Your Fantasy Budget. After Hours style

Wompa1

Clandestine wrote: »

I don't think so, but we won't see most of these come into effect while I'm still alive. Give it 200/300 years and we'll see.

I'd love some of it but we're not there as a nation. Also, when you say no income tax....what do you envision? Massive homelessness or are you looking at somewhere like the UAE?

Because they take care of their locals....

padd b1975

Introduce taxes for horse breeding.

A betting tax.

Motor tax to be included in the price of petrol /diesel freeing up more Garda and public service hours.

Fast track the introduction of the broadcasting tax.

Better availability of start up grants for new businesses.

More Gardai on the streets, both new recruits and by increasing the retirement age.

TD 's and minister's pensions to be claimed on reaching the age of 65.

Root and branch review of public sector pensions.

Introduce a student's loan type scheme for those from a poorer background.

Increase paternity leave even if the only means of doing this is by cutting back maternity leave entitlements.

tomwaterford

MRnotlob606 wrote: »

Whats all this about squeezing the middle ? are the people at the bottom of the pile driving around in mercs or something ?

no....seemingly hanging around in A and Es drunk apparently...its like the new night club

Manach

Allow the Government to spend all the money it wants. The caveat being restricting it to a 10% of GDP. There has to be efficiencies made outside the crony capitalism/socialism that pervades the cosy-establishment that rules this country.

Wompa1

Manach wrote: »

Allow the Government to spend all the money it wants. The caveat being restricting it to a 10% of GDP. There has to be efficiencies made outside the crony capitalism/socialism that pervades the cosy-establishment that rules this country.

Great idea

c_man

- Invest a lot more in education. I mean c'mon it doesn't take a genius to see that good education is always linked with a strong economy.
- Some kind of stimulus plan involving home insulation, energy production etc. We've got climate change here lads, we better get ready.
- Tax breaks for promiscuous women.

Clandestine

knucklehead6 wrote: »

I love these 'victimless' crimes. A guy scams an insurance company and no one cares cos it's a victimless crime.

What are you on about?

Wompa1

c_man wrote: »

- Invest a lot more in education. I mean c'mon it doesn't take a genius to see that good education is always linked with a strong economy.

There's already significant investment....our system currently has lecturers who have not been active in the Industry for years. It's not investment that's required, they need to completely overhaul the way the system operates.

RayM

Ensure that all state-owned buildings run the gas off the electricity, and the electricity off the gas.

foggy_lad

tomwaterford wrote: »

that seems fair:pac:

all those getting childrens allowance count as receiving welfare aswel like

Eh the children are the ones getting the childrens allowance, it is not paid for adults but if a parent who is in receipt of a social welfare basic payment such as JSA or even Disability allowance is drunk and disorderly they lose all benefits for a month including any childrens allowance.

RayM

On-the-spot fines for people who whistle made-up tunes in public.

Nforce

Adriel Tall Skulduggery wrote: »

Getting rid of the TV license.

There's a TV licence?

tomwaterford

foggy_lad wrote: »

Eh the children are the ones getting the childrens allowance, it is not paid for adults but if a parent who is in receipt of a social welfare basic payment such as JSA or even Disability allowance is drunk and disorderly they lose all benefits for a month including any childrens allowance.

is it not paid to adults to help with cost of rearing children:eek:

either that or my parents are after scamming me for my first 18 years..:pac::(:o


what if its a pensioner gone mad on the oul brady....rioting in the a and e

0byme75341jo28

foggy_lad wrote: »

€1000 drunk tax for all attending A&E while drunk and disorderly, anyone on welfare payments doesn't pay but loses all payments for themselves and any family for a month.

A month in the future or lose payments for a month after the night they were found being drunk and disorderly? The latter sounds unworkable to be honest.

Tarzana

foggy_lad wrote: »

Eh the children are the ones getting the childrens allowance, it is not paid for adults

Nope, it's meant for parents, to contribute to the costs of raising their child(ren). It is not meant to be given directly to the child.

Irish Steve

It's AH, so here goes.

