written between the lines"... or that aliens do exist.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Mr Freeze wrote: »
    I'm just surprised that he isn't making a huge deal out of it, (yet).

    I'm not, it's one thing for Trump to talk about evil Muslims and keeping out poor "ethnic types" with high walls it's another to attack the British and by extension the WASP population!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,176 ✭✭✭Amerika


    A quick Google shows there has been 5 assassination attempts against Obama. I have hear of very few of them and they didn't get weeks of coverage. Why would a presidential candidate get more airtime than the actual president?

    Going by what has happened in the past instead of pretend alternate universes shows that most of the time they get nowhere close to being successful and get little airtime. Mentioned once and everyone moves on.

    Stanford is European, can't go on about how many illegals aren't Mexican while trying to build a wall. This highlights how little the wall would do.

    How many of those attempts on Obama came close to a person going for a officer's gun in close proximity to the president/candidate?

    And a proper wall would be highly effective in deterring illegal aliens from crossing into the US at the southern border. This is already on display where an effective wall has already been built on the border. This instance demonstrates the need for better monitoring of legal foreign visitors who overstay their visas.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    Amerika wrote: »
    The attack on the building got plenty of coverage. I just wish the media would be fair in their reporting... nothing more. But good luck with that.
    I did a quick search and couldn't find it getting a lot of coverage on national media, though I may have missed it. I pointed out national media on the Trump story to you, so feel free to link to as many national media stories of the Sanders' HQ shooting as you can. In this day and age, most national media outlets picks up on a story that a celebrity is having a bad hair day and might as well cover what the leading candidates had for breakfast, so there should be plenty.
    Thanks for providing the information. Proof that the Washington Post lied and showed bias in their reporting... unless, of course, you are of the mind to report as facts what your brain somehow perceives as hidden in the words and "written between the lines"... or that aliens do exist.
    Don't pretend you don't see what he is trying to do here, because that's not even remotely believable. Yes, Trump absolutely alluded to Obama having played a role, and the text is right there. That you didn't actually tackle the text says it all.

    If I wrote - and just to be very direct, I am using this as an example and not as an accusation - "the poster Amerika doesn't comment much on paedophilia threads much. He's obviously not tough on it, not smart enough to get it, or he has something else in mind. And the something else in mind - you knw, other posters can't believe it.Posters cannot, they cannot believe that Amerika is acting the way he acts and can't even mentions the words 'kiddie fiddler'. There's something going on. It's inconceivable. There's something going on."

    ...I would expect to be banned in an instant, and possibly permanently banned. That's without me even going into further depth, that...

    Amerika the poster doesn't get paedophilia, or he gets it better than anybody understands — it's one or the other, and either one is unacceptable."

    ...and finally...

    Well there are a lot of people that think maybe Amerika doesn't want to get it, a lot of people think he doesn't want to know about it. I happen to think he just doesn't know what he is doing, but there are as many other posts on boards that think maybe he doesn't want to get it. He doesn't want to see the damage it causes to those children. And that could be.



    You have yet to give a good example of what you are claiming.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,176 ✭✭✭Amerika


    Billy86 wrote: »
    I did a quick search and couldn't find it getting a lot of coverage on national media, though I may have missed it. I pointed out national media on the Trump story to you, so feel free to link to as many national media stories of the Sanders' HQ shooting as you can. In this day and age, most national media outlets picks up on a story that a celebrity is having a bad hair day and might as well cover what the leading candidates had for breakfast, so there should be plenty.


    Don't pretend you don't see what he is trying to do here, because that's not even remotely believable. Yes, Trump absolutely alluded to Obama having played a role, and the text is right there. That you didn't actually tackle the text says it all.

    If I wrote - and just to be very direct, I am using this as an example and not as an accusation - XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX



    You have yet to give a good example of what you are claiming.

    Be careful my friend. Writing horrible personal attacks against a poster, and then hiding behind the weak argument of “If I wrote...” still puts those images in the minds of readers. The mods might take umbrage with your post. Perhaps it would be better to delete it before they come across it. Just looking out for you.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,510 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Amerika wrote: »
    Be careful my friend. Writing horrible personal attacks against a poster, and then hiding behind the weak argument of “If I wrote...” still puts those images in the minds of readers. The mods might take umbrage with your post. Perhaps it would be better to delete it before they come across it. Just looking out for you.

    I think this is exactly his point. Trump heavily implied that Obama had a vested interest in Islamic terrorism in a this exact way. Racist dog whistle complete.

    I'll get back to you on media bias later. I'm not letting that one go, but I'm only on a phone now.

    Good to have you back, by the way. The other pro GOP posters just aren't up to your standards at all.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • Registered Users Posts: 33 ConorDon97


    Looks like divisional American politics is working! Divide and conquer.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    Amerika wrote: »


    Be careful my friend. Writing horrible personal attacks against a poster, and then hiding behind the weak argument of “If I wrote...” still puts those images in the minds of readers. The mods might take umbrage with your post. Perhaps it would be better to delete it before they come across it. Just looking out for you.
    Look, either my post offended you in which case I apologise - I pointed out at the start of it that is was an example. However, it also means that you fully acknowledge that Trump was alluding to Obama having some involvement in the Florida shooting.

    And in that case, you can go and find us a new example of what you were talking about, and not try to cry wolf so often in future.

    If you do not believe that Trump alluded to anything of the sort, then you also have no reason to be upset by my post.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,176 ✭✭✭Amerika


    Brian? wrote: »
    I think this is exactly his point. Trump heavily implied that Obama had a vested interest in Islamic terrorism in a this exact way. Racist dog whistle complete.

    I'll get back to you on media bias later. I'm not letting that one go, but I'm only on a phone now.

    Good to have you back, by the way. The other pro GOP posters just aren't up to your standards at all.

    No, Trump only noted that Obama is weak on fighting terrorism at home.

    Thanks Brian?. Took a break from boards.ie and have been doing battle with the liberal hoard on another message board recently. But the moderating standards are lacking there regarding personal attacks (well, only when it comes from the Left, that is), and I’m taking a break from it. So I’m back, for a while anyway, to do battle with you again... a worthy opponent. And this election gives us plenty to battle over. Just wish I had someone better to represent the GOP this time around. :(

    And LOL over the “standards” line. Is that a nice way of saying ‘Definition of Stupid: Knowing the truth, seeing the truth, but still believing the lies?’ (just kidding)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 284 ✭✭Its dead Jim


    Amerika wrote: »
    How many of those attempts on Obama came close to a person going for a officer's gun in close proximity to the president/candidate?

    And a proper wall would be highly effective in deterring illegal aliens from crossing into the US at the southern border. This is already on display where an effective wall has already been built on the border. This instance demonstrates the need for better monitoring of legal foreign visitors who overstay their visas.

    They at least managed to gather the necessary tools to kill Obama. They were already one step ahead of this guy. Common sense around guns may be in short supply in America but at least they have prepared for the inevitable event of a person trying to grab a cops gun.

    The trump supporters will go back to their dank maymays nobody will care in a week.


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