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Cork GAA Discussion Thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,551 ✭✭✭SeaFields


    Cork look alot better hurlers. Our corner forward at 15 is after a pile of scoreable wides. Cheap goal to give away too. You'd have to see Cork coming through it though based on the first half


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 33,246 CMod ✭✭✭✭ShamoBuc


    3 mins in and cork have scored 2pts while Dublin miss a pen completely Turnbull really is causing havoc


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 33,246 CMod ✭✭✭✭ShamoBuc


    Downey sent off in 45min cork still 6 up


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,563 ✭✭✭The White Feather


    Sending off has really closed things up.

    Only 6 mins left and Cork only 4 up


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 33,246 CMod ✭✭✭✭ShamoBuc


    0-23 v 2-13



    Turnbull was simply unmarkable.

    Cork not reaching the heights they are capable of but hopefully that will come in the final!!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,563 ✭✭✭The White Feather


    Great win for the Minors

    Cork 0-23 Dublin 2-13

    Turnbull looks phenomenal as well as Connery


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,551 ✭✭✭SeaFields


    Nervous finish. Shouldn't have been as close. I thought Cork looked better hurlers throughout. Nevertheless, into the final and that's the main thing.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 33,246 CMod ✭✭✭✭ShamoBuc


    Down by a point at ht

    Hoggie doing the business but the other towards are seeing way too little ball and as such are struggling.
    Puckout strategy is coming under a bit pressure .
    Need to step it up a gear and take on their man more .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,563 ✭✭✭The White Feather


    If they go a few points ahead early, then it will turn into a dogfight. That will suit them as they are built to hold a lead.

    The problems arise if they are at full power and we are below par. Then it will get very dicey especially if we end up chasing the game late on. That would suit them and I think that's when their system is very good. It can really close out a game if the team is ahead. I still think it will be too hard to stop all the Cork forwards but that's assuming that they are all playing well!!

    The first half has gone as I feared. They are playing very well but we are below par.

    If they keep a few points up throughout the second half then they will win. We need to get ahead of them to make them doubt themselves.

    They put a huge effort into that first half but I see them getting tired though in the second half and there will be more space.For all their dominance they are only a point up.

    If we get a few more forwards scoring we will win.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,152 ✭✭✭DellyBelly


    Red card changed the game. Stupid be Cahillane and then Joyce making the mistake really switched the momentum


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,563 ✭✭✭The White Feather


    Of course I didn't allow for Cahalane and his kamikaze tackling so the game looks gone from us.

    We should just go for goals non top in the next 5 mins.

    7 points down


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 33,246 CMod ✭✭✭✭ShamoBuc


    Cork were getting on top when kamikaze Cahalane cost us our place in the final.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,719 ✭✭✭Seadin


    ShamoBuc wrote: »
    Cork were getting on top when kamikaze Cahalane cost us our place in the final.

    It may be the first decade ever that Cork may not won an AI.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,131 ✭✭✭Burial.


    Well lads. Lot of anger and disappointment around Croke park after that. Obviously a shame but it's been a huge year for Hurling all round. I've been vocally dismissive of Cahalane for donkies, even this year when he's raised his level but still looked as dodgty as ever for the majority of games. Clueless clueless behaviour. Waterford had the tactics spot on, middle line besides Hoggie were played out of the game.

    It'll stand to them though, very young team and so much more to come for the lads. They've been a credit to the county. Kingston, Rock and the rest of the lads have been phenomenal too, have to keep the bulk of those together for years to come.

    On another day we probably would be booking gaffs in Dublin for the final but we've a lot to be proud of and thankful for. The blood and bandage are most certainly back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 580 ✭✭✭HillFarmer


    Hard luck today lads in a tight game. Some great scores from your forwards under pressure, I think the game changed completely after the sending off. In a game as tight as this I hate it decided like that. I wouldn't have been pissed off in the ref gave Cahalane a warning for the high challenge.
    Kingston spoke very well after the game and comes across as a pure gentleman, who imo opinion has Cork back to top table.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭Amprodude


    HillFarmer wrote: »
    Hard luck today lads in a tight game. Some great scores from your forwards under pressure, I think the game changed completely after the sending off. In a game as tight as this I hate it decided like that. I wouldn't have been pissed off in the ref gave Cahalane a warning for the high challenge.
    Kingston spoke very well after the game and comes across as a pure gentleman, who imo opinion has Cork back to top table.


