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Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - See Mod Warning in OP, 09/11

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,424 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    I thought we were average enough.

    Our tactics were poor and we got out of jail, although to be fair we did create chances in first half to take the lead.

    We created very little though in 2nd half. We were not great. DDG was United MOM for me with couple of great saves.

    Tbf while Chelsea were missing Costa and Remy we were missing Rooney, Herrera Jones,Evans and Falcao.

    Its not as if we had a great selection to choose from.

    In saying few negatives its nice to see us get a break at end.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,137 ✭✭✭✭TheDoc


    Some compliments for Jan...I thought he was poor again. He has such a lack of pace and acceleration and doesn't look comfortable against defenders.

    Every time the ball came to him he slowed the play down. Sure he made a good run or two and had one or two good passes. But he had ALOT of possession and didn't really do anything for me.

    Surprised that a 19yr old with his frame isn't lightning fast.

    I'd be concerned playing him on the wings. I wonder if this 4-4-2 is temporary while we wait for Rooney and Falcao.

    Can't get over how well our midfield did today. There was years I'd be freaked going up against a Chelsea midfield but Blind and Fellaini did so well today


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,653 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    Im very very happy with the performance, we're getting better and better. Iv always been a big critic of Fell but he was superb today. If he keeps this up, I might just change my mind about him.

    I cant really pick out any player that let us down big today, ya know. Yes Di Maria was poor by his high standards but still put in a good shift.

    Shaw had a great game too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,825 ✭✭✭Mikeyt086


    What a result.

    We looked like Manchester United again.

    It's no coincidence that the first time Louis Van Gaal gets to implement his favourite 4-3-3 with traditional wingers, we look like a proper team.

    In the World Cup, Holland set up with a sitting midfielder, a box to box mid, and an attacking mid, today Blind, Fellaini, and Mata occupied those roles. Blind was great again, Mata was better but could do more, but Fellaini was our best player in my opinion. That is how we need to utilise him. With Herrera and Rooney to come back in to looks good for us.

    Januzaj and RVP looked much better because they are finally playing in roles that suit them. All of RVP's success in his career has come at the point of a 4-3-3. Januzaj looks a natural winger and gave Chelsea some headaches, if Di Maria can improve on today we look good there too, with Falcao to come back in and rotate with RVP.

    I hope that is how we play going forward. We play like that next week and we can beat City, and if we play like that every week we will finish comfortably in the top 4.

    That Chelsea side are the best in the league, Courtois is an absolute beast. We were a bit lucky at times but we gave as good as we got. Have to kick on now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,889 ✭✭✭✭The Moldy Gowl


    Lvg was awfully bitter about curtois getting motm.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,290 ✭✭✭fatherted1969


    Delighted with performance firstly and result comes a close second. So many positives to take from it. Thrilled for Fellaini who put in a great shift, Shaw i thought was excellent also.

    Like looking at utd from years ago


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,362 ✭✭✭K4t


    Lvg was awfully bitter about curtois getting motm.
    It is quite farcical tbh but wouldn't expect anything less than Neville with his ott attempts to remain impartial. DDG was just as good if not better than Courtois today.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,661 ✭✭✭Fuhrer


    K4t wrote: »
    It is quite farcical tbh but wouldn't expect anything less than Neville with his ott attempts to remain impartial. DDG was just as good if not better than Courtois today.


    United had by far the better chances.


    I think they both had the same amount of saves to make but DDG didnt have to work too hard for them as 2 were long range hit and hopes and the other 2 were hit straight at him.

    That being said, Courtois did just spoon the ball straight into the worst possible place


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,495 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    Mikeyt086 wrote: »
    It's no coincidence that the first time Louis Van Gaal gets to implement his favourite 4-3-3 with traditional wingers, we look like a proper team..

    Whats been stopping him, could have picked that team at any time? :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,116 ✭✭✭Professional Griefer


    Man Utd Facebook @MUFC_Facebook
    Analysis = Di Maria was so good that he was bad, van Persie so bad that he was good

    :pac:

    Happy days, now on to City. Reckon we'll get hammered, again..

    Robins goal seems to have upset a lot of people, even better.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,776 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    Thought Mata was very good while he was on. Fellaini was good as well. Shaw had a good second half especially.

    Januzaj was better than the last night but still takes the wrong option nearly every time. Has a habit of delaying simple passes a crucial half second while seemingly trying to decide if he can go himself a lot that if he could cut out would make a big difference but has a level of greediness that hinders him a lot.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,304 ✭✭✭madcabbage


    Million dollar question, who should start next week against City, assuming we get back Rooney and Falcao.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,205 ✭✭✭Lucas Hood


    madcabbage wrote: »
    Million dollar question, who should start next week against City, assuming we get back Rooney and Falcao.

    Rooney and Falcao. Rooney at 10 and Falcao up top.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,661 ✭✭✭Fuhrer


    madcabbage wrote: »
    Million dollar question, who should start next week against City, assuming we get back Rooney and Falcao.

