Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - See Mod Warning in OP, 09/11

keith16

Trilla wrote: »

hows Kagawa getting on?

Kagawa seems to have slotted right back in, but Dortmund seem to be really struggling without Lewandowski. They are conceding a lot of stupid goals too..

Rayne Wooney

Hopefully Falcao enters beast mode now that he's bagged his first, a few against West Brom and Chelsea would be nice

Will I Amnt

keith16 wrote: »

Kagawa seems to have slotted right back in, but Dortmund seem to be really struggling without Lewandowski. They are conceding a lot of stupid goals too..

They're gone to sh*te. Gündogan and Reus back should be a kick-starter for them though.

Backstreet Moyes

Is Costas injury anyway serious would be a big boost next weekend if he was out.

Hococop

Nuts102 wrote: »

Is Costas injury anyway serious would be a big boost next weekend if he was out.

Can't trust mourinho, next Friday or saturday he will say he is injured then have him starting

sky88

Nuts102 wrote: »

Is Costas injury anyway serious would be a big boost next weekend if he was out.

Id be a lot more confident of a win if costa wasn't playing

kryogen

Nuts102 wrote: »

Dortmund beat again if they keep struggling me might have a chance of getting Hummels.

A lot less of a clamour to get Klopp in also

kryogen

Dortmund have been like ourselves for injuries and Lewandowski is obviously a huge hole in the team too, they will get better as the season goes on as long as they can keep players fit but they will not be challenging Bayern for the foreseeable future anyway

Will I Amnt

Chicooooo!!!

PhlegmyMoses

How much would Hummels cost? 40m? Working on the assumption that he'd even join us, I genuinely think he would be a big gamble at that ptice. Very good in possession and works well for Dortmund but he's not the most athletic or imposing presence in the world.

Who else would be better from a big signing perspective? I don't know, I just don't think that he would be the silver bullet to fix that defence.

kryogen

I see Ronaldo only scored 2 tonight? Must be starting to decline

The_Kew_Tour

Macheda!!!!!

RobbingBandit

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Macheda!!!!!

Five and a half hours late with this he scored just after 12:30.;)

The_Kew_Tour

RobbingBandit wrote: »

Five and a half hours late with this he scored just after 12:30.;)

Macheda always left it late

Rayne Wooney

At this rate Ronaldo can break the goal record by January and join us to win the league

RobbingBandit

Good day for ex united men, Obertan got the winner for Newcastle, Welbeck secured a draw for Arsenal, Hernandez and Ronaldo scoring for Madrid, all except TC23, although losing 3-0 for him isn't too bad.

ericzeking

Billy86 wrote: »

That's funny, because you are trying to present as fact your opinion that they all decided to take an indefinite holiday the moment Moyes came in, whereas Ferdinand and (a few of the other senior players if I recall) criticised Moyes' dated training techniques, and Vidic out and out said that he would have stayed if he knew Moyes wasn't going to be there.

What opinion was I stating as fact by the way...
- That Moyes was struggling from the outset, including preseason?
- That Moyes got rid of most of Ferguson's proven backroom staff?
- That he drove older players into the ground with overly strenuous training?
- That players reportedly held the opinion this training approach was draconian and amateurish?
- That Rio/Vidic/Evra made up some of the best backline in the clubs history?
- That Ferdinand had been quality the year before, and started the season fairly strongly for us?
- That ADM and Falcao are superstars?
- That Herrera, Blind and Rojo are not superstars (or at least, not yet)?
- That a number of reports have said Moyes chose Fellaini over Herrera because he did not know enough about the Spaniard?
- That Vidic and Carrick have strong arguments to be better than Rojo and Blind?
- That LVG has had neither Vidic not Carrick at his disposal to this point?
- That Shaw is a long term project who still has a number of developments to make in his game?
- That there were far more negative issues than a single game against Fulham and our final position in the table to Moyes' tenure?
- That Moyes will have to evolve his approach to the game to be successful at a top club, if that opportunity were ever to present itself again (e.g. to learn from his mistakes)?

Where has it ever been said that Moyes chose Fellaini over Herrera? He tried to sign Herrera, he didn't due to whatever snags there were with Bilbao, but he did manage to get Fellaini so you have drawn the conclusion that he chose Fellaini over Herrera...

