Intimadating looking dogs to keep away intruders

Karen91

Hello everyone,

My fiance and I live in Co Limerick, we are renting a house in the country side. We are living here the past 6 months and we don't want to move as the landlord allows pets and we had diffiulty finding a dog friendly house.

There is a field beside our house and the only access in is our yard, theres a gate leading in to this field from our yard. We realised the gate had been open a few times eventhough its not in use and totally overgrown. We have an alarm, we have cameras installed and a cctv in operation sign along with sensor lights and we leave lights on at the back of the house all night. Two weeks ago we caught a person on the property at 4am in the morning on camera but his face cannot be seen in the distance there is a car waiting for him since then the fied gate has been opened a few times so its clear somebody is making a habbit of going in and out, the guards did'nt pay much attention and said we were over reacting.


Can anyone reccomend intimidating looking dog breeds, im not interested in a dog who will bite and my pomeranian is a good alert dog she doesnt miss a trick but she is so tiny she would not intimidate scum like this.

Tranceypoo

Overreacting? Charming!

What are these men actually doing in the field and what do you want the 'intimidating looking' dog to actually do?

cocker5

OP, would you not consider putting a lock on the gate? Like a big one to prevent people from passing through?

Speak to your landlord makes sure he / she is not using the gate firstly, explain the situation and ask is it ok to lock.

nala2012

Could they be hunting in the field? Ask landlord if he has given permission to anyone to go into field?

pawrick

Could it be a drop off point for drugs etc. I'd get back on to the guards after checking with the landlord plus getting a lock.

aaakev

Sounds like someone hunting to me

runawaybishop

lol5posts

Alsations are big and intimidating but need plenty of company.

Doom

Put plenty of slippy grease on that gate and put some sort barbed wire around the top too.

Doom

nala2012 wrote: »

Could they be hunting in the field? Ask landlord if he has given permission to anyone to go into field?

Just so you know the landlord has no rights to allow anyone or even himself trespass your rental property for any reason.

stoeger

Could very well be someone hunting I hunt myself but any decent hunter will ask first before entering someone's land and wont go true your yard if thay can help it

Ave Sodalis

The problem with getting something like a GS or rottie that look intimidating (with the mind to use it as an intimidator) but aren't actually trained to guard is that they're more likely to get stolen. Buying any intimidating looking dog doesn't guarantee that they'd be any good at scaring people away. I know more intimidating looking dogs that once someone starts talking to them and giving them attention, they turn into the biggest saps ever.

Karen91

Just to clarify this person was not hunting it is clear that there is someone waiting in a car up the road for him he jumped over our wall and he was not dressed like someone out hunting he was wearing a cuffed track bottom and a hoodie and he hid his face with the hood on purpose the car sped off when he jumped in we could not read the reg though . The landlord did not give anyone permission to use the field for anything. He is being awkward about putting a lock on the gate so our hands are tied. We are planning on another dog anyway its not just to intimidate people its just that we are now more focused on choosing something like a GSD. We are afraid that it maybe a drop off location for drugs or something. People hunting usually carry euipment with them this person did not have anything and he ran and jumped over the wall when he activated the lights.

Bongalongherb

Karen91 wrote: »

Hello everyone,

My fiance and I live in Co Limerick, we are renting a house in the country side. We are living here the past 6 months and we don't want to move as the landlord allows pets and we had diffiulty finding a dog friendly house.

There is a field beside our house and the only access in is our yard, theres a gate leading in to this field from our yard. We realised the gate had been open a few times eventhough its not in use and totally overgrown. We have an alarm, we have cameras installed and a cctv in operation sign along with sensor lights and we leave lights on at the back of the house all night. Two weeks ago we caught a person on the property at 4am in the morning on camera but his face cannot be seen in the distance there is a car waiting for him since then the fied gate has been opened a few times so its clear somebody is making a habbit of going in and out, the guards did'nt pay much attention and said we were over reacting.


