Android 5.0 and Nexus announcement thread!

Mantis Toboggan

What advantage would the nexus player have over a chromecast?

Mayo Yid

Buddy Holly wrote: »

What advantage would the nexus player have over a chromecast?

More power, perfect for games like the Ouya

corkie

Being The Will Of Our Lord Duarte, The Nexus 7 2012 Will Receive The Holy Blessing Of Android 5.0 (Official)


I didn't think it would, but I probably hold off updating it until I hear reports from others.


Now the final specs for the nexus 9 are out! Will you be getting it or the nvidia shield tablet?

I will probably get the Nexus 9, 64 bit is the reason, I'm not worried about the lack of sdcard because BubbleUPnP allows me to access my media on my xperia z1 over wifi.

marcbrophy

I'm seeing lots of people round the web giving out about the pricing of the N6.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but there hasn't been official play store pricing revealed by Google yet?

If there has been, would someone mind linking it?

emo72

marcbrophy wrote: »

I'm seeing lots of people round the web giving out about the pricing of the N6.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but there hasn't been official play store pricing revealed by Google yet?

If there has been, would someone mind linking it?

i hope your right marc, but i doubt it.

slayerking

marcbrophy wrote: »

I'm seeing lots of people round the web giving out about the pricing of the N6.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but there hasn't been official play store pricing revealed by Google yet?

If there has been, would someone mind linking it?

Not revealed by Google no, but the official Motorola blog lists the price for playstore as $650

marcbrophy

slayerking wrote: »

Not revealed by Google no, but the official Motorola blog lists the price for playstore as $650

Holy shít! :eek:
I hope that's a gross typo, and they meant to press the 3 key instead of the 6 key

slayerking

I was pretty much dead set on grabbing the N6 when it got released, Its an awesome phone, but not a chance am I paying €650 for it.
They can (regretfully ) keep it.

marcbrophy

You can say that again!!
Add 50 quid and you can get 2 brand new N5's.
Madness if true

user2011

https://sites.google.com/a/pressatgoogle.com/android-10-15/nexus6

Even if it was in around the N5 price range I wouldn't be able to push myself to jump from N4 to N6. Took me long enough to get used to going from small dumb phone to the big smart N4.

As mentioned in thread too Google go $1 = €1

marcbrophy

user2011 wrote: »

https://sites.google.com/a/pressatgoogle.com/android-10-15/nexus6

Even if it was in around the N5 price range I wouldn't be able to push myself to jump from N4 to N6. Took me long enough to get used to going from small dumb phone to the big smart N4.

Oh dammit, I remember seeing that earlier on tonight now!
I must have successfully blocked it out after reading it :pac:

Ah for me the N5 is the right price and size. Plus, android 5 is coming soon for a new look and feel

wotzgoingon

user2011 wrote: »

As mentioned in thread too Google go $1 = €1

It's not just google alot of companys do that xbox, iphones(i think) and others.

listermint

Frankly I'm Surprised everyone is giving out about the price based on the specs. The specs put it out there ahead of any current android device on par with and surpassing the note 4 in some areas. You do not ever get that story of spec inside the stock android with cheap half price. I've had two nexus phones and while they were very good each had some form of hamper on some way or another be it camera battery life storage. That is why they were cheap due to the can't have it all.

This device baring it's large size it has everything else required and it looks like a device to last for a good number of years with the spec given.

If it was half the price it would have spec drawbacks that's the nature of hardware.

Icyseanfitz

The camera doesnt really seem all that amazing at 13mp tbh, pity about the price, was really hoping for google to do their norm here, 400-500 and i would have bought it

Discodog

I did wonder if I was doing the right thing by buying a new Nexus 5. Now I know that I did. The whole point of the Nexus has been to get a good phone for a good price. That means a compromise between specification & price. In normal everyday use will someone notice the difference between a 2.25 or 2.75 processor ? Phone manufacturers are running out of practical ideas.

wotzgoingon

Discodog wrote: »

In normal everyday use will someone notice the difference between a 2.25 or 2.75 processor ? Phone manufacturers are running out of practical ideas.

The processors are a lot different than just processor speed.

Discodog

wotzgoingon wrote: »

The processors are a lot different than just processor speed.