    Rooney instead of Mata probably.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,858 ✭✭✭Manutd_4life


    madcabbage wrote: »
    Million dollar question, who should start next week against City, assuming we get back Rooney and Falcao.

    Rooney since he's captain. Problem is there is no way to fit rooney, falcao and RVP in the same team and i'm sure they'd all be upset to not feature in the starting 11. Tough times


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,241 ✭✭✭Vic Vinegar


    madcabbage wrote: »
    Million dollar question, who should start next week against City, assuming we get back Rooney and Falcao.

    Falcao might not be fit so i'd go with RVP up top and Rooney to replace Mata, as his extra physicality will be of more benefit against City. I also would say Young or Valencia will replace Januzaj.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    Surprised to see people faffing over the result. Didn't you draw with Chelsea last season too? :confused:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    Rooney since he's captain. Problem is there is no way to fit rooney, falcao and RVP in the same team and i'm sure they'd all be upset to not feature in the starting 11. Tough times

    Huh? How is there no way to fit them all in?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,858 ✭✭✭Manutd_4life


    Huh? How is there no way to fit them all in?

    well i guess u could put rooney in the hole but I personally don't want to see that happen. It would be an awful waste and shame to see mata on the bench. In the next 2 windows i think i major striker will leave and i'm hoping it will be rvp so another striker like wilson who i thought looked pretty good today will step up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,824 ✭✭✭ShooterSF


    Mr Alan wrote: »
    Surprised to see people faffing over the result. Didn't you draw with Chelsea last season too? :confused:

    Funnily enough probably one of our best performances last season too. Should have beat them off the pitch. But you don't judge results based on previous seasons. It was vital today that they didn't extend their lead over us.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,304 ✭✭✭madcabbage


    Mr Alan wrote: »
    Surprised to see people faffing over the result. Didn't you draw with Chelsea last season too? :confused:

    Who's faffing? Think most people are happy to take the point.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,116 ✭✭✭Professional Griefer


    Yeah, especially when you're losing. Tbh I didn't think we'd take anything today


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,416 ✭✭✭Zico


    Ugh, man. Have a **** and come back to us.
    We just got an immense point, the biggest result, alongside the best performance in the last 18 months.

    Go watch some torture porn for yourself.

    Gowl = Village in Leitrim

    asaur= Dweller

    Rex - King

    ?

    Mater tua fellatio;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,889 ✭✭✭✭The Moldy Gowl


    Zico wrote: »
    Gowl = Village in Leitrim

    asaur= Dweller

    Rex - King

    ?

    Mater tua fellatio;)

    No I'm just a raging gowl of a person. I am the king of gowls, and the prince of yurts.

    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Gowl


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    madcabbage wrote: »
    Who's faffing? Think most people are happy to take the point.

    Have a read back over this thread.


  • Posts: 0 Davis Faint Hive


    Mr Alan wrote: »
    Surprised to see people faffing over the result. Didn't you draw with Chelsea last season too? :confused:

    Nobody is faffing over the result, what's annoying me is the continuous posts from rival fans discrediting our performance and just blaming the ref. The ref actually let the game flow and had a good game overall getting most of the decisions right. One penalty decision is causing all this ****e, pure ****e talk about di maria diving. I have seen the replays it was a clear foul by ivanovich


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,416 ✭✭✭Zico


    No I'm just a raging gowl of a person. I am the king of gowls, and the prince of yurts.

    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Gowl

    Ok, I'm sorry for misrepresenting you.:)


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,304 ✭✭✭madcabbage


    Mr Alan wrote: »
    Have a read back over this thread.

    You will always get a few who'll try and discredit the performance. Most people are happy from what I can see.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,889 ✭✭✭✭The Moldy Gowl


    Zico wrote: »
    Ok, I'm sorry for misrepresenting you.:)

    Shift? Might relieve some pressure?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,424 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    One positive and I'm loving it is LVG belief in players like Fellaini,Jan and the younger guys.

    Fair play to him for that. Today he could have totally avoided bringing on Wilson but it showed faith in the lad to bring him on in biggest game of season.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,699 ✭✭✭advertsfox


    Even Chelsea fans are OK with that result, mainly because they know they were blessed to only have the 1 red card with Matic, Drogba and Hazard all taking out Mata on the break. As soon as their one defender who played well was correctly sent off - we took advantage.

    Ref was very soft with bookings in the first half, would have been nice to have Rooney today but overall I'm very happy - we've improved drastically since day 1 this season.

