Budget 2015 [De wan an' only thread!]

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listermint wrote: »

Oh jesus.

There is nothing "to be fair" in that statement. Are you seriously taking the onus of the government for their implementation of the private entity that is irish water. Hand washing at is best. You must work in the dept.

lol.. you must not have read too many of my posts regarding politics in this country if you think I work for FG

awec

Oh goody. First Mick, now here's his buddy Clare Daly.

She's the one who used expenses for things she shouldn't have, so now it's her turn to stand there and pontificate.

Uriel.

tayto lover wrote: »

What about USC and VRT at the rates we pay, is that in other countries?

I don't know, rates of everything vary across countries, including social protection rates.

The requirement to adopt certain charing provisions is however consistent across the EU generally, though often the process and the amount of such charges is left to national competence

Clandestine

Happyman42 wrote: »

Oh... that means I don't have to hide my spliff anymore?

If only

crannglas

Don't quote me on it but I believe there is percentage of 54 percent on 30 k and over middle income 32 percent on under 30k lower paid, and 13 percent on over 75 grand higher earners. Or so I read. So until the higher end of the middle income feel sting or speak up if they are, there will be no change.

Davarus Walrus

My name is URL wrote: »

Most people on AH are deluded enough to see themselves as middle income earners by the looks of it :pac:

Despite Ireland having one of the highest rates of low paying jobs in the world :rolleyes:

http://www.finfacts.ie/irishfinancenews/article_1028223.shtml

You might want to stop being in such a state of perpetual outrage for a while, and investigate why the countries listed are the ones shown.

Buzzwords: minimum wage, Western Europe, very wealthy.

VinLieger

Jesus, I got a fright when I though Clare Daly had actually washed her hair but the camera focused in and I saw all was right with the world

DamagedTrax

Davarus Walrus wrote: »

Can't do both horse. Can't be giving those who don't have work more, while also giving breaks to the middle. The figures just don't add up.

its not about giving breaks to the middle. its about giving incentive to start-up in the first place.

have you tried to start a small business in this country? they constantly turn away people who have ideas that could provide 1 or 2 wages because i guess it's too small fry. if you try to get an enterprise loan they will dicatate what it can or cant be spent on, regardless of the particular business/industry needs.

the only other option is investors. there aint many investing right now.

listermint

Clare has her figures correct tbf

tayto lover

The Grusome Twosome are always together.

Bannasidhe

Davarus Walrus wrote: »

I presume it's that voice of the common man, Wallace?

What a disgusting shyster. The very definition of a hypocrite.

He blew the lid on what was going on with penalty points which is more than the suited shysters managed to do.

AND he is asking very pertinent questions about how exactly Denis O Brien got his hands all over our water...again, more than the suited shysters are doing.

As for hypocrites sitting in the Dail - there's a good few sitting there in the front claiming to be members of a socialist political party founded by James Connolly.

kerryguy78

Dolers get 25% crimbo bonus and hard workers get our bonus taxed, disgrace.

mrsbyrne

listermint wrote: »

Tax relief on bin charges is also gone this year.

Tax relief on bins has been gone for at least 2 yyears

ThisRegard

eagle eye wrote: »

Any increase is not helping people to give them up. It just means that if they have a family that there will be less money for food and clothes for kids.

They make the decision to spend less on their kids and food.

hju6

VinLieger wrote: »

Jesus, I got a fright when I though Clare Daly had actually washed her hair but the camera focused in and I saw all was right with the world

Have you not noticed the price of a shower lately?

awec

"It is the equivalent of 1 million people on the streets of London".

That's not quite correct Clare. 100,000 is never the equivalent of 1 million.

listermint

awec wrote: »

"It is the equivalent of 1 million people on the streets of London".

That's not quite correct Clare. 100,000 is never the equivalent of 1 million.

Awe awec. Put two and two together

tayto lover

awec wrote: »

"It is the equivalent of 1 million people on the streets of London".

That's not quite correct Clare. 100,000 is never the equivalent of 1 million.

Don't worry it will get to that number yet.

awec

listermint wrote: »

Awe awec. Put two and two together

That gives 4.

Still quite a bit short of 1 million.

My name is URL

Davarus Walrus wrote: »

You might want to stop being in such a state of perpetual outrage for a while, and investigate why the countries listed are the ones shown.

Buzzwords: minimum wage, Western Europe, very wealthy.

Where's the outrage in what I said?

If you have anything of construct to add then I'm all ears, but if you're going to repeatedly reply to what I say by claiming that I'm outraged, kindly stick me on ignore or don't bother engaging.

Fact is that Ireland has the second highest percentage of low earners in the world, despite so many people convincing themselves that they belong to the 'squeezed middle'

Buzzwords indeed

awec

Have any of these loony left speakers expressed outrage at the 25% dole bonus?

DamagedTrax

kerryguy78 wrote: »

Dolers get 25% crimbo bonus and hard workers get our bonus taxed, disgrace.

doesnt affect me but im not going to begrudge the most vunerable 40 quid at christmas... jesus christ!! :eek:

so what if some of them will drink it or smoke it.. its the ones it helps that should matter, the scroungers arent going to stop scrounging because they got a few quid extra at christmas.

tayto lover

Nearly all those feckers were texting on their phones while people were speaking.
Phones should be banned from the Dail chamber. Very bad manners.

