Near riot over a Midget horse in Finglas

pebbles21

http://youtu.be/D5PMoL57LfI

The council taking away a pony in Finglas nearly sparks off a mini riot

Several Garda cars and the Garda helicopter involved, I've seen less for a murder

They love their pets in Finglas, so they do!

fleet_admiral

Same in Tallaght, Ballyfermot and Clondalkin

My name is URL

That horse looked fairly well looked after to me. Any info on why it was taken?

Slunk

It's a joke on fairness. Try getting a garda car to your house been burgaled or whatever.

AudreyHepburn

A housing estate is no place for a horse imo. They need to be fields where they have the space to run.

The Gardai are in the right here.

Skylinehead

My name is URL wrote: »

That horse looked fairly well looked after to me. Any info on why it was taken?

Probably kept on council land I'd imagine.

pebbles21

My name is URL wrote: »

That horse looked fairly well looked after to me. Any info on why it was taken?

They have been grazing on a local grass patch for years, I suppose they didn't have any stables or private land for them

Gosub

OP, you'd be a great headline writer for one of the rags.

ColeTrain

Pig > Horse

ballsymchugh

what time of the day is that at?

one lad out brushing his teeth (1.30) and a few in their pjs...

whupdedo

Let them **** off and buy land and build stables like the rest of us had to do, a housing estate is no place for a horse, why don't they keep donkeys and cows if they have such an interest and love of animals ?

My name is URL

pebbles21 wrote: »

They have been grazing on a local grass patch for years, I suppose they didn't have any stables or private land for them

Is that something that they're only starting to crack down on now? There's a dozen or more estates around the country that have horses and ponies grazing on public green areas.

I mean it makes sense that it shouldn't be something that's allowed, but it's kinda sad to see a well cared for animal been taken away while hundreds of neglected ones sit in stables around the country, or go unfed for weeks in private fields.

SEPT 23 1989

first pony making his escape from the trailer:D

Harry Palmr

ballsymchugh wrote: »

what time of the day is that at?

one lad out brushing his teeth (1.30) and a few in their pjs...

Could be any time of the day in certain estates.

kingchess

did they put the wrong animal in the horse box??

My name is URL

ColeTrain wrote: »

Pig > Horse

http://i.imgur.com/ff1vHPR.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/rDhBTV3.jpg

anncoates

Thread title meets with my approval.

anewme

anncoates wrote: »

Thread title meets with my approval.

Definitely one of the funniest titles in ages.

conorh91

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

They need to be fields where they have the space to run.

If that were the case, horses would be seized from every dressage yard in the country. Most serious dressage horses are locked up in stables for most of the day, and are exercised over sand, in enclosed arenas. The same usually applied to racehorses, during training season.

As a rule of thumb, the most professional horse owners won't keep their animals on grass.

It's a massive misconception that horses 'belong' in paddocks, when in reality they 'belong' in 12 x 14 ft boxes.

If horses keep some kids out of prison, then barring serious neglect, I'm all for those kids keeping horses.

namloc1980

What that video really highlights is the frightening spread of VVS (Vertical Video Syndrome). Worse than Ebola it is.

anewme

conorh91 wrote: »

If that were the case, horses would be seized from every dressage yard in the country. Most serious dressage horses are locked up in stables for most of the day, and are exercised over sand, in enclosed arenas. The same usually applied to racehorses, during training season.

As a rule of thumb, the most professional horse owners won't keep their animals on grass.

It's a massive misconception that horses 'belong' in paddocks, when in reality they 'belong' in 12 x 14 ft boxes.

If horses keep some kids out of prison, then barring serious neglect, I'm all for those kids keeping horses.

I work in an area where there are a lot of horses kept on the green area that we can see from our offices. My boss and another guy ended up having to leave our office and go and offer to buy back a horse where it was being beaten with a pipe and we could not bear to look at it.

Same area on the way home one evening, horse driven to its death on one of those gig things, collapsed on the road, guys detatched the gig and got a van to tow it away before the gardai came....horse left dead on the road.

again same area, horses left to starve to death in muddy fields over Christmas.....

there are more horrible stories of how these horses in these estates are treated than nice ones..........

I am totally against it. A housing estate is no place for a horse. I grew up in a council estate. There were no horses in the Estate and yet I dont think one person went to prison.

Gatling

Don't see why they can't allow a certain army unit to come in an euthanise these horses

conorh91

anewme wrote: »

I work in an area where there are a lot of horses kept on the green area that we can see from our offices. My boss and another guy ended up having to leave our office and go and offer to buy back a horse where it was being beaten with a pipe and we could not bear to look at it.

