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  • #812
    Vinnie L
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 56 ✭✭Vinnie L


    AtomicHorror wrote: »
    You've read all 30,000 posts in the BC&P threads? There are plenty of supporters of J C, though they come and go. Only J C is constant.

    I've read quite a lot of that forum, but other than JC I don't see much support for it from Christians there at all. I don't see anyone agreeing with him here either, or is after hours for atheists only ?
    AtomicHorror wrote: »
    Creationists are a lot more common than that, and not so remote from us. There's at least one creationist MLA in the Northern Ireland Assembly.

    At least one in how many ? and if you think that someone in the DUP is representative of Christians, I'm afraid I can't help you.


  • #813
    Vinnie L
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 56 ✭✭Vinnie L


    5uspect wrote: »
    There have been several posters of a Creationist persuasion popping up in those forums and the BC&P threads over the years, not to mention the many many Christians hostile to evolution with utter ignorance of science.

    Where are these many many Christians you speak of ?


  • #814
    J C
    Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    Vinnie L wrote: »
    Poster JC, why do you not believe in theistic evolution ?
    Because there is no evidence for it.
    Vinnie L wrote: »
    There is no conflict between true Christian faith and true science.
    One does not contradict the other.
    The truth is just the truth.
    All true ... and pointing towards the Creation and Intelligent Design of life.


  • #815
    5uspect
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 10,518 Mod ✭✭✭✭5uspect


    Vinnie L wrote: »
    Where are these many many Christians you speak of ?

    You know there's a search function on boards? I won't name names, since many of them have left, but the list is long and even includes a former Christianty forum mod.

    Here are just some if the results from a quick search:
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=55018589
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=57968831
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=63179222
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=55969722
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=58435343

    Many of the threads created by the hit and run creationists just get lumped in here:
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=316566


  • #816
    J C
    Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    endacl wrote: »
    He only has one book in his shelf.
    You keep forgetting that I was an Evolutionist ... the whole nine yards ... so I've probably forgotten more about Evolution than most of you guys know about it.:)


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  • #817
    Doctor Jimbob
    Registered Users Posts: 7,652 ✭✭✭Doctor Jimbob


    J C wrote: »
    You keep forgetting that I was an Evolutionist ... the whole nine yards ... so I've probably forgotten more about Evolution than most of you guys know about it.:)

    Considering your poor grasp of basic biological concepts, I highly doubt that.


  • #818
    catallus
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭catallus


    I'm going to pray for those who so wilfully blind themselves to the majesty of creation.


  • #819
    J C
    Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    5uspect wrote: »
    You know there's a search function on boards? I won't name names, since many of them have left, but the list is long and even includes a former Christianty forum mod.

    Here are just some if the results from a quick search:
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=55018589
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=57968831
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=63179222
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=55969722
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=58435343

    Many of the threads created by the hit and run creationists just get lumped in here:
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=316566
    Yes there are a good few of us Christians about ... over 90% of the population of the Republic of Ireland ... on the last Census.:)


  • #820
    J C
    Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    Doctor Jimbob wrote: »
    Considering your poor grasp of basic biological concepts, I highly doubt that.
    Where did I exhibit this?


  • #821
    J C
    Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    AtomicHorror wrote: »
    You've read all 30,000 posts in the BC&P threads? There are plenty of supporters of J C, though they come and go. Only J C is constant.

    Creationists are a lot more common than that, and not so remote from us.
    We walk among you!!!:eek::D
    ... and we love you all.


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  • #822
    catallus
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭catallus


    J C wrote: »
    We walk among you!!!:eek::D
    ... and we love you all.

    21 pages and they can't handle all the love, JC! :pac:


  • #823
    5uspect
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 10,518 Mod ✭✭✭✭5uspect


    J C wrote: »
    Yes there are a good few of us Christians about ... over 90% of the population of the Republic of Ireland ... on the last Census.:)

    Got those peer reviewed papers for me? What about the subject of your supposed degrees?


  • #824
    J C
    Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    catallus wrote: »
    21 pages and they can't handle all the love, JC! :pac:
    Quite true catallus.
    I now know how God must feel when His love is rejected ... and thrown back in His face.


  • #825
    catallus
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭catallus


    Oh! how sharper than a serpent's tooth it is to have a thankless child!


  • #826
    Squeedily Spooch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 264 ✭✭Squeedily Spooch


    J C wrote: »
    Quite true catallus.
    I now know how God must feel when His love is rejected ... and thrown back in His face.

    God's supposed love isn't love. It's tyranny.


  • #827
    J C
    Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    5uspect wrote: »
    Got those peer reviewed papers for me? What about the subject of your supposed degrees?
    I am not going to waste my time reviewing already peer-reviewed papers ... most of which involve intra species 'evolution' that I already agree with anyway.

    If you want, I'll review the best paper you can get that supports 'molecules to Man' Evolution.


  • #828
    PopePalpatine
    Registered Users Posts: 11,953 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    Squeedily Spooch wrote: »
    God's supposed love isn't love. It's tyranny.

    This country has known tyranny all too well.