Benteke

On Nov 1 it will be twice as much and it will be the equivalent of 2 million on the streets of London

VinLieger

I learned today that middle and high earners pay 80% of income tax and URSC while only making up 24% of the population.

I think that's a very interesting piece of information.

Uriel.

listermint wrote: »

Awe awec. Put two and two together

Four is not the same as a million either

LookingFor

On the question of 'what is a high earner', I was reading this a few days ago... not sure how it stacks up, but this article (via 'Nevin Economic Research Institute ') suggests that on an individual basis, 60k+ is top 10% territory in Ireland.

http://www.thejournal.ie/readme/high-earner-ireland-755580-Jan2013/

efb

It's 25% of 1.9% so .4%

qo2cj1dsne8y4k

Look at your one on her phone

listermint

tayto lover wrote: »

Nearly all those feckers were texting on their phones while people were speaking.
Phones should be banned from the Dail chamber. Very bad manners.

I don't understand why they are allowed anyway. Ridiculous

DamagedTrax

Benteke wrote: »

On Nov 1 it will be twice as much and it will be the equivalent of 2 million on the streets of London

fingers crossed and weather permitting :mad::D:eek:

CaptainInsano

awec wrote: »

"It is the equivalent of 1 million people on the streets of London".

That's not quite correct Clare. 100,000 is never the equivalent of 1 million.

Cough pedantic splutter cough.

crannglas

awec wrote: »

Oh goody. First Mick, now here's his buddy Clare Daly.

She's the one who used expenses for things she shouldn't have, so now it's her turn to stand there and pontificate.

Claire Daly is a decent sort with a lot of back bone and puts her money where her mouth is. At least people in her constiuncey know her and actually see her when no elections on. I have not seen a ff lab fg member anywhere in my area since las t GE. Even then they didn't want to speak to the likes of me with no money for their pockets.

kerryguy78

DamagedTrax wrote: »

doesnt affect me but im not going to begrudge the most vunerable 40 quid at christmas... jesus christ!! :eek:

so what if some of them will drink it or smoke it.. its the ones it helps that should matter, the scroungers arent going to stop scrounging because they got a few quid extra at christmas.

fair enough but i have a major problem with the long term spongers in this country who wouldn't take a job if they offered!

tayto lover

VinLieger wrote: »

I learned today that middle and high earners pay 80% of income tax and URSC while only making up 24% of the population.

I think that's a very interesting piece of information.

Tell me about it :mad:

Dyr

Davarus Walrus wrote: »

You might want to stop being in such a state of perpetual outrage for a while, and investigate why the countries listed are the ones shown.

Buzzwords: minimum wage, Western Europe, very wealthy.

Because they're developed economies?

Should we be comparing our economy to sub saharan african ones?

Either way you should take it up with the OECD, or claim they're all shinners :rolleyes:

TallGlass

kerryguy78 wrote: »

Dolers get 25% crimbo bonus and hard workers get our bonus taxed, disgrace.

Seen this on Facebook from about some gouger youngone.

You should be giving a bonus for having a job.

[POSTER]What happend in budget

[A]Not on till 2 xx

Got fiver a child in d budget on children allowance lol x

[POSTER AGAIN]Wa dey say bou xmas bonus

[C]Al I heard was jobseekers got 25℅ bk on there bonus

DamagedTrax

kerryguy78 wrote: »

fair enough but i have a major problem with the long term spongers in this country who wouldn't take a job if they offered!

we all do. but our social system doesnt make a public declaration of who is in what situation and why.

do we want to be the society that boots everyone in need because of a few who take advantage?

crannglas

kerryguy78 wrote: »

Dolers get 25% crimbo bonus and hard workers get our bonus taxed, disgrace.

I don't get Christmas bonus yay me

Specialun

How many more times is tnis geezer going to say the word disability

ThisRegard

listermint wrote: »

You must work in the dept.

You still throwing these accusations around at those who don't fall in line with you?

Uriel.

DamagedTrax wrote: »

we all do. but our social system doesnt make a public declaration of who is in what situation and why.

do we want to be the society that boots everyone in need because of a few who take advantage?

No, we want to make sure that it's not a life style choice and have sufficient measures in place to ensure, insofar as possible that those who should be able to work, do actually work

KERSPLAT!

What's the 25% SW thing?

awec

KERSPLAT! wrote: »

What's the 25% SW thing?

People on welfare get a 25% bonus at Christmas.

listermint

ThisRegard wrote: »

You still throwing these accusations around at those who don't fall in line with you?

Awe are you sorry I left the other thread? You decided to drag it here. Also I never accused you of working for the government.

So erm...

DarkJager

Specialun wrote: »

How many more times is tnis geezer going to say the word disability

Had to turn it off, a load of ranting about **** all in particular.

Bannasidhe

Uriel. wrote: »

No, we want to make sure that it's not a life style choice and have sufficient measures in place to ensure, insofar as possible that those who should be able to work, do actually work

Actual paying jobs would be a good place to start.

FloatingVoter

kerryguy78 wrote: »

fair enough but i have a major problem with the long term spongers in this country who wouldn't take a job if they offered!

Offer me a job. Now. Or apologise and admit you are typing rubbish.

qo2cj1dsne8y4k

awec wrote: »

People on welfare get a 25% bonus at Christmas.

Why? A bonus for doing nothing.

tayto lover

Moan and her puppies on the News.