Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014/15

Alfred Borden

Quazzie wrote: »

You certainly looked like you rated him here

squad player!

tayto lover

That was not even close to a full Anderlecht team tonight.
Any of us could have picked a team to go out and beat them.
It's not the team, it's the tactics and application.
That team tonight was not even fit.
Much of out trouble is coming from going too easy on the training ground.

Quazzie

Raf32 wrote: »

squad player!

:rolleyes:

Alfred Borden

Looper007 wrote: »

Nothing Szc could do, I still rate him. everything else I agree with you with.

Dont like seeing Goalies beat at near post.

Marty McFly

Raf32 wrote: »

Szc in goal, Mert and Monreal at centre back and Arteta/Flamini in DM, thats genuinely bottom ten standard

Sczez is one of the best keepers around to say otherwise is nonsense.

Alfred Borden

Quazzie wrote: »

:rolleyes:

Genuinely, good squad player for his leadership.

Alfred Borden

Marty McFly wrote: »

Sczez is one of the best keepers around to say otherwise is nonsense.

Only Arsenal fans would say that imo

AdamD

Sczezsney did nothing wrong...

Quazzie

Merse calling us tactically clueless. The man talks sense. Wenger has to take the blame for this one. He doesn't know how to change a game because he only ever has a plan A

Marty McFly

Raf32 wrote: »

Only Arsenal fans would say that imo

I know yea it's not like he won the golden glove last season oh wait.........

UnknownSpecies

Soups123 wrote: »

Really nothing Wenger can do? Against Anderlecht? If he games the game elsewhere we put them on the back foot

He also made the decision to rely on an average left back as CB cover

Nah I get what your saying, I just mean that Mertesacker wasn't good enough individually for that one.

Looper007

Raf32 wrote: »

Only Arsenal fans would say that imo

Raf you are a good lad but that's a silly comment, he's top 5 in the league.

wandatowell

Merse just called it. Tactically clueless.

tayto lover

AND lads said we didn't need Fabregas :pac:

Soups123

Marty McFly wrote: »

I know yea it's not like he won the golden globe last season oh wait.........

Must have missed that film

Surely it was a horror or a comedy role

Soups123

wandatowell wrote: »

Merse just called it. Tactically clueless.

It's scary but we all know that!

Alfred Borden

Marty McFly wrote: »

I know yea it's not like he won the golden glove last season oh wait.........

Thats on the basis of his defense. I feel kos and sagna merited the award more.

Looper007

wandatowell wrote: »

Merse just called it. Tactically clueless.

Any fan can stand by that, its crazy that he didn't make a top class centre back and defensive midfielder signings his main agenda during the summer. He's so damn stubborn he blame the ref for it wait and see.

Alfred Borden

Looper007 wrote: »

Raf you are a good lad but that's a silly comment, he's top 5 in the league.

Its an opinion which Im sure many non arsenal biased fans would share. No way is he top 5, top ten is more realistic.

yipeeeee

Really thought those days of thrown huge leads were gone.

What has happened to Ramsey.

Soups123

Looper007 wrote: »

Raf you are a good lad but that's a silly comment, he's top 5 in the league.

I like him and think he 'll get better but all of

Courtois, Cech, DeGae, Hart, Lloris (maybe Begovic) are all better at this point

Marty McFly

tayto lover wrote: »

AND lads said we didn't need Fabregas :pac:

So Fabregas would have changed the result? Give over

We could have the best 11 in the world and still lost our problem is more tactics than anything else.

AdamD

LLoris is a horrid goal keeper, good shot stopper but his decision making is awful, he'd fit in perfectly.

efb

James Nesbitt is looking for Arsenal's defence on BBC1 now...

Skylinehead

Raf32 wrote: »

Its an opinion which Im sure many non arsenal biased fans would share. No way is he top 5, top ten is more realistic.

Courtois
Cech
De Gea
Lloris

Go on, name a better one other than those. You're being very hyperbolic.


Ridiculous result though....

Soups123

AdamD wrote: »

LLoris is a horrid goal keeper, good shot stopper but his decision making is awful, he'd fit in perfectly.

Really I think he is excellent

yipeeeee

Raf32 wrote: »

Thats on the basis of his defense. I feel kos and sagna merited the award more.

I'm telling ya, sagna leaving will hurt us bad, he really was a class defender for us.

Looper007

Soups123 wrote: »

I like him and think he 'll get better but all of

Courtois, Cech, DeGae, Hart, Lloris (maybe Begovic) are all better at this point

Hart is the most overrated keeper around, he's prone to big mistakes too and Scz is better then Begovic

tayto lover

Marty McFly wrote: »

So Fabregas would have changed the result? Give over

We could have the best 11 in the world and still lost our problem is more tactics than anything else.

I know it's lack of tactical nous from Wenger.
BUT Fab would have been better than Ramsey and Cazorla together tonight.

AdamD

Soups123 wrote: »

Really I think he is excellent

He has an incredible ability to create 1v1 situations out of innocuous opposition attacks.

Alfred Borden

Skylinehead wrote: »

Courtois
Cech
De Gea
Lloris

Go on, name a better one other than those. You're being very hyperbolic.


Ridiculous result though....

The list Soups said for me.

Mr Blobby

Szczesny is top class and you'd find it hard to find 5 keepers better than him in the league.

