Black stereotypes

Robsweezie

you know the ones....

-black fathers don't support their children
-they love fried chicken, kool aid and watermelon
-women are portrayed as loud, opinionated and named laquisha,shaniqua etc.
-they have trouble with the police

point is, are these humorous or racist? what side of the fence are you on? we often see these kindve things played out in social media in the form of memes and vines and to be honest I would find them harmless and quite funny, so long as they don't promote hatred or intolerance.

Waitsian

Robsweezie wrote: »

point is, are these humorous or racist?

They are stupid and racist and not in the least bit funny. And they do promote hatred and intolerance.

catallus

Can fences even be racialist?

What?

Pewpewpew!

CaptainInsano

Shut it down.

krudler

Well all stereotypes are based on truth in some form. It's a stereotype Irish people drink a lot? why? Because loads of Irish people drink a lot. Yeah it's a cliche, doesn't make it 100% true for every Irish person though.
Shockingly, some black people do like fried chicken, there's a Popeyes right near me that is testament to this (I love it too it's bloody deliclious and way nicer than KFC), and yes some black women can be loud an opinionated, seen it loads of times. Does mean it's true for every black person? nope, but you'd want to be a special type of offence seeker to say these things don't happen. They do. It's where the stereotype originated from.

FunLover18

Hold the Cheez Whiz

This thread will end well.

P.S. - Who doesn't like fried chicken?

Calm Down Brah

Hold the Cheez Whiz wrote: »

This thread will end well.

P.S. - Who doesn't like fried chicken?

Vegetarians, I hear.

ceadaoin.

Robsweezie wrote: »

you know the ones....

-black fathers don't support their children
-they love fried chicken, kool aid and watermelon
-women are portrayed as loud, opinionated and named laquisha,shaniqua etc.
-they have trouble with the police

point is, are these humorous or racist? what side of the fence are you on? we often see these kindve things played out in social media in the form of memes and vines and to be honest I would find them harmless and quite funny, so long as they don't promote hatred or intolerance.

Those are pretty ignorant stereotypes and not harmless at all. Maybe they are funny if you are a bigot who likes to make fun of black people but other than that I fail to see the humour.

Cookie_Monster

Robsweezie wrote: »

-black fathers don't support their children
-they love fried chicken, kool aid and watermelon
-women are portrayed as loud, opinionated and named laquisha,shaniqua etc.

I would be of the opinion that those stereotype relate to a general area of the southern states rather than blacks in particular.

Calm Down Brah

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

I would be of the opinion that those stereotype relate to a general area of the southern states rather than blacks in particular.

That's a stereotype of a stereotype...

krudler

The levels of faux outrage from people in this thread will be marvellous.

Robsweezie

im far from a bigot, and I don't go around making any kind of jokes towards any race, I was raised better than that. Shame the stuck up PC brigade are out in force though...regardless of race it's important we all learn to laugh at ourselves, and dismiss stereotypes as just that...mere stereotypes unrelated to reality. Often you'll see the ones partaking in these memes and vines are black people THEMSELVES. And power to them. If you're ignorant enough to believe in these exaggerations then that's another story. I personally don't. I will admit some of it is annoying and clichéd/unoriginal.

brandnewaward

its astounding in sydney the amount of people ask me ( out of ignorance , not badness) are us irish still blowing each other up.......funnily enough , its only asians that ask that

marketty

Black fellas have big mickeys.

What a terrible prejudiced stereotype to have hanging over you.

Cookie_Monster

brandnewaward wrote: »

its astounding in sydney the amount of people ask me ( out of ignorance , not badness) are us irish still blowing each other up.......funnily enough , its only asians that ask that

they're just distracting you with silly questions while they try to steal your stuff

Karl Stein

Robsweezie wrote: »

Shame the stuck up PC brigade are out in force though..

That's racist against the the PC brigade.

gladrags

Irish stereotypes

Stupid
Drunks
Always fighting
Red headed
Corrupt
Mad
Great Laugh( craic)
Leprechauns
Fiddlers
Sad

Amazingfun

marketty wrote: »

Black fellas have big mickeys.

What a terrible prejudiced stereotype to have hanging over you.

It isn't true anyways :cool::

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sashafierce

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beano345

"They love friend chicken"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pyW6w5B7Aw

Ghost Buster

Robsweezie wrote: »

you know the ones....

-black fathers don't support their children
-they love fried chicken, kool aid and watermelon
-women are portrayed as loud, opinionated and named laquisha,shaniqua etc.
-they have trouble with the police

point is, are these humorous or racist? what side of the fence are you on? we often see these kindve things played out in social media in the form of memes and vines and to be honest I would find them harmless and quite funny, so long as they don't promote hatred or intolerance.

Stupid and doubly racist seeing as this is an exclusively African American stereotype you are using. Black people are across the globe you know....

