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Estonia v England. ITV1. KO 5pm

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  • #52
    AllGunsBlazing
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    Headshot wrote: »
    What ever happened to the next big thing, Jack Wilshere?

    Too many niggling injuries at.the start of his career. Lost his rhythm and can't quite get it back.


  • #53
    K4t
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,362 ✭✭✭K4t


    Amazing how Rooney transforms into a sunday league player when playing for England. He's been shocking tonight but at least that free kick went in which will save some criticism.


  • #54
    Headshot
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    Shocking finishing


  • #55
    AllGunsBlazing
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    Lazy finish.


  • #56
    Kirby
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    Poor...


  • #57
    RQ2013
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    Should have scored


  • #58
    Dozen Wicked Words
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    I'd imagine Estonia is a brilliant away trip for the fans anyway, in spite of the football.


  • #59
    shano_88
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    Headshot wrote: »
    What ever happened to the next big thing, Jack Wilshere?

    Best English player on the pitch.

    It's becoming fashionable to have digs at Wilshere lately.


  • #60
    Dozen Wicked Words
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    Well that's that chore done again for a while.


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  • #61
    K4t
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    AllGunsBlazing wrote: »
    Can see England side suffering the same fate in France as it did in Brazil. Nothing really outstanding about any of them. Comparable to a mid-table premiere league outfit, if even that.
    Rubbish.

    The problem is Hodgson. He is a footballing disease.


  • #62
    callaway92
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    Dozen Wicked Words wrote: »
    I think a point will be OK, we all know it's much harder to play against 10 plucky underdogs, the sending off didn't do England any favours. Any clean sheet is admirable, lot of fatigue, positive there's no injuries.

    And that's all I've got.

    Ah c'mon. . . .


  • #63
    Dozen Wicked Words
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    callaway92 wrote: »
    Ah c'mon. . . .

    That was just one of many straws clutched at that time!


  • #64
    Rayne Wooney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,136 ✭✭✭✭Rayne Wooney


    Managers are always blamed with England

    Rooney will drag them to the euros, their best player by far


  • #65
    Rayne Wooney
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    Wilshere is great when he's not injured


  • #66
    AllGunsBlazing
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    K4t wrote: »
    Rubbish.

    The problem is Hodgson. He is a footballing disease.

    Really? And what was the reason for England's exact same shortcomings at international tournaments prior to his arrival?


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  • #67
    Soups123
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    Headshot wrote: »
    What ever happened to the next big thing, Jack Wilshere?

    Very good again today, MOTM.

    Has started well this season for Arsenal argueably our best midfielder do far this season


  • #68
    Dozen Wicked Words
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    Too much analysis going on, because this, genuinely, is what England have been like since the late 90s,with good managers and bad managers and good players and very average players.

    Can't see any reasons for more hope or despair than usual.

    We should comfortably get out of this group and will perform as we always do at the actual tournament. Decidedly average.


  • #69
    K4t
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    Rayne Wooney wrote: »
    Managers are always blamed with England

    Rooney will drag them to the euros, their best player by far
    He might be the best English player but that hasn't been reflected by his England performances of late. He was awful tonight, could not even do the basics well.
    AllGunsBlazing wrote: »
    Really? And what was the reason for England's exact same shortcomings at international tournaments prior to his arrival?
    We're talking about this current squad of players. I think the reason for their poor performances is more to do with Hodgson than the players not being great. England have some fantastic players who would thrive under a manager with a clue ala Rodgers, Martinez someone with a hint of an attacking mind.


  • #70
    AllGunsBlazing
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    K4t wrote: »
    England have some fantastic players

    And they woud be?


  • #71
    Headshot
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    shano_88 wrote: »
    Best English player on the pitch.

    It's becoming fashionable to have digs at Wilshere lately.

    Wouldnt be that hard, would it? Its an awful team. When Wilshere came on the scene at first, he was unbelievable. Now he's just your average English CM.


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  • #72
    Shanotheslayer
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    AllGunsBlazing wrote: »
    And they woud be?

    Cahill,Sterling,Rooney,Jags(Well last year) have all been fantastic for club


  • #73
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Ah the England future is bright!

    U19s thrashed Belarus and Luxembourg
    U20s beat Germany and Netherlands in the last couple of days
    U21s beat Croatia

    of course it'll all go to hell when they get squeezed out of the top teams and end up in the Championship and League One.


  • #74
    Dozen Wicked Words
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    Harry Palmr wrote: »
    Ah the England future is bright!

    U19s thrashed Belarus and Luxembourg
    U20s beat Germany and Netherlands in the last couple of days
    U21s beat Croatia

    of course it'll all go to hell when they get squeezed out of the top teams and end up in the Championship and League One.

    Also after Aidy Boothroyd has trained any flair or skill out of the U20s and John Beck has trained future coaches in the art of hoofball.


  • #75
    AllGunsBlazing
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    Shanotheslayer wrote: »
    Cahill,Sterling,Rooney,Jags(Well last year) have all been fantastic for club

    Makes you wonder how Hodgson can't make a top international side from such an abundance of riches....


  • #76
    Harry Palmr
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    Dozen Wicked Words wrote: »
    Also after Aidy Boothroyd has trained any flair or skill out of the U20s and John Beck has trained future coaches in the art of hoofball.

    There is something wrong and I can't quite see what it is! :pac:


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