Newcastle United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2022/2023

D_turbo

Linked to Perez of arsenal.

I think he would be brilliant. Got the Rip at arsenal but seems he has a great talent

Seannew1

One injury to Gayle and we are absolutely f*cked

tastyt

Whats going on lads eh?

I dont understand it to be honest, will benitez be happy to stick around or does he have a few out of the blue signings in motion that we know nothing about??

Im not talking about potential from france or Spain either, we need premier league experience

GT_TDI_150

tastyt wrote: »

Whats going on lads eh?

I dont understand it to be honest, will benitez be happy to stick around or does he have a few out of the blue signings in motion that we know nothing about??

Im not talking about potential from france or Spain either, we need premier league experience

ive faith in him...

the dortmund lad was deffo one that had no media attention on it

D_turbo

Vazquez, Perez, correa all linked....in talks with...joselu...**** sake

M5

Signing backup players from here on in apparently! Logical conclusion from that is our squad is deemed good enough despite being down 5+ players

TherapyBoy

Just reading Merson's predictions for the season on the Sky sports app, he has us finishing 17th!

M5

TherapyBoy wrote: »

Just reading Merson's predictions for the season on the Sky sports app, he has us finishing 17th!

As much as he likes to have a pop, if put this in reasonable territory given we have decreased our squad size after decreasing it last year and the year before.

Survival the goal this year, which I see as reasonable. Unfortunately it's the limit of ambition fill stop

chewed

Paddy power offering 3/1 for Newcastle to finish in top 10

fitzparker

Jesus lads what is going on, the players we have brought in aren't really a step up to what we had, Manquillo for Anita Murphy for Goufrann.

im looking at another dull season with Rafa gone by Jan. of course prices are gone scandalous at 10m players are now 25m but surely there is a few marquee signings out there. wasn't rafa promised every penny from championship? yet he has barley spent. we still need a CM, LB.

Hoping De Jong/yedlin gives us a good season, Gayle/Elliot/hayden stay fit, Shelvey stays on the pitch.

if Sigurdsson goes to Everton surly that opens the door for a barkley bid, Delph at man City should be available as too wilfried bony....even bring back remy!

M5

fitzparker wrote: »

Jesus lads what is going on, the players we have brought in aren't really a step up to what we had, Manquillo for Anita Murphy for Goufrann.

im looking at another dull season with Rafa gone by Jan. of course prices are gone scandalous at 10m players are now 25m but surely there is a few marquee signings out there. wasn't rafa promised every penny from championship? yet he has barley spent. we still need a CM, LB.

Hoping De Jong/yedlin gives us a good season, Gayle/Elliot/hayden stay fit, Shelvey stays on the pitch.

if Sigurdsson goes to Everton surly that opens the door for a barkley bid, Delph at man City should be available as too wilfried bony....even bring back remy!

Sole ambition of the club is to survive in the premier leakage for the least amount of money possible to maximize visibility for sports direct. As long as the cost of running the club is less than paying for that advertising this is what we have lads. Rafa gone by January unless there is some serious movement

Bleating Lamb

Going on preseason form is Elliot likely to be No 1 goalie for start of season?

fitzparker

Bleating Lamb wrote: »

Going on preseason form is Elliot likely to be No 1 goalie for start of season?

is this for your fantasy football haha

yeah he should be! he has started all but 1. Krul hasn't got a look in and darlow started the other.

Bleating Lamb

fitzparker wrote: »

is this for your fantasy football haha

yeah he should be! he has started all but 1. Krul hasn't got a look in and darlow started the other.

Yeah😀...thanks....heard they have new defender in...what's likely starting defence.

tastyt

Not a fan of pardew, obviously, but he made a good point about Newcastle on the debate the other night.

He said Newcastle fans and st james park needs an entertainer, and its something we usually have. We might need one even more this season for a bit of light relief because its going to be a slog.

Not really rafas style to have a free spirit in the team although he did have gerard, garcia and Torres at Liverpool.

Id love a character, a bit of magician thats lost his way like tino or ben arfa.

Just off the top of my head, nasri, depay, bony, nani, wilshere, you get the idea.

Ah well, probably well down the list of what we need

GT_TDI_150

Bleating Lamb wrote: »

Yeah😀...thanks....heard they have new defender in...what's likely starting defence.

Back three going by the friendlies

Gayle - Mitrovic - Colback

Bleating Lamb

Wondering from FF perspective...is Lejeune looking likely to get starting spot in defence for start of season?
Thanks .

gormdubhgorm

Bleating Lamb wrote: »

Wondering from FF perspective...is Lejeune looking likely to get starting spot in defence for start of season?
Thanks .

I was just about to ask this myself!

Lascelles to be dropped and captain in name only?

That_Guy

Bleating Lamb wrote: »

Wondering from FF perspective...is Lejeune looking likely to get starting spot in defence for start of season?
Thanks .

It's a dead cert. Rafa will likely go with a centre back pairing of himself and Lascelles.

