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Car Jackings Give them the keys or resist?

  • 10-10-2014 4:48pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,896 ✭✭✭✭


    Just breaking on RTE text news, news of a 2 vehicle crash on the Hearse Road in Donabate, apparantly one of the vehicles car jacked at Donabate Golf Club.

    So question is do you resist and get a kicking ( or worse ) or do you let them away with your pride and joy?

    Myself ( as a taxi driver ) I'd offer to drive them and see if I got paid :)

    Linkees
    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/two-people-and-a-child-taken-to-hospital-after-twocar-collision-30654225.html
    Emergency services rushed to the scene of a two-car collision in Donabate in Dublin this afternoon.

    A woman and a child were travelling in one car, while a man was travelling in the second vehicle.

    Emergency crews at the scene described the car crash as "serious". The crash occurred at Hearse Road at around 1.30pm.

    The two adults were taken to Beaumont hospital with leg injuries, while the child was taken to Temple Street Hospital.

    http://www.rte.ie/aertel/desktopxhtml/118-1.html
    10 Oct 2014 15:03
    Emergency services are at the scene of a two-car collision in Donabate in Dublin.
    It is understood one of the cars was car-jacked at Donabate Golf Club at around 12.25pm.
    The crash occurred at Hearse Road at around 1.30pm.


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,646 ✭✭✭✭qo2cj1dsne8y4k


    I always drive with my doors locked so I'd go with resist. But obviously one does not know until one is in the situation


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 500 ✭✭✭indigo twist


    I'd give them the keys, sure nearly every insurance policy covers theft.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,111 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Was in a somewhat situation a number of years ago. Group of younglads one opened the door and tried to kick me, I slammed the door (on his leg) and drove off with his leg. Prick fell over. Good enough for the git.

    So id say fight them or at least attempt a getaway.


  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    No car on earth is worth a risk to your life or health. Cars can be replaced, people can't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,344 ✭✭✭Thoie


    If they're already half in the car, or are outside the window with a gun, off they go and they're welcome to it.

    If they're outside my locked doors with a screwdriver, then ****'em. I'll drive off one way or another - if my only way out is through/over them, then so be it. "I was scared and my foot slipped".


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,043 ✭✭✭Wabbit Ears


    Does 3rd party fire and theft cover you if you hand over the keys?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,768 ✭✭✭dmc17


    Thoie wrote: »
    If they're already half in the car, or are outside the window with a gun, off they go and they're welcome to it.

    If they're outside my locked doors with a screwdriver, then ****'em. I'll drive off one way or another - if my only way out is through/over them, then so be it. "I was scared and my foot slipped".

    Then I accidentally knocked it into reverse and drove over them again :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 51 ✭✭laurenhiggins


    I think if it was just one or two I'd resist but if it was a gang I'd just let my insurance deal with it I'd value my life more thanks my car tbh .


  • Registered Users Posts: 159 ✭✭BlimpyBoy


    Does 3rd party fire and theft cover you if you hand over the keys?

    Yes. Yes it does.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,896 ✭✭✭✭Spook_ie


    Does 3rd party fire and theft cover you if you hand over the keys?

    I imagine if there was duress involved then they'd pay, I suppose the question would be if someone just said "give us yer keys" or if someone said "giv us yer keys or I'll stab yer!"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,285 ✭✭✭Summer wind


    I love my car it's the first car I've ever bought new. Even so I would never put myself or anyone in my car in danger. Just give them what they want and stay alive.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 954 ✭✭✭Highflyer13


    As a young man with no kids, I'd resist for sure. If/when I have a family I would let them have the car. Sick and tired of these scumbags running amok. I fancy my chances against a fair portion of them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,197 ✭✭✭Eutow


    listermint wrote: »
    Was in a somewhat situation a number of years ago. Group of younglads one opened the door and tried to kick me, I slammed the door (on his leg) and drove off with his leg. Prick fell over. Good enough for the git.

    So id say fight them or at least attempt a getaway.


    You take part of his leg clean off.... Well done sir


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,754 ✭✭✭oldyouth


    I would give them money for diesel ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,344 ✭✭✭Thoie


    dmc17 wrote: »
    Then I accidentally knocked it into reverse and drove over them again :)

    And then, in panic, I went forward again. In fact, I ended up performing a 53 point turn in my haste to escape.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 500 ✭✭✭indigo twist


    As a young man with no kids, I'd resist for sure. If/when I have a family I would let them have the car.

    Ooh good thinking. Let them have the car, with the family still in it! I like your style. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,573 ✭✭✭2ndcoming


    I don't read the Daily Mail so my fear level might be a bit low but I reckon the chances of this happening are so slim it's prob not even worth thinking about.

