Ireland v Germany

Barely There

brevity wrote: »

Same here. I'm not actually sure where it came from

I jumped up and spilled my beer all over myself.

That's not like me at all.

mada999

Proco Jr. wrote: »

Trap with a Derry accent did well in the end with his subs.

He was just correcting his mistakes from his starting line up.. imo

Sure why didnt he start with gibson and hoolihan and get them to defend..

Wouldn't have done any worse than Quinn and McGeady?! there's no way anyone can justify where McGeady was playing for most of the match? what was the purpose of it?

murpho999

Seeng the goal calmly now makes me see how well Hendrick did with his pass.

Dempsey

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

Let's not lose the run of ourselves here lads...

Fantastic result with last minute drama, but for the majority of the game we were crap - ye were all agreeing with Dunphy's Trap comparison at half time.

We started to play the game in the last 15/20 and JOS had a moment of pure magic, but that doesn't mean there's a lot to learn from this match.

The trap comparison would still be correct

Lord Trollington

Lord Trollington wrote: »

I seen umpteen positive passes on on a number of occasions but rather than attempt them we went back to keeper and punted it long.

Thats fairly obvious.

Thing is if we concede I can actually see us trying to play

This

Billy86

Fudge You wrote: »

But you were a negative person, like everyone else before we got a goal.

I was? I said all through that our defensive approach was the most likely to keep us in the game, and had said I was delighted that it was 0-0 at 30, 45 and 60 minutes.

RobertKK

https://twitter.com/DFB_Team_EN/status/522126069613490176

The official English twitter account of the German football team.

Mr.Prodston

After 3 sets of matches Ireland are 3 points ahead of world champions Germany having played Germany away from home

Wow. Go sportsteam!

Corholio

M!Ck^ wrote: »

No, what got us the result was playing the right players in the correct positions against a weakened German side in the last 20 mins. If only we had have set up with a bit more confindance in the first 70. A long range shot ended up getting the Germans the lead but if we actually went at them we could have won this game.

We also could have lost it a lot earlier. It's the modern cliche to say 'go at them' in football, but I would certainly reckon it fails a lot, lot more times than it succeeds. The fact is the successes are always highlighted. We could have held onto the ball tonight a good bit better but if we'd taken them on we'd have lost.

What got us the result was some late dogged scrambling. It certainly wasn't the positions, it was John O'Shea scoring from 6 yards that got the goal ffs! :pac:

crushproof

Ha, John O'Shea trending in Germany on Twitter!

By jaysus a great finish to the game, haven't cheered that much at an Irish goal in a long time. Ignoring the lads in the studio, no chance we could have taken ze Germans attacking from the go.

Kerrydude1981

Be some craic if they had Martin talking to the lads in the studio like they do with the managers on MNF

Boskowski

M!Ck^ wrote: »

No, what got us the result was playing the right players in the correct positions against a weakened German side in the last 20 mins. If only we had have set up with a bit more confindance in the first 70. A long range shot ended up getting the Germans the lead but if we actually went at them we could have won this game.

I don't know, maybe you could have, maybe you would have lost because we couldn't deal with the bus, but might have done better in more open space. Hard to say. Looking at how bad ye were for long stretches, even just in the mind, no confidence to demand a ball and make some space its hard to see that.

AllGunsBlazing

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

ye were all agreeing with Dunphy's Trap comparison at half time.

I didn't honestly understand that. Germany had plenty of ball but did **** all with it - even in the first half.

ctrl-alt-delete

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

Let's not lose the run of ourselves here lads...

Fantastic result with last minute drama, but for the majority of the game we were crap - ye were all agreeing with Dunphy's Trap comparison at half time.

We started to play the game in the last 15/20 and JOS had a moment of pure magic, but that doesn't mean there's a lot to learn from this match.

I think we can learn not to play McGeady out of position, other than that I'd agree.

I did a lot of moaning, I wasn't moaning about the system, I just think we can play that system better.

