Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014/15

GavRedKing

jonneymendoza wrote: »

khadira is a dm aint he?

He'd be a good option in CM anyway, very good box to box player but hes had a few injuries through his career so much so that hes played under 300 club games so far.

For a free option in the summer or a nominal fee now, any club would do well to pass on him, but it does depend on what valuation Real put on him for a foreign club in January.

wandatowell

symbolic wrote: »

From amount spent by the clubs the expectations are probably on level pegging no?

My point isn't to do with cash spent by whom, its directly related to what the board expect their manager to achieve and then the repercussions of not meeting those expectations. Arsenal could easily finish outside the top 4, hell even 6th is a horrendous possibility considering our wavy form this season.
If it where a cluster **** at the end of the season, Arsene absolutely will not get the sack. There is no pressure from the board on Arsene to achieve or to exceed expectations.

City on the other hand are liable to do anything. If they get smashed by Barca and finish 3rd then there's every chance Pellegrini with get the chop.

symbolic

wandatowell wrote: »

My point isn't to do with cash spent by whom, its directly related to what the board expect their manager to achieve and then the repercussions of not meeting those expectations.

Yeah but the expectations vary due to the cash.

Anyway I just think comparing them without context is a bit unfair.

But yes I do agree with you, Mansour bin Zayed Al Nahyan could decide next summer that he wants Pellegrini gone if he doesn't win the league. And I agree I don't see Arsenal doing the same thing. I think that's a good thing though. I wouldn't see it as an embarrassing easy street.

Turtwig

Isco would actually be perfect. If ye got him. Wilshire is way too inconsistent. Front four of Sanchez, Ozil, Isco
and Giroud would strike fear into anyone. Would even make teams less offensively minded against ye.

Bobby Baccala

Turtwig wrote: »

Isco would actually be perfect. If ye got him. Wilshire is way too inconsistent. Front four of Sanchez, Ozil, Isco
and Giroud would strike fear into anyone. Would even make teams less offensively minded against ye.

He wouldn't be perfect he'd be an unnecessary luxury, wilshere? Cazorla has well and truly claimed his place in our first team.

Turtwig

Isco is much better than both of them. Although of late Santi's form has been mighty impressive.

shano_88

Isco is a great player but we have too many of his kind already. It would just lead to a more imbalanced squad and more players playing out of position.

Bobby Baccala

Turtwig wrote: »

Isco is much better than both of them. Although of late Santi's form has been mighty impressive.

Another attacking midfielder is literally the last thing we need though

Mr Blobby

Turtwig wrote: »

Isco is much better than both of them. Although of late Santi's form has been mighty impressive.

We'd be absolutely nuts to spend that kind of money on Isco or any type of attacking mid.

60m would buy a great defensive mid and at least 2 good CB's.

tayto lover

Mr Blobby wrote: »

We'd be absolutely nuts to spend that kind of money on Isco or any type of attacking mid.

60m would buy a great defensive mid and at least 2 good CB's.

We could have got a CB, DM and Cesc for that kind of money.

emergingstar

That young DM all but confrims he is joining

tayto lover

emergingstar wrote: »

That young DM all but confrims he is joining

Who?

emergingstar

tayto lover wrote: »

Who?

Krystian Bielik think he is 16

Soups123

tayto lover wrote: »

Who?

Probably referring to that lad Bielik

tayto lover

emergingstar wrote: »

Krystian Bielik think he is 16

Will we get anyone for now I wonder?

Gringo180

We should throw 35 million at Juve for Pogba.

emergingstar

tayto lover wrote: »

Will we get anyone for now I wonder?

Not for Midfield id say

We will def get s defender though

tayto lover

emergingstar wrote: »

Not for Midfield id say

We will def get s defender though

We need both though.

Mr Blobby

Gringo180 wrote: »

We should throw 35 million at Juve for Pogba.

What about the other 35 million they'd want?

Gringo180

Mr Blobby wrote: »

What about the other 35 million they'd want?

We can pay in installments.

emergingstar

tayto lover wrote: »

We need both though.

