Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014/15

Alfred Borden

Its from AFCPresswwatch who used to post information from newspapers and all that and then started making out he had "contacts". The player signing that is.

I believe the Bould stuff and it wouldnt be a big loss he gets no input anyways!

tayto lover

Pierce_1991 wrote: »

Be very surprised if the Bouldy rumours were true, it would certainly be a very big deal if they were!

He is supposed to have a bust up with Wenger last week according to a source in London.







Really.

yipeeeee

Totally off topic and only my opinion but they never look to have a good relationship on the sideline.

It's probably wrecking his (Bouldy) head how leaky the defence is.

DenMan

Just saw that Nigeria have failed to qualify for the Africa Cup of Nations 2015 on SSN tonight! Maybe Wenger might sign a lad or two in January knowing he won't have to leave mid-season for a few weeks!

symbolic

ironkiwi wrote: »

Any good pub s around the Emirates to watch the game on Saturday? Booked flights over but couldn't get my hands on a ticket!! Damn Red Membership is no good for these kind of games.

You know about the Ticket Exchange I presume?

wonga77

I dont really understand what Bould brings to the table anyway? It doesnt seem like he has much of a say and they dont seem to be too pally on the sideline either

Ken Shamrock

Get Bergkamp into the Assistant Manager role please.

ironkiwi

symbolic wrote: »

You know about the Ticket Exchange I presume?

Got a few of ticket exchange before but they are gone very quick whenever one appears through ticket exchange for this one

king Henry 14

Bob.Carcass wrote: »

Get Bergkamp into the Assistant Manager role please.

F**k that, get him into the managers role asap

symbolic

ironkiwi wrote: »

Got a few of ticket exchange before but they are gone very quick whenever one appears through ticket exchange for this one

Hopefully ya get lucky by the end of the week.

extra gravy

It would be difficult to see Clement taking another assistant role unless he was promised the top job when Wenger goes. There were rumours last month that Wenger had given the green light for Clement to be his successor. Don't know much about him apart from that he's supposed to be a very good tactician. Though it would be a gamble considering it would be his first managerial role.

wonga77

What do ye know about Clement?

Mr Blobby

wonga77 wrote: »

What do ye know about Clement?

He's done the usually academy and U21 stuff. But for the most part he's been assistant coach at

Chelsea (Hiddink and Ancelotti)
PSG (Ancelotti)
Real Madrid (Ancelotti)

So he's definitely been working with some of the best around.

efb

Why would Arsenal want Peter Cech?

bad2dabone

efb wrote: »

Why would Arsenal want Peter Cech?

He's a quality keeper but I'd be surprised if we were after him

efb

bad2dabone wrote: »

He's a quality keeper but I'd be surprised if we were after him

We have 3 very good keepers

CatInABox

efb wrote: »

Why would Arsenal want Peter Cech?

It's an odd rumour, but that's all it is so far.

Perhaps Wenger doesn't have confidence in our third choice keeper, and is looking for an injury replacement for Ospina?

Which would then beg the question, if he's bringing in cover for a keeper, why doesn't he bring in cover for the problem area of defense?

efb

Of all the areas I'd be looking for cover, goalie isn't one of them

bad2dabone

efb wrote: »

Of all the areas I'd be looking for cover, goalie isn't one of them

Absolutely

Alfred Borden

efb wrote: »

Why would Arsenal want Peter Cech?

Because he is a top 5 GK in the world and a serious improvement on what we have.

efb

Raf32 wrote: »

Because he is a top 5 GK in the world and a serious improvement on what we have.

Really?

Alfred Borden

efb wrote: »

Really?

Yup imo. wont happen though but would be an incredible signing

efb

Raf32 wrote: »

Yup imo. wont happen though but would be an incredible signing

He's not even the No1 goalie at Chelaea tbf

Alfred Borden

efb wrote: »

He's not even the No1 goalie at Chelaea tbf

Unfair argument, both their GK's are top 5 and a good bit ahead of ours. If Szc or Ospina were at Chelsea they would be third choice

Ed Winchester

I'd rather Chesney. Goalkeeper is not a problem area for us.

efb

Raf32 wrote: »

Unfair argument, both their GK's are top 5 and a good bit ahead of ours. If Szc or Ospina were at Chelsea they would be third choice

So Chelsea have 2 of the top 5 keepers in the world?

