Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - See Mod Warning in OP, 09/11

IamtheWalrus

I can see Vlaar and Vidic in January.

Billy86

IamtheWalrus wrote: »

I can see Vlaar and Vidic in January.

Me too, just got to wait until Villa or Inter are playing is all.

thelad95

If Vidic hasn't been able to do it in Italy, what makes people think he can come back and be our saviour?

Wanting him back just stinks of sentimentality to be honest.

Trond

Transfer window opens in a few days = Bullsh*t stories

Same every year.

Headshot

Val and his miserable crosses again

ElChe32

we should be 3-0 up at this stage -_-

JaMarcusHustle

Headshot wrote: »

Val and his miserable crosses again

Blatter

That was the best half of van Gaal's reign so far. Complete dominance away to a decent team. Should be a few goals up.

McNair shouldn't be out there though, he's looked nervous again.

Mata is finally showing his Chelsea form, he's been very good imo.

adox

Christ how are Utd not ahead at half the me?

J. Marston

The narrative is set for this game.

Last few weeks: Play crap away from home, create little, somehow win.

Today: Play well away from home, create loads, ............

ElChe32

J. Marston wrote: »

The narrative is set for this game.

Last few weeks: Play crap away from home, create little, somehow win.

Today: Play well away from home, create loads, ............

Trond

Headshot

Trond wrote: »

Rooney got sent off for somthing similar

KH25

Moss is a very poor referee it has to be said.

The Moldy Gowl

This will end 0 0 won't it?

newballsplease

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

This will end 0 0 won't it?

Without a doubt. Or 1-0 spurs !

glued

Second time in 3 games that van Gaal has unbalanced the team with his substitutions.

glued

De Gea and Jones have been terrible at distributing the ball from the back.

Lord TSC

What a boring, lethargic game.

Falcao did well, I though, but couldn't finish a ball. RVP was poor. Rooney was poor. Mata had a good first half but a poor second half. Overall though, a lot of the players simply didn't look like they cared

Unearthly

So pissed off after that second half performance

Paul Tergat

Lord TSC wrote: »

What a boring, lethargic game.

Falcao did well, I though, but couldn't finish a ball. RVP was poor. Rooney was poor. Mata had a good first half but a poor second half. Overall though, a lot of the players simply didn't look like they cared

Whaaa? I thought he was absolutely dire. Nothing stuck, he lost the ball everytime it went into him.

Lord TSC

Lord TSC wrote: »

What a boring, lethargic game.

Falcao did well, I though, but couldn't finish a ball. RVP was poor. Rooney was poor. Mata had a good first half but a poor second half. Overall though, a lot of the players simply didn't look like they cared

Fatigued tbh in the second half

ElChe32

From a sublime first half to not a sniff in the 2nd. Ugh. Frustrating we couldn't get a foothold in the 2nd half at all.

Nolars

We are all nice and fancy passing the ball at home and when teams dont press us, carrick and rooney were found out in that second half, carrick cant handle that kind of game no pace and power in his game goes lost but I suppose he has been like that his entire career.

Rayne Wooney

Second half was laughably bad

Gave up on playing any decent football

LuckyGent88

Paul Tergat wrote: »

Whaaa? I thought he was absolutely dire. Nothing stuck, he lost the ball everytime it went into him.

I'd agree anyway. Lost the ball far too easily on numerous occasions. No faulting in his effort though but disappointed he didn't finish that chance he had in first half.

Manutd_4life

Not too upset with the result. 4 points from 2 games within 2 days is not bad at all and were still on an unbeaten run. The talk of us challenging for the title though is ridiculous. I'd be well happy with 3rd

MANUTD99

Our defenders have zero ability of playing the ball from back. Jones and Evans were dreadful in build up play. Hoofball rubbish.

J. Marston

Some seriously abysmal attempts at finishing from Van Persie and Falcao in that game.

Paul Tergat

Nolars wrote: »

We are all nice and fancy passing the ball at home and when teams dont press us, carrick and rooney were found out in that second half, carrick cant handle that kind of game no pace and power in his game goes lost but I suppose he has been like that his entire career.

This is a whole load of shíte in one post. Well played

Nolars

Paul Tergat wrote: »

This is a whole load of shíte in one post. Well played

A constructive reply would be great. The only time I seen carrick in the second half is when he was closed down by Kane and spurs nearly scored. What did carrick do in the second half absolutely nothing.

Paul Tergat

MANUTD99 wrote: »

Our defenders have zero ability of playing the ball from back. Jones and Evans were dreadful in build up play. Hoofball rubbish.

This is a big problem. If we are playing with 3 centre backs we lose someone else further up the pitch which puts further onus on our defenders being able to pass. We dont have that.

Still, the quicker we get rid of 3 at the back the better. I detest it

Paul Tergat

Nolars wrote: »

A constructive reply would be great.

The post just doesnt warrant it. The issue for us in this game was poor finishing. Should have had the game wrapped up early.

irishfeen

Jesus Christ the ref - I nearly threw the TV out the window ... not massively upset with the result - we really should have won it and it could have been 3-0 at half time. Ultimately 2 points dropped but still comfortably in 3rd tonight whatever happens.

Great to see Raf and Shaw coming back too!

Hank Scorpio

Missed Fellaini badly today, nothing stuck up front in the 2nd half. Pure hoofball

Nolars

Paul Tergat wrote: »

The post just doesnt warrant it. The issue for us in this game was poor finishing. Should have had the game wrapped up early.