Same area on the way home one evening, horse driven to its death on one of those gig things, collapsed on the road, guys detatched the gig and got a van to tow it away before the gardai came....horse left dead on the road.

Hmm not sure what this has to do with my basic point about horses 'needing' or deserving fields.

Everybody accepts that serious negligence is bad and deserves punishment.

But no knowledgable horse person will claim that a horse "needs" fields, or that depriving a horse of rolling countryside is neglect.

It's townies over-reacting.

the_syco

I'm assuming these people do a lot of travelling, boss?

Tails142

So glad that really annoying woman in the white top gets arrested. Had to laugh at her shouting to someone to turn off the cooker, probably worried all her prepay electricity units would be gone when she gets home. My taxes at work, so proud.

Omackeral

Only in Ireland can it be considered extremely posh to own a horse or else extremely scummy. There's no middle ground.

fedor.2.

Tis a very thin blue line indeed. Parts of this country are a fcuking powder keg

Jimminy Mc Fukhead

conorh91 wrote: »

Hmm not sure what this has to do with my basic point about horses 'needing' or deserving fields.

Everybody accepts that serious negligence is bad and deserves punishment.

But no knowledgable horse person will claim that a horse "needs" fields, or that depriving a horse of rolling countryside is neglect.

It's townies over-reacting.

Us townies won't tolerate stray animals wandering around the streets, thanks. Won't stand by with horses tied up with no access to water or food or otherwise mistreated.

anewme

conorh91 wrote: »

Hmm not sure what this has to do with my basic point about horses 'needing' or deserving fields.

Everybody accepts that serious negligence is bad and deserves punishment.

But no knowledgable horse person will claim that a horse "needs" fields, or that depriving a horse of rolling countryside is neglect.

It's townies over-reacting.

My point is that I dont agree with keeping horses in these Estates at all.

A housing Estate is not a place for a horse.

Also, I dont see how horses in housing estates keep people out of prison. That's a major cop out.

From what I have seen first hand the majority of these horses have a horrible life and death would be a release.

If there is a project like there is in Cherry Orchard (or was not sure if it is still running) that has proper facilities, then by all means yes, but buying horses at the likes of Smithfield and leaving horses tethered on random council or corporation green areas is just not acceptable.

I hate driving through these areas and seeing gangs of young guys galloping up the road with horses with ropes wrapped around them. Its just an accident waiting to happen and my heart goes out to these horses.

wendell borton

They should sent in army sniper teams to pick off the feral horses, would probably be doing them a favour.

Omackeral

That loudmouth one in the white top calling all the Gardai animals should take a long hard look at herself. Behaving like an absolute toe rag she is. If a bloke got in a cops face like that calling them F'n Cnuts and and threatening them he'd be dealt with in a second, and rightly so. Any kids around there will think that's how you are supposed to talk to police. Vicious circle.

Richard Hillman

I really do not get this whole theory that these teenagers having horses keeps them out of trouble. Lets be honest, if some teenage girl from Foxrock acted like a brat because daddy wouldnt buy her a pony, she would be condemned.

These horse kids in poorer areas and their entitlement parents are just brats.

Riddle101

You know your Irish when the whole neighborhood comes out to watch what's happening.

PeteFalk78

the_syco wrote: »

I'm assuming these people do a lot of travelling, boss?

Yeah I think they're all descendants of that American automotive engineer, born on November 7th 1883. I forgot his name.

Miss Lizzie Jones

Omackeral wrote: »

That loudmouth one in the white top calling all the Gardai animals should take a long hard look at herself. Behaving like an absolute toe rag she is. If a bloke got in a cops face like that calling them F'n Cnuts and and threatening them he'd be dealt with in a second, and rightly so. Any kids around there will think that's how you are supposed to talk to police. Vicious circle.

Where I come from she would have never gotten away with that as long as she did. Stupid woman.

Simonigs1.0

What utter, utter scumbags the residents of that estate seem to be. Seeing that lady being arrested towards the end made me happy.

mickydoomsux

Gatling wrote: »

Don't see why they can't allow a certain army unit to come in an euthanise these horses

Yeah, "the horses" , let's euthanize "the horses" for the betterment of society.

Omackeral

Simonigs1.0 wrote: »

What utter, utter scumbags the residents of that estate seem to be. Seeing that lady being arrested towards the end made me happy.

