Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - See Mod Warning in OP, 09/11

Kerrydude1981

Jimmy Iovine wrote: »

I, for one, would be in favour of Wilson starting ahead of RvP in the next match. Until Falcao comes back, I think he should be given a chance. Robin is way off, and doesn't look like regaining his form any time soon.

RVP is a pale shadow of his former self

Id put Rooney up front and let Di Maria play off him

irishfeen

For all the sh!te Smalling got in here after the City i'm delighted for him today - man of the match for me.

Montroseee

irishfeen wrote: »

For all the sh!te Smalling got in here after the City i'm delighted for him today - man of the match for me.

That's a ridiculous opinion, just plain wrong. He played ok today, nothing more.

Lord TSC

irishfeen wrote: »

For all the sh!te Smalling got in here after the City i'm delighted for him today - man of the match for me.

Was poor in the first half when they carved us open a few times. Made some decent interceptions in the second half, but nowhere near MOTY candidate....

duffman13

kryogen wrote: »

I genuinely couldn't be happier that Fellaini is proving the "he isn't good enough for Man United" brigade wrong more and more with each passing game, right now he is making himself a vital member of the team never mind squad.

I Once referred to him as a lanky lump with a dodgy afro when we signed him. Happy to say I'm starting to eat my words!

Kylo Ren

De Gea and Fellaini

irishfeen

Montroseee wrote: »

That's a ridiculous opinion, just plain wrong. He played ok today, nothing more.

He was very good today.

kryogen

irishfeen wrote: »

For all the sh!te Smalling got in here after the City i'm delighted for him today - man of the match for me.

The problem with him is consistency and fitness, he has it in him to be a super player, he has displayed what he can do already and was well on his way to establishing himself in the side.

He needs to put a run of good performances together and actually stay fit for a while!

The Moldy Gowl

Don't know how herrara will get back into the team. I prefer Fellaini. Far bigger and stronger.

beno619

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

Oh no. I read it. I was sick and tired if reading the same ****e from you. I simply couldn't be arsed replying. Is that a problem?

Tbf your the only one peddling ****e, RVP was horrible today regardless of my thoughts on Welbeck who you brought up...again.

UnitedIrishman

kryogen wrote: »

I genuinely couldn't be happier that Fellaini is proving the "he isn't good enough for Man United" brigade wrong more and more with each passing game, right now he is making himself a vital member of the team never mind squad.

As one of the aforementioned brigade, I'm delighted to be proven wrong game after game. He's becoming a big part of the team right now.

irishfeen

kryogen wrote: »

The problem with him is consistency and fitness, he has it in him to be a super player, he has displayed what he can do already and was well on his way to establishing himself in the side.

He needs to put a run of good performances together and actually stay fit for a while!

Aye totally agree with this - he got an awful doing here after city which I thought was a massive overreaction.

keeponhurling

kryogen wrote: »

I genuinely couldn't be happier that Fellaini is proving the "he isn't good enough for Man United" brigade wrong more and more with each passing game, right now he is making himself a vital member of the team never mind squad.

Fair enough.

However he was very very poor last season, you can't deny that.
Even given most of the squad played poorly last season.

He's got his mojo back though !

The Moldy Gowl

beno619 wrote: »

Tbf your the only one peddling ****e, RVP was horrible today regardless of my thoughts on Welbeck who you brought up...again.

I don't want to talk about rvp. He wasn't great, not sure how this affects the group of Danny lovers in here.
We are talking about Danny, who I will always bring up just to prove ye wrong.

He wanted to leave. Life moves on. Was selling Ronaldo a bigger mistake?

edgecutter

Buddy Holly wrote: »

Great result /poor performance!

Win is a win though!

Probably highlights how poor we were when DDG was our best player. Also our first shot on goal came in the 85th minute when Rooney put us 2 - 0.
Rooney was outstanding, worked tirelessly and took his goal fantastically. Played a real captains part. Honorable mentions to the wing backs and Carrick/Fellani who worked hard and improved as the game went on.

Thought we defended decently, smalling especially was impressive.

RVP yet again was woeful how he is getting the team is beyond me. Di Maria was anonymous for the most part, miss at the end could have cost us. Decent pass for Rooneys goal however so not all bad.

All in all a good result, first away win of the season and with two home games coming up a chance to push on.

Have to remember that we have so many injuries and it forced us to play 3-5-2 again. So on that basis we did brilliantly.

keeponhurling

I notice Vidal isn't playing for Juve now.

With his injury record perhaps for the best he didn't come

edgecutter

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

Don't know how herrara will get back into the team. I prefer Fellaini. Far bigger and stronger.

He adds something that we are lacking. He annoys teams with his height and physicality and that has proved useful so far. Van gaal has also tamed him a little from last year.

Kylo Ren

keeponhurling wrote: »

I notice Vidal isn't playing for Juve now.

With his injury record perhaps for the best he didn't come

He'd have fit right in.

Hococop

keeponhurling wrote: »

I notice Vidal isn't playing for Juve now.

With his injury record perhaps for the best he didn't come

Is he injured or has he fallen out of favor?

Hococop

Ha Graeme hates the fact we won

I love it

PhlegmyMoses

I didn't think that Smalling was great today. For a big lad he seems to be physically bullied quite a lot and his positioning can be suspect. His pace is such an important get out of jail card though, as shown by his tackle on Welbeck.

Our right side needs serious work. So many problems started out that side today and Valencua just isn't the man for the job.

Drop RVP, Rooney up top with Di Maria behind him. Di Maria is far more of a threat infield and RVP looks like he might be done. Rooney hits purple patches and you need to nake the most out of them when he does.

