Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014/15

Soups123

efb wrote: »

Can we really compete with Chelsea and City and those investing a lot in their squads?

It would have cost us 50/60 million more to compete we have that, we just won't spend it

Ardennes1944

Campbell didnt put a foot wrong when he came on, delighted for him. Hopefully he will get more game time

Soups123

emergingstar wrote: »

Bellerin was good today, and I liked what I saw from campbell

Hope both start during the week

Campbell was out best and most effective substitution and he was forced not selected.

Belerin is showing real potential

Looper007

Soups123 wrote: »

Rags point was sarcastic about what the club deem acceptable he is off the fence a long time.

The club needs a shake up on and off the field everyone is just cosy

:pac: I know it was a joke. Christ we're miserable on here

In all seriousness we are in deep trouble at falling behind its not even funny. As someone said earlier on are we going to do a Untied from last season. I wouldn't be surprised.

efb

Soups123 wrote: »

It would have cost us 50/60 million more to compete we have that, we just won't spend it

We'd need more than that, that would just about buy a WC player before paying him!

Looper007

Ardennes1944 wrote: »

Campbell didnt put a foot wrong when he came on, delighted for him. Hopefully he will get more game time

He won't be in the squad next game knowing Wenger :pac:

Mr Blobby

efb wrote: »

Can we really compete with Chelsea and City and those investing a lot in their squads?

Chelsea and City having loads of money is irrelevant. Fact is they spent money on the positions that needed fixing. We on the other hand spent money replacing players that we lost and then didn't bother to fix the positions that needed fixing.

And even so the team we fielded today should be able to see off the like of Hull.

emergingstar

Soups123 wrote: »

Campbell was out best and most effective substitution and he was forced not selected.

Belerin is showing real potential

I hope when podolski is back that means Campbell misses out

Would like to see him
And bellerin get a run of games now

Soups123

efb wrote: »

We'd need more than that, that would just about buy a WC player before paying him!

It's would buy two of a Costa, Cesc, Matic, Carvalho, Keidhira, Bender etc etc

Were there any glaringly poor individual performances today? 2 individual errors for the goals but again the tactics have to be questioned.

efb

Soups123 wrote: »

It's would buy two of a Costa, Cesc, Matic, Carvalho, Keidhira, Bender etc etc

And pay them???

Mr Blobby

Mr Blobby wrote: »

Chelsea and City having loads of money is irrelevant. Fact is they spent money on the positions that needed fixing. We on the other hand spent money replacing players that we lost and then didn't bother to fix the positions that needed fixing.

And even so the team we fielded today should be able to see off the like of Hull.

Agreed on both points.

efb

efb wrote: »

And pay them???

Yes.

enfant terrible

efb wrote: »

Can we really compete with Chelsea and City and those investing a lot in their squads?

Handing them Fabregas on a plate probably didn't help us.

emergingstar

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Were there any glaringly poor individual performances today? 2 individual errors for the goals but again the tactics have to be questioned.

Ox was rubbish

Looper007

Deleted User wrote: »

Were there any glaringly poor individual performances today? 2 individual errors for the goals but again the tactics have to be questioned.

you mean a poor ref decision doesn't take away from our poor performance though.

enfant terrible

efb wrote: »

And pay them???

Thought our wage bill is higher than Chelsea's now?

Alfred Borden

emergingstar wrote: »

Ox was rubbish

Played on the left when he is a right winger though. 3 good right wingers and nothing of note on the left.

Looper007

enfant terrible wrote: »

Handing them Fabregas on a plate probably didn't help us.

But he wasn't what we needed, I still believe Wenger was right on that decision.

efb

enfant terrible wrote: »

Thought our wage bill is higher than Chelsea's now?

Yes, can we afford an even higher one?

Would these players (Cesc excepted) come to Arsenal?

enfant terrible

efb wrote: »

Yes, can we afford an even higher one?