What's all this about draconian training...is it because Rio wasn't allowed eat his chips?
What would you call draconian training anyway? Different maybe...draconian is a conclusion you have drawn...to suit an opinion you hold.

There's two.

The_Kew_Tour

I hope we have first refusal on Obertan

Good to see few ex players doing well.

FortuneChip

RobbingBandit wrote: »

Good day for ex united men, Obertan got the winner for Newcastle, Welbeck secured a draw for Arsenal, Hernandez and Ronaldo scoring for Madrid, all except TC23, although losing 3-0 for him isn't too bad.

Macheda wept.

Billy86

ericzeking wrote: »

Where has it ever been said that Moyes chose Fellaini over Herrera? He tried to sign Herrera, he didn't due to whatever snags there were with Bilbao, but he did manage to get Fellaini so you have drawn the conclusion that he chose Fellaini over Herrera...

What's all this about draconian training...is it because Rio wasn't allowed eat his chips?
What would you call draconian training anyway? Different maybe...draconian is a conclusion you have drawn...to suit an opinion you hold.

There's two.

1. We were fully in for Herrera on deadline day but claimed to not be willing to pay over 20mn for him, whereas Bilbao insisted on his 30mn buyout. We had been interested in him since long before Moyes came about, but pulled out at the last minute right after the Fellaini signing was made. There was a lot of speculation over if we did reach agreement over the fee or not before pulling out, but in the end we gave up 27mn for Fellaini. We had never been linked with Fellaini in any serious way before Moyes came along. The reasoning we gave for not signing Herrera was that we were not certain if we should be paying such fees for someone we were not certain should be a starter (yet we were fully willing to pay almost that amount for Fellaini... hence we must have thought he would have slid right in). Of course all of this is after the "those agents did not work for/represent us farce which Woodward in my opinion was to blame for. Then after we sacked Moyes, we coughed up the full amount to sign Herrera less than a month into the transfer window this year, shortly after LVG was announced as manager. I doubt LVG had much say in the transfer, just that he had to rubber stamp it.

So let's see...
Pre Moyes: Club is very high on Herrera, tracks him from around the time we played him in the Europa League. No interest in Fellaini.

Moyes era: Man Utd continue interest, but will not pay 30mn for him as they do not know if they consider him a starter (definitely has to be a managers call, there)... sign Fellaini for almost exactly the same fee instead, a player Moyes had chased most of the summer and obviously managed at Everton. Man Utd only pull out of the Herrera deal at the very end of deadline day, right after the Fellaini signing is announced.

Post Moyes: Man Utd sign Herrera for the full amount early in the transfer window without any messing around, put jim straight onto the starting line up. Fellaini, while injured a fair bit, had yet to start a game, benched in favour of Fletcher and Valencia, as well as being an unused sub through the Champions Cup, with some rumours popping up a out him being shipped out late in the window before his injury.

It's safe to say that Moyes was the only person at the club more interested in Fellaini than Herrera last year.

2. As for training, it's funny you brought up the chips thing with Ferdinand and ignored everything else he had to say...

First, about what I said with us seemingly falling into our shell where er we went ahead...
"Before every game he made a point of showing us videos of how dangerous the other team could be. On the morning of a game we'd spend half an hour on the training ground, drilling to stop them," he said.

"There was so much attention to the subject it suddenly became a worry - they must be f****** good at this to have us spend all this time on it."

Secondly, with a lack of general direction...
“Moyes’s innovations mostly led to negativity and confusion. The biggest confusion was over how he wanted us to move the ball forward. Some players felt they kicked the ball long more than at any time in their career.

“Sometimes our main tactic was the long, high, diagonal cross. It was embarrassing. In one home game against Fulham we had 81 crosses! I was thinking, why are we doing this? Andy Carroll doesn’t play for us!

“The whole approach was alien. Other times Moyes wanted lots of passing. He’d say: 'Today I want us to have 600 passes in the game. Last week it was only 400’. Who cares? I’d rather score five goals from 10 passes.”

And also, about being downright amateurish...
‘To practise our set pieces and stuff we went to a public park. It was bizarre! Local people started coming from all over to watch us and take photos and videos.

‘It was amateurish. I mean, why not just send Bayern an email or a DVD?’