Carrick was our best player today imo, so intelligent off the ball and keeps possession ticking over.

Delighted with the result but annoyed with the performance.

RobertKK

Souness isn't happy.

beno619

Have to say I though Arsenal were going to tear us a new one but thankfully they stayed true to form.

We really need to kick on and get maximum point from the next few games and fingers crossed a few players back from injury.

Liam O

Smalling has good defensive skill I think but is a liability with the ball at his feet. Central in a 3 man defense really suited him like it did Vlaar at the world cup.

beno619

PhlegmyMoses wrote: »

Our right side needs serious work. So many problems started out that side today and Valencua just isn't the man for the job.

Val did well in all fairness, not really his fault he was exposed.

While RVP was rightfully taken of Herrera probably should have came on to offer a bit more protection on the right.

RobertKK

Ashley Young did alright too. I think he is better under LVG than under the previous two managers.

Ordinary man

Rooney needs to be pushed up top as rvp is not cutting it. Mata, herrera and di maria can all do a job as the number 10

Will I Amnt

RobertKK wrote: »

Souness isn't happy.

I love the way Souness auto-corrects to sourness on my phone :pac:

PhlegmyMoses

beno619 wrote: »

Val did well in all fairness, not really his fault he was exposed.

While RVP was rightfully taken of Herrera probably should have came on to offer a bit more protection on the right.

He is not bad out there, but not bad isn't good enough when he will inevitably play 33% of our games in that position due to Rafael being injured.

My big problem with Valencia is that he tucks un too much. We had a 5 man defence and they are still getting acres on the right to whip crosses in. He has so much pace that ge can afford to commit to pushing out a bit more.

Giggsy11

Not a great performance but a very very good win given the circumstances. Whole defense was injured. Our defense was Right winger, Reserve CB who was CM 18 months ago, Smalling, Reserve CB who was LB till this season and a winger as Shaw was injured.

Arsenal's finishing was really poor but with our injury crisis I would have gladly taken 1 point before the start of the game.

Smalling was very good, De Gea brilliant and Fellaini was good in the second half winning many tackles. Young did well.

Mr_Red

Great win.... We still look poor

Actually we look as bad as most teams in the PL


so unless we step it up I can see 4th spot as a revolving door each week

PhlegmyMoses

Hococop wrote: »

Ha Graeme hates the fact we won

I love it

He's just hoping that we fall down the league so people have a new end of an era story that doesn't involve him causing it.

Giggsy11

Squawka Football ‏@Squawka 55m55 minutes ago

Robin van Persie completed just two passes vs. Arsenal today, one of which was from kick off in the first half.

That stat is horrendous.

The only pass I can remember is the one where he received the pass in the box, surrounded by 3 Arsenal players so he passed it back to Valencia and from there to De Gea.

titan18

Giggsy11 wrote: »

Squawka Football ‏@Squawka 55m55 minutes ago


That stat is horrendous.

The only pass I can remember is the one where he received the pass in the box, surrounded by 3 Arsenal players so he passed it back to Valencia and from there to De Gea.

We need to drop him. Play Rooney up front and Fellaini in behind with Herrera in midfield. Wilson would offer more atm as he at least has some pace about him.

RobertKK

Combined score from our matches against Chelsea, Man city and arsenal is 3-3.

Four points, pity Smalling happened v city, because otherwise it was much better than expected.

DM_7

And Mata can't get game time, RVP needs a kick up the hole so should be 'rested'

beno619

DM_7 wrote: »

And Mata can't get game time, RVP needs a kick up the hole so should be 'rested'

He's being indulged big time, Hull or Stoke might be a decent time to "rest" him.

kryogen

I love Van Gaals post match interviews, he is on MUTV right now, so frank and direct.

The Moldy Gowl

We have conceded 3 goals against man city Chelsea and arsenal. I don't think our defense is as 'leaky' as some suspect.

Inexperienced. Oh god yes.

J. Marston

Lets all laugh at Jack...

Snip. Try to avoid PL gifs please...

kryogen

How are we doing now then with the oul reliable Moyes v Van Gaal points total and league position?

Would it by any chance be a better league position but still a slightly worse points total? Don't think we hit top four at all last season, or got above sixth in fact!

Hopefully overtake the points total too so that pointless comparison one can go away for good also

kryogen

Can you imagine if Fellaini did it

J. Marston wrote: »

Lets all laugh at Jack...

The Moldy Gowl

kryogen wrote: »

How are we doing now then with the oul reliable Moyes v Van Gaal points total and league position?

Well Southampton are still out rivals, so I guess there is that?

Rayne Wooney

Just saw the result and league table

Excellent

kryogen

Fellainis reaction to him is comical actually

kryogen

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

Well Southampton are still out rivals, so I guess there is that?

Interested in how they do this season, guts ripped out over the summer but Koeman has a record which suggests he improves teams over a season, starting slower and finishing better.

I don't think they will hang in there at the business end for a top four place but interested to see if they can make a fist of it. I quite like Koeman

Hank Scorpio

kryogen wrote: »

Fellainis reaction to him is comical actually

Yeah like a slight annoyance like dog poop on your runner. He did well not to react

Manutd_4life

kryogen wrote: »

Fellainis reaction to him is comical actually

Yeah, would be hilarious if Fellaini had a go at Wilshire. Wilshire looked like such an idiot.

Montroseee

What a stupid thing for Wilshire to do, especially as the ref was so close.

Hococop

Should fellaini have gone down after the headbutt?