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Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014/15

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  • #2902
    Saipanne
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭Saipanne


    GavRedKing wrote: »
    Youd swear by your post that Arsenal were a struggling league 1 side with no billionaires of their own to run the club.

    Fifth highest net spend over five seasons, or so Google tells me. Paupers...


  • #2903
    Panthro
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,829 ✭✭✭✭Panthro


    Raf32 wrote: »
    You would take oscar over Ozil? Genuinely just asking.

    Hell yes.


  • #2904
    efb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    omega man wrote: »
    You didn't say you weren't trolling then ;-)

    One doesn't troll, except the Iona Institute tweeters


  • #2905
    enfant terrible
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,592 ✭✭✭enfant terrible


    efb wrote: »
    They are the only two that would get into Chelsea side atm that's 9v2

    We could of signed Cahill or another top centre back to partner Kos, we were close to buying him before Chelsea.

    We could of signed Matic from Košice.

    We could of signed Hazard before he went to Chelsea, Wenger said he was too expensive.

    I don't think its a personnel issue anyway, if Wenger and Mourinho swapped teams I don't think Chelsea would be as good a team and Arsenal would be a much better team.

    Mourinho would sort out the defence quickly and we have plenty in attack to win the league.


  • #2906
    GavRedKing
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,262 ✭✭✭✭GavRedKing


    efb wrote: »
    They are not sugar daddies

    theyre also not grocers, theyve enough money to spend should it be needed but Wenger, for some reason seems reluctant to spend to strengthen areas where it was needed, thats a failing IMO.

    We were bad for a few years but were not as bad as City right now.


  • #2907
    Alfred Borden
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,012 ✭✭✭✭Alfred Borden


    Panthro wrote: »
    Hell yes.

    Ah right I suppose we all have different opinions. Id have Walcott over Hazard which would probably earn me a lifetime ban from this forum :pac:


  • #2908
    efb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    Saipanne wrote: »
    Fifth highest net spend over five seasons, or so Google tells me. Paupers...

    5th highest and no lower than 4th! Punching above our weight!!! :)


  • #2909
    Quazzie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,118 ✭✭✭✭Quazzie


    efb wrote: »
    5th highest and no lower than 4th! Punching above our weight!!! :)

    not at the moment we're not ;)


  • #2910
    efb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    GavRedKing wrote: »
    theyre also not grocers, theyve enough money to spend should it be needed but Wenger, for some reason seems reluctant to spend to strengthen areas where it was needed, thats a failing IMO.

    We were bad for a few years but were not as bad as City right now.

    That's cos FFP is here and Roman is under more scrutiny with his money since his mate Vlad started invading sovgein states


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  • #2911
    Saipanne
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭Saipanne


    efb wrote: »
    5th highest and no lower than 4th! Punching above our weight!!! :)

    It shows that arsenal are a wealthy side, with money to spend...


  • #2912
    GavRedKing
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,262 ✭✭✭✭GavRedKing


    Raf32 wrote: »
    You would take oscar over Ozil? Genuinely just asking.

    Same way id have oscar over mata.

    Matas a better play maker, like Ozil but Oscars a more complete player IMO and suits or way of playing and pressing better.


  • #2913
    efb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    Quazzie wrote: »
    not at the moment we're not ;)

    It's the league position after 38 games that counts


  • #2914
    efb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    Saipanne wrote: »
    It shows that arsenal are a wealthy side, with money to spend...

    How does it show they have money to spend? They could have spent all they had???


  • #2915
    Alfred Borden
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,012 ✭✭✭✭Alfred Borden


    GavRedKing wrote: »
    Same way id have oscar over mata.

    Matas a better play maker, like Ozil but Oscars a more complete player IMO and suits or way of playing and pressing better.

    Yup I suppose it depends on the team. Yee have the creativity from Fabregas, we dont have much that offers us that so need a playmaker at #10.


  • #2916
    Quazzie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,118 ✭✭✭✭Quazzie


    efb wrote: »
    It's the league position after 38 games that counts

    8 down on last year so we are on course to fall well short of 4th.


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  • #2917
    GavRedKing
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,262 ✭✭✭✭GavRedKing


    efb wrote: »
    That's cos FFP is here and Roman is under more scrutiny with his money since his mate Vlad started invading sovgein states

    Weve been making in roads into complying with ffp for a good few seasons now, im all for it but its not going to change the market place.