    Also, Rafael was once again stonkingly good today and Fellainis strength was much needed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,495 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    While I think many people are overstating the performances, still it was good to see us finally compete and have some composure in midfield. In the first half in particular there was a period where we were recycling the ball across the field and holding possession very well, something we just didn't see in the Carrick and Cleverly days. Blind and Felliani deserve a lot of credit for that at least.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    Mr Alan wrote: »
    Surprised to see people faffing over the result. Didn't you draw with Chelsea last season too? :confused:

    Go way out of that! You are neither surprised to see people happy at a good performance against a better Chelsea team then last season or here for anything that will resemble reasoned conversation

    Did you enjoy the game?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,709 ✭✭✭✭Cantona's Collars


    rvp.png


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    kryogen wrote: »
    Go way out of that! You are neither surprised to see people happy at a good performance against a better Chelsea team then last season or here for anything that will resemble reasoned conversation

    Did you enjoy the game?

    I didn't see it.

    Was at the Giants Causeway while it was on. Came in here after not knowing result and saw declarations of "what a result" and some celebratory gifs, hence why I surprised when I saw it was actually a draw not a win.

    Can understand relief & being happy, but wouldn't go over the top about it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,222 ✭✭✭✭Will I Amnt


    Snatching a draw in the 94th minute and deserving it is always going to produce more of a reaction than a 0-0 snorefest.
    I'll faff if i want to faff.
    That goal put a massive smile on my face, you're f*cked if you think a miserable, bitter post is going to make me take a step back and take stock of my mood.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,222 ✭✭✭✭Will I Amnt


    zerks wrote: »
    rvp.png

    Disgrace, someone tell him it was only a draw.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,366 ✭✭✭Robson99


    keane2097 wrote: »
    Thought Mata was very good while he was on

    Thought Mata was useless myself. He has had 3 games to Show he deserves a place in the team and has been piss poor. He just doesn't have enough pace and is very one footed. Technically he is better than Rooney but he brings a lot less to the team. Herrera would e a better no 10.


  • Posts: 0 Davis Faint Hive


    zerks wrote: »
    rvp.png

    Loved rvps reaction...get in u legend


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,709 ✭✭✭✭Cantona's Collars


    I actually made my young lad cry I roared so loudly when we scored.:D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    Mr Alan wrote: »
    I didn't see it.

    Was at the Giants Causeway while it was on. Came in here after not knowing result and saw declarations of "what a result" and some celebratory gifs, hence why I surprised when I saw it was actually a draw not a win.

    Can understand relief & being happy, but wouldn't go over the top about it.

    So, Liverpool are losing to Chelsea at Anfield this season, 1-0, going into injury time. Liverpool equalise and save a point when it looked like a defeat was guaranteed, Jose had shut the shop

    You wouldn't expect many Liverpool fans to be a little excited about it? :confused:

    It was great to see the team keep fighting, that has been lacking for so long. They deserved a draw too, we should have been well ahead in the first half and Chelsea were the better in the second. From predictions of many that we would be torn apart, we came away with a good point. People are happy, this may provide a spring board, hopefully.

    I love the Causeway, was the weather good? Beautiful place


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,136 ✭✭✭✭Rayne Wooney


    zerks wrote: »
    rvp.png


    Ffs look at him celebrating like we've just got a draw at the mighty Hull

    Off with his head imo, the faffer


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,653 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    What has LVG said about the game?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,776 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    Robson99 wrote: »
    Thought Mata was useless myself. He has had 3 games to Show he deserves a place in the team and has been piss poor. He just doesn't have enough pace and is very one footed. Technically he is better than Rooney but he brings a lot less to the team. Herrera would e a better no 10.

    Another case where I have no idea what people think his role is meant to be.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,690 ✭✭✭ElChe32


    #WeFaffAgain #MakeUsFaff


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,709 ✭✭✭✭Cantona's Collars


    Headshot wrote: »
    What has LVG said about the game?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,709 ✭✭✭✭Cantona's Collars


    ElChe32 wrote: »
    #WeFaffAgain #MakeUsFaff

    The Faffening.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,893 ✭✭✭allthedoyles


    Karma in action today ..........what goes round , - comes around .

    Did Mourinho shake hands with his opposite before final whistle today ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    kryogen wrote: »
    So, Liverpool are losing to Chelsea at Anfield this season, 1-0, going into injury time. Liverpool equalise and save a point when it looked like a defeat was guaranteed, Jose had shut the shop

    You wouldn't expect many Liverpool fans to be a little excited about it? :confused:

    It was great to see the team keep fighting, that has been lacking for so long. They deserved a draw too, we should have been well ahead in the first half and Chelsea were the better in the second. From predictions of many that we would be torn apart, we came away with a good point. People are happy, this may provide a spring board, hopefully.

    I'd expect Liverpool fans to be very happy, but not declarations of "what a result" etc....there's a difference between being delighted about snatching a point & declaring a draw against Chelsea a brilliant result. You're still Utd for crying out loud! :p
    Kryogen wrote:
    I love the Causeway, was the weather good? Beautiful place

    It was dry but blowing a gale. Had never been before but it was pretty stunning & I think the murky weather & the insane wind kinda added to it. Felt like the edge of the world.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,889 ✭✭✭✭The Moldy Gowl


    zerks wrote: »
    The Faffening.

    Fafflaini


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