Cech would have been top 5 in his prime but not now

Alfred Borden

efb wrote: »

So Chelsea have 2 of the top 5 keepers in the world?

Cech would have been top 5 in his prime but not now

The only Gk's better than him that I can think of is Neuer, Courtois, De Gea, Buffon and maybe LLoris, so he is right up there. Probably missing someone else now. If we got a good DM and CB, the next area I would target would be a gk but not until them areas are fixed which will prob be a few years.
Cech had a difficult time last year but still shared the much coveted in here clean sheet award with Szc. Still a fantastic GK in my eyes.

Ed Winchester

Lloris has to be the most overated keeper on the planet. Buffon is about 80 and is not better than Chesney. Nor is De Gea. Nor is Cech.

IMO

Ed Winchester

Lloris has to be the most overated keeper on the planet. Buffon is about 80 and is not better than Chesney. Nor is De Gea. Nor is Cech.

IMO

wonga77

Nah wouldnt want Cech, were pretty well stocked in that area so it shouldnt be an issue. Far more important requirements out the field.
Raf Im surprised at you, you dont rate Ches? :P

greendom

Ed Winchester wrote: »

Lloris has to be the most overated keeper on the planet. Buffon is about 80 and is not better than Chesney. Nor is De Gea. Nor is Cech.

IMO

Lloris and Cech are both better keepers than Szez imo. Szez is not that far behind them but they are undoubtedly better than him. Agree though that money is better spent in personnel directly in front of Szez

Alfred Borden

wonga77 wrote: »

Nah wouldnt want Cech, were pretty well stocked in that area so it shouldnt be an issue. Far more important requirements out the field.
Raf Im surprised at you, you dont rate Ches? :P

Haha I feel bad for not rating him that highly because he seems arsenal true and true. I just see he is around the age of courtois and De gea and nowhere near their level Imo

K4t

Ed Winchester wrote: »

Nor is De Gea.

I think 100% of neutrals and most Arsenal fans would disgree with you.

I like Schez, and with some counselling or therapy, he could become a top goalkeeper, but he is not in the same league as De Gea or Courtois who are the standout keepers in the league.

maximoose

Mr Blobby wrote: »

He's done the usually academy and U21 stuff. But for the most part he's been assistant coach at

Chelsea (Hiddink and Ancelotti)
PSG (Ancelotti)
Real Madrid (Ancelotti)

So he's definitely been working with some of the best around.

Maybe he's on his way to Arsenal to scope out club for Ancelloti

AdamD

De Gea and Courtois are on another level but I wouldn't want Lloris at all.

Ken Shamrock

Ches ain't nowhere near Courtois,De Gea,Cech,Buffon or even Lloris. Lloris is being underrated if anything nowadays because people seem to think its cool to say he's sh1t because he had a tough start at Spurs. Ches is middle of the road, averagish to me. Very nervy and unreliable in the mistakes department, a good shot stopper but I can't say I've ever looked at a game and say wow Ches was amazing glad we have him...

dinorebel

I would put Ches at about the same level as Hart good even potentially great if they cut out the rushes of blood to the head.

AdamD

Bob.Carcass wrote: »

Ches ain't nowhere near Courtois,De Gea,Cech,Buffon or even Lloris. Lloris is being underrated if anything nowadays because people seem to think its cool to say he's sh1t because he had a tough start at Spurs. Ches is middle of the road, averagish to me. Very nervy and unreliable in the mistakes department, a good shot stopper but I can't say I've ever looked at a game and say wow Ches was amazing glad we have him...

Its not cool as ****. Its the opposite in fact, it seems to be cool to rate his 'sweeping', when it actually has a negative impact on his play. He manages to create 1 on 1 situations by running out when its completely unnecessary. Ches is better than him IMO.

greendom

AdamD wrote: »

Its not cool as ****. Its the opposite in fact, it seems to be cool to rate his 'sweeping', when it actually has a negative impact on his play. He manages to create 1 on 1 situations by running out when its completely unnecessary. Ches is better than him IMO.