    Were not monaco or psg, thankfully.


  • #2918
    enfant terrible
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,592 ✭✭✭enfant terrible


    GavRedKing wrote: »
    Same way id have oscar over mata.

    Matas a better play maker, like Ozil but Oscars a more complete player IMO and suits or way of playing and pressing better.

    Mouninho would get the best out of Ozil like he did in Madrid.


  • #2919
    Saipanne
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭Saipanne


    efb wrote: »
    How does it show they have money to spend? They could have spent all they had???

    Eh, because they spent a lot of money.


    Jesus...


  • #2920
    Quazzie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,118 ✭✭✭✭Quazzie


    efb wrote: »
    How does it show they have money to spend? They could have spent all they had???

    Did you not see the link I posted that shows we have £120M cash reserves.


  • #2921
    efb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    enfant terrible wrote: »
    Mouninho would get the best out of Ozil like he did in Madrid.

    Özil was carrying a knock


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  • #2922
    efb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    Quazzie wrote: »
    Did you not see the link I posted that shows we have £120M cash reserves.

    And our net debt??? We can't just spend our cash reserves!!! We don't want to go into administration


  • #2923
    GavRedKing
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,262 ✭✭✭✭GavRedKing


    Raf32 wrote: »
    Yup I suppose it depends on the team. Yee have the creativity from Fabregas, we dont have much that offers us that so need a playmaker at #10.

    Ozils world class, no doubt though.

    But oscar cesc and matic as a 3 man midfield axis is pretty impressive and play well together.

    id still rather cesc at 10 and Oscar next to matic.


  • #2924
    Quazzie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,118 ✭✭✭✭Quazzie


    efb wrote: »
    Özil was carrying a knock

    Since the world cup, because he's been shít since he came back to us.


  • #2925
    efb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    Saipanne wrote: »
    Eh, because they spent a lot of money.


    Jesus...

    If I had €109 and spend €99 I only have €1 now

    DIsn't mean I've a lot to spend


  • #2926
    extra gravy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,665 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    Did anybody head to the Mercantile today?


  • #2927
    efb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    Quazzie wrote: »
    Since the world cup, because he's been shít since he came back to us.

    He wasn't, he had a few good games, he was slated one night on sky where I and a few good others (and cont writers) thought he'd a decent game


  • #2928
    Quazzie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,118 ✭✭✭✭Quazzie


    efb wrote: »
    And our net debt??? We can't just spend our cash reserves!!! We don't want to go into administration

    Our debt is being managed. Cash reserve is there to be spent however the club see necesary. Maybe the owners have more £3M payments to themselves in mind so they're keeping it for that.

    If I didn't know you better efb I'd think you were trolling the thread with the nonsense you're talking.


  • #2929
    efb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    Who we play at ten when Özil fit??


  • #2930
    emergingstar
    Registered Users Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭emergingstar


    I just hope that when he does go

    That every arsenal fan gives him the respect he deserves for how he built this club


  • #2931
    efb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    Quazzie wrote: »
    Our debt is being managed. Cash reserve is there to be spent however the club see necesary. Maybe the owners have more £3M payments to themselves in mind so they're keeping it for that.

    If I didn't know you better efb I'd think you were trolling the thread with the nonsense you're talking.

    Cash reserves are needed for liquidity - you can't clear it out!


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  • #2932
    Alfred Borden
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,012 ✭✭✭✭Alfred Borden


    efb wrote: »
    Who we play at ten when Özil fit??

    Ozil for me, one of the best #10's in the world. Wenger will stick him out wide though and everyone will say he is dirt.


  • #2933
    efb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    Raf32 wrote: »
    Ozil for me, one of the best #10's in the world. Wenger will stick him out wide though and everyone will say he is dirt.

    So where would you put Sanchez?


  • #2934
    enfant terrible
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,592 ✭✭✭enfant terrible


    Quazzie wrote: »
    Our debt is being managed. Cash reserve is there to be spent however the club see necesary. Maybe the owners have more £3M payments to themselves in mind so they're keeping it for that.

    If I didn't know you better efb I'd think you were trolling the thread with the nonsense you're talking.

    We have 108.9 million to spend not £207.9 million, poor us.