    If it did happen to me I'd prob offer to drive them to St. Lomans or Dundrum. Anyone who would carjack an 05 Peugeot 206 1.1 is in dire need of specialist help!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,896 ✭✭✭✭Spook_ie


    Ooh good thinking. Let them have the car, with the family still in it! I like your style. :D
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    This +1,000,000


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,607 ✭✭✭toastedpickles


    I'd be impressed if they managed to find where to put they key in mine first, once they got that, they have the fun game of getting the key out :o took me the whole day when i bought it first to figure it out


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    Depend on the situation I suppose, no one knows what they'll do until they are in that situation. Had a fella try to prise my door open at a roundabout once. (knew him too, well knew of him, he was infamous in the local area) Anyway, he didn't succeed, I was too quick for him, and in a strange coincidence he wound up in casualty with a dislocated shoulder and bruised ribs that very same evening.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Sky King


    I'd be impressed if they managed to find where to put they key in mine first, once they got that, they have the fun game of getting the key out :o took me the whole day when i bought it first to figure it out

    It goes in the ignition.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,607 ✭✭✭toastedpickles


    Sky King wrote: »
    It goes in the ignition.

    Very good :P but the ignition isnt where it should be


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,731 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    Its a car, its not worth putting yourself at risk for. I would just give them the keys and run away.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,041 ✭✭✭gw80


    Very good :P but the ignition isnt where it should be

    Saab ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    Very good :P but the ignition isnt where it should be
    It goes here


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    2ndcoming wrote: »
    I don't read the Daily Mail so my fear level might be a bit low but I reckon the chances of this happening are so slim it's prob not even worth thinking about.

    If it did happen to me I'd prob offer to drive them to St. Lomans or Dundrum. Anyone who would carjack an 05 Peugeot 206 1.1 is in dire need of specialist help!

    Fair play for not reading the daily mail, but this is on RTE teletext.


    I'd be impressed if they managed to find where to put they key in mine first, once they got that, they have the fun game of getting the key out :o took me the whole day when i bought it first to figure it out


    I don't think are to bothered about getting the key back out as they usually just abandon it or crash it.


    I wouldent be giving over my car to easily to anyone,nope not at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,127 ✭✭✭✭kerry4sam


    Spook_ie wrote: »
    Just breaking on RTE text news, news of a 2 vehicle crash on the Hearse Road in Donabate, apparantly one of the vehicles car jacked at Donabate Golf Club.

    So question is do you resist and get a kicking ( or worse ) or do you let them away with your pride and joy?

    Myself ( as a taxi driver ) I'd offer to drive them and see if I got paid :)

    Linkees
    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/two-people-and-a-child-taken-to-hospital-after-twocar-collision-30654225.html


    http://www.rte.ie/aertel/desktopxhtml/118-1.html

    It's like instinct now with me and people actually laugh when they get into my car with my routine :
    ~ engine on
    ~ lights on
    ~ doors locked!
    ~ only then does my seatbelt go on.
    That's just the way I operate and hopefully won't change. I always lock my car doors driving anywhere.
    I'd like to think I'd give the keys, but I know in my heart it won't happen easily. I'd keep my keys for as long as possible,

    My life could well be saved if I'd hand them over though,
    kerry4sam


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,572 ✭✭✭Colser


    Not sure what i would do tbh...I could either put up a fight and probably come out the worse or give them the keys and face my OH and try an explain that his pride and joy:rolleyes: is gone forever...lose lose situation for me either way:pac:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,219 ✭✭✭pablo128


    Before I left the car I would try to break off the key blade in the ignition. Let them try to drive it while holding the broken off bit with the chip up against the ignition.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,954 ✭✭✭Tail Docker


    After I stopped laughing, I'd batter 'em.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,415 ✭✭✭ofcork


    kerry4sam wrote: »
    It's like instinct now with me and people actually laugh when they get into my car with my routine :
    ~ engine on
    ~ lights on
    ~ doors locked!
    ~ only then does my seatbelt go on.
    That's just the way I operate and hopefully won't change. I always lock my car doors driving anywhere.
    I'd like to think I'd give the keys, but I know in my heart it won't happen easily. I'd keep my keys for as long as possible,

    My life could well be saved if I'd hand them over though,
    kerry4sam

    I actually lock the doors before I start the car,put on seatbelt or anything else.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,111 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Eutow wrote: »
    You take part of his leg clean off.... Well done sir

    I chuckled. Well played


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 717 ✭✭✭rubberdiddies


    This particular incident in Donabate was horrific:

    http://www.herald.ie/news/carjacker-tried-to-steal-bmw-before-collision-30658321.html
    HERALD wrote:
    A MAN who drove a hijacked Honda into another car, injuring a woman and her young son, had moments earlier tried to steal a BMW from a golf club car park..............(the alleged), from Rooskey, Co Roscommon, has 75 previous convictions for offences including driving while disqualified and speeding and 15 convictions for not having insurance.

