Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - See Mod Warning in OP, 09/11

The_Kew_Tour

Was with my 2 Liverpool friends watching it tonight. Same 2 as I watched the O Shea winner at Anfield with.

I went ****ing mental. Love to have been over there. Say it be nuts.

Roll on Northern England and another O Shea winner.

Best thing ever to come out of Waterford

The_Kew_Tour

RobertKK wrote: »

We could have done with John O'Shea at United in the past year...delighted for the former United player.

Would not mind having him still around.

homerjay2005

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Was with my 2 Liverpool friends watching it tonight. Same 2 as I watched the O Shea winner at Anfield with.

I went ****ing mental. Love to have been over there. Say it be nuts.

Roll on Northern England and another O Shea winner.

Best thing ever to come out of Waterford

i dont think ive ever watched a united v liverpool game with my liverpool fan mates, they are just too bitter to enjoy it.

The_Kew_Tour

homerjay2005 wrote: »

i dont think ive ever watched a united v liverpool game with my liverpool fan mates, they are just too bitter to enjoy it.

Trust me when John O Shea got winner there after United were battered for 90 minutes I enjoyed it

Will I Amnt

I used to always watch the United v Liverpool games with Liverpool supporting mates. They were grand, nothing like the bawling your eyes out in text form you get on here. There was one time one of them got up and walked home after I explained to him that Rio was going to come up and bury a header when United got a free kick near the edge of the box, I was joking but it happened :pac:

The_Kew_Tour

Will I Amnt wrote: »

I used to always watch the United v Liverpool games with Liverpool supporting mates. They were grand, nothing like the bawling your eyes out in text form you get on here. There was one time one of them got up and walked home after I explained to him that Rio was going to come up and bury a header when United got a free kick near the edge of the box, I was joking but it happened :pac:

That was same game Liverpool had the "5" banners. Rio was wearing no5 so cue a chant of "How did you know Rio was gonna score" from East Stand

Will I Amnt

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

That was same game Liverpool had the "5" banners. Rio was wearing no5 so cue a chant of "How did you know Rio was gonna score" from East Stand

And ever since that fateful day, he wears that number on his hat, the end. :pac:

Harry Palmr

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Was with my 2 Liverpool friends watching it tonight. Same 2 as I watched the O Shea winner at Anfield with.

I went ****ing mental. Love to have been over there. Say it be nuts.

Roll on Northern England and another O Shea winner.

Best thing ever to come out of Waterford

Ah now, blaas, Jacobs Cream Crackers and Flahavans Progress Oatlets must beat O'Shea!

RobertKK

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Ah now, blaas, Jacobs Cream Crackers and Flahavans Progress Oatlets must beat O'Shea!

The roads back into Kilkenny are the best things to come out of Waterford, the porridge and John O'Shea too...

RobertKK

Ancelotti taking care of his job at Real Madrid, he basically said Di Maria was too greedy and they couldn't change their wage structure for one player plus couldn't afford to keep him.
cough...Ronaldo...cough, persistent cough here, Bale....

Di Maria was said to be on anything from €3 million to €5 million a year. Rodriguez his replacement is reported to be on €7 million a season.

Deluded in Madrid, but at least it benefitted us.

kryogen

I doubt Ancelotti wanted him sold, but it was out of his hands like most things at Madrid in terms of player recruitment. He does just have to tow the party line now though of course.

Donnielighto

RobertKK wrote: »

The roads back into Kilkenny are the best things to come out of Waterford, the porridge and John O'Shea too...

Through Kilkenny maybe, but not to it. Kilkenny is a terribly boring place to live. Livens up for 2 nights a week and thats it. Place is a ghost town during the week. Would hate to be back there.

RobertKK

Donnielighto wrote: »

Through Kilkenny maybe, but not to it. Kilkenny is a terribly boring place to live. Livens up for 2 nights a week and thats it. Place is a ghost town during the week. Would hate to be back there.

