Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - See Mod Warning in OP, 09/11

Your Airbag

irishfeen wrote: »

Any injury updates lads? ..

Stubbed me toe on the coffee table last night whilst tweeting on my IPAD.

Still at me this morning but should be ok for 5-a-side on Thursday night.

ElChe32

Pulled my hammy doing keepy uppies in the back yard, doesn't look good lads. Probably out for Saturday.

irishfeen

Your Airbag wrote: »

Stubbed me toe on the coffee table last night whilst tweeting on my IPAD.

Still at me this morning but should be ok for 5-a-side on Thursday night.

"IPAD" ... Jesus aren't you right fancy now. Far from iPads you....

Headshot

That Everton save, will live long in the memory for me. Unbelievable save

Mitch Connor

Trilla wrote: »

I think something like this did the rounds before no? Not sure if it was Gent though

We had a deal in place with Royal Antwerp in Belgium for a while, that must have ended. Think we had something with FC Twente in Holland too, but not sure what is going on there.

Timmyctc

Kerrydude1981 wrote: »

Big Dave.

Love this man so much. But why do people who make these videos insist on putting the awfullest music on it :P I read the title and was expecting Come Alive by Foo Fighters or something :pac:

Timmyctc

Timmyctc wrote: »

Love this man so much. But why do people who make these videos insist on putting the awfullest music on it :P I read the title and was expecting Come Alive by Foo Fighters or something :pac:

You're a mindreader!

josip

Flights - €70.
Stansted Express - €40.
Presents in lieu of match ticket - €60.
Sitting amongst the Arsenal supporters shouting "Come on Arsenal" while your team are 2 - 0 up; priceless.

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For everything else there's Mastercard

Bandana boy

Cookiemunster wrote: »

Isn't that pretty much the same relationship we have with Antwerp? We sent the Chinese guy Dong there to get a work permit.

[Beavis impression ]Dong Huh huh [/]

homerjay2005

any of you believe that our current injury nightmare could be in part down to us having only one game a week, thus are training differently to the norm, more contact training, more instense training etc etc.

it seems that alot of the injuries we get, are taking place outside of match environment (Evans, Rojo out of current bunch excepted). in previous years, a week like this week we would have the game saturday evening, perhaps a light session sunday and monday and then travel off for a mid week game.

now we have the scenario where the players are probably training for 4 or 5 days in a row after games and its perhaps causing issues.

Timmyctc

homerjay2005 wrote: »

any of you believe that our current injury nightmare could be in part down to us having only one game a week, thus are training differently to the norm, more contact training, more instense training etc etc.

it seems that alot of the injuries we get, are taking place outside of match environment (Evans, Rojo out of current bunch excepted). in previous years, a week like this week we would have the game saturday evening, perhaps a light session sunday and monday and then travel off for a mid week game.

now we have the scenario where the players are probably training for 4 or 5 days in a row after games and its perhaps causing issues.

Tbh we always have injury crises. This year just takes the biscuit.

bucketybuck

homerjay2005 wrote: »

any of you believe that our current injury nightmare could be in part down to us having only one game a week, thus are training differently to the norm, more contact training, more instense training etc etc.

What I have noted is that Moyes was criticised repeatedly for his training methods and many injuries were blamed on that training, whereas LVG has escaped that accusation completely.

The Moldy Gowl

Sure they would have to play the match which would be more intense that training?
Surely they would be fitter and stronger with more 'long' term fitness programe spread over more days rather than stop start?

The Moldy Gowl

bucketybuck wrote: »

What I have noted is that Moyes was criticised repeatedly for his training methods and many injuries were blamed on that training, whereas LVG has escaped that accusation completely.

Obviously because LVG isnt a dinosaur and his dinosaur tactics, he is foreign, English stereotype their own into thinking training is all about running head first into the ground, then use it as a stick to beat them with.

Look at the praise Rooney, Welbeck, sanchez get, because they run around a lot, then they beat Rooney and Welbeck because all they do is run.

PhlegmyMoses

bucketybuck wrote: »

What I have noted is that Moyes was criticised repeatedly for his training methods and many injuries were blamed on that training, whereas LVG has escaped that accusation completely.

Because it is an accusation with 0 facts to back it up.

RasTa

I don't remember anyone blaming Moyes for injury's last year.

Also

Ander Herrera and Jonny Evans set to play for Man Utd reserves against Blackburn tonight..

Your Airbag

RasTa wrote: »

I don't remember anyone blaming Moyes for injury's last year.

Also

Moyes got a lot of stick for over doing it with the cardio and having our players knackered, dead on their feet and prone to injury.

LVG has escaped massive amounts of stick Moyes got but hey, he has us in fourth place now and who knows what else could happen.