  • #829
    J C
    Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    catallus wrote: »
    Oh! how sharper than a serpent's tooth it is to have a thankless child!
    Quite true ... and an impertinent and cheeky one is even worse!!!:)


  • #830
    Doctor Jimbob
    Registered Users Posts: 7,652 ✭✭✭Doctor Jimbob


    J C wrote: »
    I am not going to waste my time reviewing already peer-reviewed papers ... most of which involve intra species 'evolution' that I already agree with anyway.

    If you want, I'll review the best paper you can get that supports 'molecules to Man' Evolution.

    No one is asking you to review a paper. They're asking you to provide peer reviewed evidence of your claims. The fact you don't seem to know what the term 'peer reviewed' means casts further doubt on your claims to be a scientist as well.
    On that topic, what was your degree in again?


  • #831
    Vinnie L
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 56 ✭✭Vinnie L


    5uspect wrote: »
    You know there's a search function on boards? I won't name names, since many of them have left, but the list is long and even includes a former Christianty forum mod.

    Many of the threads created by the hit and run creationists just get lumped in here:

    so in the thousands upon thousands of boards users, that's it ?


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  • #832
    J C
    Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    PopePalpatine wrote: »
    This country has known tyranny all too well.
    The total cost of my love and God's pure love ... is no charge.:cool:


  • #833
    5uspect
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 10,518 Mod ✭✭✭✭5uspect


    J C wrote: »
    I am not going to waste my time reviewing already peer-reviewed papers ... most of which involve intra species 'evolution' that I already agree with anyway.

    If you want, I'll review the best paper you can get that supports 'molecules to Man' Evolution.

    So you're saying all the articles in those journals I linked to are good sound science?

    What about your scientific degrees? Are you forthcoming on those?


  • #834
    Squeedily Spooch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 264 ✭✭Squeedily Spooch


    J C wrote: »
    The total cost of my love and God's pure love ... is no charge.:cool:

    But God's love isn't pure, it's very much based on worshipping him, and if you exercise that free will he supposedly instilled in all of us he throws you into a lake of fire for all eternity? Doesn't seem like a pure love to me.


  • #835
    J C
    Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    Doctor Jimbob wrote: »
    No one is asking you to review a paper.
    5uspect is
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=92578436&postcount=757

    ... and I was replying to him/her.


  • #836
    Doctor Jimbob
    Registered Users Posts: 7,652 ✭✭✭Doctor Jimbob


    Squeedily Spooch wrote: »
    But God's love isn't pure, it's very much based on worshipping him, and if you exercise that free will he supposedly instilled in all of us he throws you into a lake of fire for all eternity? Doesn't seem like a pure love to me.

    I've seen this 'love' compared to an abusive relationship before. It's a pretty good comparison.


  • #837
    J C
    Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    5uspect wrote: »
    So you're saying all the articles in those journals I linked to are good sound science?
    I didn't look at them because I don't have the time ... but most 'evolution' papers look at real world natural/sexual/artificial selection situations where there is no disagreement from me on them ... other than the verbal 'bowing and scraping' and 'genuflection' that sometimes accompanies them to 'Molecules to Man Evolution' ... even when the paper is not about this at all.
    5uspect wrote: »
    What about your scientific degrees? Are you forthcoming on those?
    No.

    Creation Science remains a 'love that dare not speak its name' ... or identify itself ... if the Creationist wants to remain employable.

    '


  • #838
    5uspect
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 10,518 Mod ✭✭✭✭5uspect


    J C wrote: »
    5uspect is
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=92578436&postcount=757

    ... and I was replying to him/her.

    I'm simply asking two things. Demonstrate what is wrong with any paper from a peer reviewed journal that deals with evolution. You've already claimed elsewhere that you believe there is a conspiracy against creationists. If this is so you should be able to show where a paper on Darwinian evolution is false or lies.

    Since you claim you are a scientist then I would expect you to use science to do so. I would then secondly like to know what kind of scientist you are.


  • #839
    Frank Bullitt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,745 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Ah yes, compulsory love, another bonus Christianity gives us.


  • #840
    Doctor Jimbob
    Registered Users Posts: 7,652 ✭✭✭Doctor Jimbob


    J C wrote: »
    I didn't look at them because I don't have the time ... but most 'evolution' papers look at real world natural/sexual/artificial selection situations where there is no disagreement from me on them ... other than the verbal 'bowing and scraping' and 'genuflection' that sometimes accompanies them to 'Molecules to Man Evolution' ... even when the paper is not about this at all.

    No.

    Creation Science remains a 'love that dare not speak its name' ... or identify itself ... if the Creationist wants to remain employable.

    '

    Saying what your degree is isn't going to identify you.:confused:


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  • #841
    J C
    Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    Squeedily Spooch wrote: »
    But God's love isn't pure, it's very much based on worshipping him, and if you exercise that free will he supposedly instilled in all of us he throws you into a lake of fire for all eternity? Doesn't seem like a pure love to me.
    It's pure love lavished on all of us, who are totally undeserving of it ... in justice we should all pay for our sins ... but God in His mercy has done this for us ... and all we have to do is ask Him to remit our sins in mercy or to retain them in justice.
    He will not force anybody to love Him or live with Him in Heaven when they die.
    If they wish to live with the 'other guy', God will grant them their wish also.
    The fact that the 'other guy' and his friends may not be too nice to live with ... and his abode could do with some air-conditioning isn't God's fault.:eek:


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