It was great the night United beat Bayern Munich in 1999, when United did one better than Ireland last night over a German team.
Gotta to keep United in these posts to stay from being off topic...
It is a great place to live, lots of United fans...:D

RobertKK

kryogen wrote: »

I doubt Ancelotti wanted him sold, but it was out of his hands like most things at Madrid in terms of player recruitment. He does just have to tow the party line now though of course.

Yeah, one has to think of their own job and say the right things in public, even if it makes one look stupid.

Ancelotti in one way did United a favour, the comments he made implies United are better payers than Real Madrid are.
He said Di Maria had to leave to find the money he wanted.

Donnielighto

I'd like Anchellotti after LvG, maybe not first choice but defo top 5 atm.

Will I Amnt

Donnielighto wrote: »

I'd like Anchellotti after LvG, maybe not first choice but defo top 5 atm.

There's not many if any candidates ahead of Ancelotti if I was in charge of finding the next manager. Apart from his credentials he just doesn't have the bullsh*t, excuses and OTT arrogance that seems to go hand in hand with the best managers these days, seems just like a genuine football man. I can see where his comments about Di Maria are coming from, having to tow the party line so to speak.

ElChe32

Another knee injury for Thiago... is it safe to say we dodged a bullet there? (Not that we were ever in for him like).

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11890/9518152/bundesliga-bayern-munich-and-spain-midfielder-thiago-alcantara-facing-another-long-spell-out

Crimson King

Longest IB EVER!

Can't wait to see the team line up next week, wonder will LVG use Carrick now he is fit? also would love the team get their first away victory. The team has won 3 home games in a row and last season had one of the best away records in the league. Sort that out again this year and United will be very strong indeed.

Donnielighto

Will I Amnt wrote: »

There's not many if any candidates ahead of Ancelotti if I was in charge of finding the next manager. Apart from his credentials he just doesn't have the bullsh*t, excuses and OTT arrogance that seems to go hand in hand with the best managers these days, seems just like a genuine football man. I can see where his comments about Di Maria are coming from, having to tow the party line so to speak.

Ya, not sure who'd be ahead, not going to say that he is stnad out. Loew, Klopp, Conte all very good managers it seems, Maybe simeone

alchemist33

homerjay2005 wrote: »

i dont think ive ever watched a united v liverpool game with my liverpool fan mates, they are just too bitter to enjoy it.

I brought a Liverpool-supporting friend to OT for a United 3-0 win, the game where Mascherano was sent off. Watching him force himself to politely applaud as each goal went in still brings me a fuzzy glow.

The_Kew_Tour

Dont think we will see too many changes against West Brom.

Any defenders back?

ElChe32

What's the injury latest on Herrera?

Vic Vinegar

ElChe32 wrote: »

What's the injury latest on Herrera?

He'll be ready for the Chelsea game (26th) according to Physioroom.

brinty

RobertKK wrote: »

The roads back into Kilkenny are the best things to come out of Waterford, the porridge and John O'Shea too...

Spoken like a true KK man who works and earns a crust in Waterford but spends every penny in KK and who goes through the cap flap every day for fear of being seen in the Deise...
Yea right the roads back to KK are the best thing to come out of Waterford....
KK is the biggest black hole in the country
Sure have they a man thats ever won a european cup in soccer between em??
Shay Brennan and John o'shea and Jim beglin all say hello
men fed on a diet of blaas and red led
sure ye can't beat that..
Hon boi....

LostBoy101

Herrera is much needed for the Chelsea game as we need to be comfortable in possession in that game. Herrera and Di Maria with Blind protecting the back 4 would be a ideal midfield set up against the likes of Fabregas and Matic.

thelad95

After last night's result, I'm kind of looking forward to the next international break... Kind of.

The_Kew_Tour

We are gonna beat West Brom and Chelsea. There I said it.

Honestly though if we United win Monday night I reckon we see a very up for it mindset against Chelsea.

A few players back for Chelsea is welcome.

Rayne Wooney

Chelsea are a different beast, Mourinho is always better in his second season

Van Gaal has had 2 and a half months with these players, and a lot of them have only had just over a month with each other

He will set us up to win but if we were to lose after a good performance and more signs of progress it wouldn't be the end of the world

Obviously we should getting 3 points from West Brom before the Chelsea game

Son Of A Vidic

RobertKK wrote: »

We could have done with John O'Shea at United in the past year...delighted for the former United player.