Of course, maybe you just want to dismiss his opinion altogether. It's not like he was a key player and leader of the defence in the clubs most successful ever period or anything, so let's move in to Dutch specialist Raymond Verheijen who has worked with Barcelona, Chelsea and Man City.

“Coincidentally when United were in Sydney last July, I was there as well,” Verheijen told Irish radio station NewsTalk. “I went to the training sessions and I could see what they were doing with Robin van Persie. He had to do a lot of running work and sometimes he even had to do it twice a day. You have to keep in mind that he missed the first week of pre-season so his fitness level was lower than the rest of the team. That already means you have to be careful. [Van Persie] had also just travelled for 30 hours and he had a nine-hour time difference. Normally the body takes a week to recover from that. And still, despite these difficulties, they immediately overtrained him because they want him to catch up on the rest of the team. Moyes literally said it in the media. You don’t have to be Einstein to understand that is gambling. If you look at the track record of Moyes at Everton, in the nine pre-seasons that he did, he had seven or eight times an injury crisis in pre-season followed by a slow start to the season. Clearly that pattern repeated itself at United. The second problem of David Moyes is his technical awareness. If I look at the Manchester United games, I don’t think he’s technically the best coach in the world to say it in a polite way. Finally, if you are a coach and haven’t won anything in your life or haven’t even played a Champions League game, and you have to coach a team which is expected to win the Champions League and you are coaching players who have almost won everything, that is a very tricky combination.”

Of course, then we can move onto Rooney who thought the training was beneficial to him, but he also had injury issues and obviously is/was not in the same situation as van Persie or the older players in terms of being overworked and needing periodisation...

"It's a bit different in terms of David Moyes and his staff coming in, the training is different, there's a different style, a different way of thinking about how he wants us to play. Honestly, the training has been so hard. We've done a lot more running. Long running, quicker running, sharper running."

Rene Meulensteen summed it up extremely well - essentially Moyes didn't know what he was getting himself into, or the enormity of the role. It was too 'big time' for him or what he was used to, and he failed to adapt. He took over a team that was run with extreme stability and a fantastic infrastructure (albeit a squad that needed improvements) and threw all that right out the window without a moments thought. Ferguson had been very hands off in training for years be a use there is so much else to do a Man Utd manager, and had left given his coaching staff full trust and authority, which they in turn had with the players, and which showed week in, week out. Replacing that coaching staff was not like any old coaching staff, and uprooting everything overnight for lesser qualified coaches some because Moyes was more familiar with them proved to be one of a number of costly errors. Here's what Meulensteen had to say on it...

"You have to look at Manchester United and the job that David Moyes took on," he said. "United were a very successful team, with many successful years behind them. The strategies in place worked. But David ignored the advice that was given to him by many of the staff in place at the time.

"He opted to put his own plans in place, which he was perfectly entitled to do, but I think it backfired on him. I always strongly believe the performances and the results are a reflection of what is actually happening behind the door and that wasn't good enough, as simple as that.

"Don't forget David was a respected manager in the Premier League who worked for 11 years at Everton in a very good way. But I did warn him: 'Do you realise, after everything at Everton, you're going from a yacht to a cruise liner? That's how big the difference will be.' It's not just necessarily the work on the pitch. It's everything that surrounds Manchester United, the players, the performances, the pressure, the style, the identity. And I think he underestimated that. It's always easy in hindsight but unfortunately it's cost him his position."

So that's two covered... feel free to carry on...

LostBoy101

I think the name "Moyes" should become a banned word at this stage :P

kryogen

Billy, I am not going through that post piece by piece, tbh Im not even going to read it but from the first part. You are wrong straight away to say we pulled out of the Ander deal right after signing Fellaini, not to mention anything else from that, but why would anyone accept anything else you say in that long winded post to be correct when a basic thing like that is wrong, straight off the bat?

Edit: I instantly regret actually responding at all, you two continue the back and forth. Pretend this post doesn't exist

Mikeyt086

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLbhIOGyKB4

I ****ing love these two.

The Moldy Gowl

Ander is such an odd name.

Zico

The transfer fiasco that occured last season is about the only thing I don't hold Moyes responsible for. That was all about Woodward being clueless and trying to learn on the fly through trial and error, with disastrous consequences.