    The woman he smashed into is still in hospital with serious injuries whilst the child, thankfully is now at home after being in Temple st.

    This man has 75 previous convictions and was let off prison time in 2010 because he promised he wouldnt drive again. and guess what, the judge bought it. I partly blame the judge for the injuries he caused to this woman and child as well as the trauma to the woman who's car he hijacked and the man who's car he failed to hijack.

    Why are our judges so lenient? I know this is brought up on a daily basis but FFS this is the kind of stuff it leads to.

    "oh please your honour, i wont do it again, i promise, even though i have 70 other convictions, i promise you i wont do it again...i have 2 kids that need me" why do our judges believe this sh1te?

    my ranting isnt going to change anything but as a nation we just accept this lenient/non existing sentencing.

    in my opinion, if this piece of dirt survives, he will be let off with a warning. the womans insurance company will probably have to compensate him for his injuries too.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,464 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    After I stopped laughing, I'd batter 'em.

    Ah yeah sure of course you would.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,991 ✭✭✭paulbok


    I'd give them the keys and ask them to write it off when they are finished with it.
    I hate my car.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭JuliusCaesar


    Thoie wrote: »
    If they're outside my locked doors with a screwdriver, then ****'em. I'll drive off one way or another - if my only way out is through/over them, then so be it. "I was scared and my foot slipped".

    I had this happen once. I was driving slowly in a (very quiet) car park, looking for a space when two 12 year olds came up to me and one of them smashed the drivers window with a massive screwdriver. I got such a fright that when I tried to drive off I cut the engine out, and they seemed so frightened at what they'd done that they ran away. I was awfully shocked though.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,297 ✭✭✭Jaxxy


    I'd hand the keys over. My car has a Clifford BlackJax (anti-carjacking) system, so they'd get maybe a hundred meters up the road before the car went nuts (lights, sirens, etc) and if the code isn't entered in a hidden panel, it shuts down its own engine.

    Fancy. :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    Depends. If they're half in the car or something with a weapon I'd give up but if they stepped in front of the car and tried to stop me I'd probably accidentally not be able to stop the car in time.

    My car is pretty sh1t though so it would be a pretty weird criminal that would try and jack it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,971 ✭✭✭Holsten


    I'd try drive away, if they managed to get the door open or pull me out I'd let them have it.

    Not getting stabbed/shot over a car.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,312 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    ofcork wrote: »
    I actually lock the doors before I start the car,put on seatbelt or anything else.
    I lock them before I get in


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,464 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    Cienciano wrote: »
    I lock them before I get in

    Thats a good precaution.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,042 ✭✭✭Bpmull


    I suppose it depends on the situation. But even though I take great pride in my car and enjoy it I'd most likely just hand over the keys. Maybe if it was one guy with no weapons but any other situation they can have the keys.

    A good point brought up in this thread is about locking your doors when driving. I think it's a really good habit to get into. Unfortunately more often than not I forget to. But when going through towns built up areas and being stopped at lights when you think about it the locked doors are the only thing that will protect you from anyone simply getting into the car.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,147 ✭✭✭PizzamanIRL


    I'd let them jack me all day long. Real hard.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 329 ✭✭BlatentCheek


    Bpmull wrote: »
    A good point brought up in this thread is about locking your doors when driving. I think it's a really good habit to get into. Unfortunately more often than not I forget to. But when going through towns built up areas and being stopped at lights when you think about it the locked doors are the only thing that will protect you from anyone simply getting into the car.

    Definitely, though I think people opening your doors when your stopped at lights to nick stuff is much more common than people doing it to car jack you. Some newer cars lock automatically which is handy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,021 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    Couple of years back was stopped in traffic in Parnell Street. I had a brand new white Golf GTD, beautiful car, but very blingy looking, would have stood out like a sore thumb and also a woman driver. Perfect fodder. Three skangers came across the road, two went to one side of the car and the third guy round the other side and all three tried to pull open the door, which thankfully, was locked.

    I got an awful fright but as there was a gap between me and the car in front, I immediately took off like a rocket out and around the car stopped in front of me in a blind panic and drove straight through the red lights. Thank God there was no cars coming as I could have caused an accident but I was not thinking as I was so scared. I nearly ran over them in the process and they scattered actually jumping off the road. I was actually shocked at myself that I was planning on running over them (not intentionally but to get away from them) that I know if I am ever in the same position again I will have no issue in driving straight over them.


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