Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014/15

Ken Shamrock

If all of those guys are out for Sunday that leaves us very short in the middle of the park.

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Szcz

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Debuchy-Chambers-Mertesacker-Gibbs

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Flamini-Coq??

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Santi

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Welbz

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Giroud

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Sanchez

Nemeses2050

Bob.Carcass wrote: »

Arsène Wenger has revealed the following team news ahead of the Liverpool game:
on the team news...

There’s a slight chance of Monreal being available and a very slight chance for Walcott. We hope that Oxlade-Chamberlain will be fit. We’ll see that on Saturday.

on Theo Walcott…
He is back in training today [Thursday]. But only today. I might take him, I don’t know yet until he’s back to full training. Let’s see.

on Oxlade-Chamberlain…
That’s what we’ll see on Saturday after a test. He’s not in training at the moment.

on Ospina and Rosicky…
Ospina is back in full training and Rosicky should be back next week.

on Wilshere, Ozil, Koscielny, Ramsey and Arteta…
All out. They’re all progressing as planned.

Have to say We have done alright so far with almost half of the 1st 11 injured this season...some might have played a few games here n there but none of them got a sustained and as soon as they seem to be getting in the groove they get injured

Ken Shamrock

Nemeses2050 wrote: »

Have to say We have done alright so far with almost half of the 1st 11 injured this season...some might have played a few games here n there but none of them got a sustained and as soon as they seem to be getting in the groove they get injured

What's new Nemeses? When's the last time we fielded our strongest 11 for say 5 games straight? I can't remember.

Nemeses2050

Bob.Carcass wrote: »

What's new Nemeses? When's the last time we fielded our strongest 11 for say 5 games straight? I can't remember.

They did play together for a good part last season until Ramsey got injured

Bob.Carcass

Bob.Carcass wrote: »

What's new Nemeses? When's the last time we fielded our strongest 11 for say 5 games straight? I can't remember.

We still haven't played our strongest 11 this season

Ken Shamrock

Deleted User wrote: »

We still haven't played our strongest 11 this season

Szcz
Deb
Cham
Kosc
Gibbs
2 of the 3 Ram/Wils/Art
Ozil
Walco
Sanch
Giroud

That's mine anyway.

Quazzie

Quazzie wrote: »

FYP

I was gonna say exactly that but I knew some of the Arsene fans would bite

Harry Palmr

No idea if this is of any real issue for Arsenal given his total wealth but Usmanov is being devalued by the Roubles collapse

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/dec/18/alisher-usmanov-arsenal-roman-abramovich-chelsea-ruble-russia

byrneg28

Harry Palmr wrote: »

No idea if this is of any real issue for Arsenal given his total wealth but Usmanov is being devalued by the Roubles collapse

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/dec/18/alisher-usmanov-arsenal-roman-abramovich-chelsea-ruble-russia

I THINK, I'm not exactly sure about this please anybody correct me if I'm wrong.

I think it doesn't effect us because he's not the majority shareholder. It means he just has to sell his shares and whoever buys em buys em.

But to a majority shareholder like Abrahmovic. As he is the majority shareholder, he can make the decision if he wishes to get rid of a load of players in order to refund his losses

Pudders

Harry Palmr wrote: »

No idea if this is of any real issue for Arsenal given his total wealth but Usmanov is being devalued by the Roubles collapse

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/dec/18/alisher-usmanov-arsenal-roman-abramovich-chelsea-ruble-russia

He's lost a billion but still has 12/13billion.

No impact as Kroenke controls the club and the tanks have only interest in taking cash out so we were never reliant or benefited from Usmanov.

Nemeses2050

byrneg28 wrote: »

I THINK, I'm not exactly sure about this please anybody correct me if I'm wrong.

I think it doesn't effect us because he's not the majority shareholder. It means he just has to sell his shares and whoever buys em buys em.

But to a majority shareholder like Abrahmovic. As he is the majority shareholder, he can make the decision if he wishes to get rid of a load of players in order to refund his losses

As we're not dependent on our wealthy share-holders for funds...this will have zero effect, infact if his losses get bigger he might sell his holdings to someone else...but from Arsenal's point of view no effect.

Hyzepher

Articles like this are nonsense as big wealthy Russians are unlikely to have a lot of Russian currency. Any assets they have would be largely unaffected unless then were planning to liquidate sometime soon.

Nemeses2050

Hyzepher wrote: »

Articles like this are nonsense as big wealthy Russians are unlikely to have a lot of Russian currency. Any assets they have would be largely unaffected unless then were planning to liquidate sometime soon.