Would these players (Cesc excepted) come to Arsenal?

So your saying we can sign Alexis Sanchez and Ozil but couldn't sign a Matic?

Looper007

efb wrote: »

Yes, can we afford an even higher one?

Would these players (Cesc excepted) come to Arsenal?

I wouldn't with Wenger in charge, that's the truth.

could we have signed them, no problem we could have signed many a top player. Its just wenger doesn't like it, he wants to win the league with the less money spent.

byrneg28

byrneg28 wrote: »

Hull
Sunderland
Burnley
Swansea
United
West Brom
Southampton
Stoke
Newcastle
Liverpool
QPR
West Ham

All very winable games and to me looks like around 40 points by January, that's a similar position we were in last year. With Chelsea (a), Everton (a) and Liverpool (a) out of the way.

Call me mad but I also think we can beat Chelsea at the Emirates

I always think a team if they want to win the league can afford 5 draws and 5 losses. Lets push on and see what we can do. I personally think we look better than last year just trying to find the right gel at the moment.

Maybe I'm too positive. But I like to dream.

byrneg28 wrote: »

Yes I fancy taking 30/36 points from that run.. don't understand why if everyone had such high hopes about a result at stamford bridge why we couldn't agree that we can take 30/36 points out of all those clubs listed

Now we just need 29/33 from those matches. :pac:

emergingstar

Raf32 wrote: »

Played on the left when he is a right winger though. 3 good right wingers and nothing of note on the left.

All the same where he played couldn't pass the ball 5 yards

efb

enfant terrible wrote: »

So your saying we can sign Alexis Sanchez and Ozil but couldn't sign a Matic?

Having signed them you limit your options.

I think both were good signings

Soups123

efb wrote: »

And pay them???

Of course we can were Arsenal not Coventry

Looper007

Looper007 wrote: »

you mean a poor ref decision doesn't take away from our poor performance though.

Probably should've been a free kick but Flamini still played the ball afterwards and rather than clear it he tried to play a pass.

enfant terrible

efb wrote: »

Having signed them you limit your options.

I think both were good signings

How do you know we're limited?

Looper007

emergingstar wrote: »

All the same where he played couldn't pass the ball 5 yards

Ox looked out of sorts. Apart from Sanchez and Bellerin, then Campbell when he came on looked the only players trying.

emergingstar

Looper007 wrote: »

Ox looked out of sorts. Apart from Sanchez and Bellerin, then Campbell when he came on looked the only players trying.

That's about right

efb

enfant terrible wrote: »

How do you know we're limited?

It's clear

enfant terrible

efb wrote: »

It's clear

Explain

Looper007

I think we are still missing three top players, Centre back, Defensive Mid and Striker all of world class quality. I'm worried how many of our top players are going to stick around before they are poached away by City or Chelsea.

Alfred Borden

Maybe if we werent overpaying the manager, more funds for wages would be available for a top DM?

enfant terrible

Looper007 wrote: »

I think we are still missing three top players, Centre back, Defensive Mid and Striker all of world class quality. I'm worried how many of our top players are going to stick around before they are poached away by City or Chelsea.

There is loads of quality in the squad but Wenger can't get them functioning as a team.

emergingstar

I think Ye will all drive yerselfs mad going over the wenger in out debate after every game we loose or draw

Or the what we need debate it's pretty clear what we need

Some arguements are done to death and just rehashed a thousand times

Id rather debate this game in isolation and then move onto the next game

K4t

Looper007 wrote: »

Ox looked out of sorts. Apart from Sanchez and Bellerin, then Campbell when he came on looked the only players trying.

Eh, Welbeck sprinted the length of the pitch to cover the midfield for two of Hull's counter attacks in the 2nd half, and got back into position to score the equaliser the second time. He was shut out to an extent today though by Hull's packed defence and poor service from the midfield.

efb

enfant terrible wrote: »

Explain

The board have advised as such, never mind the PR spinning, the board sold RvP when they were offered enough money.