The FA cup will be our UCL for the remainder of this season. It would be great to knock out City and beat Chelsea in the final.

keane2097

Is the assumption I'm detecting that the stick Moyes got was correct and people are foolishly failing to lambast van Gaal's training?

I don't know why I continue to be surprised by people.

The Moldy Gowl

keane2097 wrote: »

Is the assumption I'm detecting that the stick Moyes got was correct and people are foolishly failing to lambast van Gaal's training?

I don't know why I continue to be surprised by people.

Half right. We have a load of injuries this year, more than last year. Moyes got stick for injuring players, ala RVP. Fatigued players etc etc

Not so much of that in the media this time.

Maybe its not the style of training. Maybe the media see LVG as foreign and mysterious.

The Moldy Gowl

RasTa wrote: »

I don't remember anyone blaming Moyes for injury's last year.

Also

Them 2 playing for the reserves? Ander being on the bench the last 4 games. His days are certainly numbered.

As for Evans, should have kept pique.

MuPpItJoCkEy

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

Them 2 playing for the reserves? Ander being on the bench the last 4 games. His days are certainly numbered.

As for Evans, should have kept pique.

Anders was/is recovering from broken ribs. Tried to play with a protective vest and was taken off at half time because it wasn't happening.

When was Pique gonna play in first team when there was a fab partnership of Vidic and Rio?

The Moldy Gowl

MuPpItJoCkEy wrote: »

Anders was/is recovering from broken ribs. Tried to play with a protective vest and was taken off at half time because it wasn't happening.

When was Pique gonna play in first team when there was a fab partnership of Vidic and Rio?

Sure Evans is only a championship defender, a clown, want nothing to do with him.


Yeah, well, why was he on the bench so.



(hint: Rewind about 2/3 pages, I forgot to add (!) )

Trigger

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

Them 2 playing for the reserves? Ander being on the bench the last 4 games. His days are certainly numbered.

As for Evans, should have kept pique.

MuPpItJoCkEy wrote: »

Anders was/is recovering from broken ribs. Tried to play with a protective vest and was taken off at half time because it wasn't happening.

When was Pique gonna play in first team when there was a fab partnership of Vidic and Rio?

Forgive Gowl he forgot to use his (!)

bucketybuck

keane2097 wrote: »

Is the assumption I'm detecting that the stick Moyes got was correct and people are foolishly failing to lambast van Gaal's training?

I don't know why I continue to be surprised by people.

No, it isn't. I guess you will just have to continue being surprised.

kryogen

Moyes training and Van Gaals training are very different.

Also, impact injuries are nothing to do with training anyway

Mantis Toboggan

Not much can be done when a defender misses a month because of 'stiff legs'.

Jones, smallingz rafa and Evans have been injury prone for a number of years now, that's why it was foolish not to replace Rio and Vidic with a top class replacement.

I wouldn't be worried about Rojo (freak injury) and Blind (international duty)and Shaw, **** happens.

Hococop

Herrera in the reserves tonight so I'd say he is only fully healthy now

Blatter

Hococop wrote: »

Herrera in the reserves tonight so I'd say he is only fully healthy now

He's been an unused sub for the last month. I'd say he's in the reserves tonight to simply get some game time under his belt.

kryogen

Blatter wrote: »

He's been an unused sub for the last month. I'd say he's in the reserves tonight to simply get some game time under his belt.

He has been on the bench but I doubt he has been fully fit, he was rushed back and played with protective gear then he came off and hasn't been seen since (on the pitch)

Hopefully he comes through the game well and shows no signs of soreness in the ribs.

Blatter

kryogen wrote: »

He has been on the bench but I doubt he has been fully fit, he was rushed back and played with protective gear then he came off and hasn't been seen since (on the pitch)

Hopefully he comes through the game well and shows no signs of soreness in the ribs.

I don't think LvG would have him on the bench for a month if he wasn't fit.

I think he's just competing with Fellaini for a place in the team and LvG hasn't felt he's had the opportunity to substitute/not start Fellaini since he's gotten into the side.

It's actually difficult to see Herrera get back in at the moment. I think he'll be brought on the next time we're very comfortable in a game. A lack of European football was always going to cause squad issues like this though.

Whatsisname

Herrera made it 2-0.

kryogen

Blatter wrote: »

I don't think LvG would have him on the bench for a month if he wasn't fit.

I think he's just competing with Fellaini for a place in the team and LvG hasn't felt he's had the opportunity to substitute/not start Fellaini since he's gotten into the side.

It's actually difficult to see Herrera get back in at the moment. I think he'll be brought on the next time we're very comfortable in a game. A lack of European football was always going to cause squad issues like this though.

