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Sick dog

  • 03-10-2014 8:45pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,821 ✭✭✭✭


    My 9 year old St. Bernard has been on a drip for the last 4 days and hasn't atr food for nearly a week. Vet says she has liver damage but she might pull through if she just eats. She's coming home tomorrow, back to her normal environment in the hope she'll eat. She did eat some ham, but only a little and that's all. Does anybody have any idea what I can try with her? I've tried cooked chicken, beef, mince, and even sausages.
    If she dosent eat this weekend then it's probably the end for her and I'm dreading it. This is her last hope.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 267 ✭✭coathanger


    Sorry to hear about your dog. Have you tried baby rice,make it up very runny to start with & put a little on your fingers to see will he lick it off until he progresses to eating it himself. My Jrt was v sick & couldn't keep anything down & had no interest in anything even water, I was told to try this & I did & he has come on now in leaps & bounds & is lying in front of fire as I type.
    Will keep fingers crossed for your dog.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,610 ✭✭✭muddypaws


    The vet probably sells Hills prescription wet food, which I've always found dogs will eat, no matter how ill they are. The other possibility is wet cat food, again, the smell of it usually entices a dog. I wouldn't normally advocate cat food for a dog, as it is very high in protein and can cause health problems, but in this instance it might be worth a try.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,821 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    Thanks guys I'll try that tomorrow


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,129 ✭✭✭my friend


    Dtp1979 wrote: »
    Thanks guys I'll try that tomorrow

    Best wishes.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,688 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Good luck, I'd a seven year old Wolfhound succumb to kidney failure and it was horrid, not the same as you, but those giant breeds would break your heart with their short lifespan


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    Can't offer any advice but send you Best wishes. x x


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 709 ✭✭✭belongtojazz


    I had a JRT go into kidney failure after an op a few years ago. The vet spent 4 days with her on a drip trying to feed her and eventually sent her home with the idea she was probably not going to make it. As soon as she got back into our house she was like a different dog and ate straight away.
    She was too stressed to eat while at the vets


  • Registered Users Posts: 120 ✭✭dealornodeal23


    Sorry to hear about your dog. Try giving him boiled chicken and rice what I do is boil a fillet of chicken and after 10 mins put in a small bag of rice and boil it for 10 mins my dogs love it when they are off food. Good luck.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,815 ✭✭✭lulu1


    OP did u ever try wheat grass The vet has told a friend of mine that her 7 year old boxer has kidney failure. Some one told to try wheatgrass which she did and he is now a different dog(although he is still peeing alll over the place) he has also started to eat . Dont know how long this will last but nothing beats a try.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭AlanS181824


    Can't really help other than to wish you and your dog my best wishes.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 583 ✭✭✭Inexile


    scrambled egg is another suggestion.

    Hope your dog improves. 9 is a good age for a Saint but lets hope he makes 10.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,821 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    Inexile wrote: »
    scrambled egg is another suggestion.

    Hope your dog improves. 9 is a good age for a Saint but lets hope he makes 10.

    I thought she'd live longer as she was showing no signs of old age until now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,821 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    So far she's turned her nose to hills wet food and baby rice. So I fed her a fistful of hills forcefully. She swallowed it so hopefully it helps. I've given her baby rice with a syringe into her mouth and she didn't mind that. Fingers crossed


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    I would go to another vet for a second opinion. It doesn't look good, I'm afraid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,821 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    I would go to another vet for a second opinion. It doesn't look good, I'm afraid.

    A second opinion on what though? She's had blood tests that confirms she has liver trouble. She just took a denta stick off me so that's a good sign. She had no interest yesterday


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    Dtp1979 wrote: »
    A second opinion on what though? She's had blood tests that confirms she has liver trouble. She just took a denta stick off me so that's a good sign. She had no interest yesterday

    On food or medication. How serious is the liver trouble? Is it a tumour? Sorry if I seem insensitive, but I'd be very worried about a dog that size not eating and another vet might be more experienced in larger breeds.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,821 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    On food or medication. How serious is the liver trouble? Is it a tumour? Sorry if I seem insensitive, but I'd be very worried about a dog that size not eating and another vet might be more experienced in larger breeds.

    She had no interest in anything yesterday or the day before. Today she's showing signs of improvement. I'm feeding her very small amounts of food now trying to get her back to normal


  • Registered Users Posts: 85 ✭✭lovelyjubbly


    Lidl or Aldi pate. High in protein but it's like crack to dogs.


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    Dtp1979 wrote: »
    She had no interest in anything yesterday or the day before. Today she's showing signs of improvement. I'm feeding her very small amounts of food now trying to get her back to normal

    Fingers crossed that she continues to eat. It can be a pain trying to figure out what a sick dog will eat!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,277 ✭✭✭aonb


    Lidl or Aldi pate. High in protein but it's like crack to dogs.

    Thats good! :)

    OP I went through this with my elderly dog - his liver & kidney just started to fail, in his case he was very old - but trying to get him to eat something/anything became an obsession. I feel so sorry for you. Try the Aldi/Lidl Pate - who cares if its high in protein - if you can get her strong and interested enough, you can reduce the protein again - for her liver - when shes back on her feet. My guy would eat tiny bits of scrambled egg, but the 1 thing I could usually get in to him was the ROYAL CANIN wet food for RENAL FAILURE. Very nice smelling :cool: and worth a try - costs a fortune, but worth a try...