    Net £53m on new transfers
    Liabilities of £29m still to pay on previous transfers
    £17m of performance-related costs we expect to have to pay on top of that
    Total: £99m
    Leaves us with 108.9m

    Actually with the way the season is going we'll have an extra £17m on top of that because there will be no performance-related costs.

    http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/523492/REVEALED-Arsenal-chief-executive-Ivan-Gazdis-200m-cash-reserves


  • #2935
    TUBBY
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 828 ✭✭✭TUBBY


    efb wrote: »
    How do you know he hadn't been trying to sign them???

    Why would players come to arsenal ahead of city Chelsea etc...

    Christ, if that was the attitude, why bother at all. Why did bergkamp come all those years ago. That's a ridiculous argument. Scneiderlin was available if pushed and plenty of mid table CB's that would have been an improvement on a makeshift one.


  • #2936
    Alfred Borden
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,012 ✭✭✭✭Alfred Borden


    efb wrote: »
    So where would you put Sanchez?

    Free roaming role from the left. When he gets used to the league, centre forward for me though.


  • #2937
    Saipanne
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭Saipanne


    efb wrote: »
    If I had €109 and spend €99 I only have €1 now

    DIsn't mean I've a lot to spend

    You have ten left.

    It does if you spent more money than every person in the city, bar four others.

    It's relative to others, that's how you define what wealthy means.


  • #2938
    efb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    TUBBY wrote: »
    Christ, if that was the attitude, why bother at all. Why did bergkamp come all those years ago. That's a ridiculous argument. Scneiderlin was available if pushed and plenty of mid table CB's that would have been an improvement on a makeshift one.

    But you are assuming he didn't try- he might not have been successful in the market no one is going to come out and say that

    I agree we need a CB and a DMF


  • #2939
    efb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    Saipanne wrote: »
    You have ten left.

    It does if you spent more money than every person in the city, bar four others.

    It's relative to others, that's how you define what wealthy means.

    Typo I meant €100


  • #2940
    Soups123
    Registered Users Posts: 8,984 ✭✭✭Soups123


    emergingstar wrote: »
    I just hope that when he does go

    That every arsenal fan gives him the respect he deserves for how he built this club

    Yes if he treats the club with fairness and doesn't drag it out for another 3-5 yrs. I hope he sits himself down and decides what's best for the club before it turns into a full on fans push.

    In an ideal world Arsenal fans would love him to turn this around back to his best and us competing. Watch his outfox Mourinho, Pellegrini etc. and be the best. It's not impossible but unless things change soon the end could be very rough.


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  • #2941
    efb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    Raf32 wrote: »
    Free roaming role from the left. When he gets used to the league, centre forward for me though.

    I think that's what I had in my ideal squad


  • #2942
    efb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    "We have to always keep a substantial amount of cash in reserve at all times in order to comply with our debt obligations.


  • #2943
    Saipanne
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭Saipanne


    efb wrote: »
    Typo I meant €100

    I take it you agree then?


  • #2944
    Oranage2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,128 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    That was so ****, annoyingly so, aarrrgghh


  • #2945
    efb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    Better than all except 4 puts us 5th, but we're 4th- synergy


  • #2946
    Saipanne
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭Saipanne


    efb wrote: »
    Better than all except 4 puts us 5th, but we're 4th- synergy

    But you are a wealthy club. Yes?


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  • #2947
    Quazzie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,118 ✭✭✭✭Quazzie


    efb wrote: »
    Better than all except 4 puts us 5th, but we're 4th- synergy

    I thought we were currently 6th :confused:


  • #2948
    efb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    Quazzie wrote: »
    I thought we were currently 6th :confused:

    Final league position


  • #2949
    efb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    Saipanne wrote: »
    But you are a wealthy club. Yes?

    No where near as liquid as City or Chelsea. Liverpool and United are around us


  • #2950
    Quazzie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,118 ✭✭✭✭Quazzie


    efb wrote: »
    Final league position

    If everthing is based on final league position, then why do any clubs fire managers during the season? You're talking nonsense and you know you are.


  • #2951
    efb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    Quazzie wrote: »
    If everthing is based on final league position, then why do any clubs fire managers during the season? You're talking nonsense and you know you are.

    I'm not we can still finish in top 4 were are still in UCL why would anyone sack Arsene???


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