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BoJack Horseman

Ghost Buster wrote: »

Stupid and doubly racist seeing as this is an exclusively African American stereotype you are using. Black people are across the globe you know....

Meh.... I don't think its racist, as it doesn't imply prejudice or hatred.

Regarding African Americans, the list of stereotypes is pretty on the nose.

Duggy747

I wish 70's jive talk would come back.

Herb Powell

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

Meh.... I don't think its racist, as it doesn't imply prejudice or hatred.

Regarding African Americans, the list of stereotypes is pretty on the nose.

"Black fathers don't support their children" is pretty fuccking nasty in fairness.

I used to get a big kick out of racist jokes when I was younger, because I took them ironically, i.e "Oh jesus, that's awful, lol", "There are people who really believe this shhit!", but I don't find it funny any more, or even joke with my friends, just because of the sheer amount of (racist) dicckheads who tell these jokes unironically, and use them to actually be offensive. I suppose what I mean is I used to find them funny, and use them as a way to make fun of retarded stereotypes, in a "it's funny cos it's not true" way, but have encountered far too many who enjoy them "because it's true".

Constantly hearing this nasty rubbish also definitely clouds your judgement in real life. So no, not really harmless on the whole, because most people have a hard time seperating the stereotypes from reality.

BoJack Horseman

Herb Powell wrote: »

"Black fathers don't support their children" is pretty fuccking nasty in fairness.

It is, especially when used as a sweeping statement.

It is pretty common though (or was when I was growing up).

allibastor

To be fair, if black people, the same as anyone else, don't want to have a stereotype used they should not promote it themselves.

How many films/songs/TV/comedy shows etc have there been when the black actor/whatever uses the stereotype to promote themselves.

I am an Irish man, I like to drink. I don't take offence when it is used a running gag. Why, we in Ireland promote this image as it is lazy humor.

Calibos

I'm not racist, I'm classist. To my mind, never attribute to race what can be attributed to socio economic background.

When channel surfing and I come across that Detroit based Pawn shop reality show and they are dealing with another gobby black female or male, I don't think to myself, "Bloody gobby black women!" I think bloody gobby knacks. An aussie reality show with a drunken gobby aboriginal? I don't think, "Bloody gobby abo's". I think bloody gobby knacks. Of course there are historical reasons they ended up and are trapped in this socio economic pit and racism is one of the things that perpetuates it in the case of my two examples, but the fact remains that I no more want to interact with them than I would a gobby dublin knack. It has nothing to do with the colour of someones skin and everything to do with the way a person acts.

The One Doctor

Robsweezie wrote: »

you know the ones....

-black fathers don't support their children
-they love fried chicken, kool aid and watermelon
-women are portrayed as loud, opinionated and named laquisha,shaniqua etc.
-they have trouble with the police

point is, are these humorous or racist? what side of the fence are you on? we often see these kindve things played out in social media in the form of memes and vines and to be honest I would find them harmless and quite funny, so long as they don't promote hatred or intolerance.

Ummmm.... do you live in the US or Ireland? In Ireland there no very few black stereotypes. You post isn't very relevant to Ireland.

wazky

*The sound of trumpets and horse hooves coming from a distance*

It's the High Horse Brigade and the PC brigade all rolled into one!

wicklowstevo

Robsweezie wrote: »

you know the ones....

-black fathers don't support their children
-they love fried chicken, kool aid and watermelon
-women are portrayed as loud, opinionated and named laquisha,shaniqua etc.
-they have trouble with the police

point is, are these humorous or racist? what side of the fence are you on? we often see these kindve things played out in social media in the form of memes and vines and to be honest I would find them harmless and quite funny, so long as they don't promote hatred or intolerance.

i know a few black (not African ) family that live in my area . i ve known them for years and i can vouch that all this is true ,
one of them are like a stereotype bonanza
father and mother split up
father in jail for murder . two son have done time for various things too, the mother even went to jail for a few weeks a few years ago.
mother and sister loud obnoxious and have African names despite being mostly English and Caribbean.

on the flip side i know black south African guy who is a lovely friendly genuine guy never been in bother as far as i know, one parent house too no father .

so with evidence and facts is it still racist or just a statistical fact ?

Richard Hillman

Robsweezie wrote: »

you know the ones....

-black fathers don't support their children
-they love fried chicken, kool aid and watermelon
-women are portrayed as loud, opinionated and named laquisha,shaniqua etc.
-they have trouble with the police

point is, are these humorous or racist? what side of the fence are you on? we often see these kindve things played out in social media in the form of memes and vines and to be honest I would find them harmless and quite funny, so long as they don't promote hatred or intolerance.

I think theses traits are more to do with poor people. It just happens that in America, a lot of poor people are black.