Oh OK thats very good discussion. Ya we should have doesn't excuse the second half.

adox

That must easily be Matas best performance in a Utd Jersey. I would have had him as motm.

Very disappointing second half. No pattern at all, ball up in the air more than on the deck. They looked tired tbh. First half they were fantastic.

Falcao looked knackered from the Middle of the first half and just couldn't get the ball to stick at all an was second to everything. Rooney played well, as did Young. Rafael was poor when he came on and offered no more than Valencia.

Carrick looked tired and lost the ball a couple of times in the second half in very dangerous areas.

Does feel like there were points left behind there again. Game could and should have been out of sight in the first half. To be fair Spurs came much more into it in the second half, but more hustle and bustle than anything.

A clean sheet is very nice and a draw at white Hart Lane is not to be sniffed at but Utd should have won that game.

MANUTD99

Paul Tergat wrote: »

This is a big problem. If we are playing with 3 centre backs we lose someone else further up the pitch which puts further onus on our defenders being able to pass. We dont have that.

Still, the quicker we get rid of 3 at the back the better. I detest it

I'd swear blind that Jones just puts his head down, hoofs it up the field and hopes for the best.

We've then got attacking midfielders dropping further back and then forwards dropping further back to try and build the play up.

Spurs pressing game in the second half really put us under pressure. Defenders can't handle playing the ball on the ground

adox

Btw special mention for the ref who was awful. The yellow for Falcao was laughable.

Lord TSC

Paul Tergat wrote: »

Whaaa? I thought he was absolutely dire. Nothing stuck, he lost the ball everytime it went into him.

Maybe it's more a case of because he was visible, I felt he did ok, as opposed to RVP who disappeared for 90% of the game. Falcao was fighting for the ball. Showed a bit more than RVP so felt he did ok in relation to the other striker...

How Soon Is Now

That game should of been done and dusted by half time! We where much better team for first 45 but seemed to die off in 2nd which could well of gave spurs the game!

Do have to feel we have dropped 4 points in games we should of won which would of made a huge difference!

K4t

Paul Tergat wrote: »

This is a whole load of shíte in one post. Well played

He's right in that when teams press and get in the faces of the players, things quickly revert back to the same as last season.


Spurs should have snatched that and Falcao should have been given a rest.

Paul Tergat

MANUTD99 wrote: »

I'd swear blind that Jones just puts his head down, hoofs it up the field and hopes for the best.

We've then got attacking midfielders dropping further back and then forwards dropping further back to try and build the play up.

Spurs pressing game in the second half really put us under pressure. Defenders can't handle playing the ball on the ground

Agree with it all. Our forwards probably won 2 or 3 headers at most from those hoofs all game. Its not like we even have the pace in behind to get onto long balls - this is something we have not had after Welbeck and Hernandez have gone and Rooney has dropped deeper. Its all into feet now

RobbingBandit

We need Angel Di Maria back pronto, Falcao should have been subbed he was like a ghost in the second half, stupid tv rights bs having to play so early, if there had been a training session they would have seen how burned out some of the players were, just not good enough.

Paul Tergat

Lord TSC wrote: »

Maybe it's more a case of because he was visible, I felt he did ok, as opposed to RVP who disappeared for 90% of the game. Falcao was fighting for the ball. Showed a bit more than RVP so felt he did ok in relation to the other striker...

I do see what you mean there but Falcao trying to get into the game just further highlighted how off he was. Not sure Falcao and RVP are not sure how to play with each other yet.

MagicIRL

I feel if Rafael had of started over Valencia we would've had a more balanced attack.

Everything went wrong in front of goal today, but in saying that we did technically score and hit the woodwork.

Mata was superb.

J. Marston

11 points from 27 is our away form this season. Arsenal, Liverpool, Spurs, Southampton, West Ham all better than us.

Thankfully our home form is very good but if the away performances continue like that, I can see top 4 being a struggle.

Giggsy11

Should have won the game easily in the first half. RVP and Falcao missed 3 easy chances in the first half, Rooney's header, Young's brilliant shot, RVP and Mata's sitter in the second half. Those are all very good chances not just half chances.

For all the domination in the second half only chance Spurs created was one that fell to Mason.

Also in one of the interview Carrick mentioned how good Valencia is for team as he carries the ball 40-50 yards and relives pressure on others, today at least in the second half I thought team missed that.

MANUTD99

RobbingBandit wrote: »

We need Angel Di Maria back pronto, Falcao should have been subbed he was like a ghost in the second half, stupid tv rights bs having to play so early, if there had been a training session they would have seen how burned out some of the players were, just not good enough.

Yeah he wasn't great but he ran his stones off. Running into channels, dropping back into midfield. He was even defending.

Having a back four who keep launching the ball into space for Falcao for him to chase doesn't help.

His work rate is very good, he really wants to impress which is good

irishfeen

J. Marston wrote: »

11 points from 27 is our away form this season. Arsenal, Liverpool, Spurs, Southampton, West Ham all better than us.

Thankfully our home form is very good but if the away performances continue like that, I can see top 4 being a struggle.

Ya but Spurs are ever improving this season and being honest on another day we could have won that 2 or 3-0... main thing was that we didn't lose because Spurs would have went 4th with a win.