Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - See Mod Warning in OP, 09/11

SherlockWatson

Gits_bone wrote: »

The performance I meant.

Cross cross cross cross cross. Luckily you had one of the best headers of a ball in the league.

Yawn.

Gits_bone

Headshot wrote: »

God why do the reply to him. Do you not realise the SF will weed these kind posters out in time

Listen here, any chance ye can reply to my posts and discuss the posts rather than these snide petty personal comments???? Don't like my posts or what I discuss then ignore them. Let other people decide for themselves if they want to discuss it or not, they can make up their own minds. You don't own the board.

kryogen

Headshot wrote: »

God why do the reply to him. Do you not realise the SF will weed these kind posters out in time

Sometimes, sometimes I like the light entertainment.

Will I Amnt

So what are we hoping for tomorrow? Don't want Arsenal catching up or Liverpool gaining confidence, is a draw the best result or do we just hope Liverpool go further back and expect Arsenal and United to get in?

Gits_bone

kryogen wrote: »

Yes, we were all proud of having one of the best headers of a ball in the league start the game, with sharpness and more time on the field with his teammates he will continue to show that we are right to be proud of him for being one of the best headers of a ball in the league.

More then that, David Moyes would be proud of him.

Oh, and it really doesn't matter if you meant the performance or the result, the sad fact that, as you state yourself, poor old David would have been proud of that is still a solid indicator of why he was not a good fit for the club.

Reminded me of the Moyes days alright. Bad defending at the back as well, Evans must have been wearing Santas boots, was stuck under the ball all day. Jones is class though.

Blackett wasn't good at LB though imo. Had a heavy touch. Decent passer albeit. Agbolahors sending off probably harmed your chances, game went dead after that imo.

Hococop

Will I Amnt wrote: »

So what are we hoping for tomorrow? Don't want Arsenal catching up or Liverpool gaining confidence, is a draw the best result or do we just hope Liverpool go further back and expect Arsenal and United to get in?

Draw for me, best result for us imo

Headshot

Will I Amnt wrote: »

So what are we hoping for tomorrow? Don't want Arsenal catching up or Liverpool gaining confidence, is a draw the best result or do we just hope Liverpool go further back and expect Arsenal and United to get in?

Draw would be good but we should get more concerned about Arsenal winning. Pool or Draw for me


I'm also getting worried about Spurs

kryogen

Gits_bone wrote: »

Reminded me of the Moyes days alright. Bad defending at the back as well, Evans must have been wearing Santas boots, was stuck under the ball all day. Jones is class though.

Blackett wasn't good at LB though imo. Had a heavy touch. Decent passer albeit. Agbolahors sending off probably harmed your chances, game went dead after that imo.

Reminded you of the good old days huh? Ah sure we all pine for something good thats gone away now and then. I understand, Jones was shaky in parts but taking into consideration all factors he was alright, Evans was shaky and Blackett was ok, having two wingers as your left and right sided wide defenders is hardly gonna help your defence though, neither is having a midfield of Fletcher Rooney and Mata.....

The sending off helped them in a way alright I agree with that. Shame we couldn't break them down, not there yet by any stretch of the imagination but certainly moving in the right direction with exciting days ahead.

19 points from the last 21, very hard to be unhappy with that. Roll on Christmas!

kryogen

Headshot wrote: »

Draw would be good but we should get more concerned about Arsenal winning. Pool or Draw for me


I'm also getting worried about Spurs

How could you ever worry about Spurs!?

I don't care who wins tomorrow really, I would probably prefer to see Arsenal win since it amuses me more when Liverpool suffer, though we are reaching a point where I am beginning to fear for The Rodgers job, don't want to see him sacked.

A draw is probably the best result with multiple sendings off and long suspensions

Headshot

I know Kry but I just have a felling about Spurs. I think they be within a whisker of CL spot At the end of the season

kryogen

Headshot wrote: »

I know Kry but I just have a felling about Spurs. I think they be within a whisker of CL spot At the end of the season

I would be targeting 3rd this season, maybe try to sneak second, but fourth is not something I think we will be bogged down fighting out. Let Spurs, Arsenal and Everton worry about who is gonna finish 4th 5th and 6th and concentrate on reeling in our actual title rivals and getting closer to them.

thelad95

kryogen wrote: »

I would be targeting 3rd this season, maybe try to sneak second, but fourth is not something I think we will be bogged down fighting out. Let Spurs, Arsenal and Everton worry about who is gonna finish 4th 5th and 6th and concentrate on reeling in our actual title rivals and getting closer to them.

I don't understand all this optimism. We've largely been at best average over the last 7 games and have on many occasions, scraped a win. It was great to see a 3-0 scoreline against Liverpool but if De Gea wasn't between the sticks, Liverpool could've had 5 or 6.