    I love the giant breeds, but could never face having one again with their (relatively) short life spans. I hope your girl picks up, and you get to keep her for another while.


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 9,770 Mod ✭✭✭✭DBB


    I've had a dog with liver problems too OP, and for all intents and purposes, I think they feel as we do when we've a really bad hangover, and that's why they don't feel like eating.
    Liverish dogs don't like fat, and often really don't like eggs!
    You might find that if you can get some sort of stewy broth into her which contains some ginger, the ginger helps to reduce that nauseous, liverish feeling. Milk thistle from the health food shop can have the same effect. Your vet should be able to supply you with a liver supplement called Samylin, which should also help improve her icky feeling, and hence improve her appetite.
    Often if you can just get them eating something, just get them started, you'll get them to eat.
    Good luck :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,821 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    DBB wrote: »
    I've had a dog with liver problems too OP, and for all intents and purposes, I think they feel as we do when we've a really bad hangover, and that's why they don't feel like eating.
    Liverish dogs don't like fat, and often really don't like eggs!
    You might find that if you can get some sort of stewy broth into her which contains some ginger, the ginger helps to reduce that nauseous, liverish feeling. Milk thistle from the health food shop can have the same effect. Your vet should be able to supply you with a liver supplement called Samylin, which should also help improve her icky feeling, and hence improve her appetite.
    Often if you can just get them eating something, just get them started, you'll get them to eat.
    Good luck :o

    Sorry I'm not much of a cook. What do you mean by stewy broth and how do you make it??


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 9,770 Mod ✭✭✭✭DBB


    Dtp1979 wrote: »
    Sorry I'm not much of a cook. What do you mean by stewy broth and how do you make it??

    Oh, sorry op!
    With my liver patient, I'd stew up some chicken or turkey breast (the darker leg meat can be a turn-off for liverish dogs, I think because it's more greasy), potatoes, carrots, and some sort of green veg, like broccoli or peas. Carrots are meant to be great for liver patients, and spuds are good purifiers. A bit of ginger chopped up into it is great.
    You could use a low-salt gluten-free chicken stock (like knorr stock pots). Many dogs prefer their food warm too, and a stew like this is great doggy comfort food.
    Try a small amount first, no point in making a huge amount only to discover she doesn't like it :)
    Do try to get your mitts on milk thistle too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,821 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    DBB wrote: »
    Oh, sorry op!
    With my liver patient, I'd stew up some chicken or turkey breast (the darker leg meat can be a turn-off for liverish dogs, I think because it's more greasy), potatoes, carrots, and some sort of green veg, like broccoli or peas. Carrots are meant to be great for liver patients, and spuds are good purifiers. A bit of ginger chopped up into it is great.
    You could use a low-salt gluten-free chicken stock (like knorr stock pots). Many dogs prefer their food warm too, and a stew like this is great doggy comfort food.
    Try a small amount first, no point in making a huge amount only to discover she doesn't like it :)
    Do try to get your mitts on milk thistle too.

    Do I make it watery or have loads of meat/veg in it and make it kinda lumpy/chewy?
    And thanks again


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 9,770 Mod ✭✭✭✭DBB


    Dtp1979 wrote: »
    Do I make it watery or have loads of meat/veg in it and make it kinda lumpy/chewy?
    And thanks again

    Lumpy/chewy :)


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    DBB wrote: »
    Lumpy/chewy :)

    You could eat that yourself! sounds delicious! What about fish, or would that be too oily?


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 9,770 Mod ✭✭✭✭DBB


    You could eat that yourself! sounds delicious! What about fish, or would that be too oily?

    Lol, I'd been going to say to the op that if the poor dog doesn't eat it, the humans can :o
    But I'm keeping everything crossed that the dog will eat it :)
    Oily fish might be a bit on the oily side alright, white fish might be an alternative though. I don't know how other owners of liverish dogs got on, but mine really became turned off by fatty or oily food, she wouldn't touch it despite wanting to eat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,821 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    DBB wrote: »
    Lol, I'd been going to say to the op that if the poor dog doesn't eat it, the humans can :o
    But I'm keeping everything crossed that the dog will eat it :)
    Oily fish might be a bit on the oily side alright, white fish might be an alternative though. I don't know how other owners of liverish dogs got on, but mine really became turned off by fatty or oily food, she wouldn't touch it despite wanting to eat.

    I'll go but the ingredients shortly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,821 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    No good news unfortunately. She sniffed it alright but wouldn't touch it. I blended some up for her with extra ginger and syringed it into her mouth. She took about a mug of it. It's the only thing that she dosent throw back up apart from the hills food. She's ate nothing voluntarily yet so that's a bad sign. I'm clutching at straws now. I'll ask the vet if there's any pill she can take for the nausea and maybe that'll get her apetite back.


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 9,770 Mod ✭✭✭✭DBB


    Aw sorry OP :(
    Now, I am not a vet by any stretch :o but your vet may be able to give her something to stimulate her appetite.
    These are really hard times OP. They can be very up and down with their liver. You got a good dose into her tonight, hopefully she'll feel a little brighter with it :o


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