Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014/15

Irish Aris

tayto lover wrote: »

Well if he's gone and Sanogo is gone then who's Wenger going to play up front in the Cup tomorrow?

Walcott? Akpom? Campbell?

batistuta9

bad2dabone wrote: »

I'd rather he pushed himself to be a better player because I feel he's a wasted opportunity. His technique and finishing ability are hard to come by. But like wenger said you always get 80% from podolski, if you got 100% it would be world class.

I hope he does well for inter as I like the guy.

after he signed didi hamann called him a lazy player.
wonder if that's what he meant instead of the 'doesn't track back' etc. lazy

gosplan wrote: »

I think that between the rumour of the row last week and the back and forth with Inter, Pod's played his last game.

Anyone know what the supposed injury is?

Dissappointing that we couldn't keep someone like him content with a super sub position.

From the player's point of view though, he's still only 29 as has been sitting on our bench for two years. You can understand him doing everything to get a decent move now.

Hopefully on some level the club are just giving him what he needs.

couldn't keep him happy because of the performance of the team. if arsenal were 1st or 2nd he'd stay.

tayto lover

They can call Podolski whatever they like but how Sanogo got game time ahead of him will remain a mystery long after he's gone.
Maybe he was a bit lazy but he was a proven goalscorer at club and international level and that's something I can never see Sanogo being.
Let's hope that any fee we get will be used to better the team at least.

emmetlego

efb wrote: »

What's his total goals scored?

No idea... As I said earlier, it was goals per minute on pitch ratio.

efb

emmetlego wrote: »

No idea... As I said earlier, it was goals per minute on pitch ratio.

Which Is misleading, you don't pay players per minutes played

Irish Aris

efb wrote: »

Which Is misleading, you don't pay players per minutes played

true, and quite likely if he had played more he would have scored more.

efb

Irish Aris wrote: »

true, and quite likely if he had played more he would have scored more.

That's a non sequitur

WoollyRedHat

Colonialboy wrote: »

sure im serious..
it doest matter if he is 19 or 29 , if a player has faults he needs to sort it out.. or preferably the manager needs to sort it out.
Jack had his faults from early days, poor control and poor attitude, would have been nice if they were sorted out before they became problems for the club

if we followed your philosophy , no one could make a comment cos it might hurt his 19 years old, 50k a week feelings...
keep the head buried in the sand , you might need rose tinted glasses to go with the wooly hat... #clueless

Except yes it does. He's still in developmental phase was thrown into the deep end earlier than planned.. he is on a learning curve and will improve over time. You judge him as if he were 29 and you had seen him live in action for the last 10 years and make it seem there's no chance he will improve and try fob him off as flashy, which is ridicolous.

It's over-reactionary bull**** on this thread that's clueless, someone suggested we get rid of Akpom because he's had his chance, I mean WTF...

Irish Aris

efb wrote: »

That's a non sequitur

not necessarily, I did say quite likely.

efb

Might head to Monaco game if I can pick up a ticket

efb

Irish Aris wrote: »

not necessarily, I did say quite likely.

Why is it quite likely?

Irish Aris

efb wrote: »

Why is it quite likely?

basic rule of probabilities.
Looking at stats (in wikipedia, so not sure if they are 100% accurate):
first season, 42 appearances, 16 goals
second season, 27 appearances, 12 goals
this season: 12 appearances, 3 goals.

Not to say that he would become the best goalscorer we ever had, but I would expect him to score more if he was used regularly. I think his injury last season was the turning point.

efb

Irish Aris wrote: »

basic rule of probabilities.
Looking at stats (in wikipedia, so not sure if they are 100% accurate):
first season, 42 appearances, 16 goals
second season, 27 appearances, 12 goals
this season: 12 appearances, 3 goals.

Not to say that he would become the best goalscorer we ever had, but I would expect him to score more if he was used regularly. I think his injury last season was the turning point.

Very poor return this seaso. 25%

byrneg28

Irish Aris wrote: »

basic rule of probabilities.
Looking at stats (in wikipedia, so not sure if they are 100% accurate):
first season, 42 appearances, 16 goals
second season, 27 appearances, 12 goals
this season: 12 appearances, 3 goals.

Not to say that he would become the best goalscorer we ever had, but I would expect him to score more if he was used regularly. I think his injury last season was the turning point.

Of the 81 apperances he made he made 55 starts - 31 goals from that is actually very very good. I mean of the other 26 substitute appearances he made .. what's the likelihood he played more than 20 minutes .. very slim.

byrneg28

efb wrote: »

Very poor return this seaso. 25%

Ah come off it. Look through the cracks man.

12 appearances and 3 goals.. of those 12 appearances Podolski played 300 minutes. thats just over 3 full games. That's a goal a game.

Danny Welbeck has 16 appearances in the premier league and 4 goals. Danny on the other hand played over 1000 minutes and his record speaks for itself. 1 in 4.

efb

byrneg28 wrote: »

Of the 81 apperances he made he made 55 starts - 31 goals from that is actually very very good. I mean of the other 26 substitute appearances he made .. what's the likelihood he played more than 20 minutes .. very slim.

This season is probably best to explain it .. 12 appearances and 3 goals.. of those 12 appearances Podolski played 300 minutes. thats just over 3 full games. That's a goal a game.

Danny Welbeck has 16 appearances in the premier league and 4 goals. Danny on the other hand played over 1000 minutes and his record speaks for itself. 1 in 4.

Most goals are scored in the last 10 minutes of a game so more likely to score then thrn the rest of the match

efb

@Podolski10: I can't express in words my gratitude towards Arsenal fans for all they have done for me in my years… http://t.co/HKEtadIayS

efb

Irish Aris wrote: »

basic rule of probabilities.
Looking at stats (in wikipedia, so not sure if they are 100% accurate):
first season, 42 appearances, 16 goals
second season, 27 appearances, 12 goals
this season: 12 appearances, 3 goals.