Unless you are gaming or using hd video what difference will the average phone user see ?
Will the difference be worth twice the price ?

beno619

Icyseanfitz wrote:

The camera doesnt really seem all that amazing at 13mp tbh, pity about the price, was really hoping for google to do their norm here, 400-500 and i would have bought it

Well it's not the megapixels count thats worrying, but the fact is probably the same sensor as the Moto X.

beno619

Discodog wrote:

I did wonder if I was doing the right thing by buying a new Nexus 5. Now I know that I did. The whole point of the Nexus has been to get a good phone for a good price. That means a compromise between specification & price. In normal everyday use will someone notice the difference between a 2.25 or 2.75 processor ? Phone manufacturers are running out of practical ideas.

While I understand your sentiment re the Nexus 5 the cpu question I'd difficult.

The S800 in the N5 is fast but power hungry in comparison to the S801 in most of this year's flagships and the S805 in the N6, if you have a qhd display you need S805 to push those pixels or else you'll end up with a device slower than the rest (LG G3).

Tom Cruises Left Nut

Well once I see the price of the Nexus 9 it will make my mind up between that and the nvidia shield

heebusjeebus

Looks like they are gonna be competing with the big boys.
Shame really as the Nexus were never bleeding edge but still fairly robust spec wise.
At least they will be easier through carriers this time.

Professey Chin

Im finding it amazing how many people think the Nexus program is for a good phone at a good price.
The Nexus program started as Googles idea to build a "superphone" in their own words. The Nexus 1 pissed over everything in terms of specs (besides internal memory) on release and it wasnt cheap at all. It was a developer phone setting the benchmark for the next year.

The Nexus S wasnt cheap. But I always found that a bit of a weird one with how it got released.
The Galaxy Nexus wasnt cheap.

The last 2 were heavily subsidised but at the same time they did cut corners compared to the cutting edge flagships being released at the same time (N5/G2 being a good example) and theyre amazing phones (Still love my old N4) but theyre not top of the line at all. Like the N7 their pure intention was a bigger market share for full google android with no 3rd party stores getting in the way and they worked.

Now newer manufacturer agreements for Play store certification mean they dont have to do this (and OEMs probably pushed for it too). The agreements put googles apps front and centre on the phone when you start it up. Combined with the more common flagship Google Play editions of phones and certified lower price devices like the One+1 and the Moto G they dont have any reason for pushing a cheap nexus. Now it can go back to a cutting edge pure stock phone for those that want one. Those that dont have countless options everywhere else but Google still get the same from it all.

Icyseanfitz

Professey Chin wrote: »

Im finding it amazing how many people think the Nexus program is for a good phone at a good price.
The Nexus program started as Googles idea to build a "superphone" in their own words. The Nexus 1 pissed over everything in terms of specs (besides internal memory) on release and it wasnt cheap at all. It was a developer phone setting the benchmark for the next year.

The Nexus S wasnt cheap. But I always found that a bit of a weird one with how it got released.
The Galaxy Nexus wasnt cheap.

The last 2 were heavily subsidised but at the same time they did cut corners compared to the cutting edge flagships being released at the same time (N5/G2 being a good example) and theyre amazing phones (Still love my old N4) but theyre not top of the line at all. Like the N7 their pure intention was a bigger market share for full google android with no 3rd party stores getting in the way and they worked.

Now newer manufacturer agreements for Play store certification mean they dont have to do this (and OEMs probably pushed for it too). The agreements put googles apps front and centre on the phone when you start it up. Combined with the more common flagship Google Play editions of phones and certified lower price devices like the One+1 and the Moto G they dont have any reason for pushing a cheap nexus. Now it can go back to a cutting edge pure stock phone for those that want one. Those that dont have countless options everywhere else but Google still get the same from it all.

thing is they have pretty much built their nexus fanbase around the 4, 5 and 7, so a reasonable price was expected from them, i cant see them doing well with the nexus 6 tbh the screen size will turn a lot of normal customers away (even ones that are looking for a big screen will go "ive never heard of nexus but look that samsung is a big phone but not that big, il go with that").
nexus was always a niche phone for enthusiasts and developers a lot of which i can see now turning to the likes of oneplus1

beardybrewer

OSI wrote: »

Pretty much everyone does. People always forget that advertised US prices don't include VAT/Sales tax. Convert to € and add 23% and you're not far off 1:1

Sales tax in the US is nothing like here. In California it's < 10%. In Nevada it used to be 0% because nobody wanted to live there.