Can anyone reccomend intimidating looking dog breeds, im not interested in a dog who will bite and my pomeranian is a good alert dog she doesnt miss a trick but she is so tiny she would not intimidate scum like this.

Joan Burton would be a good breed to frighten burglars away. My first choice of breed I must say. She has qualities most other rough breeds don't have.

Knine

sup_dude wrote: »

The problem with getting something like a GS or rottie that look intimidating (with the mind to use it as an intimidator) but aren't actually trained to guard is that they're more likely to get stolen. Buying any intimidating looking dog doesn't guarantee that they'd be any good at scaring people away. I know more intimidating looking dogs that once someone starts talking to them and giving them attention, they turn into the biggest saps ever.

I have not had a Shepard in a while but I can tell you that any of the GS's we had were anything but Saps when someone they did not know came near the garden or house. This is especially true of the males. They were natural guards.

Ave Sodalis

Knine wrote: »

I have not had a Shepard in a while but I can tell you that any of the GS's we had were anything but Saps when someone they did not know came near the garden or house. This is especially true of the males. They were natural guards.

Not all of them are. My grandfather was a guard dog trainer and GS's were his choice of dog. Despite the fact he got them from pounds and rescues, not all dogs were suitable because some just refused to bite.

flutered

Bongalongherb wrote: »

Joan Burton would be a good breed to frighten burglars away. My first choice of breed I must say. She has qualities most other rough breeds don't have.

she has neither the looks, the brains or the temperment, a dog with a half vacent look on its face never scared anyone.

flutered

sup_dude wrote: »

Not all of them are. My grandfather was a guard dog trainer and GS's were his choice of dog. Despite the fact he got them from pounds and rescues, not all dogs were suitable because some just refused to bite.

we always have dogs from rescues, always bitches, always grateful for what one has done for them, there is a species proctected here on boards and repesented by pavee point, sheps really hate them

bilbot79

I think a Rottweiler or a Doberman is an 'I mean business' guard dog. An alsation is scary but everyone also knows how nice they can be if treated right. Personally I would go alsation, they will bark the house down if their is am intruder and the intruder won't question whether he is nasty or nice.

I think the Doberman might have issues with its brain growing too big for its skull and that sending them mental and unpredictable, might be an urban myth mind you.

I feel for you, I wouldn't like e idea of weird stuff going on near my house and I'd be thinking about a dog too.

muddypaws

bilbot79 wrote: »

I think a Rottweiler or a Doberman is an 'I mean business' guard dog. An alsation is scary but everyone also knows how nice they can be if treated right. Personally I would go alsation, they will bark the house down if their is am intruder and the intruder won't question whether he is nasty or nice.

I think the Doberman might have issues with its brain growing too big for its skull and that sending them mental and unpredictable, might be an urban myth mind you.

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yeah, very definitely an urban myth, one that thankfully, I've never heard before.

DBB

flutered wrote: »

we always have dogs from rescues, always bitches, always grateful for what one has done for them, there is a species proctected here on boards and repesented by pavee point, sheps really hate them

I think you'll find that inciteful posts about travellers are illegal under the equality legislation (even when you try to obfuscate who you're talking about using indirect wording), as opposed to being actively protected by boards.ie. I'm sure you wouldn't like for boards.ie to be seen to be upholding breaches of the law that could get both them and you into trouble?
Besides which, I don't know why you brought this into the discussion at all.
So, let's keep this thread away from this topic now please, and keep on-topic.
Do not reply to this post on-thread.
Thanks,
DBB

josip

Jack Russels would be very yappy and trespassers wouldn't appreciate the racket.

Karen91

josip wrote: »

Jack Russels would be very yappy and trespassers wouldn't appreciate the racket.

Yes we have looked into jack russels also its sad when you don't feel safe in your home and people can just go in and out of your yard as they please

lulu1

What I am wondering why is the landlord being so cagey about putting a lock on the gate. Maybe he is involved in whatever's going on in the field.

DoctorEdgeWild

I sympathise with your situation OP, it's a terrible thing to not feel safe in your own home.

