Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - See Mod Warning in OP, 09/11

Gits_bone

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

No I'm not. No footballer had ties to anywhere. If he wants to leave, he wants to leave. No hard feelings from me but we will get a load of cash cash dolla for him.
I'm just saying this attitude of oh he is playing well, will be off to Madrid next year just has no legs.
If that was the case, he would have been bought last year or this year. Nacho played more games than Casillilas last year.

No one thinks he's going to leave next season but it has the air of Suarez about it.

The Moldy Gowl

Gits_bone wrote: »

No one thinks he's going to leave next season but it has the air of Suarez about it.

That's just clutching at straws.

It really dosent. At all.

adox

Gits_bone wrote: »

No one thinks he's going to leave next season but it has the air of Suarez about it.

Lol.

Timmyctc

Gits_bone wrote: »

No one thinks he's going to leave next season but it has the air of Suarez about it.

Well Suarez openly admitted his desire to leave Liverpool and oddly enough, seems to bite people in tandem with his attempts to engineer moves to other clubs. So I don't necessarily think it is anything like Suarez's situation tbh

Gits_bone

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

That's just clutching at straws.

It really dosent. At all.

Well it does for me.

Once Casillas drops well off Madrid will make a move imo.

Cantona's Collars

Gits_bone wrote: »

No one thinks he's going to leave next season but it has the air of Suarez about it.

What? He'll sign a long term contract then piss off as soon as he gets the chance?

Corvo

Even as a Man United fan (and huge admirer of David De Gea) it isn't inconceivable that he will move on to Real Madrid. They would like a young established goalkeeper in the mould of Casillas and his emergence in the Spanish squad will only highlight this matter.

His perceived weakness from crosses (which I personally think has been eradicated) would not be as critical to his play within La Liga.

He is Spanish of course, he has broken his ties with Atletico Madrid by making a move to England first, so it would not be a direct move to a rival. The hardcore would be devastated, but in general, football fans understand that this "hometown loyalty" is nothing more than a fairy tale at times.

The main factor is of course his personal life - his girlfriend resides in Barcelona and this may affect his mood on any potential move.

Add in the fact that Madrid will both publicly and privately court him and all the other usual factors that come into play (weather, lifestyle, current squad of Madrid) and you could very easily see him go. His contract negotiations are taking far too long and Van Gaal's reluctance to speak on the matter is certainly worrying, I don't care how he usually treats the press normally.

Further to that, United's lack of expertise with regards transfers at board level (especially Woodward) compared to Madrid's high effectiveness in "getting their man" and you have a transfer happening.

Rayne Wooney

Saw on Twitter that we've only won 7 or more in a row in the league 3 times in the last 8 years, won the title twice and finished second the other time

Cantona's Collars

Gits_bone wrote: »

Well it does for me.

Once Casillas drops well off Madrid will make a move imo.

Madrid signed Navas for that eventuality.

Gits_bone

zerks wrote: »

What? He'll sign a long term contract then piss off as soon as he gets the chance?

A new contract will be signed thus ensuring a big payout is needed by Madrid whenever they come calling in 3 or years or whenever.

Gits_bone

zerks wrote: »

Madrid signed Navas for that eventuality.

He was only flavour of the month. He'll be forgotten about in a few years.

The Moldy Gowl

Gits_bone wrote: »

Well it does for me.

Once Casillas drops well off Madrid will make a move imo.

But he has dropped off?

adox

zerks wrote: »

Madrid signed Navas for that eventuality.

Facts arent welcome around here, ironically enough.

Gits_bone

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

But he has dropped off?

When he drops well off, like I said originally. He's only begun his decline.

The Moldy Gowl

adox wrote: »

Facts arent welcome around here, ironically enough.

But but but he is spainish and from Madrid and speaks spainish?

But if he eventually does go I'll wish him well, he will be ye most expensive goalie in the world so we won't have a problem finding a decent keeper.
Unless fergie comes back

The Moldy Gowl

Gits_bone wrote: »

When he drops well off, like I said originally. He's only begun his decline.

So like when he retires? Then they will replace their second choice keeper?

It's nothing like saurez. Liverpool are a middle to upper table side, just like spurs, in those teams too players will move to bigger clubs. De gea is not in one of those clubs

Gits_bone

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

But but but he is spainish and from Madrid and speaks spainish?

But if he eventually does go I'll wish him well, he will be ye most expensive goalie in the world so we won't have a problem finding a decent keeper.
Unless fergie comes back

Ha.

SUre didn't Fergie sign De Gea?

The Moldy Gowl

Gits_bone wrote: »

Ha.