Professey Chin

Icyseanfitz wrote: »

thing is they have pretty much built their nexus fanbase around the 4, 5 and 7, so a reasonable price was expected from them, i cant see them doing well with the nexus 6 tbh the screen size will turn a lot of normal customers away (even ones that are looking for a big screen will go "ive never heard of nexus but look that samsung is a big phone but not that big, il go with that").
nexus was always a niche phone for enthusiasts and developers a lot of which i can see now turning to the likes of oneplus1

And I doubt they care really. They made a play when OEMs were starting to look more at their own services and pushing google stuff to the side (S Voice, LG Voice etc). They dont have to care about that anymore. Theyre front and centre now so people can buy whatever android phone they want without any impact on them.

Strangely enough the new ads show that feeling quite well :pac:

Icyseanfitz

Professey Chin wrote: »

And I doubt they care really. They made a play when OEMs were starting to look more at their own services and pushing google stuff to the side (S Voice, LG Voice etc). They dont have to care about that anymore. Theyre front and centre now so people can buy whatever android phone they want without any impact on them.

why would they release these devices at all if they didnt care they want more money, like every other company in the world

Professey Chin

Icyseanfitz wrote: »

why would they release these devices at all if they didnt care they want more money, like every other company in the world

And selling heavily subsidised phones isnt gonna make them any. Their income will remain the same if not more since theyre selling phones at full price but still getting the same cut off apps and services no matter what android phone people buy.

Icyseanfitz

Professey Chin wrote: »

And selling heavily subsidised phones isnt gonna make them any. Their income will remain the same if not more since theyre selling phones at full price but still getting the same cut off apps and services no matter what android phone people buy.

to be fair even if they sold the 6 at 400 they would still make money, these phones cost nothing to make

justsomebloke

Truthfully I think the line for the oneplus one probably got a little bit bigger over night.

Telchak

Important to keep in mind that the Nexus program is first and foremost for a development phone, and a showcase of where they want Android going at that point in time.

They're the devices that the Android platform is developed on before spreading to third party devices, and Google needed something at the phablet size to develop for this ever increasingly popular form factor.

beno619

Professey Chin wrote: »

Im finding it amazing how many people think the Nexus program is for a good phone at a good price.
The Nexus program started as Googles idea to build a "superphone" in their own words. The Nexus 1 pissed over everything in terms of specs (besides internal memory) on release and it wasnt cheap at all. It was a developer phone setting the benchmark for the next year.

The Nexus S wasnt cheap. But I always found that a bit of a weird one with how it got released.
The Galaxy Nexus wasnt cheap.

The last 2 were heavily subsidised but at the same time they did cut corners compared to the cutting edge flagships being released at the same time (N5/G2 being a good example) and theyre amazing phones (Still love my old N4) but theyre not top of the line at all. Like the N7 their pure intention was a bigger market share for full google android with no 3rd party stores getting in the way and they worked.

Now newer manufacturer agreements for Play store certification mean they dont have to do this (and OEMs probably pushed for it too). The agreements put googles apps front and centre on the phone when you start it up. Combined with the more common flagship Google Play editions of phones and certified lower price devices like the One+1 and the Moto G they dont have any reason for pushing a cheap nexus. Now it can go back to a cutting edge pure stock phone for those that want one. Those that dont have countless options everywhere else but Google still get the same from it all.

In a nutshell.

Icyseanfitz wrote: »

why would they release these devices at all if they didnt care they want more money, like every other company in the world

Google make money from their services not selling hardware.

advertsfox

New multitasking looks excellent:

http://www.google.ie/nexus/new/videos/N5_Anim1_V08.webm

Icyseanfitz

i am not getting down on the n6 lads, i love the look of the phone/specs just wont be able to get one myself if its much over the €500 range

HellboundIRL

It'll be interesting to see the popularity of this phone, it seems the size has turned many fans off and the price has turned away even more. I can't see the average consumer being all that interested in it either but we will see I suppose.

I'd love to get it but €570 was my max, €650 is just too much (unless prices change for Europe).