Do away with road tax by putting the equivalent on fuel costs, with a bias in favour of diesel to help the cost of distribution of goods.
Do away with private health insurance to reduce the cost of medical services, the cost of sending bills to the providers is a complete waste. Fund it by using PRSI properly, even if it means an increase to cover what would have been collected as private insurance costs.
Introduce a minimum charge of €500 for all hospital treatments that are drink related.
Introduce community based recycling schemes for waste disposal of brown bin waste, and green bin waste.
Increase the cost of cigarettes and tobacco products by at least 50%
Increase the cost of imported bottled water by 50% it's an inappropriate luxury item that's not needed, and the cost of shipping it all over the place is unsustainable
Introduce significant taxes on inappropriate sugar use in food products, especially on high sugar drinks
introduce charges on manufacturers who use excessive size packaging on products, (e.g. cardboard outer boxes that are only half full when opened.
Remove "bonuses" from all Semi state and state organisations
Remove "bonuses" from banking and related financial institutions by taxing them out of existence
Review "special" and "one off" payment systems in state and semi state employers
Introduce external performance reviews on state and semi state organisations to review performance of staff.
Remove severance packages from TD's and Senators. If they get fired, let them use the same system as all other employees.
Introduce the same rules, regulations and controls on TD's expenses and other "allowances" as are applied to the private sector.
Terminate all obscene pension schemes that have not been adequately funded, or that have been funded inappropriately.
Prevent pension payouts before retirement age, especially where the recipient moves from one state body to another state body and continues working.
Discontinue mandatory Irish in schools.
Remove the requirement for Irish in certain jobs.
Fund serious research into finding carbon free methods of heating houses and providing other energy to houses,
Reduce dependency on imported energy.
Provide adequate funding to ensure that businesses have access to state of the art broadband technology at competitive pricing.
Review all state and semi state employments that are paid more than €150K per annum.
Introduce a ban on all no win no fee legal cases.
Significantly increase research and funding for grants for property insulation.
Significantly increase research and funding for alternatives to carbon based fuels.
Require all suppliers to pay in full telephone call costs where they put the customer on hold
Require all companies to have non premium phone contact numbers available.

There's plenty more that could be done, but this would be a good start

keano_afc

Glock Lesnar wrote: »

Next budget should

Declare a socialist 32 county republic
90% tax bracket for those earning 50,000 or upwards
250€ allowance for those who regularly read an phoblact
Leave the EU
Remove levies on alcohol and cigarettes
All social welfare and allowances are doubled
Appoint a high inquisitor to hunt down and punish 'the bankers'

Pfft, anyone can copy and paste from sinnfein.ie

Phoebas

IvaBigWun wrote: »

A 70% tax bracket for anyone making more than €200k a year.

Sinn Fein's fantasy actual budget proposal has tax on anyone making over €100k going to 59% (Income Tax:48%, USC:7%, PRSI: 4%)

RobertKK

Remove the pension levy on private pensions, it is a tax on money that has already being taxed.
Instead let everyone who pay into a pension get the pension they paid for, not fantasy pensions like politicians make when they have not contributed the money towards it.

Clandestine

My opinions on a few of your points.

Irish Steve wrote: »

Increase the cost of cigarettes and tobacco products by at least 50%

A business should be allowed to charge whatever it likes for a product

Irish Steve wrote: »

Increase the cost of imported bottled water by 50% it's an inappropriate luxury item that's not needed, and the cost of shipping it all over the place is unsustainable

Not needed? If people are buying it, surely there's a need.

Irish Steve wrote: »

Introduce significant taxes on inappropriate sugar use in food products, especially on high sugar drinks

Why? Because you don't like them? Again, a business should be able to charge what it likes.

Irish Steve wrote: »

introduce charges on manufacturers who use excessive size packaging on products, (e.g. cardboard outer boxes that are only half full when opened.

Excess packaging is a charge for the manufacturers. If its in their best interests, they'll get rid of it. If not, they won't. Besides, what is "excess packaging" and how can it be measured?