SUre didn't Fergie sign De Gea?

Nah that was Rooney.


Fergie signed tiabi

bangkok

Gits_bone wrote: »

He was only flavour of the month. He'll be forgotten about in a few years.

he was the best goalkeeper in spain last season

ElChe32

Gits_bone wrote: »

Well it does for me.

Once Casillas drops well off Madrid will make a move imo.

You're clutching at more straws than a wánking scarecrow mate.

Timmyctc

ElChe32 wrote: »

You're clutching at more straws than a wánking scarecrow mate.

post of the week

FutureGuy

ElChe32 wrote: »

You're clutching at more straws than a wánking scarecrow mate.

I'm using this in my next meeting.

Best post.

Gits_bone

ElChe32 wrote: »

You're clutching at more straws than a wánking scarecrow mate.

Even one of your own says it's possible he'll head to Madrid.

Gits_bone

ElChe32 wrote: »

You're clutching at more straws than a wánking scarecrow mate.

And I'm not your mate, buddy.

Gits_bone

bangkok wrote: »

he was the best goalkeeper in spain last season

I think Courtois and Caballero would have something to say about that.

bangkok

Gits_bone wrote: »

I think Courtois and Caballero would have something to say about that.

they can say all they want, Navas was voted best keeper in spain last season and that's why Madrid signed him

RobertKK

I don't believe De Gea is going anywhere, he can see what we all can see with United, there is great ambition, top players are being brought in and I am sure he is looking forward to top defenders being in front of him again.

He knows what the aim for United is, it is winning trophies. I am sure this fits his aim and he is at the most supported club in the world, with the revenues to make his dreams a reality.

We all know he wants to lift the trophy as champions of Europe and he has a lot yet to achieve at United.
I don't see why he would want to leave to return to Spain at this point in his career.
The Spanish teams are going nowhere and will be there in the future if he wants to return then.

The Moldy Gowl

bangkok wrote: »

they can say all they want, Navas was voted best keeper in spain last season and that's why Madrid signed him

Did they not sign him ye previous summer? Or before then? He played the leauge games?

Will I Amnt

Gits_bone wrote: »

No one thinks he's going to leave next season but it has the air of Suarez about it.

Not at all. United can match the contracts that other clubs may offer. Suarez got too big for Liverpool; United have similar quality in other positions.

bangkok

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

Did they not sign him ye previous summer? Or before then? He played the leauge games?

no that was diego lopez, they sold him to Milan. Navas was signed from Levante

GK1001

Mitch Connor wrote: »

haters gonna hate, hate, hate, hate, hate.

I'm disgusted that I got that post

SherlockWatson

Dayum wrote: »

You don't have to be a Liverpool fan to see that de Gea will be playing in La Liga soon.

Any chance of the winning lotto numbers for next week?

Gits_bone

Will I Amnt wrote: »

Not at all. United can match the contracts that other clubs may offer. Suarez got too big for Liverpool; United have similar quality in other positions.

Can they match the weather and his girlfriends residence as well as his families residence? And right now Madrid have more chance of trophies on every front than Utd.

Gits_bone

bangkok wrote: »

they can say all they want, Navas was voted best keeper in spain last season and that's why Madrid signed him

Voted by who?

SherlockWatson

Gits_bone wrote: »

Can they match the weather and his girlfriends residence as well as his families residence? And right now Madrid have more chance of trophies on every front than Utd.

How do you know his personal weather preference or for that matter anything about him?

People love to spout ****e about things, even when its plainly obvious you haven't a ****ing notion of anything at all.

Will I Amnt

Gits_bone wrote: »

Can they match the weather and his girlfriends residence as well as his families residence? And right now Madrid have more chance of trophies on every front than Utd.

I'm just telling you why it's nothing like the Suarez situation.

RobertKK

http://blog.paddypower.com/2014/12/03/graham-hunter-what-manchester-united-fans-should-know-about-david-de-gea-his-character-and-his-future-at-the-club/

Graham Hunter (again) on why staying at United makes sense for De Gea.

Cantona's Collars

Our results against the top 10 sides last season.Already we've seen a vast improvement.

01 MU 0 - 0 Chelsea
02 MU 0 - 1 Liverpool
03 MU 1 - 4 Manchester City
04 MU 1 - 1 Southampton
05 MU 3 - 2 Stoke City
06 MU 1 - 0 Arsenal
07 MU 2 - 2 Tottenham
08 MU 0 - 1 Everton
09 MU 0 - 1 Newcastle United
10 MU 1 - 2 Tottenham
11 MU 1 - 3 Chelsea
12 MU 1 - 2 Stoke City
13 MU 0 - 0 Arsenal
14 MU 0 - 3 Liverpool
15 MU 0 - 3 Manchester City
16 MU 4 - 0 Newcastle
17 MU 0 - 2 Everton
18 MU 1 - 1 Southampton

3 wins out of 18 games is shocking.And people tried to compare LVG's record with Moyes'?