Without doubt we do

Alfred Borden

Ed Aarons ‏@ed_aarons 20s21 seconds ago London, England
Wojciech Szczesny's Dad says Per Mertesacker "showed the agility of a rhinoceros" in the defeat to Southampton

Beginning to seal his faith. Hopefully he enjoys the Bundesliga.

byrneg28

Raf32 wrote: »

Beginning to seal his faith. Hopefully he enjoys the Bundesliga.

Who's sealing his faith?

Szcz or Mert?

Alfred Borden

byrneg28 wrote: »

Who's sealing his faith?

Szcz or Mert?

Scz. Surely he could have silenced his father? I heard on a pod last night from a reliable guy that one first teamer cant stand him.

Quazzie

Raf32 wrote: »

Scz. Surely he could have silenced his father? I heard on a pod last night from a reliable guy that one first teamer cant stand him.

:rolleyes:

Are you able to control what your dad talks about with other people when you're not around?

wonga77

What does his fathers views have to do with his future at the club?

Pierce_1991

Raf32 wrote: »

Scz. Surely he could have silenced his father? I heard on a pod last night from a reliable guy that one first teamer cant stand him.

His dad has always been a bit outspoken. I'd be very surprised if Ches went anywhere but equally I wouldn't be as upset as I might have been a couple of years ago.

Alfred Borden

Quazzie wrote: »

:rolleyes:

Are you able to control what your dad talks about with other people when you're not around?

Well he went to the media to belittle his team mates and has done similar in the past when criticizing the club. Surely someone serious about their career would have asked him to stop after the first time and not criticize his employers and work mates.

byrneg28

Raf32 wrote: »

Scz. Surely he could have silenced his father? I heard on a pod last night from a reliable guy that one first teamer cant stand him.

Who?

Is it shrouded in secrecy?

What's this got to do with anything, lots of people can be on a team and not be best of mates??

wonga77

Raf32 wrote: »

Well he went to the media to belittle his team mates and has done similar in the past when criticizing the club. Surely someone serious about their career would have asked him to stop after the first time and not criticize his employers and work mates.

If I'm not mistaken I think he works for polish TV so he's involved in the media. Also hes a former player himself so obviously he is going to be asked questions

And of course, his father also admits that he hasn't even talked to Woj yet.....

https://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs/early-doors/wojciech-szczesny-s-dad-criticises--embarrassing--arsenal-defence-and-says-his-son--isn-t-dumb-enough--to-smoke-in-the-dressing-room-105228596.html

wonga77

"Yes, he made a mistake on the first goal, but please look at the Arsenal defence. Per Mertesacker showed the agility of a rhinoceros. Someone should support him [Wojciech], but the coaching staff at Arsenal would rather not.
"The entire defence this season is an embarassment."


Dunno about the part about the coaching staff but the rest is pretty much spot on. Merts attempt to clear the ball off the line was embarrassing

CatInABox

wonga77 wrote: »

"Yes, he made a mistake on the first goal, but please look at the Arsenal defence. Per Mertesacker showed the agility of a rhinoceros. Someone should support him [Wojciech], but the coaching staff at Arsenal would rather not.
"The entire defence this season is an embarassment."


Dunno about the part about the coaching staff but the rest is pretty much spot on. Merts attempt to clear the ball off the line was embarrassing

In fairness, I've yet to see a failed goal line clearance that doesn't look embarrassing.

wonga77

wonga77 wrote: »

"Yes, he made a mistake on the first goal, but please look at the Arsenal defence. Per Mertesacker showed the agility of a rhinoceros. Someone should support him [Wojciech], but the coaching staff at Arsenal would rather not.
"The entire defence this season is an embarassment."


Dunno about the part about the coaching staff but the rest is pretty much spot on. Merts attempt to clear the ball off the line was embarrassing

It's just typical arsenal though, it's not just one error. At least 3 players made errors for that goal. Any one of them made the right choice, and it would have been snuffed out.

emmetlego

Basil3 wrote: »

It's just typical arsenal though, it's not just one error. At least 3 players made errors for that goal. Any one of them made the right choice, and it would have been snuffed out.