Is that not more down to the system Spurs play, using/relying on Lloris for his sweeping abilities (not with a brush). I think his judgement is pretty sound tbh.

Ken Shamrock

AdamD wrote: »

Its not cool as ****. Its the opposite in fact, it seems to be cool to rate his 'sweeping', when it actually has a negative impact on his play. He manages to create 1 on 1 situations by running out when its completely unnecessary. Ches is better than him IMO.

It was definetly cool to rate him for rushing out of his goal but i feel the tide has turned and now it's cool to hate on him. Whatever the "cool" thing is i think he's a very solid GK and when he was at Lyon was one of the best in the world.

Since his move he's dropped a bit maybe he's finding it difficult but the quality is still there. He can prob erase the rushing from his game but Ches is having trouble erasing mistakes from his, he also has very little to do most games and our fantastic defensive record last year made him seem a hell of a lot better then he actually is.

byrneg28

Keepers are instructed on the sweeping duties by management, it's not a trait they have and they just decide to do it or not.

It's combined with modern high lined defence, problem is Szczesny isn't very good at it , Lloris is good and Neuer is outstanding at sweeping. It's a decision making thing, I think that will develop with age. Neuer has a good 5 years more experience than Szcz, so I think he can get better.

I thought Szczesny had a very very good season last year and had a lot more to do. I think he deserved his clean sheet award as it wasn't down to JUST the defence. Notably performances vs United (h), vs Palace (a), vs West Brom (a) and vs. Dortmund (a) were terrific.

He hasn't been AS good this season but he's still a solid keeper who still has years to grow. The goals I've seen him concede this season, I don't think there's a lot he could do about. I mean it's different than Mignolet who comes out and spills balls in the air. I think a Goalkeeper should be solid and just does a job that's it, Neuer is the only keeper who has really distinguished himself as different class in goalkeeping in recent years but just because he's doing something different.

Keeper just has to do his job and be solid, claim balls, good hands, good distribution. Szcz has all of that and world class saves in his locker (vs. Jedinak, vs. v.Persie last season), just needs to get his mind right sometimes, but he vastly improved last season, cant see why he cant build on that after our mere of a season gets back on track.

No point wasting 7-12 million on a Goalkeeper who wont solve our CB problem

Ed Winchester

I can't believe how many gunners underrate our keeper. Genuinely. I think he's outstanding. People are rating him on some rash mistakes he made a few years back as a teenager. He's still very young as a keeper. And I think he'll go on to be one of the greats and an Arsenal legend. We're lucky to have him IMO. De Gea me arse. SZCZ all day every day for me.

Jaafa

Team news: http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/20141120/team-news-who-s-fit-to-face-man-united-

greendom

Jaafa wrote: »

Team news: http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/20141120/team-news-who-s-fit-to-face-man-united-

Another 3 weeks (at least) for Kos. That's a blow. Any chance Chambers will be put in the centre for Saturday ? I like Monreal but he's not a central defender.

Good news that Debuchy should be playing before the end of the year though

keano_afc

Headache over the defence alright. I shudder at the thought of Monreal up against Rooney and the skunk.

Well Chambers on the right shouldn't be happening again for a while at least. Wouldn't mind Monreal on the right tbh, he's a solid kinda player.

wandatowell

What time is the game kicking off at the weekend?

Soups123

Ed Winchester wrote: »

I can't believe how many gunners underrate our keeper. Genuinely. I think he's outstanding. People are rating him on some rash mistakes he made a few years back as a teenager. He's still very young as a keeper. And I think he'll go on to be one of the greats and an Arsenal legend. We're lucky to have him IMO. De Gea me arse. SZCZ all day every day for me.

I rate Schez, is probably one of the least of our problems but to call him better than De Gea is mad

Skylinehead

wandatowell wrote: »

What time is the game kicking off at the weekend?

Half 5 Saturday.