I know most will disagree strongly with me on this but I think Mata was a bad buy. People moan about strengthening a rival by selling Welbeck to Arsenal but don't see that we did the same thing by buying Mata for a ludicrous price. We gave Chelsea the money to buy Fabregas, the player we actually needed. It's annoying just thinking about how stupid that was.

Billy86

kryogen wrote: »

Billy, I am not going through that post piece by piece, tbh Im not even going to read it but from the first part. You are wrong straight away to say we pulled out of the Ander deal right after signing Fellaini, not to mention anything else from that, but why would anyone accept anything else you say in that long winded post to be correct when a basic thing like that is wrong, straight off the bat?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2408011/Transfer-deadline-day-live--summer-2013.html

21:31: Fellaini on the brink of sealing £25m switch to Manchester United

21:49: United unhappy with Everton over Fellaini fee

22:17: Herrera deal on the brink of collapse

22:54: United fail to come to agreement for Herrera deal

23:06: Everton and Manchester United agree £27.5m deal for Marouane Fellaini

The signing was announced 12 minutes after we pulled out of the Herrera deal, meaning when we pulled out of the Herrera deal Fellaini was done, the very furthest behind it could have been would have been putting signatures on paper, though they were almost certainly past even that point by then.

EDIT: Just saw your edit, so let's just leave it be.

The Moldy Gowl

Yeah, daily mail.

Tabloids.

Billy86

Zico wrote: »

The transfer fiasco that occured last season is about the only thing I don't hold Moyes responsible for. That was all about Woodward being clueless and trying to learn on the fly through trial and error, with disastrous consequences.

I know most will disagree strongly with me on this but I think Mata was a bad buy. People moan about strengthening a rival by selling Welbeck to Arsenal but don't see that we did the same thing by buying Mata for a ludicrous price. We gave Chelsea the money to buy Fabregas, the player we actually needed. It's annoying just thinking about how stupid that was.

Agred on the first part that a large part of the blame falls with Woodward also, though I wouldn't say all of it. He was a shambles his first summer here, though he did well this time around in his defence.

Disagree in Mata/Fabregas though. They would play a similar role for us if we swapped one out and the other in, while Fabregas has got off to a great start it does have to be said that he is in a much more stable environment right now which is a massive advantage for him. If we were to have to choose between ADM or Fabregas, I would pick the Argentine every time, and simply for the role required I would prefer Herrera over him. Not to say Fabregas is anything short of a quality player of course, just that we could not have known he was going to come available back in January, if I remember correctly Gerard Martino had planned to make him a much bigger part of the Barca team with Xavi on the way out which was a part of him saying he did not want to move, though that could have well changed with Luis Enrique coming in in May.

thelad95

Billy86 wrote: »

1. We were fully in for Herrera on deadline day but claimed to not be willing to pay over 20mn for him, whereas Bilbao insisted on his 30mn buyout. We had been interested in him since long before Moyes came about, but pulled out at the last minute right after the Fellaini signing was made. There was a lot of speculation over if we did reach agreement over the fee or not before pulling out, but in the end we gave up 27mn for Fellaini. We had never been linked with Fellaini in any serious way before Moyes came along. The reasoning we gave for not signing Herrera was that we were not certain if we should be paying such fees for someone we were not certain should be a starter (yet we were fully willing to pay almost that amount for Fellaini... hence we must have thought he would have slid right in). Of course all of this is after the "those agents did not work for/represent us farce which Woodward in my opinion was to blame for. Then after we sacked Moyes, we coughed up the full amount to sign Herrera less than a month into the transfer window this year, shortly after LVG was announced as manager. I doubt LVG had much say in the transfer, just that he had to rubber stamp it.

So let's see...
Pre Moyes: Club is very high on Herrera, tracks him from around the time we played him in the Europa League. No interest in Fellaini.

Moyes era: Man Utd continue interest, but will not pay 30mn for him as they do not know if they consider him a starter (definitely has to be a managers call, there)... sign Fellaini for almost exactly the same fee instead, a player Moyes had chased most of the summer and obviously managed at Everton. Man Utd only pull out of the Herrera deal at the very end of deadline day, right after the Fellaini signing is announced.

Post Moyes: Man Utd sign Herrera for the full amount early in the transfer window without any messing around, put jim straight onto the starting line up. Fellaini, while injured a fair bit, had yet to start a game, benched in favour of Fletcher and Valencia, as well as being an unused sub through the Champions Cup, with some rumours popping up a out him being shipped out late in the window before his injury.