The 1st goal was a bit unlucky to be fair, yes we made poor decisions, and Mert was slow back to the goal line, but it was a superb finish that I doubt anyone of the defenders would have expected.

The 2nd was just pure cock up by Woj. A panicked effort, probably etched out of the memories of their 1st… I thought Debuchy did ok for it, brought the ball under control, only for Woj to flap at it straight to the opponents… Disaster.

Pierce_1991

wonga77 wrote: »

"Yes, he made a mistake on the first goal, but please look at the Arsenal defence. Per Mertesacker showed the agility of a rhinoceros. Someone should support him [Wojciech], but the coaching staff at Arsenal would rather not.
"The entire defence this season is an embarassment."


Dunno about the part about the coaching staff but the rest is pretty much spot on. Merts attempt to clear the ball off the line was embarrassing

If I was Per I'd be very annoyed with comments like that. At the end of the day his son has won nothing (apart from an FA Cup medal he won from the bench) whilst Per is a world cup winner. Szczesny needs to tell his da to keep quiet.

AdamD

Pers attempt at a clearance was pathetic. Looked nothing like a professional athlete.

Roddy23

I see there's rumours that Thiago Motta has asked PSG to let him leave. I know he's 32 years old, but having watched him play over the years always thought he was a classy defender (even after he sustained a serious knee injury). If we were to go for him and I know we were heavily linked before he moved to PSG, I think he'd be a hell of a signing.

Thoughts?

byrneg28

Roddy23 wrote: »

I see there's rumours that Thiago Motta has asked PSG to let him leave. I know he's 32 years old, but having watched him play over the years always thought he was a classy defender (even after he sustained a serious knee injury). If we were to go for him and I know we were heavily linked before he moved to PSG, I think he'd be a hell of a signing.

Thoughts?

Is he not a Midfielder?

Mr Blobby

byrneg28 wrote: »

Is he not a Midfielder?

Holding mid.
Bit like Xabi Alonso only swap great passing with great break up play.

Ol' Donie

Raf32 wrote: »

Scz. Surely he could have silenced his father? I heard on a pod last night from a reliable guy that one first teamer cant stand him.

What's the pod?

Ardennes1944

Roddy23 wrote: »

I see there's rumours that Thiago Motta has asked PSG to let him leave. I know he's 32 years old, but having watched him play over the years always thought he was a classy defender (even after he sustained a serious knee injury). If we were to go for him and I know we were heavily linked before he moved to PSG, I think he'd be a hell of a signing.

Thoughts?

Dont.Want.More.Old.DMs

keano_afc

Ardennes1944 wrote: »

Dont.Want.More.Old.DMs

This guy doesnt have a broken back though. At least I dont think he does.

Ol' Donie

He probably will after his first training session.

Anyway, lads, what podcasts do yis listen to for Arsenal & football news?

I listen to The Guardian Football (twice) Weekly, Second Captains and The Tuesday Club. Any I'm missing?

Alfred Borden

Ol' Donie wrote: »

What's the pod?

It was on ArseAmerica podcast. Its very good, he always gets on some very good guests and journalists. Had Amy Lawrence and Wearethenorthbank from twitter on this weeks one. Also listen to Bergkamp Wonderland and AFTV podcasts which prove very good along with The Tuesday Club.

Ol' Donie

Arseamerica.

Sometimes I wish our club had a different name. :-(

Anyway, I'll give it a shot, thanks a lot. :-)

AdamD

Ardennes1944 wrote: »

Dont.Want.More.Old.DMs

Isn't DM one of the positions were experience is very important?

tayto lover

AdamD wrote: »

Isn't DM one of the positions were experience is very important?

Experience is great but not on a zimmer frame.

Its Only Ray Parlour

Vieira was 20 when we signed him.

Ardennes1944

AdamD wrote: »

Isn't DM one of the positions were experience is very important?

Yes, it requires good self-control not to get caught out too far forward and to read play, but I'm sure someone of say, 27, with typically 7 years first team professional football would possess that.

Dont know why we would replace Arteta who most feel is beyond his best with someone marginally younger?