Irish Steve wrote: »

Remove "bonuses" from banking and related financial institutions by taxing them out of existence

A business can pay a bonus if it likes. If you tax them "out of existence" private banks won't be operating in Ireland for much longer.

Irish Steve wrote: »

Require all companies to have non premium phone contact numbers available.

Why? If a customer doesn't want premium charges, they can not buy their goods to show their support for a fair charge for customer services.

dark crystal

Tax breaks for companies who provide childcare for their employees.

Scrap USC.

Either scrap the Jobsbridge scheme or else completely overhaul it. Companies who apply must be rigorously screened to make sure they are not just looking for free labour with no intention of hiring new staff and a strict limit on the number of interns each company can hire.

Local authorities given powers to fine problem social housing tenants and a three strike rule for anti-social behaviour. A few bad eggs can turn a nice housing estate into a living hell for responsible residents.

Bring back the affordable housing scheme for people wishing to buy their first property as owner occupiers.

Smidge

IvaBigWun wrote: »

In an ideal world

I'd introduce a €500 levy for anyone showing up at a hospital A&E as a result of being drunk and disorderly. If they cant afford to pay it then it comes out of their Social Welfare weekly.

A 70% tax bracket for anyone making more than €200k a year.

All political positions capped at €75k a year, including expenses and including the Taoiseach.

You?

Lol.
Yes because the only people who end up in a&e drunk are in receipt of sw.
I've seen more blathered idiots in suits and work outfits and at the weekend people who went out well dressed in a&e. Puking all over themselves, ranting for "daddy".

IvaBigWun

A tax for anyone posting more than 3 pictures and/or videos of their kids to social media per year.

You get:

Their birthday.

Their first day back at school.

On Christmas day with their presents.

Thats it.


After that: Bam! A €500 levy.

IvaBigWun

Smidge wrote: »

Lol.
Yes because the only people who end up in a&e drunk are in receipt of sw.
I've seen more blathered idiots in suits and work outfits and at the weekend people who went out well dressed in a&e. Puking all over themselves, ranting for "daddy".

That was a cockup to be fair. Ive fixed my original post to clarify.

AlanS181824

Increase tax for high earners, decrease tax for low earners.

Make children's allowance means tested.

Someone making €800+ a week shouldn't get the same amount of children's allowance vs someone earning €200 a week and scraping by.

IMO anyway!

Wompa1

Clandestine wrote: »

A business should be allowed to charge whatever it likes for a product

That wouldn't good....certain businesses already enter into price fixing amongst themselves which is illegal. You assume them setting their prices would be of benefit to us. What if a company gets a monopoly and decides to charge through the arse?

A particular problem when coupled with your suggestions for privatizing so many parts of our infrastructure

0byme75341jo28

AlanS181824 wrote: »

Increase tax for high earners, decrease tax for low earners.

Make children's allowance means tested.

Someone making €800+ a week shouldn't get the same amount of children's allowance vs someone earning €200 a week and scraping by.

IMO anyway!

That'll go down well.

Sir Arthur Daley

Triple the rock and roll for parents with more than 3 children, with class room sizes falling below average intensive needs to be introduced to bring the numbers up.

The Th!ng

€500 bounty to be paid out to homeowners for the shooting dead of each individual burglar found on their property. All cleaning, repairs, and disposal costs related to this activity shall be paid for by the state.

Capt'n Midnight

How would you pay the fine if you've spent all your money on drink ?

Sir Arthur Daley

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

How would you pay the fine if you've spent all your money on drink ?

With the rock and roll tripled it be no problem.

JC01

Get rid of social housing altogether.
Get rid of child allowance altogether.
Dole support for 6 months and that's it.

Use the gigantic savings made to cut income tax.

Privatise 95% of state-bodys/entities etc

Super-Rush

I'd make them eat poo.

Laois6556

Make 100,000 the most someone can earn, tax the rest of it off them. Be inventive with the millions you get from this action.

Sir Arthur Daley

Super-Rush wrote: »

I'd make them eat poo.

With the water charges now this will be evident.