    We weren't good enough simple as. Same old failings at semi final stage going back to 2012. Not good enough manager needs to take responsibility. Cahalane is a calamity and cost us the game today. Waterford arent 11 points better than us. We made them look better than what they are.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,223 ✭✭✭Canyon86


    Tough break on cahalane as he was having a decent enough season

    Looks like Austin gleeson will be in trouble for the final


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 378 ✭✭nlrkjos


    The two Gleesons could be out bad loss for Waterford, Conor may just win an appeal but Austin is fecked, whatever about TDB's helmet pull being iffy, Gleeson's is just pure deliberate pity for such a youngfella, but he knows the rules.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,428 ✭✭✭Powerhouse


    Burial. wrote: »

    The blood and bandage are most certainly back.

    Really? The same thing happened in 2014 when a successful Munster championship was followed by a double-digit beating in the AI semi-final. In the following two years Cork went into freefall. And that was after the traditional "we'll be back" comments following the 2013 final defeat. There are no guarantees. It's back down to the bottom of the hill and start again. I am mindful too of Anthony Daly's comment in 2013 after Dublin lost the All-Ireland semi-final when he said that they were 70 minutes away from a final and it might take a lot to get back to that again. Maybe they are back, maybe not. But there's nothing certain about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,424 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    Ok today was a disaster, but we are Munster Champions and we can build from this. Its not like this is a team pushing on and ws on its last legs, its a very young team. It has a touch of 1998 about it where we got a pasting by Clare but future signs were coming.

    We still lack a player or too but we have come on leaps and bounds this year. We will get there just give this team chance. Its young full of potential and with our u17s and Minors looking strong the future us bright. You got to lose one to win one sometimes.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭irishfeen


    The Cork crowd was absolutely amazing today, half the county seemed to have been there. I was on the hill and the atmosphere between the two sets of fans was great - sending off was such a pity, changed everything!

    Traffic going up and coming down the M8/M7 was atrocious, almost at a standstill past the Red Cow this evening for about 2 hours.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,424 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    Powerhouse wrote: »
    Really? The same thing happened in 2014 when a successful Munster championship was followed by a double-digit beating in the AI semi-final. In the following two years Cork went into freefall. And that was after the traditional "we'll be back" comments following the 2013 final defeat. There are no guarantees. It's back down to the bottom of the hill and start again. I am mindful too of Anthony Daly's comment in 2013 after Dublin lost the All-Ireland semi-final when he said that they were 70 minutes away from a final and it might take a lot to get back to that again. Maybe they are back, maybe not. But there's nothing certain about it.

    Back in 2013 and 14 we were lucky and we had very few decent hurlers coming through. Totally different comparison. No guarantee but future looks much brighter this time


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭Amprodude


    Back in 2013 and 14 we were lucky and we had very few decent hurlers coming through. Totally different comparison. No guarantee but future looks much brighter this time

    Nothing guaranteed. I would fear we won't be there in the latter stages of championship next year when the Tipps Kilkennys, and Clares are back again.


  • Registered Users Posts: 404 ✭✭Innish_Rebel


    HillFarmer wrote: »
    Hard luck today lads in a tight game. Some great scores from your forwards under pressure, I think the game changed completely after the sending off. In a game as tight as this I hate it decided like that. I wouldn't have been pissed off in the ref gave Cahalane a warning for the high challenge.
    Kingston spoke very well after the game and comes across as a pure gentleman, who imo opinion has Cork back to top table.

    Fair enough comments but Cahalane's two yellows/red was stonewall. Lets be honest he made the decision easy for the ref with the 2nd especially. But both tackles were reckless.