It's safe to say that Moyes was the only person at the club more interested in Fellaini than Herrera last year.

2. As for training, it's funny you brought up the chips thing with Ferdinand and ignored everything else he had to say...

First, about what I said with us seemingly falling into our shell where er we went ahead...
"Before every game he made a point of showing us videos of how dangerous the other team could be. On the morning of a game we'd spend half an hour on the training ground, drilling to stop them," he said.

"There was so much attention to the subject it suddenly became a worry - they must be f****** good at this to have us spend all this time on it."

Secondly, with a lack of general direction...
“Moyes’s innovations mostly led to negativity and confusion. The biggest confusion was over how he wanted us to move the ball forward. Some players felt they kicked the ball long more than at any time in their career.

“Sometimes our main tactic was the long, high, diagonal cross. It was embarrassing. In one home game against Fulham we had 81 crosses! I was thinking, why are we doing this? Andy Carroll doesn’t play for us!

“The whole approach was alien. Other times Moyes wanted lots of passing. He’d say: 'Today I want us to have 600 passes in the game. Last week it was only 400’. Who cares? I’d rather score five goals from 10 passes.”

And also, about being downright amateurish...
‘To practise our set pieces and stuff we went to a public park. It was bizarre! Local people started coming from all over to watch us and take photos and videos.

‘It was amateurish. I mean, why not just send Bayern an email or a DVD?’

Of course, maybe you just want to dismiss his opinion altogether. It's not like he was a key player and leader of the defence in the clubs most successful ever period or anything, so let's move in to Dutch specialist Raymond Verheijen who has worked with Barcelona, Chelsea and Man City.

“Coincidentally when United were in Sydney last July, I was there as well,” Verheijen told Irish radio station NewsTalk. “I went to the training sessions and I could see what they were doing with Robin van Persie. He had to do a lot of running work and sometimes he even had to do it twice a day. You have to keep in mind that he missed the first week of pre-season so his fitness level was lower than the rest of the team. That already means you have to be careful. [Van Persie] had also just travelled for 30 hours and he had a nine-hour time difference. Normally the body takes a week to recover from that. And still, despite these difficulties, they immediately overtrained him because they want him to catch up on the rest of the team. Moyes literally said it in the media. You don’t have to be Einstein to understand that is gambling. If you look at the track record of Moyes at Everton, in the nine pre-seasons that he did, he had seven or eight times an injury crisis in pre-season followed by a slow start to the season. Clearly that pattern repeated itself at United. The second problem of David Moyes is his technical awareness. If I look at the Manchester United games, I don’t think he’s technically the best coach in the world to say it in a polite way. Finally, if you are a coach and haven’t won anything in your life or haven’t even played a Champions League game, and you have to coach a team which is expected to win the Champions League and you are coaching players who have almost won everything, that is a very tricky combination.”

Of course, then we can move onto Rooney who thought the training was beneficial to him, but he also had injury issues and obviously is/was not in the same situation as van Persie or the older players in terms of being overworked and needing periodisation...

"It's a bit different in terms of David Moyes and his staff coming in, the training is different, there's a different style, a different way of thinking about how he wants us to play. Honestly, the training has been so hard. We've done a lot more running. Long running, quicker running, sharper running."

Rene Meulensteen summed it up extremely well - essentially Moyes didn't know what he was getting himself into, or the enormity of the role. It was too 'big time' for him or what he was used to, and he failed to adapt. He took over a team that was run with extreme stability and a fantastic infrastructure (albeit a squad that needed improvements) and threw all that right out the window without a moments thought. Ferguson had been very hands off in training for years be a use there is so much else to do a Man Utd manager, and had left given his coaching staff full trust and authority, which they in turn had with the players, and which showed week in, week out. Replacing that coaching staff was not like any old coaching staff, and uprooting everything overnight for lesser qualified coaches some because Moyes was more familiar with them proved to be one of a number of costly errors. Here's what Meulensteen had to say on it...

"You have to look at Manchester United and the job that David Moyes took on," he said. "United were a very successful team, with many successful years behind them. The strategies in place worked. But David ignored the advice that was given to him by many of the staff in place at the time.