If you look at Ireland. Skangers dont support their children, they love Chicken nuggets and Skanger women are loud, opinionated and have stupid names. Skangers are also in trouble with police a lot. These people are predominantly white.

The thing that intertwines the social cultural demographic of being a bit rough is that in America, a lot of black people are also poor/rough.

The stereotypical accusations that you highlight above should really just be thrown at the poor rather than just black people.

Billy86

marketty wrote: »

Black fellas have big mickeys.

What a terrible prejudiced stereotype to have hanging over you.

There's... got to be a better way to put that.

CaptainInsano

wicklowstevo wrote: »

i know a few black (not African ) family that live in my area . i ve known them for years and i can vouch that all this is true ,
one of them are like a stereotype bonanza
father and mother split up
father in jail for murder . two son have done time for various things too, the mother even went to jail for a few weeks a few years ago.
mother and sister loud obnoxious and have African names despite being mostly English and Caribbean.

on the flip side i know black south African guy who is a lovely friendly genuine guy never been in bother as far as i know, one parent house too no father .

so with evidence and facts is it still racist or just a statistical fact ?

You never mentioned if they like fried chicken.
I've seen similar situations countless times with white tracksuit wearing scumbags too.

wicklowstevo

CaptainInsano wrote: »

You never mentioned if they like fried chicken.
I've seen similar situations countless times with white tracksuit wearing scumbags too.

i don't know what their feelings on fried chicken are tbh,

ya its a ghetto / scumbag way of life but it does seem to go together with black people regardless of what country they are in . Asians or Arabs do not seem to have the same issues.

danslevent

If you have the time, this is a brilliant article about how certain viral videos play a part in stereotyping black people. It refers to the "ain't nobody got time for that!" and the bed intruder song etc. It is a very interesting article and really made me think.

http://chicagomonitor.com/2013/07/the-re-imagining-of-african-american-stereotypes-in-internet-culture/

Yamanoto

Richard Hillman wrote: »

I think theses traits are more to do with poor people. It just happens that in America, a lot of poor people are black.
....The stereotypical accusations that you highlight above should really just be thrown at the poor rather than just black people.

What of Mexicans or Guatemalans though?

If those fathers are absent from the family home, it's so often because they're busting a gut in a menial job somewhere to provide for those at home. There's undoubtedly some cultural element at play within a sub-section of African-American society, where criminality as a lifestyle choice and inherited dysfunction within the family unit are accepted as the norm.

FortuneChip

Black has been replaced by Orange as the New

Billy86

Yamanoto wrote: »

What of Mexicans or Guatemalans though?

If those fathers are absent from the family home, it's so often because they're busting a gut in a menial job somewhere to provide for those at home. There's undoubtedly some cultural element at play within a sub-section of African-American society, where criminality as a lifestyle choice and inherited dysfunction within the family unit are accepted as the norm.

It's almost like they are a product of their environment or something.

KungPao

Is is racist to call all coloureds "African-American"?

OneArt

KungPao wrote: »

Is is racist to call all coloureds "African-American"?

No it's just silly.

Not all of them are American.

I think coloured is meant to be a racist term now? Gah, can't keep up.

Omackeral

Richard Hillman wrote: »

I think theses traits are more to do with poor people. It just happens that in America, a lot of poor people are black.

If you look at Ireland. Skangers dont support their children, they love Chicken nuggets and Skanger women are loud, opinionated and have stupid names. Skangers are also in trouble with police a lot. These people are predominantly white.

The thing that intertwines the social cultural demographic of being a bit rough is that in America, a lot of black people are also poor/rough.

The stereotypical accusations that you highlight above should really just be thrown at the poor rather than just black people.

This n*gger gets it.

old_aussie

gladrags wrote: »

Irish stereotypes

Stupid
Drunks
Always fighting
Red headed
Corrupt
Mad
Great Laugh( craic)
Leprechauns
Fiddlers
Sad

You omitted the main one.

old_aussie

What ever happened to love thy neighbour

wazky

KungPao wrote: »

Is is racist to call all coloureds "African-American"?

We don't call blonde Irish people Scandinavian-Irish, do we?

Beef Curtains

The fried chicken and the 'sassy black woman who don't need no man' stereotypes are funny and harmless.

The absent fathers and crime rates, when talking about black Americans, are not funny but there is a good deal of truth to it.

KungPao

wazky wrote: »

We don't call blonde Irish people Scandinavian-Irish, do we?

We don't?

Bugger.

nullzero

Calm Down Brah wrote: »

Vegetarians, I hear.

You know what they say about Vegetarians.

Johnny D. Mudd

old_aussie wrote: »

What ever happened to love thy neighbour

They stopped after series 7.

Beef Curtains

marketty wrote: »

Black fellas have big mickeys.

What a terrible prejudiced stereotype to have hanging over you.

But imagine you're average or below average and you score some white chick. She's going to expect you to be hung.