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Just on the season ahead, I think our new signings will be good. Players who are eager to play and prove themselves for the jersey and under Rafa, they'll get some top class coaching to further their potential.

Been a while since we've had a bit of guts and desire about us. Last season is a good indicator that the squad we have are willing to fight for the cause.

I don't think we'll pulling up trees but I think we can be an effective well disciplined unit.

All of that comes with a caveat in that all of this fight and hard work rely on Rafa staying in charge and given that Ashley's transfer policy is coming back to haunt yet another manager.

I'm looking forward to seeing what we can do but ultimately, as a Newcastle fan, you can never fully look forward to a season when Ashley is always lurking in the background waiting to press the self destruct button.

I think we'll be a tough team to beat but we need the front 6 to fire on all cylinders.

Mitro talks a good game and has been doing so all pre-season but it's time that he shows that he is capable of leading the line considering that we're a Gayle injury away from imploding up top.

Merino is a very unknown signing and I think it'll be unfair of fans to be expecting him to be the catalyst for our creativity. I'd actually be pinning my hopes on de Jong and hopefully he can stay fit because there's a lot of talent there.

Not sure what to make of the season ahead considering Rafa's public comments about being unhappy.

If we can get Kenedy and Lucas Perez in, I think we should be relatively ok for the short term anyway.

fitzparker

De jong definitely has what it takes, IF he can stay fit, then it eases the pressure of Johnjo and ritchie with creativity.

personally I dont rate Lascelles, and with him only playing once in pre season i think Clarke will go in (whom was our best defender last year) if all goes well with those 2 I think Lascelles will struggle to get back in.

Depending on Gayle injury it means the likes of Atsu,Arrons, Murphy will be used for their pace either side of Mitro.

We are still a couple of signings short, if we can get in as above Kenedy and Perez and have Haidara fit as cover to dummett, that would be ok until January

That_Guy

On Lascelles, I think he has bags of potential. Positionally, he was caught out big time last year on more than one occasion.

Rafa has named him captain again for this season so I doubt he'll be dropped anytime soon. I'd personally liked to have had Mbemba and Lejeune get the go ahead but I don't Rafa rates the former for whatever reason.

I'd expect Clark to be challenging for a place at LB/RB tbh. He was mental when he was at Villa but he's got a more defence minded coach in Benitez and importantly, he does have experience at the highest level in England and that's a big plus.

Time will tell I guess but it's refreshing to have actual defensive cover. Ok, it may not be the most amazingly talented cover but it's better than having to make do with midfielders making up the numbers.

That_Guy

From www.nufc.com

Two days before the season opener against Tottenham Hotspur Mike Ashley and Rafa Benitez have been in front of the cameras giving their version of where we are:

Ashley:

"I'm nowhere near wealthy enough to compete with clubs like Man City.

"I don't have the ability to write a cheque for £200m.

"In theory I'm a multi-billionaire, but in reality my wealth is like wallpaper – it's all in Sports Direct shares."

Benitez:

"I said how I have felt during the summer, but at the same time, my commitment is 100% with this club.

"My ambition is to do well every single game. I'm not saying I'm pleased with everything, because that's not true. But I am not saying I will not do my best in every game.

"I think we can bring some players in and we may have to move some out."

FFS Ashley, nobody is asking us to compete like Manchester City or spend £200m. Fans just want to ensure that we have a healthy and competitive squad that can stay in the Premier League and build upwards from there.

"Wealth is like wallpaper" - Come off it lad. You're fooling nobody.

martyos121

One of the quotes Ashley came out with in that interview particularly confused me:

Every penny the club generates [Rafa] can have, but it won't generate enough.

For a club with such a strong brand and no shortage of fan support, if he can't figure out how to monetise that and actually create healthy funds for the manager to spend on players, why the f**k is he still bothering? There's plenty of other ways to advertise your sportswear company, so maybe leave the ownership of football clubs to those that have an interest in growing and improving them? It's pathetic that he isn't even trying to make a profit from the club, it's like he genuinely doesn't want the supporters to experience any modicum of success.

It's probably no secret that this club isn't the one I genuinely support (though I follow it as closely as the club I do support, and I apologise if that rubs some of you the wrong way), but it absolutely infuriates me that this crook is still exploiting the club to further his other ventures and there's no real sign of him going away anytime soon. He says he won't sell up until a trophy is won, even though he shows absolutely zero ambition to do so.

Much respect to all the proper Newcastle fans for enduring this turmoil, hopefully the days of Champions League football will return one day, as far away as it seems now.

M5

We know we cant compete with city. But i dont think that competing with Brighton, Huddersfield, Bournemouth etc is a stretch. I am amazed (well actually im no tbf) that he was not asked this basic question during the "interview". I guess it suits the narrative of the deluded geordies expecting to be in the champions league every year!

We have not broken our record set in 2005 since Ashley took over despite the huge increase in TV money. In fact pretty much every other revenue stream has decreased since. Again no questions about that today

That_Guy

The fact that he opted to speak to Sky rather than local press or via the official NUFC website says it all really.