True they don't hold hard cash but it's the valuation of the Assets/shares they hold in Russian businesses whose value has gone down. The 13 billion he owns is not hard cash it's the value of the stakes he holds in various businesses...

jonneymendoza

Nemeses2050 wrote: »

Have to say We have done alright so far with almost half of the 1st 11 injured this season...some might have played a few games here n there but none of them got a sustained and as soon as they seem to be getting in the groove they get injured

United have more injuries and have performed better then us so far

byrneg28

jonneymendoza wrote: »

United have more injuries and have performed better then us so far

http://store.manutd.com/stores/manutd/default.aspx

jonneymendoza

byrneg28 wrote: »

http://store.manutd.com/stores/manutd/default.aspx

???

Nemeses2050

jonneymendoza wrote: »

United have more injuries and have performed better then us so far

United's performance and form has been discussed here to death in the last week..so i'm not going to bring that up again... there performances have been sh**e, they were lucky especially against us and SFC they got all the rub of the green and even against Liverpool they weren't great, if only Sterling had finished the chances.

byrneg28

Are we still in the title race??

Opinions??

Ken Shamrock

Nemeses2050 wrote: »

United's performance and form has been discussed here to death in the last week..so i'm not going to bring that up again... there performances have been sh**e, they were lucky especially against us and SFC they got all the rub of the green and even against Liverpool they weren't great, if only Sterling had finished the chances.

But but you just did??

Ken Shamrock

byrneg28 wrote: »

Are we still in the title race??

Opinions??

I don't think even the most optimistic of posters here could say we are... 4th maybe even 3rd but I think the gap in quality and in points is too much to bridge the gap with the top 2.

Hyzepher

If you rule us out of the title race then you have to also say that Chelsea cannot be caught by anyone. If City or Utd can catch Chelsea then it's feasible that we can as well

tayto lover

Bob.Carcass wrote: »

If all of those guys are out for Sunday that leaves us very short in the middle of the park.

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Szcz

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Flamini-Coq??

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Santi

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Welbz

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Giroud

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Sanchez

Haven't been really impressed with Chambers in the CB position.
I'd have Debuchy there with Chambers or maybe even Bellerin on the right.
Debuchy showed more of a presence in the center last week. He commanded the box better.

Nemeses2050

Bob.Carcass wrote: »

But but you just did??

that's just a overview, not in detail

Nemeses2050

byrneg28 wrote: »

Are we still in the title race??

Opinions??

To be honest 3rd and with a bit of rub of the green probably 2nd but don't think we'll win it.

Ken Shamrock

Hyzepher wrote: »

If you rule us out of the title race then you have to also say that Chelsea cannot be caught by anyone. If City or Utd can catch Chelsea then it's feasible that we can as well

How does that make any sense? City are already 10 points ahead of us, have a bigger squad more top quality players, they've been there and done that. None of ours have. The title race is between City and Chelsea.

Ken Shamrock

tayto lover wrote: »

Haven't been really impressed with Chambers in the CB position.
I'd have Debuchy there with Chambers or maybe even Bellerin on the right.
Debuchy showed more of a presence in the center last week. He commanded the box better.

Debuchy did well against a side that we dominated and they struggled to make chances, it's kind of jumping the gun to now think that he's a good CB and would work against the bigger and better teams.

For me Debuchy has to play RB and that leaves centre between Chambers and Mertesacker and I'd simply prefer Chambers there. He's only young and has a lot to learn but he will grow and improve. Mert seems to be doing the opposite.

tayto lover

Bob.Carcass wrote: »

Debuchy did well against a side that we dominated and they struggled to make chances, it's kind of jumping the gun to now think that he's a good CB and would work against the bigger and better teams.

For me Debuchy has to play RB and that leaves centre between Chambers and Mertesacker and I'd simply prefer Chambers there. He's only young and has a lot to learn but he will grow and improve. Mert seems to be doing the opposite.

Agree on Mert but I think Debuchy has much more experience than Chambers who i didn't like at CB anytime he played there. Debuchy is stronger and not as easily bullied.

jonneymendoza

Nemeses2050 wrote: »

United's performance and form has been discussed here to death in the last week..so i'm not going to bring that up again... there performances have been sh**e, they were lucky especially against us and SFC they got all the rub of the green and even against Liverpool they weren't great, if only Sterling had finished the chances.

there results says otherwise.

5 games they have won mate.

L'prof

byrneg28 wrote: »

Are we still in the title race??