Getting rid of O'Shea was a big mistake and should never have happened.

The_Kew_Tour

In the 06\07 season O Shea had 5 shots on goal and scored 4 goals.

Good going.

kryogen

Corvus Maximus wrote: »

Getting rid of O'Shea was a big mistake and should never have happened.

He wasn't "got rid of" so to speak, he was brought in to the office with Ferguson, he explained to him that the policy with over 30's was in effect and he would only be getting 1 year contracts with possibilities of extending at the end of each season, and obviously he would still be more of a squad player then a nailed on starter in his favored position, or for his years of service to the club they would help him find a club who were willing to offer a longer more secure contract and would not look for anything more then a nominal fee for him.

Sunderland offered him excellent money, first team football in his favored position and 4 years, he was a recently married man with his future to think of and he went for it. Its a short career and with families to think of that kind of security and financial package would be hard to turn down I suppose.

The_Kew_Tour

http://www.joe.ie/football/video-gary-neville-brilliantly-analyses-that-ryan-giggs-goal-against-arsenal-in-1999/471919

Gary Neville on Ryan Giggs goal against Arsenal from 99

Sorry if posted already.

Glock Lesnar

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

http://www.joe.ie/football/video-gary-neville-brilliantly-analyses-that-ryan-giggs-goal-against-arsenal-in-1999/471919

Gary Neville on Ryan Giggs goal against Arsenal from 99

Sorry if posted already.

No need to say sorry man, we're all red devils here after all

How's the break treating everyone?

The_Kew_Tour

Glock Lesnar wrote: »

No need to say sorry man, we're all red devils here after all

How's the break treating everyone?

From fans point of view its been a bad one, but reckon myself it came at good time and I say in his mind Van Gaal thinks same.

Hopefully few injuries healed and looks like no new ones opened up during international week.

MagicMarker

kryogen wrote: »

He wasn't "got rid of" so to speak, he was brought in to the office with Ferguson, he explained to him that the policy with over 30's was in effect and he would only be getting 1 year contracts with possibilities of extending at the end of each season, and obviously he would still be more of a squad player then a nailed on starter in his favored position, or for his years of service to the club they would help him find a club who were willing to offer a longer more secure contract and would not look for anything more then a nominal fee for him.

Sunderland offered him excellent money, first team football in his favored position and 4 years, he was a recently married man with his future to think of and he went for it. Its a short career and with families to think of that kind of security and financial package would be hard to turn down I suppose.

I doubt it had anything to do with money to be honest, if John O'Shea wasn't set for life at that point in his career then he's doing something seriously wrong.

Whatsisname

Don't think anything to do with what Pep apparently said has been mentioned yet

https://twitter.com/UtdReport/status/522506188060372992

The_Kew_Tour

Whatsisname wrote: »

Don't think anything to do with what Pep apparently said has been mentioned yet

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Any quotes on that dude?

Might get read it in morning in work if can.

Whatsisname

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Any quotes on that dude?

Might get read it in morning in work if can.

Just found this, http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/european/pep-guardiola-i-could-see-myself-managing-manchester-united-one-day-9797074.html

Seems to be all coming from his book. Few papers are running with it in the morning it seems.

RobbingBandit

is it just me or does a lot of the press seem to be ripping on RVP at the moment, he is in a rut that is all, he will come good again.

Kirby

MagicMarker wrote: »

I doubt it had anything to do with money to be honest, if John O'Shea wasn't set for life at that point in his career then he's doing something seriously wrong.

You would think that but some people like spending it as much as they like earning it.

Reading Keane's autobiography really highlighted how obsessed he is with money and that he still has to work.....not because he wants to but because he needs to. He doesn't have millions in the bank like you would assume.

O'Shea seems like a more sensible chap but nothing a footballer says or does would surprise me at this stage.

Son Of A Vidic

MagicMarker wrote: »

I doubt it had anything to do with money to be honest, if John O'Shea wasn't set for life at that point in his career then he's doing something seriously wrong.