Sky see it as a national scoop to get him on TV. They in turn will go easy on him to garner sympathy from fans who aren't as tuned in to the goings on as we would.

If he had a bit of balls about him he'd sit down with supporters groups and take questions from local journos who have serious burning questions for him.

He won't though and we'll continue to sleepwalk through season after season until it eventually goes tits up yet again.

That_Guy

That Ashley interview is on Sky Premier League at 7pm tonight. It's going to be a rage inducing segment because we know that he'll not be asked any tough questions or challenged on his BS statements.

But if it keeps the narrative going about deluded Newcastle fans then that's all that matters I suppose.

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Just on the game today, it'll be a really tough ask but I always find that we're at our most dangerous when there's a disgruntled and snarling crowd going into a game.

I expect Rafa to have us lined up as follows:

Elliot

Manquillo --- Lascelles --- Lejeune --- Dummett

Hayden --- Shelvey

Ritchie --- de Jong --- Atsu

Gayle

Think it'll be too much for Merino to start but I'd expect himself and Perez to come off the bench if shhits the fan.

Murphy will likely feature at some stage too but I think that's about as strong a starting XI we have right now.

Hayden will be crucial to our season I think. He looks very composed for someone so young. Very tidy footballer. We missed him big time when he was out injured last season.

I just hope we're competitive and that players step up because there's very little competition for places as things stand.

That_Guy

Starting XI:

Elliot, Manquillo, Clark, Lejuene, Dummett, Ritchie, Hayden, Shelvey, Atsu, Perez, Gayle

Surprised Clark starts ahead of Lascelles.

D_turbo

Feeling some what optimistic today for some reason.
Hopefully will be a solid unit.

talks of us wanting wilshire on loan, Wish wed just buy perez and get a bit of a buzz going

That_Guy

D_turbo wrote: »

Feeling some what optimistic today for some reason.
Hopefully will be a solid unit.

talks of us wanting wilshire on loan, Wish wed just buy perez and get a bit of a buzz going

Wilshere on loan is a colossal waste of time. The chap just isn't good enough and is injury prone as they come. Any consistency we'd be hoping for would go out the window right away.

Perez is the one we should be going for.

D_turbo

That_Guy wrote: »

Wilshere on loan is a colossal waste of time. The chap just isn't good enough and is injury prone as they come. Any consistency we'd be hoping for would go out the window right away.

Perez is the one we should be going for.

Absolutely, Has talent but just cant find it majority of the time when hes not injured.
They turned down an 8m£ for him at the start of the window and arsneal laughed it off, really not sure who they think they have.

Perez would be serious player for us, 13M£ would be a steal with the way things are. Hes record in depor is fantastic and hes small minutes with arsenal yielded 7 goals and 5 assists and a few created chances, not sure where the issue is.

Few of the dead wood lads are happy to sit around for a paycheck, turning down smaller wages which is killing us

That_Guy

D_turbo wrote: »

Perez would be serious player for us, 13M£ would be a steal with the way things are. Hes record in depor is fantastic and hes small minutes with arsenal yielded 7 goals and 5 assists and a few created chances, not sure where the issue is.

The issue is a certain Mr. Ashley.

See, his issue is that he thinks fans are demanding to fork over hundreds of millions when the opposite is in fact more truthful.

If you can't fork over £20m to grab a striker and a goalkeeper then you shouldn't be owning a club in the top flight.

Only Newcastle could attach themselves to a supposed poor billionaire. :pac:

BArra

Are de Jong and Jacobs on the bench?

That_Guy

BArra wrote: »

Are de Jong and Jacobs on the bench?

Murphy is on the bench. de Jong not even in the squad.

Duff

Is De Jong injured again or what? Can't see why he wouldn't be in the squad otherwise?!

BArra

yeah i am hoping de Jong is not injured again, feel bad for the guy. always wanted to see him in full flow for an extended period

BArra

Dummetts hamstring has gone, Lascelles coming on

D_turbo

Lejine off to.
Well have a thin defensive bench from the go it seems

Duff

Tame enough first half. Atsu and Perez looking lively enough. Highlight for me was Clark managing to do himself with a Cruyff turn.

That_Guy

Defending very well but we've feck all going forward. Spurs are doing well to stifle Shelvey as he is the only one with any sort of decent long pass on him.

BArra

Shelvey you idiot.

Duff

**** off Shelvey, **** right off

D_turbo

Shelvey is an absolute ****in idiot. Why vother

Duff

Red card and 2 injuries. It's great to be back.

That_Guy

Shelvey.... Fúcking clown.

That_Guy

We all know how this ends lads.

eagle eye

No excuse for what Shelvey did but Dele Alli has been at it from early on in this game. You seen how Ritchie went after him. Ref should have carded him early on I feel.

And the villain scores now.

Duff

Now to roll over and concede 5

That_Guy

Ugh....

Duff

I'm knackered thinking about this season already.

chewed

This is torturous