Fully fit I said, other then that I have already said pretty much the same as you so no argument with the rest of the post.

edgecutter

Your Airbag wrote: »

Moyes got a lot of stick for over doing it with the cardio and having our players knackered, dead on their feet and prone to injury.

LVG has escaped massive amounts of stick Moyes got but hey, he has us in fourth place now and who knows what else could happen.

The FA cup will be our UCL for the remainder of this season. It would be great to knock out City and beat Chelsea in the final.

Many rumours surfaced from the camp about players being annoyed with training, even, even giggs wasn't happy.

PhlegmyMoses

Blatter wrote: »

I don't think LvG would have him on the bench for a month if he wasn't fit.

I think he's just competing with Fellaini for a place in the team and LvG hasn't felt he's had the opportunity to substitute/not start Fellaini since he's gotten into the side.

It's actually difficult to see Herrera get back in at the moment. I think he'll be brought on the next time we're very comfortable in a game. A lack of European football was always going to cause squad issues like this though.

I'm with you on this. I think LVG sees them as vying for the same position but right now he values Fellaini's physicality in a team lacking bite. Could be a while before Herrera gets a look in.

KH25

PhlegmyMoses wrote: »

I'm with you on this. I think LVG sees them as vying for the same position but right now he values Fellaini's physicality in a team lacking bite. Could be a while before Herrera gets a look in.

I see this as a good thing. When was the last time we actually had midfielders competing for spots??

kryogen

I just don't see what good can come of dropping Fellaini considering his performances, it would destroy him. Its unfortunate for Herrera but thats life, he will get his chance again.

Whatsisname

3-0 Pereira.

Liam O

edgecutter wrote: »

Many rumours surfaced from the camp about players being annoyed with training, even, even giggs wasn't happy.

'even Giggs'? You mean the Giggs who was part of Moyes' coaching staff and yet also part of the movement that got him sacked by many accounts and was clearly had eyes for the top job? Of course Giggs was one of those. Maybe if the players like RVP, Giggs, Rio etc. put the same effort in on matchday as they did undermining their manager they could have beaten the West Broms of the league at home.

Timmyctc

Liam O wrote: »

'even Giggs'? You mean the Giggs who was part of Moyes' coaching staff and yet also part of the movement that got him sacked by many accounts and was clearly had eyes for the top job? Of course Giggs was one of those. Maybe if the players like RVP, Giggs, Rio etc. put the same effort in on matchday as they did undermining their manager they could have beaten the West Broms of the league at home.

This here's your problem see.

Maximus Alexander

Liam O wrote: »

'even Giggs'? You mean the Giggs who was part of Moyes' coaching staff and yet also part of the movement that got him sacked by many accounts and was clearly had eyes for the top job? Of course Giggs was one of those. Maybe if the players like RVP, Giggs, Rio etc. put the same effort in on matchday as they did undermining their manager they could have beaten the West Broms of the league at home.

The problem with that is that it doesn't make much sense. It asks us to believe that Giggs is far enough away with the fairies to think he would get the manager's job at one of the top 3 football clubs in the world with as much experience as the majority of barflies.

Then to further believe that, having succeeded in leading some sort of revolt against the manager, he decided that no, actually, he was happy enough to remain as assistant manager.

Meanwhile, we must suppose, LVG thought to himself "A mutineer who ousted the previous manager? Implicit in leading the team to its worst season in decades? Why that sounds like just the sort of fellow I'd like to have as my right hand man".

Soldie

https://vine.co/v/O1IguHYi6tZ

Sweet as a nut.

Whatsisname

Nani with a goal for Sporting.

madcabbage

It appears Nani is at it again for Lisbon. Will be interesting to see what happens to him end of season.

Whatsisname

https://twitter.com/UtdReport/status/537341238241148928

Glitchy as **** but what can ya do

J. Marston

Call him back in January. Seriously.

Giggsy11

Nani's goal.

http://gfycat.com/EasygoingDemandingArrowworm

The Moldy Gowl

Timmyctc wrote: »

This here's your problem see.

I hate that phrase. It just screams bull****.

By all accounts.... It's re...... Something

beno619

I questioned the Nani loan in September but its clear to see it was absolutely the right decision.

If LVG does fancy him he'll eventually return with game time and confidence that he wouldn't have gotten sitting on the bench making the odd 15 min appearance. If LVG doesn't fancy him we get a decent fee.

Jimmy Iovine

Giggsy11 wrote: »

Nani's goal.

http://gfycat.com/EasygoingDemandingArrowworm

What ****e defending. Not taking from the goal, but that's so embarrassing for professionals. Crap.