They are only interested in profit making, and not investing a lot of cash in the team, Webber had to clear out the dross to make summer signings

efb

efb wrote: »

The board have advised as such, never mind the PR spinning, the board sold RvP when they were offered enough money.

As I've said several times, if the board is limiting things as they seem to be then Wenger, if he loves the club as much as he apparently does, should be throwing them under the bus and letting everyone know.

Looper007

enfant terrible wrote: »

There is loads of quality in the squad but Wenger can't get them functioning as a team.

Not at the back there ain't. Or Defensive mid area or upfront (welbeck and giroud are doing a great job but they won't win leagues or score 30 a season).

We have quality but not enough of it in positions that are losing us games.

gosplan

Just to nip this in the bud.

We did not draw against hull because we are missing a better DMF.

efb

Deleted User wrote: »

As I've said several times, if the board is limiting things as they seem to be then Wenger, if he loves the club as much as he apparently does, should be throwing them under the bus and letting everyone know.

What would that achieve? Wenger lose him job, the board deny it and the board continue with a sub par manager??

K4t

K4t wrote: »

Eh, Welbeck sprinted the length of the pitch to cover the midfield for two of Hull's counter attacks in the 2nd half, and got back into position to score the equaliser the second time. He was shut out to an extent today though by Hull's packed defence and poor service from the midfield.

Again, tactics. He took his goal really well but Arsenal playing a high line and compressing the play to about 30 yards of the pitch isn't going to get the best out of him.

Looper007

K4t wrote: »

Eh, Welbeck sprinted the length of the pitch to cover the midfield for two of Hull's counter attacks in the 2nd half, and got back into position to score the equaliser the second time. He was shut out to an extent today though by Hull's packed defence and poor service from the midfield.

Welbeck wasn't one of the worse I give him that.

Alfred Borden

gosplan wrote: »

Just to nip this in the bud.

We did not draw against hull because we are missing a better DMF.

Id argue a proper DM plays to the whistle and puts the ball out for their first.

emergingstar

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Again, tactics. He took his goal really well but Arsenal playing a high line and compressing the play to about 30 yards of the pitch isn't going to get the best out of him.

I get what your saying

But we were pressing for the equaliser so an understand the situation

gosplan

gosplan wrote: »

Just to nip this in the bud.

We did not draw against hull because we are missing a better DMF.

Flamini wasn't at fault at all?

efb wrote: »

What would that achieve? Wenger lose him job, the board deny it and the board continue with a sub par manager??

The board would have to step things up because it wouldn't be too long til crowds decline and it hits earnings. Also apparently we'd be doomed and would risk missing top 4, think the board would take that chance?

emergingstar

Flamini was fouled plain and simple

enfant terrible

efb wrote: »

The board have advised as such, never mind the PR spinning, the board sold RvP when they were offered enough money.


They are only interested in profit making, and not investing a lot of cash in the team, Webber had to clear out the dross to make summer signings

We were handicapped until the new Emirates and Puma deals kicked in.

Then we bought Ozil for 42 million, Sanchez for 35 million, Wellbeck for 16 million, 12 million on Chambers, Debuchy for 12 million and more.

We also passed out Chelsea's wage bill, its now £180 million.

How much more do we need to spend to have a have decent team in your opinion 100 million, 200 million?

Its not a monetary issue, the money was there to buy a CB and Wenger said he chose not too.

Our issues are Wenger not getting the best out of our expensively assembled and paid squad.

emergingstar

emergingstar wrote: »

I get what your saying

But we were pressing for the equaliser so an understand the situation

I'm being complimentary to Welbeck. :P That he had to go so deep at times is an indictment of tactics or other players. I posted in the match thread at 0-0 that he was on the ball with at least 5 players ahead of him. I say at least 5 because there could've been another player out of shot. This was at 0-0 while Arsenal were playing keep-ball. Ludicrous.