"He opted to put his own plans in place, which he was perfectly entitled to do, but I think it backfired on him. I always strongly believe the performances and the results are a reflection of what is actually happening behind the door and that wasn't good enough, as simple as that.

"Don't forget David was a respected manager in the Premier League who worked for 11 years at Everton in a very good way. But I did warn him: 'Do you realise, after everything at Everton, you're going from a yacht to a cruise liner? That's how big the difference will be.' It's not just necessarily the work on the pitch. It's everything that surrounds Manchester United, the players, the performances, the pressure, the style, the identity. And I think he underestimated that. It's always easy in hindsight but unfortunately it's cost him his position."

So that's two covered... feel free to carry on...

The Moldy Gowl

thelad95 wrote: »

Just nod and smile

Billy86

thelad95 wrote: »

TLDR; it's not my opinion stated as fact, it's the opinion of many professionals who witnessed Moyes' training techniques at United.

padd b1975

Mikeyt086 wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLbhIOGyKB4

I ****ing love these two.

I miss Tango footballs.

Nemanrio

Mikeyt086 wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLbhIOGyKB4

I ****ing love these two.

Jesus that presenter is an annoying prick.

Billy86

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

Yeah, daily mail.

Tabloids.

Try harder please. It's the live update, as it happened, from deadline day 2013, not a tabloid opinion piece. Fellaini handed in a transfer request before 9pm that night, at which point it was pretty much a given he was joining us - Everton waited unit they got had the McCarthy deal in place before giving it the final greenlight.

You have yet to address my original post, by the way.

The Moldy Gowl

Billy86 wrote: »

Try harder please. It's the live update, as it happened, from deadline day 2013, not a tabloid opinion piece. Fellaini handed in a transfer request before 9pm that night, at which point it was pretty much a given he was joining us - Everton waited unit they got had the McCarthy deal in place before giving it the final greenlight.

You have yet to address my original post, by the way.

Nah, youre grand, that post is a load of ****e and im not gonna get pulled into a page long ****efest.

Yeah as it happened, sure. Because football is a reality show with cameras following around people.

Billy86

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

Nah, youre grand, that post is a load of ****e and im not gonna get pulled into a page long ****efest.

Yeah as it happened, sure. Because football is a reality show with cameras following around people.

So basically your argument is: nu'uh!

Cool, got it.

kryogen

I have just seen this, and I love it.

racso1975

RobbingBandit wrote: »

Good day for ex united men, Obertan got the winner for Newcastle, Welbeck secured a draw for Arsenal, Hernandez and Ronaldo scoring for Madrid, all except TC23, although losing 3-0 for him isn't too bad.

John o'shea says fuk you!!!!!!

Adamocovic

Nemanrio wrote: »

Jesus that presenter is an annoying prick.

"I'm just saying"

Billy86

racso1975 wrote: »

John o'shea says fuk you!!!!!!

Meh... when he looks back on it in a few years, he won't even remember he played a Saturday match this week.

Will I Amnt

O'Shea is on my FF bench, the fecker is going to come on with his big dirty -2 points on Monday night :mad:

RobbingBandit

racso1975 wrote: »

John o'shea says fuk you!!!!!!

Wes Brown was pissed too.:rolleyes:

racso1975

RobbingBandit wrote: »

Wes Brown was pissed too.:rolleyes:

Oh yeah forgot about wesley

Son Of A Vidic

LostBoy101 wrote: »

I think the name "Moyes" should become a banned word at this stage :P

I could roll with that.

kryogen

After the game yesterday a thought struck me, we could really use a guy like Lee Cattermole on the team.

Corvo

That presenter just ruined my Sunday.

"If he gets this - it will be 1-1"

Won't be splitting the atom anytime soon.

irishfeen

This Monday night match is pure s.hite...

mewe

irishfeen wrote: »

This Monday night match is pure s.hite...

It's a pain in the ring. Especially when you've Di Maria as captain

NUTZZ

irishfeen wrote: »

This Monday night match is pure s.hite...

At least we have Monday all to ourselves with no other matches on, so we can watch countless Di Maria replays over and over!

Montroseee

Headshot wrote: »

man im very very happy

Feeling very positive about the season ATM, seen nothing from Pool or Arsenal that suggests they will be competing with us. We are gradually improving and the new lads getting more settled, very confident we will ultimately secure a CL place.