Gits_bone

SherlockWatson wrote: »

How do you know his personal weather preference or for that matter anything about him?

People love to spout ****e about things, even when its plainly obvious you haven't a ****ing notion of anything at all.

And how do you know he's going to stay?

Maximus Alexander

I've no idea what will happen with De Gea, but outwardly he appears pretty happy at the club. There seems to be a real sense of camaraderie and team spirit among some of the squad, which could count for a lot. On the other hand, it's impossible to know how much of that is staged.

SherlockWatson

Gits_bone wrote: »

And how do you know he's going to stay?

I don't, I'm not the one speaking in retarded statements that have no factual basis.


That's you.

PhlegmyMoses

If I'm a multi-millionaire in my 20s and I have a choice of playing for a big club in a big city like Barcelona, Madrid and Paris or the North West of England, I know what my preference would be. To ignore this as a factor is deluding yourself.

I think we'll get one more contract out of DDG anyway, but wouldn't be surprised if he eventually leaves to one of the big 2 in Spain.

RobertKK

Trilla wrote: »

:eek:

Mitch Connor wrote: »

haters gonna hate, hate, hate, hate, hate.

Yeah and next season, those who wish De Gea wasn't with us will have to watch and see that player is gonna play, play, play...

When it comes to his contract he will see that blank space and will write his name.

Gits_bone

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

Only when you have an agenda and not posting crap with no basis.

Why won't ddg go to Germany or Italy? Why Madrid? Why not bayern?

But sure I like to play with my food and the crazies that come along every so often.

SherlockWatson wrote: »

I don't, I'm not the one speaking in retarded statements that have no factual basis.


That's you.

blahblahblah-factual basis.

Does everything need to be written in the history books before you believe it or see it happening?

You were probably all saying last season Moyes lost the dressing room, or Vidic got thrown out of the club from Moyes when it suits ye. WHere's the fact there?

RobertKK

PhlegmyMoses wrote: »

If I'm a multi-millionaire in my 20s and I have a choice of playing for a big club in a big city like Barcelona, Madrid and Paris or the North West of England, I know what my preference would be. To ignore this as a factor is deluding yourself.

I think we'll get one more contract out of DDG anyway, but wouldn't be surprised if he eventually leaves to one of the big 2 in Spain.

I agree, he will return to Spain at some point, but not yet.

Lucas Hood

PhlegmyMoses wrote: »

If I'm a multi-millionaire in my 20s and I have a choice of playing for a big club in a big city like Barcelona, Madrid and Paris or the North West of England, I know what my preference would be. To ignore this as a factor is deluding yourself.

I think we'll get one more contract out of DDG anyway, but wouldn't be surprised if he eventually leaves to one of the big 2 in Spain.

But then if you're a millionaire you can go anywhere you want? so where you live isn't a problem.

ElChe32

Gits_bone wrote: »

blahblahblah-factual basis.

Does everything need to be written in the history books before you believe it or see it happening?

You were probably all saying last season Moyes lost the dressing room, or Vidic got thrown out of the club from Moyes when it suits ye. WHere's the fact there?

Rio wrote about it in his book.

SherlockWatson

Gits_bone wrote: »

blahblahblah-factual basis.

Does everything need to be written in the history books before you believe it or see it happening?

You were probably all saying last season Moyes lost the dressing room, or Vidic got thrown out of the club from Moyes when it suits ye. WHere's the fact there?

The only fact here is that you're talking out of your hole, and not the one in your head.

Mitch Connor

If signing De Gea to a new contract was as simple as offering it to him, he would have signed a new contract. The fact he hasn't means either he, or his agent (Mendes) is playing some games. Maybe just to get the biggest deal he can off United, or maybe to engineer a move to Real Madrid.

Come this summer he will have one year left on his deal. The Ronaldo to United speculation will start again (esp. of Reus goes to Madrid as some are reporting). Falcao's loan deal will be up with either United or Madrid the likely destinations he'll aim for. Mendes the agent at the centre of it all.

Gits_bone

SherlockWatson wrote: »

The only fact here is that you're talking out of your hole, and not the one in your head.

Several of your fans have indicated already it's possible he'll go to Madrid.