920xt

tunney · 01-10-2014 10:02am #1

https://buy.garmin.com/en-GB/GB/sports/running/forerunner-920xt/prod137024.html

tunney · 01-10-2014 10:03am

GLONASS

mossym · 01-10-2014 10:23am

tunney wrote: »

GLONASS

GPS Enabled - Yes
GLONASS - Yes

so i wonder does it really have both, or are they assuming most people will use GPS as a catch all phrase for a positioning mechanism.

if it's only GLONASS it'll be an expensive toy if the russians pull the funding for it again.

now, to try and find out if the minimum pool length has been dropped from the 20m on the 910 to the 15m on the garmin swim. big factor for those of us stuck in a 17m pool

BennyMul · 01-10-2014 10:39am

Why in the name of all that's wonderful does anyone want to see email, text or other alerts on their watch in a 1" square

mossym · 01-10-2014 10:43am

BennyMul wrote: »

Why in the name of all that's wonderful does anyone want to see email, text or other alerts on their watch in a 1" square

cause Samsung and apple said it was a good idea....

seriously though, wait till strava start sending out text alerts to tell you of an upcoming segment, and what the KOM time is on it. actually if linked to your phone it doesn't even need a text. you'll get a warning coming up to it, and real time tracking against the KOM.

tunney · 01-10-2014 10:46am

mossym wrote: »

GPS Enabled - Yes
GLONASS - Yes

so i wonder does it really have both, or are they assuming most people will use GPS as a catch all phrase for a positioning mechanism.

if it's only GLONASS it'll be an expensive toy if the russians pull the funding for it again.

now, to try and find out if the minimum pool length has been dropped from the 20m on the 910 to the 15m on the garmin swim. big factor for those of us stuck in a 17m pool

Both. GPS accuracy is not consistent globally.

It will have the drill function of the swim which is nice.

mossym · 01-10-2014 10:48am

tunney wrote: »

Both. GPS accuracy is not consistent globally.

It will have the drill function of the swim which is nice.

neither is glonass though right? i thought it was better in northern parts, but worsened as you went south, as the russians focused mainly on home?

some sort of averaging maybe

tunney · 01-10-2014 10:48am

mossym wrote: »

cause Samsung and apple said it was a good idea....

seriously though, wait till strava start sending out text alerts to tell you of an upcoming segment, and what the KOM time is on it. actually if linked to your phone it doesn't even need a text. you'll get a warning coming up to it, and real time tracking against the KOM.

Coupled with the IQ framework we will see this.

tunney · 01-10-2014 10:50am

mossym wrote: »

neither is glonass though right? i thought it was better in northern parts, but worsened as you went south, as the russians focused mainly on home?

some sort of averaging maybe

"Given the current GPS and GLONASS constellations there is now a clear advantage when using GPS and GLONASS together for high precision positioning in mobile applications where there are obstructions to the sky. The GPS and GLONASS receivers are able to maintain RTK Integer at times when GPS-only receivers cannot. The dual-frequency GPS and GLONASS receivers are able to resolve ambiguities faster. "

GLONASS coverage
http://www.oxts.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/600_GLONASS_Coverage_Sep10.gif

Okay the coverage aspect isn't huge, the locks without clear skies is.

MojoMaker · 01-10-2014 10:52am

Much nicer & neater looking package than the 910XT but at £150 premium over the outgoing model at the moment it would want to have some really useful additional bells & whistles. Maybe the 910 will start dropping below £200 now?

mossym · 01-10-2014 10:52am

tunney wrote: »

Coupled with the IQ framework we will see this.

given the ability to transmit data outside of the profiles, if someone developed an ant+ tire pressure sensor, you could remove one of the variabilities of turbo trainers and correct for different tire pressures. this would make estimating power etc a lot more feasible on a turbo.

irrelevant with a pm anyway but it indicates the possibilities. the non profile transfer could be very very sweet. i missed the significance when you mentioned it first

tunney · 01-10-2014 11:00am

mossym wrote: »

given the ability to transmit data outside of the profiles, if someone developed an ant+ tire pressure sensor, you could remove one of the variabilities of turbo trainers and correct for different tire pressures. this would make estimating power etc a lot more feasible on a turbo.

This exist AFAIK.