Professey Chin

Icyseanfitz wrote: »

i am not getting down on the n6 lads, i love the look of the phone/specs just wont be able to get one myself if its much over the €500 range

GSMArena has the € price at 569 at the bottom of this
http://www.gsmarena.com/the_nexus_6_is_water_resistant_like_the_moto_x_2nd_generation-news-9945.php

Sonics2k

OK Google
Easy access to information and performing tasks
Even if your screen is off, you can say "OK Google" on devices with digital signal processing support such as Nexus 6 and Nexus 9
Talk to Google on the go to get quick answers, send a text, get directions and more.

This looks great, a really underrated feature of the original Moto X.

marcbrophy

HellboundIRL wrote: »

I'd love to get it but €570 was my max, €650 is just too much (unless prices change for Europe).

€569 was the price from that German leak yesterday.

You may be in luck, with a Euro to spare

_Puma_

N6 might be a bit on the pricey side. May go with the N5 at Christmas, seems it is still going to be supported.

What was more interesting for me was the Nexus Player. Was debating getting one of those Android set top boxes already, so this seems perfect. Getting rid of UPC at the end of the month so perfect timing.

Correct me if I'm wrong but Netflix and the likes are preloaded on the Nexus Player so you can use them from the off without Casting from a phone? Would have got a chromecast but unfortunately my current phone doesn't support Cast.

ThisRegard

When you say your phone doesn't support cast, do you mean screen casting ? It doesn't need to if you want to use Netflix and the likes.

_Puma_

I've a Lumia 920 and as far as I'm aware the Chromecast does not Support Windows Phone. Haven't tried before mind you. I do have a S2, could use that I suppose but the Nexus Player seems like a better solution.

Kintarō Hattori

Well chaps, when are we likely to see the Nexus Play appear in the PlayStore? At the moment I use a fairly crap Android set top box for Netflix and the likes so I'd be quite happy to pick this up.

_Puma_

Apparently preorders start tomorrow and hopefully that includes the Irish Play Store but wont hold my breath.

beardybrewer

beno619 wrote: »

Google make money from their services not selling hardware.

Yes, I agree. But that logic seems contrary to extracting extra euros up front for more internal storage. Nexus devices never bother with external storage which seems contrary to selling us loads of music, books, and apps.

My theory is it must be an agreement with the hardware partner.

ThisRegard

_Puma_ wrote: »

I've a Lumia 920 and as far as I'm aware the Chromecast does not Support Windows Phone. Haven't tried before mind you. I do have a S2, could use that I suppose but the Nexus Player seems like a better solution.

Ah, I thought you were on android.

Kintarō Hattori

Chaps I'm in two minds here and would appreciate some advice. All I really want to do is to watch Netflix on the TV so should I get a Chromecast or wait for the Nexus Player?

What else is it likely to offer that Chromecast doesn't already?

Amalgam

Kintarō Hattori wrote: »

Chaps I'm in two minds here and would appreciate some advice. All I really want to do is to watch Netflix on the TV so should I get a Chromecast or wait for the Nexus Player?

What else is it likely to offer that Chromecast doesn't already?

Chromecast isn't a big financial investment and it does what it says on the tin.

I was a sceptical buyer. I love mine now..

Great for showing phone content and YouTube. For some strange reason, my Chromecast streams YouTube better than my Nexus 5.

Spazdarn

Kintarō Hattori wrote: »

Chaps I'm in two minds here and would appreciate some advice. All I really want to do is to watch Netflix on the TV so should I get a Chromecast or wait for the Nexus Player?

What else is it likely to offer that Chromecast doesn't already?

My chromecast struggles to output 1080p videos. So I'd imagine the Nexus Player would handle that no problem

marcbrophy

I wonder if I could buy the Nexus Players' Gamepad for use on my minix neo x8-h?

EagererBeaver

Spazdarn wrote: »

My chromecast struggles to output 1080p videos. So I'd imagine the Nexus Player would handle that no problem

Presumably your wifi rather than Chromecast? I've no bother with it.

listermint

OSI wrote: »

Given my phone and Chromecast are both within 10 feet of a $300 N router, I doubt it's my WiFi

Price and Wireless Range dont make a router good tbh. Depends on the router and ultimately depends on who configured it....