Celly Smunt

Glock Lesnar wrote: »

Next budget should

Declare a socialist 32 county republic
Appoint a high inquisitor to hunt down and punish 'the bankers'

Do you know what a budget is?

0byme75341jo28

JC01 wrote: »

Get rid of social housing altogether.
Get rid of child allowance altogether.
Dole support for 6 months and that's it.

Use the gigantic savings made to cut income tax.

Privatise 95% of state-bodys/entities etc

I'd love to know what happens to all the homeless and starving...

Sir Arthur Daley

Adriel Tall Skulduggery wrote: »

I'd love to know what happens to all the homeless and starving...

Have you a tracking number?

RayM

Adriel Tall Skulduggery wrote: »

I'd love to know what happens to all the homeless and starving...

Feed the homeless to the starving. Two problems solved in one fell swoop.

awec

MRnotlob606 wrote: »

Whats all this about squeezing the middle ? are the people at the bottom of the pile driving around in mercs or something ?

The middle earn too much to benefit from the handouts given to the low earners and don't earn enough to comfortably cover the ever increasing costs.

People waffle on about the rich and the working class and forget that it's those in the middle who are getting screwed over all the time.

awec

Irish Steve wrote: »

It's AH, so here goes.

Do away with road tax by putting the equivalent on fuel costs, with a bias in favour of diesel to help the cost of distribution of goods.

This would cost the state a fortune when people could simply travel to NI to buy fuel tax free. A sizable portion of the population is within an hours drive of the border.

Billy86

Burn them, BURN THE ALL, THE BEASTS!

Wait, what, finances?

Tigger

AlanS181824 wrote: »

Increase tax for high earners, decrease tax for low earners.

Make children's allowance means tested.

Someone making €800+ a week shouldn't get the same amount of children's allowance vs someone earning €200 a week and scraping by.

IMO anyway!

no one earns 200 week they get it for nothing
give a children tax credit and srcop

Sir Arthur Daley

awec wrote: »

This would cost the state a fortune when people could simply travel to NI to buy fuel tax free. A sizable portion of the population is within an hours drive of the border.

Blow up all the roads marrying them together.

Pumpkinseeds

Since it's After Hours:

A maximum of 1 year only payment of Rent Allowance for unskilled people who have never worked or who are unemployed and not on training courses.

A cap on benefits so that nobody is better off on Social Welfare than they would be in full-time employment.

Means testing of benefits, so that people are only getting what they genuinely need, running a car is not a basic neccessity of life.

Means testing of child benefit

Means testing of state benefits for pensioners. Anyone with a large private pension should not be in receipt of free state benefits of any kind.

A 50% cut in benefits for any parents who have never worked to support their families and who are unwilling to pursue any training courses.

shruikan2553

100% tax and you get basic everything from the government. I'll even throw in an old Nokia phone as part of the package.

shruikan2553

Irish Steve wrote: »

Increase the cost of imported bottled water by 50% it's an inappropriate luxury item that's not needed, and the cost of shipping it all over the place is unsustainable

This one gave me a laugh. Suppose its a luxury if the world runs out of water one day.

greenbicycle

IvaBigWun wrote: »

All political positions capped at €75k a year, including expenses and including the Taoiseach.

You?

Jaysus, this sounds good to say but in reality if you only paid government leaders that much you would have pure eejits running the country (yes they are all eejits right now, I know, but they would be even more eejity!) you get what you pay for I reckon and I think to get someone good you have to pay well!

greenbicycle

I agree with the charging drunk and disorderly people for using public services like A & E.

In addition to this I think that anyone who is on social welfare should not be recieving benefits while they are in the care of a public body. So those in hospital (of any type) are already getting food and accommodation and all needs catered for so there is no need to be paid welfare, this is paying people on the double! there would be consideration made for other circumstances of the individual though,like if they had young family who needed care etc..

dr.bollocko

shruikan2553 wrote: »

This one gave me a laugh. Suppose its a luxury if the world runs out of water one day.

Yes. If the world runs out of water then bottled water will be the only solution.