Today, we couldn't put away an average Villa side with ten men and continue to look shaky at the back. We're slow, lethargic and leaky at the back. The only difference between the Moyes era is there is a bit more confidence and belief in the squad.

It's great to be 3rd but reeling in City and Chelsea isn't going to happen this season.

kryogen

It doesn't need to happen this season though.

Scraping wins or blowing teams away gives you the same amount of points and this season is all about getting back on track, getting back into Europe and gaining confidence again, disjointed performances are going to be there all season, the lack of consistency in team selection and system guarantees that.

All that actually matters is, one way or another the team is returning a very good points total lately and that they keep that up and set it up for a proper title challenge again next season.

Your glass must be almost empty for that line of thought to be overly optimistic.

thelad95

kryogen wrote: »

It doesn't need to happen this season though.

Scraping wins or blowing teams away gives you the same amount of points and this season is all about getting back on track, getting back into Europe and gaining confidence again, disjointed performances are going to be there all season, the lack of consistency in team selection and system guarantees that.

All that actually matters is, one way or another the team is returning a very good points total lately and that they keep that up and set it up for a proper title challenge again next season.

Your glass must be almost empty for that line of thought to be overly optimistic.

Do you not remember Leicester, West Brom or the first three games? We're on a lucky run now but this has the potential to collapse very quickly and we could find ourselves 5th or 6th by the end of the season. I'm delighted with our winning streak but when did we ever have to breath a sigh of relief when the full time whistle went at home to Stoke or West Ham before? We're absolutely toxic at the back and laboured in attack. We're still a work in progress.

kryogen

This is a different team to the first three games though so not sure about the relevance

I am not sure what you are under the impression I am claiming?

We are not absolutely toxic at the back, we are exposed too much and the defence doesn't get enough protection a lot yes, if you were to say we are absolutely riddled with injury and inconsistency at the back I would agree alright, very hard to build stability in this situation, impossible in fact and thank **** for De Gea. The one big giant consistent we have back there

Why is it called a lucky run when teams are grinding out wins? I know we have had one or two easy results also, but for the most part its been a grind in terms of results, we certainly wouldn't have been grinding the results out last year since that was something we simply couldnt do. It always amuses me when people speak of luck and ifs and buts

keeponhurling

For those of us who still held out faint hope that Fletcher could regain the form of before, today was not a good day.

LVG will be ruthless, as he needs to be, but today Fletcher was awful and we will not be starting any games again after Herrera, Blind or Fellaini come back

He kept handing the ball to the opposition

thelad95

I'd love to see Fletcher drop a division or two and finish his career on a high with regular first team football.

Will I Amnt

thelad95 wrote: »

I'd love to see Fletcher drop a division or two and finish his career on a high with regular first team football.

There's worse players than this version of Fletcher in the PL. I'm sure there would be one or two that would take him.

RobertKK

https://twitter.com/Cuadrado/status/546347308464340992

Juan Cuadrado was very happy for his fellow Colombian. Rumours are we will make a bid for Juan in January.

Hank Scorpio

thelad95 wrote: »

I'd love to see Fletcher drop a division or two and finish his career on a high with regular first team football.

Might move to the SPL either, hopefully he does find somewhere to play at the end of the season. Had to have been tough to get his fitness back

Lord TSC

Gits_bone wrote: »

David Moyes would have been proud of that.

Friendly advice: when you've received two cards for trolling within a short time, a time which encompasses a probation period in it, entering a United thread (as a Pool fan) and invoking Moyes' spirit can very easily be seen as another attempt to wind United fans up. There's a line and fair enough if you are only attempting to discuss something, however the line is closer than you realise right now, so tread carefully. This is a final warning.

Headshot wrote: »

God why do the reply to him. Do you not realise the SF will weed these kind posters out in time

This really isn't helpful either. While the sentiment is one I echo (if you do believe someone is trolling, report and ignore), it is against the charter for users to accuse other users of trolling, or implying anything similar. "Why do people reply to him" is the exact same as replying to him.

I realise tensions are a bit high after the game yesterday, so I'm giving the warning to both sides and keeping the cards in pocket. But they are peaking their heads out and the fingers are reaching for them.

Lord TSC

RobertKK wrote: »

https://twitter.com/Cuadrado/status/546347308464340992

Juan Cuadrado was very happy for his fellow Colombian. Rumours are we will make a bid for Juan in January.

zerks wrote: »

Bale on?

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/548082/Gareth-Bale-Premiership-Return-Manchester-United

Would like some truth to these rumors.

If Rooney is to spend more time in the CM position pinging balls to the sidelines, I'd really like us to have a winger capable of doing something with them.