However, as an owner of two German Shepherds, I'd just like to advise that they require a lot of training and attention in order to 'work' as guard dogs. They are highly intelligent, curious and wonderful dogs.

I think the landlord and the Gardai are more important to be involved than a dog. Every landlord wants happy tenants, explain yourself to him clearly and offer suggestions. Walls, fences, locks etc.

Best of luck to you.

TL,DR - A dog doesn't necessarily solve the problem you are having.

Witcher

lulu1 wrote: »

What I am wondering why is the landlord being so cagey about putting a lock on the gate. Maybe he is involved in whatever's going on in the field.

Probably because it's pointless, unless the gate is about 20 feet high they'll just climb over it :pac:

Bongalongherb

Blay wrote: »

Probably because it's pointless, unless the gate is about 20 feet high they'll just climb over it :pac:

Not if it's electrified.

The best alarm system in reality would be eircom phone-watch I think it's called. Once the alarm goes off the gardai will either be en route, or playing pool upstairs in the station if a cold night. Never know though, they might make it to you fast as well, it's a gamble, but better than having a dog just for security, because I knew folk before that got a dog just to watch the house but the poor feller was left in the back-garden for one purpose only and never much had human companionship.

Best bet is to get an alarm monitored from eircom if you are that worried. No point in getting any-kind of dog just to use as security. They can poison the dog as well if they really want to enter your abode at some time, so a dog is not the answer IMO.

Karen91

DoctorEdgeWild wrote: »

I sympathise with your situation OP, it's a terrible thing to not feel safe in your own home.

However, as an owner of two German Shepherds, I'd just like to advise that they require a lot of training and attention in order to 'work' as guard dogs. They are highly intelligent, curious and wonderful dogs.

I think the landlord and the Gardai are more important to be involved than a dog. Every landlord wants happy tenants, explain yourself to him clearly and offer suggestions. Walls, fences, locks etc.

Best of luck to you.

TL,DR - A dog doesn't necessarily solve the problem you are having.

Yes I know and I am also afraid of putting a dog in a dangerous situation, I have heard of dogs being beaten and poisoned by intruders.

A question about German Shepards and small dogs?

Can anyone tell me if the breed are ok around toy breeds we have a pom already so would the two be compatable?

bmm

The great thing about being a tenant is you can move. Plenty of dog friendly houses for rent around Limerick.

tk123

OP would you not just put a lock on the gate yourself? What happens if you do get a new dog and it escapes out of the garden via the gate and gets injured/causes an accident?

I have 2 retrievers - one of them will bark the place down if anyone comes into the garden. I've often looked out to see people delivering leaflets/church rubbish running out of the garden when the hear him!

DoctorEdgeWild

Karen91 wrote: »

Yes I know and I am also afraid of putting a dog in a dangerous situation, I have heard of dogs being beaten and poisoned by intruders.

A question about German Shepards and small dogs?

Can anyone tell me if the breed are ok around toy breeds we have a pom already so would the two be compatable?

Breed specific rules are often useless. My two are happy around any and all dogs. Our previous one was not good at all socially, especially around smaller dogs. It's almost entirely down to how they were raised, socialised, taught and trained.

I do fear that you are considering a dog purely for protection though, please don't take this the wrong way as I understand your safety fears, but taking on a dog in a huge commitment and should never be taken lightly or hastily.

josip

Bongalongherb wrote: »

Not if it's electrified.

The best alarm system in reality would be eircom phone-watch I think it's called. Once the alarm goes off the gardai will either be en route, or playing pool upstairs in the station if a cold night. Never know though, they might make it to you fast as well, it's a gamble, but better than having a dog just for security, because I knew folk before that got a dog just to watch the house but the poor feller was left in the back-garden for one purpose only and never much had human companionship.

Best bet is to get an alarm monitored from eircom if you are that worried. No point in getting any-kind of dog just to use as security. They can poison the dog as well if they really want to enter your abode at some time, so a dog is not the answer IMO.

If you electrify the gate you could end up being sued.