    Feel sorry for the two Gleason's but to be fair Conor must take a long look at himself. About to win an All Ireland semi final, gets a belt (from Kingston I think) and hits Hoggy - right in front of the linesman??? Jeez must keep the head in that situation - point up at the scoreboard and ask your opponent the score or something like that - don't swing the hurley...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,277 ✭✭✭danganabu


    Fair enough comments but Cahalane's two yellows/red was stonewall. Lets be honest he made the decision easy for the ref with the 2nd especially. But both tackles were reckless.

    Feel sorry for the two Gleason's but to be fair Conor must take a long look at himself. About to win an All Ireland semi final, gets a belt (from Kingston I think) and hits Hoggy - right in front of the linesman??? Jeez must keep the head in that situation - point up at the scoreboard and ask your opponent the score or something like that - don't swing the hurley...

    Both Gleeson's were insanely stupid, there is absolutely no defending them, Austin's in particular has to be one of the most brainless acts on a hurling field ever, its akin to hearing that the Guards are doing a drink driving blitz the weekend and deciding to drive down to the pub and have 10 pints just to see if I can get away with it.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 160 ✭✭crottys lake


    danganabu wrote: »
    Both Gleeson's were insanely stupid, there is absolutely no defending them, Austin's in particular has to be one of the most brainless acts on a hurling field ever, its akin to hearing that the Guards are doing a drink driving blitz the weekend and deciding to drive down to the pub and have 10 pints just to see if I can get away with it.

    Spoken like a true Tipperary man....what a yawn.....can't help yourself..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,277 ✭✭✭danganabu


    Spoken like a true Tipperary man....what a yawn.....can't help yourself..

    What are you ****ein about? Which part do you disagree with??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 508 ✭✭✭purpleisafruit


    Conor Gleeson was a reactionary moment but by the letter of the law, striking an opponent is a sending off.
    As for Austin Gleeson, that was a red card all day based on everything we've seen this year. He should be banned but probably won't be.
    Hoggy had to be a case of mistaken identity. Cahalane was a silly tackle and definite red that swung the game hugely for Waterford.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,463 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    All we've heard in the leadup to this game was about de Burca and the helmet issues, you'd imagine the last thing a Waterford man would want to touch would be a Cork helmet given all the talk of it. Very foolish from Gleeson.

    Both Cahalane cards were brainless. 2nd one especially given that he was already booked and should've learned from the first yellow. Deserved red 100%.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,277 ✭✭✭danganabu


    marno21 wrote: »
    All we've heard in the leadup to this game was about de Burca and the helmet issues, you'd imagine the last thing a Waterford man would want to touch would be a Cork helmet given all the talk of it. Very foolish from Gleeson.

    Careful now or crotty will be on to you........or maybe you will be ok as you are not from Tipp :D


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 160 ✭✭crottys lake


    Conor Gleeson was a reactionary moment but by the letter of the law, striking an opponent is a sending off.
    As for Austin Gleeson, that was a red card all day based on everything we've seen this year. He should be banned but probably won't be.
    Hoggy had to be a case of mistaken identity. Cahalane was a silly tackle and definite red that swung the game hugely for Waterford.

    So Touhy should be banned to ??? That is not even double standards, treble.

    So you say Touhy ok but Aussie not ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 508 ✭✭✭purpleisafruit


    So Touhy should be banned to ??? That is not even double standards, treble.

    So you say Touhy ok but Aussie not ?
    I haven't seen the Touhy incident personally but if he's made a grab at the face mask and pulled it from the players head then yes he should have been banned. It's dangerous play and something that is explicit in the rules. There's no need to do it and it shows a petulance that is part of his game.
    Like a previous poster has said, in light of the De Búrca incident and Stephen Bennett's ban earlier in the year, the last thing any Waterford player should have been doing is going anywhere near an opponent's head.


  • Registered Users Posts: 649 ✭✭✭DuffleBag


    Sickened today lads. Was full sure we were going to win, and you'd have to say if a lot of fellas had turned up we probably would have. No doubt Waterford were the better team yesterday. We never got going. Joe Deane said it at half time that we were in third gear and that's what we were. Cadogan, lehane, Harnedy, Coleman just never got going. Brainless move by Cahalane swung it then and Joyce going for a walk with the ball instead of maybe offloading back to Nash. What could've been eh? Next year!