I feel that when everyone is fit, it appears that Falcao and RVP will be favoured in the striker roles, Mata in the CAM and Rooney in the midfield. If that's the case, we need better wing support to pump the balls back in that Rooney pumps out.

SherlockWatson

Oh TSC I really hope Rooney being CM isn't the future, I hope you're wrong!

Kirby

Lord TSC wrote: »

I'm giving the warning to both sides and keeping the cards in pocket.

Good call ref. At 9:00 am it's too early in the game to be brandishing cards. Gotta give yourself wiggle room for later in the day when the tackles really start flying in. :P

Cantona's Collars

https://twitter.com/Malachians/status/546446591641395200

Cantona's Collars

The Mirror saying TC23 will sign a permanent deal at Villa for a £7.5 million fee.

The_Kew_Tour

Please be true about TC..

Its also time to say goodbye to Anderson.

Thepoet85

zerks wrote:

The Mirror saying TC23 will sign a permanent deal at Villa for a £7.5 million fee.

Is he not out of contract at the end of this season and available to go on a free?

Lord TSC

Thepoet85 wrote: »

Is he not out of contract at the end of this season and available to go on a free?

As if Woodward cares. He'd sell snow to Eskimos :P

Nolars

I really hope Anderson buggers off, hes like that annoying friend who sticks around forever and no matter what ya do no one else wants him.

KH25

Thepoet85 wrote: »

Is he not out of contract at the end of this season and available to go on a free?

I seem to recall something a while back about villa paying to keep him in January rather than wait. Some kind of gentlemans agreement between the clubs. Somebody else might remember better than me.

paulbok

If these Bale rumours prove to be right, where would he fit in? having him on the left means moving ADM into the middle so I'd see that, especially if we persist with playing someone behind 2 strikers, leaving us very vulnerable in the middle.
I rate Bale very highly, but having ADM means we don't 'really' need him. If you could have one on each side, then that'd be a different matter.
If we do sign him, it'll probably mean the end of Mata and signing Falcao.

Are we playing Stephens day?

Quandary

We're playing Newcastle at 3 on Stephen's Day

Kerrydude1981

Quandary wrote: »

We're playing Newcastle at 3 on Stephen's Day

ElChe32

That's Tiote out of the game for Newcastle..he's a nutter.

marvsins

Tiote just got a yellow and will now miss the Utd game. Every little helps

IncognitoMan

Kerrydude1981 wrote: »

It's always a nightmare trying to find a pub with the games on though, we have a local that will show them through a foreign satellite but just be aware that it won't be on everywhere

marvsins

IncognitoMan wrote: »

It's always a nightmare trying to find a pub with the games on though, we have a local that will show them through a foreign satellite but just be aware that it won't be on everywhere

Its on BT surely any half arsed pub has that subscription.

RobertKK

paulbok wrote: »

If these Bale rumours prove to be right, where would he fit in? having him on the left means moving ADM into the middle so I'd see that, especially if we persist with playing someone behind 2 strikers, leaving us very vulnerable in the middle.
I rate Bale very highly, but having ADM means we don't 'really' need him. If you could have one on each side, then that'd be a different matter.
If we do sign him, it'll probably mean the end of Mata and signing Falcao.

Though we should be in the CL, longer in the league cup, the Fa cup and going for the Premier League title, I think having quality to replace quality or simply to rest a player, there is room for everyone.

We have seen it this year with injuries.

IncognitoMan

marvsins wrote: »

Its on BT surely any half arsed pub has that subscription.

Is it? I thought usually all the 3pm games are on blackout on St Stephens day? If it is then that's grand

Unearthly

IncognitoMan wrote: »

Is it? I thought usually all the 3pm games are on blackout on St Stephens day? If it is then that's grand

Only if it's a Saturday

advertsfox

Fellaini proved his worth so much yesterday without playing, we missed his strength so much.

basillarkin

advertsfox wrote: »

Fellaini proved his worth so much yesterday without playing, we missed his strength so much.

What ye missed yesterday was a type of creative player who could cut open the Villa defence by playing in a killer pass. Rooney and Mata were unable to do this and Fellaini ain't that type of player. UTD were not out muscled although Delph did get on a lot of ball. UTD simply need to create more chances, they weren't afforded the luxury of space yesterday that Liverpool allowed them last week

basillarkin

Unearthly wrote: »

Only if it's a Saturday

Setanta sports 1 normally show a sat 3pm game live, they had UTD villa yesterday

Unearthly

basillarkin wrote: »

Setanta sports 1 normally show a sat 3pm game live, they had UTD villa yesterday

Yeah meant UK British stations

J. Marston

Well, shít. An Arsenal win is the worst possible result.

Fúcking Liverpool, 1-0 up at home and they still can't get a decent result.

Hococop

Good result for us

SherlockWatson

Great entertainment as well.

Headshot

Get in there, great result for us