He actually had a good game tonight. In the first half he made a vital save. But most people will forget that and only focus on the last goal.. Which was all Merts fault.

Soups123

Looper007 wrote: »

Hart is the most overrated keeper around, he's prone to big mistakes too and Scz is better then Begovic

I think he is there or there abouts with Hart/Begovic.

Looper007

Mr Blobby wrote: »

Szczesny is top class and you'd find it hard to find 5 keepers better than him in the league.

He actually had a good game tonight. In the first half he made a vital save. But most people will forget that and only focus on the last goal.. Which was all Merts fault.

I don't get why Raf and co are putting the blame on Scz none of the goals were his fault, bad defending once again did us in.

Looper007

Soups123 wrote: »

I think he is there or there abouts with Hart/Begovic.

so on that basis he make top 5 :pac:

Soups123

Mr Blobby wrote: »

Szczesny is top class and you'd find it hard to find 5 keepers better than him in the league.

He actually had a good game tonight. In the first half he made a vital save. But most people will forget that and only focus on the last goal.. Which was all Merts fault.

Szczesny did nothing wrong tonight at all, the problems were all in front of him

Alfred Borden

Looper007 wrote: »

I don't get why Raf and co are putting the blame on Scz none of the goals were his fault, bad defending once again did us in.

Im blaming him and mert for the last goal. Surely Mert shouldnt be getting beat in the air and scz at his near post?

Quazzie

Looper007 wrote: »

I don't get why Raf and co are putting the blame on Scz none of the goals were his fault, bad defending once again did us in.

He says the defense won Szcz teh Golden Glove but it was Szcz who lost us the game tonight. :rolleyes:

wandatowell

Problems start and end with management.

Alfred Borden

Why couldnt Wenger make a change and calm the flow of the game? Does he genuinely not see these things or has he lost it that bad?

Marty McFly

Soups123 wrote: »

I like him and think he 'll get better but all of

Courtois, Cech, DeGae, Hart, Lloris (maybe Begovic) are all better at this point

There is no way Hart is better.

Szcez has saved us more times than he's cost is a brilliant keeper the first time I'm years we had a good keeper for someone to say he is a bottom ten player is ridiculous.

He was one the best in league last season it's crazy someone can say the defence merited his golden globe but in the same breath say Merts is and never was good enough.

It was a terrible performance but let's remember our 11 out there was more than good enough to beat Anderlecht for me no pointing the fingers at players more our set up and tactics and why we collapsed once again.

Alfred Borden

Quazzie wrote: »

He says the defense won Szcz teh Golden Glove but it was Szcz who lost us the game tonight. :rolleyes:

I blamed Mert, Flamini, Arteta, Monreal and Szc for the last goal?

Mr Blobby

Raf32 wrote: »

Im blaming him and mert for the last goal. Surely Mert shouldnt be getting beat in the air and scz at his near post?

To be fair it was a low bullet header. Not easy to save at all.

Sure he made at least 3 big saves. Remember those?

Looper007

Raf32 wrote: »

Im blaming him and mert for the last goal. Surely Mert shouldnt be getting beat in the air and scz at his near post?

It was Mert's fault Raf, Scz was not to blame. His defenders should be clearing it away.

Soups123

Marty McFly wrote: »

There is no way Hart is better.

Szcez has saved us more times than he's cost is a brilliant keeper the first time I'm years we had a good keeper for someone to say he is a bottom ten player is ridiculous.

He was one the best in league last season it's crazy someone can say the defence merited his golden globe but in the same breath say Merts is and never was good enough.

It was a terrible performance but let's remember our 11 out there was more than good enough to beat Anderlecht for me no pointing the fingers at players more our set up and tactics and why we collapsed once again.

With the exception of your comment on Hart. I've said the same with the rest. Szchez was not the problem tonight.

Looper007

Raf32 wrote: »

Why couldnt Wenger make a change and calm the flow of the game? Does he genuinely not see these things or has he lost it that bad?

With who Raf? we bugger all Centre backs to throw on or defensive players.

Alfred Borden

Mr Blobby wrote: »

To be fair it was a low bullet header. Not easy to save at all.

Sure he made at least 3 big saves. Remember those?

Looper007 wrote: »

It was Mert's fault Raf, Scz was not to blame. His defenders should be clearing it away.

Yup and without those saves we were in big trouble. Im not saying he cost us the game (never said that) but just annoyed he was beaten at his near post. But Mert and monreal were dirt so I suppose its hard for him to have any confidence whats going on infront of him. Wenger has actually taken us backwards, its incredible.

Just to update something I did before:

Wins: Crystal Palace, Besiktas, Aston Villa, Galatasaray, Anderlecht, Sunderland, Burnley.
Draws: Besiktas, Everton, Leicester, Man City, Spurs, Hull, Anderlecht.
Losses: Dortmund, Southampton, Chelsea.

The wins row has widened a bit but those results look very mid-table.

Alfred Borden

Looper007 wrote: »

With who Raf? we bugger all Centre backs to throw on or defensive players.

He's the manager. Ramsey looked tired why wasnt he replaced, or santi who was very ineffective? Maybe throw Bellerin on and go 5 at the back for the last 5 minutes.

Soups123

Raf32 wrote: »

He's the manager. Ramsey looked tired why wasnt he replaced, or santi who was very ineffective? Maybe throw Bellerin on and go 5 at the back for the last 5 minutes.

Or in other words do fcukin something