    As regards the final, you'd have to say it's Galway's to lose now. Especially with Waterford missing the 2 Gleesons. Very silly boys.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,152 ✭✭✭DellyBelly


    I think Joyce has gotten away with his mistake for the goal that really turned the game. We were 2 points up and he decides to carry the ball in our full back line and is easily dispossesed and they score a goal from it and go a point up and you could see the Waterford lads lift.

    You could see Nash and one other Cork lad (not sure who it was) turn to give him a bollicking . It really was stupid from him...i was surprised it wasn't analyzed on the Sunday game because for me it was then that we lost the game...


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,151 ✭✭✭letowski


    DellyBelly wrote: »
    I think Joyce has gotten away with his mistake for the goal that really turned the game. We were 2 points up and he decides to carry the ball in our full back line and is easily dispossesed and they score a goal from it and go a point up and you could see the Waterford lads lift.

    You could see Nash and one other Cork lad (not sure who it was) turn to give him a bollicking . It really was stupid from him...i was surprised it wasn't analyzed on the Sunday game because for me it was then that we lost the game...

    It really was a huge turning point. I think ye were about 3/4 up after hitting the last couple of points. Harendy, Horgan, Lehance and Cadogan had points around that period and Cork had all the momentum.

    Ye shot yourselves in the foot in all honesty.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,166 ✭✭✭zetecescort


    Thanks to players and management for their efforts this year. What looked very bleak at the beginning led to Croke Park by way of a Munster title and some thrilling hurling.

    have we issues? absolutely but we have also blooded a handful of young lads who will only improve. the job is just beginning but we are certainly going the right way.


  • Registered Users Posts: 177 ✭✭Dionysis


    Amprodude wrote: »
    HillFarmer wrote: »
    Hard luck today lads in a tight game. Some great scores from your forwards under pressure, I think the game changed completely after the sending off. In a game as tight as this I hate it decided like that. I wouldn't have been pissed off in the ref gave Cahalane a warning for the high challenge.
    Kingston spoke very well after the game and comes across as a pure gentleman, who imo opinion has Cork back to top table.


    We weren't good enough simple as. Same old failings at semi final stage going back to 2012. Not good enough manager needs to take responsibility. Cahalane is a calamity and cost us the game today. Waterford arent 11 points better than us. We made them look better than what they are.
    To be fair to Kingston, he has done wonders this year with that side. He has improved Cahalane no end, and Cahalane was doing the business up to the point that he got sent off. When he did go, Cork's structure at the back fell apart. Up to the sending off, I would've thought that Waterford were playing into ye're hands and ye would win it by a couple of points. But after the sending off, it was 5 v 5 in ye're defence and they have good forwards, who when playing on an even pegging can do damage.
    Irrespective of the result, Cork found five good players this year, and mores to the point, they'll be better next year as against the older lads who are as good as they are going to get. Add Turnbull and Connery to that next year along with one or two of those U-21s, and within two more years, there's an All-Ireland winning side there, irrespective of the opposition.


  • Registered Users Posts: 171 ✭✭Slieve Gullion


    Does thinkstoomuch1 post here on boards gaa forum anymore?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 33,246 CMod ✭✭✭✭ShamoBuc


    Does thinkstoomuch1 post here on boards gaa forum anymore?

    No.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,646 ✭✭✭washman3


    Does thinkstoomuch1 post here on boards gaa forum anymore?

    A big loss to the Limerick GAA thread too.
    Very knowledgeable fella.
    Where's he gone.?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,223 ✭✭✭Canyon86


    I reckon cork should bring Declan Dalton properly into the senior fold after his play for the under 21s

    Big strong man who can score at will


  • Registered Users Posts: 230 ✭✭Blue Magic


    There is so much to be hopeful for into future

    Dalton from U21s. O'Leary Hayes, Turnball, Brian Roche and Daire Connery from Minors all look like proper ballers too. Esp O'Leary-Hayes for me. An option for a proper full back long term.