That's stretching it.

crannglas

Skylinehead wrote: »

Probably kept on council land I'd imagine.

eh who says what land belongs to the council in first place. Did you not hear the girl " we have a stable around the corner,walk around and I show you. Couldn't watch anymore when that **** was pulling out of that poor pony. It so obviously was distressed and him dragging out of its tail. Probably kill it and sell it as meat to France. Very upset watching that. Those girls obviously take good care of their animals. She offered to put the horse in for them and they wouldn't let her. Disgusted by garda actions. They were very disrespectful of situation. That man who dragged out of the horse like it was a slab of meat on a hook should be sacked. What the hell were so many Garda doing there for. Only people shouting and roaring was the owners (rightly so) Gardai should be doing their real job arresting criminals and not evicting old people and taking peoples pets off them when not abused. Seriously annoyed by that footage. Fuming now.

mickydoomsux

crannglas wrote: »

eh who says what land belongs to the council in first place. Did you not hear the girl " we have a stable around the corner,walk around and I show you. Couldn't watch anymore when that **** was pulling out of that poor pony. It so obviously was distressed and him dragging out of its tail. Probably kill it and sell it as meat to France. Very upset watching that. Those girls obviously take good care of their animals. She offered to put the horse in for them and they wouldn't let her. Disgusted by garda actions. They were very disrespectful of situation. That man who dragged out of the horse like it was a slab of meat on a hook should be sacked. What the hell were so many Garda doing there for. Only people shouting and roaring was the owners (rightly so) Gardai should be doing their real job arresting criminals and not evicting old people and taking peoples pets off them when not abused. Seriously annoyed by that footage. Fuming now.

Don't worry, you can get a new horse for, like, €50.

Gatling

mickydoomsux wrote: »

Yeah, "the horses" , let's euthanize "the horses" for the betterment of society.

Let's do I'll gladly lend a hand or bullet's

apoeiguq3094y

crannglas wrote: »

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She offered to put the horse in for them and they wouldn't let her. Disgusted by garda actions.
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I can see that going well. I am sure that as soon as she had a hold of the horse she would do as she promised and not run off with it. That definitely wouldn't happen.

crannglas

mickydoomsux wrote: »

Don't worry, you can get a new horse for, like, €50.

You don't get it do you? That girl was obviously very upset and they handled situation completely wrong. That horse you could tell is obviously loved by that family. If you cant find empathy your problem.

corner of hells

Gatling wrote: »

Let's do I'll gladly lend a hand or bullet's

Would you not need a gun to go with your hand and bullet ?

hardCopy

namloc1980 wrote: »

What that video really highlights is the frightening spread of VVS (Vertical Video Syndrome). Worse than Ebola it is.

I was against it too, until I realised I watch 90% of videos on my phone. Vertical Portrait Video means I don't have to rotate my phone.

crannglas

Rojomcdojo wrote: »

Looked like they were arresting criminals to me. A housing estate is no place for a horse, what more is there to get?

So people who own a horse just because not loaded and fight and stand up for themselves are criminals. OK good luck enjoy bending over.

mickydoomsux

crannglas wrote: »

You don't get it do you? That girl was obviously very upset and they handled situation completely wrong. That horse you could tell is obviously loved by that family. If you cant find empathy your problem.

Yeah, she was clearly upset by the way she was braying insults and threats at an actual human.

Her love for her horse overrides any laws she might be breaking.

I'm the one in the wrong here.

crannglas

crannglas wrote: »

You don't get it do you? That girl was obviously very upset and they handled situation completely wrong. That horse you could tell is obviously loved by that family. If you cant find empathy your problem.

If they actually loved horses, they wouldn't have gotten one without the proper facilities to take care of one.

crannglas

apoeiguq3094y wrote: »

I can see that going well. I am sure that as soon as she had a hold of the horse she would do as she promised and not run off with it. That definitely wouldn't happen.

She offered to put him in because that guy was mistreating it. If she ran off with the horse then she could be told no. Again handled completely inappropriately by garda.

conorh91

anewme wrote: »

Also, I dont see how horses in housing estates keep people out of prison. That's a major cop out.

Really? You genuinely don't see that?

It seems obvious that giving young lads an adrenalin rush that doesn't involve criminal behaviour could help prevent criminal behaviour.

It seems obvious that a productive pastime can keep young lads off the streets and out of trouble.

Nobody supports serious animal neglect, or horses roaming the roads. But a housing estate is not a bad place for horses per se. As I said, people with no experience of horses often misunderstand the needs of horses.

crannglas

crannglas wrote: »

So people who own a horse just because not loaded and fight and stand up for themselves are criminals. OK good luck enjoy bending over.

Bending over because I don't like animal cruelty?