Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014/15

Soups123

efb wrote: »

Proves my point tbf

You haven't proved any of your points, random comments and no substance.

Sheepy99

For all the worrying that's going on, Arsenal will definitely achieve at least a top 4 finish. Can't see them finishing any lower than that

efb

Raf32 wrote: »

No, it shows teams with less money can occasionally topple the bigger teams through excellent management, we havent for 10 years. It really disproves your point actually.

The German systems is run differently we were more successful that Chelsea last year so consistently theoney will succeed

efb

Soups123 wrote: »

You haven't proved any of your points, random comments and no substance.

The eye see what it wants to see

efb

My biggest problem is the modern football fall seems to want instant success

Alfred Borden

efb wrote: »

The German systems is run differently we were more successful that Chelsea last year

Genuinely do you ever think Wenger will win the league again?

tayto lover

efb wrote: »

The eye see what it wants to see

Well mine is seeing complete dross and a manager who is past his sell by date, is running out of excuses and who has lost the fans and it's only a matter of time until he loses the dressingroom.

efb

Raf32 wrote: »

Genuinely do you ever think Wenger will win the league again?

Not while Chelsea and City have that much money at their disposal no

Quazzie

efb wrote: »

10 would bring parity wouldn't it...

Are we just turned into glory hunters now...

That's like an argument a ten year old would make. :rolleyes:

efb

tayto lover wrote: »

Well mine is seeing complete dross and a manager who is past his sell by date, is running out of excuses and who has lost the fans and it's only a matter of time until he loses the dressingroom.

Wenger is complete dross? How many more managers have won the premier league more times than him?

Who is the most successful Arsenal manager???

omega man

efb wrote: »

The eye see what it wants to see

Well I want to see good football and to see us winning games and trophies but I'm not seeing that!

efb

omega man wrote: »

Well I want to see good football and to see us winning games and trophies but I'm not seeing that!

Every team can't win every trophy

efb

Quazzie wrote: »

That's like an argument a ten year old would make. :rolleyes:

No it's a logical answer

Alfred Borden

gunnerblog ‏@gunnerblog now4 seconds ago
AW: "We were struggling on the right side but I had no experienced players [in that position] on the bench."

No faith in Bellerin so. Why did you loan Jenkinson so?

omega man

efb wrote: »

Every team can't win every trophy

Well winning trophies is part of arsenals rich history so I'm not concerned with other teams.

Soups123

efb wrote: »

The eye see what it wants to see

And another

efb

We have a trophy (you seem to discount the CS) we are in the champions league, most fans would bite your arm off for that

tayto lover

efb wrote: »

Wenger is complete dross? How many more managers have won the premier league more times than him?

Who is the most successful Arsenal manager???

One FA Cup in 10 years.

Quazzie

efb wrote: »

We have a trophy (you seem to discount the CS) we are in the champions league, most fans would bite your arm off for that

Do you honestly regard the CS as a valid trophy?>

kronsington

Raf32 wrote: »

He doesnt fancy Bellerin or Campbell tbh. Jenkinson should be recalled straight away in January and have him and Debuchy at right back. Then we can move Chambers to backup centre back with Per. Then get a starting cb and dm and we are good to go. Thats what any right manager would do sadly.

genuinely wont be surprised if for some baffling reason, jenk isnt recalled

efb

omega man wrote: »

Well winning trophies is part of arsenals rich history so I'm not concerned with other teams.

In the 17 years Arsene has been manager we won the league 3 times only twice in the previous 25

efb

Quazzie wrote: »

Do you honestly regard the CS as a valid trophy?>

Better than nothing

enfant terrible

efb wrote: »

Not while Chelsea and City have that much money at their disposal no

Wenger would consider that a failure, he's here to win the league.

Arsenal do have the resources to win the league.

We signed two of the best players in the world in the last two seasons.

How many other teams in the league can say that?

kronsington

efb wrote: »

We have a trophy (you seem to discount the CS) we are in the champions league, most fans would bite your arm off for that

as far as i can see, you're the only one counting the Community Shield. It's simply embarrassing to label it as a trophy

efb

1953-1991 4 titles
1997 to how long to replay out rich history? 38 years! See you in 2025!

efb

enfant terrible wrote: »

Wenger would consider that a failure, he's here to win the league.

Arsenal do have the resources to win the league.

We signed two of the best players in the world in the last two seasons.

How many other teams in the league can say that?

Are either in contention for the ballon d'or?

efb

tayto lover wrote: »

One FA Cup in 10 years.

2 in ten years

omega man

efb wrote: »

In the 17 years Arsene has been manager we won the league 3 times only twice in the previous 25

We all know wengers fantastic achievements but we're talking the here and now, not 10 years ago.

He has more than deserved the last number of years to bring us back to winning trophies but one FA cup isn't enough and his well earned credit is rapidly disappearing.

Alfred Borden

The last few years has tainted Arsenes reputation for many. For me he has been our greatest ever manager and did unreal at two very different periods. The first bringing us to the top, 7 cups in 8 years. The second moving us to the Emirates and keeping us competitive and keeping us in the champions league. And after years of nothing finally capturing the FA cup. And thats where it all should have ended for me. This summer turned myself and many others. We were a joke in the market, added Sanchez and replacements until we were forced into signing Welbeck with Girpuds injury (good signing imo). And now the way we have started this year is unacceptable. I dont trust him with the money (although he deserves it after all the tough years) and I dont trust him to build a capable squad to compliment his tactics (or lack of) to win the league again! His sheer incompetence to not sign a cb and dm are startling. The fact he wasnt even gonna sign a striker until Giroud went down is just scary and negligence tbh.