Opinions??

Seriously??? City won the league with 86 points last season. Chelsea could well be in course for 93 points this season. If we win all our games, we can get a maximum of 92. We haven't a prayer!

byrneg28

jonneymendoza wrote: »

there results says otherwise.

5 games they have won mate.

9 in total

6 on the trot actually

jonneymendoza

byrneg28 wrote: »

9 in total

6 on the trot actually

well there you go.

we could hardly even keep a lead for 6mins in most matches let alone come up with a 6 game winning streak

greendom

jonneymendoza wrote: »

well there you go.

we could hardly even keep a lead for 6mins in most matches let alone come up with a 6 game winning streak

Can you back that up or is that just a bit of hyperbole for effect ?

jonneymendoza

greendom wrote: »

Can you back that up or is that just a bit of hyperbole for effect ?

hyperbole effect

But you know what i mean. we are terrible this season.

We can only dream of winning our next 6 league matches

bad2dabone

jonneymendoza wrote: »

hyperbole effect

But you know what i mean. we are terrible this season.

We can only dream of winning our next 6 league matches

Fair enough jonney, but we’ve won our last two scoring 8, conceding 2, we’ve won 5 of our last 6 matches.

DenMan

Balotelli suspended and out of the Arsenal game. He was rested yesterday as a precaution.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/30541432

extra gravy

DenMan wrote: »

Balotelli suspended and out of the Arsenal game. He was rested yesterday as a precaution.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/30541432

That's actually bad news imo, would fear Sterling up front which is where he is likely to start now.

DenMan

extra gravy wrote: »

That's actually bad news imo, would fear Sterling up front which is where he is likely to start now.

Balotelli would have hurt our defense being honest! More so than Sterling as he's physically strong and has a great touch. Him being out is brilliant news!

extra gravy

DenMan wrote: »

Balotelli would have hurt our defense being honest! More so than Sterling as he's physically strong and has a great touch. Him being out is brilliant news!

Pace hurts our defence more and Balotelli hasn't scored a league goal all season...hardly a terrifying opponent right now.

DenMan

extra gravy wrote: »

Pace hurts our defence more and Balotelli hasn't scored a league goal all season...hardly a terrifying opponent right now.

Nullify Gerrard and Henderson passing to Sterling and he's out of the game! We've had three days rest this week too!

http://www.justarsenal.com/why-arsenal-must-make-use-of-liverpool-fatigue/37497?

Its Only Ray Parlour

Man City and Arsenal are the only big teams in the Premiership Balotelli has never scored against.

Quazzie

Its Only Ray Parlour wrote: »

Man City and Arsenal are the only big teams in the Premiership Balotelli has never scored against.

When did he score against City in the EPL?

Its Only Ray Parlour

Quazzie wrote: »

When did he score against City in the EPL?

Read my post carefully.

Quazzie

Its Only Ray Parlour wrote: »

Read my post carefully.

Sneaky little n.

jonneymendoza

bad2dabone wrote: »

Fair enough jonney, but we’ve won our last two scoring 8, conceding 2, we’ve won 5 of our last 6 matches.

decent but not enough. win our next 10 league games and lets talk then.

O and beat monaco to top it off

byrneg28

jonneymendoza wrote: »

decent but not enough. win our next 10 league games and lets talk then.

O and beat monaco to top it off

Realistic

jonneymendoza

Its Only Ray Parlour wrote: »

Read my post carefully.

lol i had to as well as i could not understand his answer and thought umm maybe got it wrong. glad i did not hehe

jonneymendoza

byrneg28 wrote: »

Realistic

thats what fans deserve. we want arsenal to actually improve from last season else his off in many of our books

Ed Winchester

jonneymendoza wrote: »

thats what fans deserve. we want arsenal to actually improve from last season else his off in many of our books

Jonny, you have massively high expectations of the team. I wonder if you'll ever be happy with the club or is your hatred for Wenger all consuming that nothing less than 38 league wins, the CL, the FA Cup and the league cup in one season will do.

You say we can only dream of 6 wins in a row. Yet we have won 5 out of 6 and the one we lost was incredibly unlucky IMO. Thats harsh. You'll only consider 10 wins in a row as the least we deserve. Get real man.

jonneymendoza

10 wins in a row would give us a slight chance to compete for the title mate and that is what everyone wants as progress.

for us to start competing with the best

Ol' Donie

jonneymendoza wrote: »

for us to start competing with the infinte money of the petrodollars

FYP

Sounds reasonable.