Where it would be GREAT is with computrainers and similar that can be influenced by tyre pressure changing due to heat. Change the offset without calibration based on tyre pressure on the fly......

mossym wrote: »

irrelevant with a pm anyway but it indicates the possibilities. the non profile transfer could be very very sweet. i missed the significance when you mentioned it first

Its okay, not as if you work in this industry.

mossym · 01-10-2014 11:09am

tunney wrote: »

This exist AFAIK.

Where it would be GREAT is with computrainers and similar that can be influenced by tyre pressure changing due to heat. Change the offset without calibration based on tyre pressure on the fly......

should be straight forward enough i'd have thought if the pressure sensors exist.

tunney wrote: »

Its okay, not as if you work in this industry.

actually i don't anymore.

but even then, what i was working on was a long way away from ant+

tunney · 01-10-2014 11:11am

mossym wrote: »

should be straight forward enough i'd have thought if the pressure sensors exist.

Although Racemate are not known for moving quickly on software.

mossym · 01-10-2014 11:15am

would they need to? it's ant+, so they should be transmitting the raw data anyway, it's computrainer would have to write the software i'd have thought

tunney · 01-10-2014 11:33am

Connect IQ will be supported in a firmware upgrade in "early 2015".

tunney · 01-10-2014 11:33am

https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/into-sports/running/forerunner-920xt/prod137024.html

3-5 weeks if ordered from US site, so its available(ish)

sconhome · 01-10-2014 11:58am

tunney wrote: »

3-5 weeks if ordered from US site, so its available(ish)

Expecting 5-6 weeks later in the EU market. Hopefully enough time for any issues to become evident & resolved.

ChickenBalls · 01-10-2014 12:32pm

Timed well with DC Rainmaker's Review - very convenient

http://www.dcrainmaker.com/2014/10/fr920xt-triathlon-details.html

mossym · 01-10-2014 1:46pm

17m pool length support confirmed. sign me up

pointer28 · 01-10-2014 1:49pm

Looks deadly if it works properly.

BTH · 01-10-2014 2:08pm

ChickenBalls wrote: »

Timed well with DC Rainmaker's Review - very convenient

http://www.dcrainmaker.com/2014/10/fr920xt-triathlon-details.html

I started reading that and got bored. Why does he always drone on for so bloody long? And he said at the start that this wasn't an in depth review. :eek:

mossym · 01-10-2014 2:10pm

BTH wrote: »

I started reading that and got bored. Why does he always drone on for so bloody long? And he said at the start that this wasn't an in depth review. :eek:

gear heads like detail...

sconhome · 01-10-2014 2:15pm

BTH wrote: »

I started reading that and got bored. Why does he always drone on for so bloody long? And he said at the start that this wasn't an in depth review. :eek:

Anything more that 'GO' & 'STOP' is wasted on you, isn't it?

On an aside I see there is also a Garmin 920xt thread over 'there' >>

mossym · 01-10-2014 2:27pm

is that the hole they are digging to get rid of all the unwanted polars now that there is a real/working alternative on the market?

(like the atari one from years ago
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_video_game_burial)

sconhome · 01-10-2014 2:43pm

mossym wrote: »

is that the hole they are digging to get rid of all the unwanted polars now that there is a real/working alternative on the market?

No the inference was about looking into a hole in the ground!!

Can't have one thread without a pop at me and my Polar

mossym · 01-10-2014 2:58pm

AKW wrote: »

No the inference was about looking into a hole in the ground!!

Can't have one thread without a pop at me and my Polar

you had to know it was coming. if it wasn't me you know where it would have come from...:)

tunney · 01-10-2014 2:59pm

mossym wrote: »

you had to know it was coming. if it wasn't me you know where it would have come from...:)

For something like this I just rang the shop.....

bryangiggsy · 02-10-2014 6:58am

€539 in Ireland .... $ 499 (€383 in the States) ... Shameful

tunney · 02-10-2014 8:35am

bryangiggsy wrote: »

€539 in Ireland .... $ 499 (€383 in the States) ... Shameful

AFAIK it's numerically the same price for the same packages. Obviously ie $539 including new strap. the currency changes things. Us Euros subsidise the yanks. Much like the dubs and the culchies

mossym · 02-10-2014 8:51am

tunney wrote: »

Much like the dubs and the culchies

says the crowd looking to divert the f%$king river so they can have a wash.

920xt

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