Fantastic result, I don't care now how we got it, it's done

Massive game next, can't wait.

mada999

Fudge You wrote: »

But you were a negative person, like everyone else before we got a goal.

most of us were negative because the players who started the game were negative...tbh

Corholio

Boskowski wrote: »

I don't know, maybe you could have, maybe you would have lost because we couldn't deal with the bus, but might have done better in more open space. Hard to say. Looking at how bad ye were for long stretches, even just in the mind, no confidence to demand a ball and make some space its hard to see that.

Ye were pretty bad for most of the match to be honest, considering ye were at home. Long range shot in the first half being the best chance and only about 2 proper chances for the rest of the match. 1 moment of not closing down was only reason Germany scored, I didn't think Ireland were under much relentless pressure at all to be honest, Germany just had lots of possession.

ColeTrain

We were outclassed but our spirit can not be questioned and for that alone we deserved the point. Germany didn't cut us open much either if we are being honest, so it was a disciplined performance. Great to nick the point like that.

Dunphy and company are embarrassing at this stage. That was a limited team out there playing away to the World Champions, we were always going to set up like that. Coleman, Gibson and McCarthy will improve that team if they start next time out.

mada999

Billy86 wrote: »

At this point in time, I genuinely reckon half the posters in this thread know more about modern football than Giles. Let's not forget he was happy with the starting lineup... because he thought it looked very attacking.

Eh did he not say he wasnt sure about the line up?!

Fudge You

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

Let's not lose the run of ourselves here lads...

Fantastic result with last minute drama, but for the majority of the game we were crap - ye were all agreeing with Dunphy's Trap comparison at half time.

We started to play the game in the last 15/20 and JOS had a moment of pure magic, but that doesn't mean there's a lot to learn from this match.

Agreed Kasier 100%.

Everyone is on the jolly now. But after Georgia and 91mins against Germany a lot of people on here were negative. And they never stopped abusing irish players.
This thread is a joke.

Sing when your winning!

hadepsx

Jesus some buzzkillers in here. Yes we were Shiite most of the match.but ended up getting a draw. Lots to be debated.
But still



Come on you boys in green ×5

LowOdour

Was Trap, or even Stan for that matter getting this much grief from the panel after the first 3 matches

Fowler87

Thought Hendrix was mighty when he came in

Fudge You

Dempsey wrote: »

The trap comparison would still be correct

Trap out!

Witcher

Kenjataimu

https://twitter.com/DFB_Team_EN/status/522126069613490176

niallo27

The heart is back in the team though. It was soul destroying watching them under trap near the end.

FutureGuy

Great attitude shown by MON. Went for it without being worried about losing 3/4-0 just to have the chance to get something.

Refreshing to grab a point at the death instead of p!ssing them away.

Moist Bread

This result had the added bonus of Dunphy making an ass out of himself. Brilliant

AllGunsBlazing

Fowler87 wrote: »

Thought Hendrix was mighty when he came in

Not afraid of the ball. We need more of that.

Fudge You

AllGunsBlazing wrote: »

I didn't honestly understand that. Germany had plenty of ball but did **** all with it - even in the first half.

Hit the bar, and kept Forde busy. Wouldnt say did fck all with it

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo

Called it in my op. :P

kryogen

So happy for Josh

Conas

Are tactics are like that of Donegal in the Gaelic Football, we played a blanket defence against the Germans and it worked.

Paully D

Who is this John O'Shea bloke and where did that finish come out of? :pac: Is he any relation to the John O'Shea I watch every week? :pac:

roanoke

Just to put it in perspective, Ireland finished the game with 4 Championship players and 4 Prem players who've had less than 150 mins each on the pitch this season.

Nib

:pac:

Lord Trollington

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo wrote: »

Called it in my op. :P

I was at that match in Japan. 12 years ago now. I was 17.

What a final 2/3 minutes. Absolute mayhem in the stands.

Boskowski

Corholio wrote: »

Ye were pretty bad for most of the match to be honest, considering ye were at home. Long range shot in the first half being the best chance and only about 2 proper chances for the rest of the match. 1 moment of not closing down was only reason Germany scored, I didn't think Ireland were under much relentless pressure at all to be honest, Germany just had lost of possession.