    What I'm banking on is a Centre Back to come into our midst soon to match McInerney/Maher/De Burca/Rushe


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,268 ✭✭✭big_drive


    Blue Magic wrote: »
    There is so much to be hopeful for into future

    Dalton from U21s. O'Leary Hayes, Turnball, Brian Roche and Daire Connery from Minors all look like proper ballers too. Esp O'Leary-Hayes for me. An option for a proper full back long term.

    What I'm banking on is a Centre Back to come into our midst soon to match McInerney/Maher/De Burca/Rushe

    I've a few question marks about o Leary Hayes after last weekend. Looked quite uncomfortable when dragged around the place


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,044 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Yes O'Leary Hayes certainly had a tough day last weekend

    He will have his hands full in Jack Canning in the final as well

    Still I have good hopoes for him

    Dalton is a good player and certainly should be brought senior training. Lot to work on though as he wasn't that effected against Limerick where he failed to score from play

    Turnbulll is certianly one for the future as is Connery.

    Be great if they can get an all ireland medal on the 3rd


  • Registered Users Posts: 404 ✭✭Innish_Rebel


    big_drive wrote: »
    I've a few question marks about o Leary Hayes after last weekend. Looked quite uncomfortable when dragged around the place

    Yes but marking probably the best minor in the country - Sean Currie I think his name was. Scored 2-13 in previous game - a bit of a romp match but in the three previous games he scored 27 points to hold him to 3 points from play was fairly good return.

    What impressed me most was the balance of the team - a couple of real stars but everyone on the pitch I felt contributed.


  • Registered Users Posts: 417 ✭✭CORKDOUBLE


    What a pity we don't have THINKTOOMUCH on this forum his knowledge and passion for all gaa not just Cork was simply outstanding...I am certain that journalists checked this site to get info from him..it would be great if he came back again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,166 ✭✭✭zetecescort


    Ladies football 1/4 final v Galway tomorrow in Mullingar at 12:30, live on TG4

    1 MARTINA O'BRIEN CLONAKILTY

    2 EIMEAR MEANEY MOURNEABBEY

    3 ROISIN PHELAN AGHADA

    4 EMMA SPILLANE BANTRY BLUES

    5 MELISSA DUGGAN DOHENYS

    6 BRID STACK ST. MARY'S

    7 SHAUNA KELLY ARAGLEN DESMONDS BUÍ

    8 NIAMH COTTER BEARA

    9 JESSICA O'SHEA INCH ROVERS

    10 CIARA O'SULLIVAN MOURNEABBEY

    11 DOIREANN O'SULLIVAN MOURNEABBEY

    12 ANNIE WALSH INCH ROVERS

    13 EIMEAR SCALLY ÉIRE ÓG

    14 AINE O'SULLIVAN BEARA

    15 ORLA FINN KINSALE


    Camogie semifinal v Galway also tomorrow in Limerick at 7, live on RTE

    1. Aoife Murray

    2. Pamela Mackey

    3. Rena Buckley (Captain)

    4. Laura Treacy

    17. Meabh Cahalane

    6. Gemma O'Connor

    7. Chloe Sigerson

    8. Libby Coppinger

    9. Ashling Thompson

    10. Amy O'Connor

    11. Orla Cronin

    12. Orla Cotter

    13. Hannah Looney

    14. Niamh McCarthy

    15. Katrina Mackey


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 33,246 CMod ✭✭✭✭ShamoBuc


    Perfect, watch the first game....prem lge.....watch the second game.....motd, not a bad way to spend a Saturday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,166 ✭✭✭zetecescort


    Working half day tomorrow but will get to Limerick alright


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,571 ✭✭✭0byme75341jo28


    I know you'll see this question all over the place but what's the story with final tickets due to the minors' involvement? Do Cork get a decent allocation or just the usual? Would love to be there for the minor final, pity the season ticket won't cover it!


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