Considering he had earned millions by the time his United career ended. It would be almost impossible for him not to be set up for life by the time he left.

Billy86

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

In the 06\07 season O Shea had 5 shots on goal and scored 4 goals.

Good going.

I always thought he was a perfect 4 for 4 for year and something like 6 shot for 5 goals in all competitions?

Don't try and tell me he's anything but perfect!

Billy86

Corvus Maximus wrote: »

Considering he had earned millions by the time his United career ended. It would be almost impossible for him not to be set up for life by the time he left.

I'm assuming you of all people have seen this, though...





If anyone's wondering, it's a documentary on how so many athletes run out of money shortly after they retire and never learn properly how to handle their cash because they make so much at such a young age. More to do with American sports but a lot is true for athletes here too - ESPN doc but the whole thing is on YouTube... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSOAwNSv8EM

Son Of A Vidic

Billy86 wrote: »

I'm assuming you of all people have seen this

Saw it awhile back. Maybe it's just me, but John O'Shea has always struck me as a pretty grounded & level headed lad. Whom I suspect is not prone to píssing away his money.

Hococop

Corvus Maximus wrote: »

Saw it awhile back. Maybe it's just me, but John O'Shea has always struck me as a pretty grounded & level headed lad. Whom I suspect is not prone to píssing away his money.

Yeah saw an article on wes browns wife when she wrote on twitter about saving money by getting tokens off a product for some theme park.

What annoyed me was they were trying to make her out to be a cheapskate " he earns 30000 a week yet she is being cheap with their money"

killwill

Billy86 wrote: »

I'm assuming you of all people have seen this, though...





If anyone's wondering, it's a documentary on how so many athletes run out of money shortly after they retire and never learn properly how to handle their cash because they make so much at such a young age. More to do with American sports but a lot is true for athletes here too - ESPN doc but the whole thing is on YouTube... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSOAwNSv8EM

There is a great story on Shaquille O'Neill.
In his first couple of years in the NBA he was spending money like noones business.
Someone had a chat in his ear and he went to college and studied business or something like that.
I will try dig up the story and post it here.

We have to remember that most athletes come from pretty much nothing and if you are earning millions you are inevitably gonna spend millions!

dobman88

Not really sure where to ask this and here seems as good a place as any.

Does anyone know where I'd get a ticket for Roy Keane and Roddy Doyle next Wednesday in the RDS? Ticketmaster says it's sold out. I've only realised I'll be in Dublin at the time and would love to go.

Larry Wildman

Hococop wrote: »

Yeah saw an article on wes browns wife when she wrote on twitter about saving money by getting tokens off a product for some theme park.

What annoyed me was they were trying to make her out to be a cheapskate " he earns 30000 a week yet she is being cheap with their money"

Ridiculous. She's dead right.

Point one is that the guts of 50% of what they make it gone in tax.

Point two is that we're talking about athletes with decent longeivity. Potentially the money has to last them up to 70 years.

Point three is that these guys were probably hugely affected by the financial crisis. No doubt they were massively exposed to the types of assets that collapsed in value.

Point four is definitely true - The more you earn, the more you spend.

fergiesfolly

Kirby wrote: »

You would think that but some people like spending it as much as they like earning it.

Reading Keane's autobiography really highlighted how obsessed he is with money and that he still has to work.....not because he wants to but because he needs to. He doesn't have millions in the bank like you would assume.
.

Having read the book myself I don't know how you came to the conclusion he's obsessed with money.
He came to the realisation that the days of big paydays were over and he still needed to provide for his family.
He left Fergusons office after been told he was being let go without finalising any payoff from the club and while at Sunderland he had to double check his contract to see what the promotion bonus was.
It's well known he's fairly generous to local charities in Cork and Manchester and seems to look after his extended family as well.
Hardly money obsessed

kryogen

MagicMarker wrote: »

I doubt it had anything to do with money to be honest, if John O'Shea wasn't set for life at that point in his career then he's doing something seriously wrong.

I don't want to go back and forth on it, that is how it happened as I was told, from the horses mouth. I don't mind if someone wants to think something else.