GavRedKing

efb wrote: »

Not while Chelsea and City have that much money at their disposal no

Youd swear by your post that Arsenal were a struggling league 1 side with no billionaires of their own to run the club.

TUBBY

I think any supporter can expect their players to give a sh1t. Looks like that cant be said about the current crop.
that comes from Wenger. Winners demand better all the time.
the players celebrate a goal to draw in the last min v Anderlecht as if they have won the CL. Come on. No wonder Sanchez is looking around thinking WTF.

Wenger was a revolutionary manager but his last ten years as a stand alone record is not outstanding and he is looking less and less like the manager with an appetite or desire to turn things round.

4th place = achievement now for how many years.

as for fans wanting instant success, i think we were all patient. There is money there now. No DM, No CB in window is inexcusable and price being paid now.

a LOI manager would have filled obvious gaps on a shoestring rather than having the bare bones at the back before a season kicks off. Surely that's not too much to ask from a manager.

and yea, the DM and CB gripe is going to be wheeled out after a loss. It was always going to bite him if we had a run like this. Making a rod to beat himself with.

enfant terrible

efb wrote: »

Are either in contention for the ballon d'or?

What are you saying we need to be signing better players than Ozil and Sanchez to compete with Chelsea?

Quazzie

efb wrote: »

1953-1991 4 titles
1997 to how long to replay out rich history? 38 years! See you in 2025!

so you'd be happy not winning the league till 2025?

efb

omega man wrote: »

We all know wengers fantastic achievements but we're talking the here and now, not 10 years ago.

He has more than deserved the last number of years to bring us back to winning trophies but one FA cup isn't enough and his well earned credit is rapidly disappearing.

So you are only concerned with the immediate? Rome wasn't built in a day.

We invested heavily in our stadium it will take a lot to catch up with city and Chelsea

efb

Quazzie wrote: »

so you'd be happy not winning the league till 2025?

I wouldnt view it as an abysmal failure if we didn't

Soups123

Quazzie wrote: »

so you'd be happy not winning the league till 2025?

Only if we can somehow squeeze a few Emirate Cup wins in between.

efb

Soups123 wrote: »

Only if we can somehow squeeze a few Emirate Cup wins in between.

Who mentioned them???

Soups123

efb wrote: »

Who mentioned them???

Me, just there

efb

TUBBY wrote: »

I think any supporter can expect their players to give a sh1t. Looks like that cant be said about the current crop.
that comes from Wenger. Winners demand better all the time.
the players celebrate a goal to draw in the last min v Anderlecht as if they have won the CL. Come on. No wonder Sanchez is looking around thinking WTF.

Wenger was a revolutionary manager but his last ten years as a stand alone record is not outstanding and he is looking less and less like the manager with an appetite or desire to turn things round.

4th place = achievement now for how many years.

as for fans wanting instant success, i think we were all patient. There is money there now. No DM, No CB in window is inexcusable and price being paid now.

a LOI manager would have filled obvious gaps on a shoestring rather than having the bare bones at the back before a season kicks off. Surely that's not too much to ask from a manager.

and yea, the DM and CB gripe is going to be wheeled out after a loss. It was always going to bite him if we had a run like this. Making a rod to beat himself with.

How do you know he hadn't been trying to sign them???

Why would players come to arsenal ahead of city Chelsea etc...

efb

enfant terrible wrote: »

What are you saying we need to be signing better players than Ozil and Sanchez to compete with Chelsea?

They are the only two that would get into Chelsea side atm that's 9v2

Alfred Borden

efb wrote: »

They are the only two that would get into Chelsea side atm that's 9v2

Kos definitely would.

efb

GavRedKing wrote: »

Youd swear by your post that Arsenal were a struggling league 1 side with no billionaires of their own to run the club.

They are not sugar daddies

efb

Raf32 wrote: »

Kos definitely would.

He's injured Wenger didn't have him today or against Anderlecht I would say the results would have been different had he played

GavRedKing

efb wrote: »

They are the only two that would get into Chelsea side atm that's 9v2

Ozil wouldnt.

Sanchez yes, Kosclieny too and Ramsey would be close.

omega man

efb wrote: »

I wouldnt view it as an abysmal failure if we didn't

Per, that you??!!

Seriously I think you're trolling us for the laugh to cheer yourself up over your depression over arsenal!!

efb

GavRedKing wrote: »

Ozil wouldnt.

Sanchez yes, Kosclieny too and Ramsey would be close.

Where would Chelsea play Ramsey??

efb

omega man wrote: »

Per, that you??!!

Seriously I think you're trolling us for the laugh to cheer yourself up over your depression over arsenal!!

I suffer from depression in life, not caused by arsenal btw, and I don't think things are as bad as some here do

Alfred Borden

GavRedKing wrote: »

Ozil wouldnt.

Sanchez yes, Kosclieny too and Ramsey would be close.

You would take oscar over Ozil? Genuinely just asking.

efb

Mert is diliousonal I wouldn't have him in my first team if we had a better cb

omega man

efb wrote: »

I suffer from depression in life, not caused by arsenal btw, and I don't think things are as bad as some here do

You didn't say you weren't trolling then ;-)