Not to say that he would become the best goalscorer we ever had, but I would expect him to score more if he was used regularly. I think his injury last season was the turning point.

Basic rule of probability is that it's a fair an even die- not the case in football

wandatowell

I think the Inter fans would wanna relax a bit.

extra gravy

wandatowell wrote: »

I think the Inter fans would wanna relax a bit.

They haven't had much to get excited about this season in fairness!

wonga77

wandatowell wrote: »

I think the Inter fans would wanna relax a bit.

They've just got Germany's third most capped player and fourth highest scorer of all time, plenty from the outside looking in still regard him as a top player, I think he'll be a big success there, the pace of the game is slower which will suit him, cant see him flopping like Torres anyway.
Where is Sanogo off to???

Oranage2

We better be getting a striker in, who else can come off the bench and score when we sell pod?

Campbell hasn't shown he can.
Sanago is one of the worst players at the club.

How much is pod being sold for does anyone know?

Soups123

efb wrote: »

Most goals are scored in the last 10 minutes of a game so more likely to score then thrn the rest of the match

Have you stats to back this up or is this a just my opinion type stat?

wonga77

Oranage2 wrote: »

How much is pod being sold for does anyone know?

Only on loan till the end of the season isnt it?

jonneymendoza

carltonleon wrote: »

Look at Kosc's desire here from yesterday .... Bloody Hell !!

were was his desire in the first 2 goals we conceded mate?

extra gravy

Hopefully this all means we'll finally see Akpom getting a proper chance. Have high hopes for him.

DenMan

Are the players we have out on loan allowed to play for their clubs in the FA Cup?

Irish Aris

efb wrote: »

Basic rule of probability is that it's a fair an even die- not the case in football

????

symbolic

efb wrote: »

Most goals are scored in the last 10 minutes of a game so more likely to score then thrn the rest of the match

Ha you really don't like him ☺

efb

symbolic wrote: »

Ha you really don't like him ☺

Hess very likeable fellow- I don't dislike him, just don't rate him and not worth his salary

efb

Irish Aris wrote: »

????

All things must be fair and constant - that doesn't apply in minutes of a football match

Quazzie

efb wrote: »

All things must be fair and constant - that doesn't apply in minutes of a football match

Evidence of this please.

emmetlego

efb wrote: »

Hess very likeable fellow- I don't dislike him, just don't rate him and not worth his salary

You could have fooled me! I complimented him last night and you lashed my post! A very large and obvious dislike for him!

efb

efb wrote: »

Maybe Per can't fcuk off too m

Mad craic??? He's a footballer not your mate In college

Can he tweet in Itilian??

This?

efb

Quazzie wrote: »

Evidence of this please.

http://www.soccerstats.com/timing.asp?league=england

Soups123

efb wrote: »

http://www.soccerstats.com/timing.asp?league=england

Proofs nought

efb

Soups123 wrote: »

Proofs nought

It proves goals aren't evenly distributed throughout the game- what have I failed to prove????

byrneg28

jonneymendoza wrote: »

were was his desire in the first 2 goals we conceded mate?

you're having a f***in laugh mendoza.

He's been sarcastic. The video he posted is one of goals we conceded

byrneg28

efb wrote: »

Most goals are scored in the last 10 minutes of a game so more likely to score then thrn the rest of the match

more goals are scored by who in the last 10 minutes? Arsenal, Podolski, In general more people score in the last 10 minutes...??

What???

efb

byrneg28 wrote: »

more goals are scored by whom in the last 10 minutes? Arsenal, Podolski, In general more people score in the last 10 minutes...??

What???

In EPL games see link- this is consistent throughout football though

efb

Are ye guys yanking my chain at this stage???

byrneg28

efb wrote: »

In EPL games see link- this is consistent throughout football though

What link???

EDIT: found it

No I'm not yanking your chain anyway, I just don't get how you can argue he's an inconsistent striker and then when they stats prove his goals per game ratio is the best at Arsenal. You come back and say most people score in the last 10 minutes anyway?

I just think it's a very bizarre argument and it seems like (maybe not) you're clutching at straws a bit.

You said 3 goals in 12 games is 25% which is a terrible return. but then when told he actually only played 300 minutes of those 12 games which is just over 3 games you then argue most people score in the last 10 minutes anyway??? Like what?? That's such a bizarre argument.

He's also playing left wing for most of these games so 1:1 ratio is pretty dam good this season.

brianregan09

Its getting as bad as the Liverpool vs United thread in here people fighting over wenger, podolski leaving .....Just get behind the team lads for god sake

Ol' Donie

Do we know when Ozil is back?

Imagine how good we could be if we had no injuries. The rubbish thing is we have loads of really good players. If we could get our strongest 11 fit, we could actually challenge for the title.

Pierce_1991

Ol' Donie wrote: »

Do we know when Ozil is back?

Imagine how good we could be if we had no injuries. The rubbish thing is we have loads of really good players. If we could get our strongest 11 fit, we could actually challenge for the title.

I believe he's back in full training anyway, be nice if he could get on for a run out tomorrow, don't see it happening though.

Mr Blobby

Wenger said there's a chance he'll play some part tomorrow.

greendom

I heard he was targetting the Stoke game,

Letting Podolski go is incredibly stupid.

Pudders

If Poldolski is let go and Sanogo stays, Wenger will leave himself open to slaughter.

To challenge for the title you need squad players like Podilski.

Unless we are getting a better replacement I am deeply unhappy at letting Podolski go. But we need fixing elsewhere.

And it's hard to take anyone seriously that claims that Podolski hasn't delivered while here, especially when using stats that prove them obviously wrong.