Well its hard to play a bus for anyone. I agree we weren't convincing but what typically happens is that you keep at it and eventually get your goal and thats what happened. Where we really went wrong was how we let you in towards the end trying to sit on that 1 nil , we opened the door for you. Thats should never have happened. How you can say were pretty bad for most of the match I don't understand. If were pretty bad for most of the match what does that make ye for most of the match?

Copper_pipe

I'm close to tears now

SantryRed

Dempsey wrote: »

The trap comparison would still be correct

The massive, massive, MASSIVE difference to Trap is O'Neill learned from the first 60 minutes and made changes. I still don't agree with some of the things he did but MON deserves a lot of credit.

AllGunsBlazing

Fudge You wrote: »

Hit the bar, and kept Forde busy. Wouldnt say did fck all with it

I don't think any of the saves Forde made were overly brilliant. Most were pretty straight forward. Germany lacked a killer pass for all the possession.

Fudge You

hadepsx wrote: »

Jesus some buzzkillers in here. Yes we were Shiite most of the match.but ended up getting a draw. Lots to be debated.
But still



Come on you boys in green ×5

Sing when you are winning, (or drawing)...
The abuse McGeady, Whelan, Ward, Wilson, Keane, Walters got all game was awful...
But now, no one has said how bad/awful/shte they were.

mada999

Proco Jr. wrote: »

https://twitter.com/DFB_Team_EN/status/522126069613490176

cant connect to that Germany twitter page.. must be getting hammered!

Shanotheslayer

Lol at some posters. Were we not allowed be negative at HT? Up until the last 5 minutes we were poison. We didn't deserve a point, but obviously we're gonna cheer if we win.

We drew, it's fantastic. That doesn't take away how bad the team was and how MON picked a bad line up.

We got lucky, we'll take it and march on.

Are we only allowed celebrate if we can't criticize the team? Cop on.

Mcgeady in the hole? Sh!te. Walters out right? Sh!te

McClean was our best player, defense did quite well. A long way to go, but it's advantage us in the group I would say.

Edit: Woopsie :pac:

Timmyctc

Just in from work. Caught the goal in the pub. Have they shown John o Shea's post match victory handjob from Angela Merkel?

briany

Germany were made to look somewhat more assured than they really are at this time because of an incredibly timid Irish performance that lasted 70 minutes. The group is looking pretty crazy at this point in time with Germany in 4th place and Ireland/Poland joint top. The Scots will be looking for, needing, a win against Ireland in November. There's no reason Ireland should be going to Glasgow with any fear or trying to hang on for a point. It's incredible what a bit of belief and a bit of urgency can do for you.

Lord Trollington

Boskowski wrote: »

Well its hard to play a bus for anyone. I agree we weren't convincing but what typically happens is that you keep at it and eventually get your goal and thats what happened. Where we really went wrong was how we let you in towards the end trying to sit on that 1 nil , we opened the door for you. Thats should never have happened. How you can say were pretty bad for most of the match I don't understand. If were pretty bad for most of the match what does that make ye for most of the match?

You're beginning to sicken my stones.

We're ranked 61st in the World. We had 4 players from the Championship and 4 premier league plaers who don't feature for thier clubs on at the end. I think yee have far far more problems than we have.

Taking points above onboard^^, I still believe that with a lot less of forde hoofing the ball forward we wouldn't have invited such undue pressure on ourselfs as we did. Germany looked lost as they did against Poland to carve open a defence. Its risk and reward, but when we actually attacked Germany they looked very vulnerable. Crucial tonight was the Poland and Scotland result.
To top off tonight I got John O Shea to score any time at 20\1

Scotland v Ireland is going to be unreal.

Kenjataimu

So full time, 1-1 to Ireland.

Shanotheslayer

Fudge You wrote: »

Sing when you are winning, (or drawing)...
The abuse McGeady, Whelan, Ward, Wilson, Keane, Walters got all game was awful...
But now, no one has said how bad/awful/shte they were.

I just did :pac: