Cork GAA Discussion Thread

Canyon86

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

Agree most that but no way in team as tipp proved is Joyce a two no way Jose with all flying ducks world would have o Neill at full and no way Cahalane at five

They played there v tipp and we're brutally exposed


For kilkenny game Nash

O Sullivan he didn't play last year but tbh nothing wrong o Neill or mcdonmell imo
Full back Cahalane
Mcdonmell if not fit o Neill if not Burke

Cormac murphy Joyce or Ellis I'd go Joyce and lorchan

Walsh Kearney

Cooper harnedy lehane
Luke Anthony Spillane Alan cadogan

Paudie unlucky loose out like moylan

No way would start horgan needs wake up call large dose reality living off reputation

thanks for your comments,ttm

anthony spillane is a class act,

is patrick cronin on the panel this year??

thinkstoomuch1

Canyon86 wrote: »

thanks for your comments,ttm

anthony spillane is a class act,

is patrick cronin on the panel this year??

Yeah cronin is there not captain

Real good bonus me is cork have real competition

Even in every position there two men per place imo that viable options

Nash Mccarthy Collins news be

Corner backs o Neill Sullivan mcdonmell Burke

Full Joyce and Cahalane

Half backs

Murphy Ellis lorchan Barry
Joyce and o Connor possible


Midfield two Walsh possible Andy
Kearney ans o shea
Half forward
Lehane coughlan cooper harnedy kelleher maybe Lordan
John cronin should be added

Full forward

Luke moylan pebbles cronin Spillane cadogan horgan


Colm Spillane if injury free is on radar so could be full back option but I think cork now see him ball winner half forward

Some real competition and I'd have large panel league and yes all may not game but key is in training with two vying position you get real kilkenny style high octane intensity he'll for leather match day games in training

No place safe
Every player is judged on form

I'm happy so far season but league panel announcement be interesting


Spillane could be real bolter like cadogan last year all he needs is game

He's bullish aggressive hurler and he's confidence and real work horse

Mcgrath spoke highly Walsh work ethic
He's right stand alone quality Seanie said


He's kilkenny type but hurling worries me but showed improve last week so maybe could but I think clare midfield were not elite level last week still won lot ball


Up against hogan tony Kelly or woodcock he'll need sharp hurling so time will tell

Orizio

I'd guess a league panel similar to this:

A. Nash
P. Collins
D. McCarthy

S. O'Neill
S. McDonald
D. Cahalane
C. Joyce
M. Ellis
L. McLoughlin
C. O'Sullivan
K. Burke
C. Barry
C. Murphy
D. Roche

A. Walsh
D. Kearney
R. O'Shea
A. Walsh

C. Lehane
S. Harnedy
B. Cooper
L. O'Farrell
P. Horgan
P. O'Sullivan
S. Moylan
P. Kelleher
D. Lee
P. Cronin
A. Cadogan
C. McCarthy

30 in total.

CORKDOUBLE

Orizio wrote: »

I'd guess a league panel similar to this:

A. Nash
P. Collins
D. McCarthy

S. O'Neill
S. McDonald
D. Cahalane
C. Joyce
M. Ellis
L. McLoughlin
C. O'Sullivan
K. Burke
C. Barry
C. Murphy
D. Roche

A. Walsh
D. Kearney
R. O'Shea
A. Walsh

C. Lehane
S. Harnedy
B. Cooper
L. O'Farrell
P. Horgan
P. O'Sullivan
S. Moylan
P. Kelleher
D. Lee
P. Cronin
A. Cadogan
C. McCarthy

30 in total.

I think that you will be close with that panel .....i would have William Kearney instead of Daniel Roche..

Gary Neville

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

Sean if you had wish name five people for cork senior football management set up who be??

Strength conditions be separate

Mine be Cleary, English coach

Cahalane, James Mccarthy kissanne
Ed coughlan s and c

James and kissanne be there learn and be groomed main riles in time

We all agree that our management team is simply not good enough and it makes sense to look at the alternatives.

However, let's not forget that we have huge issues in appointing IC Managers at all levels in Cork. In the US Corporate World, if a board appoints a bad CEO/Manager then they are held accountable - we have made some terrible managerial appointments at senior and Underage yet, typically, no one is pointing the finger at the people responsible - there is one common denominater and we all know who that individual is.

IMO he should now just focus on the new stadium and pass on all other duties to others. He should certainly never again have a role in the appointment of IC Managers.


No thought goes into the selection of a selection committee - last time - we had 3 from the Executive and 3 delegates with Ryan having a casting vote. It was Ryan, Lane and Frank and effectively any 3 delegates who were prepared to go forward. Nothing against 4 of the 6 as they did their best but what did they know about the qualities necessary to select an IC Manager ? As for Frank and Bob - the less said the better.

We tried 3 ex players after Gerald resigned -Coughlan, JBM and Fenton and they came up with Denis Walsh - hardly brilliant. We had players on the committee as recommended by K Mulvey but Frank gerry-mandered that process.

It's very hard to come up with a good formula - Probably need a top Director of Hurling and Football and let these 2 give recommendations to the CB. I'd hope that Lane and Kennedy might improve the process.

Horse84

An acknowledgment of sorts that padraic Duffy thinks PUC is a white elephant

Duffy also acknowledged the arguments for rebuilding Páirc Uí Chaoimh and Casement Park are “disputable”.

He said Cork’s situation posed “a greater financial challenge, even with generous support from the government of €30m and Cork County Committee’s own investment of over €10m”.
http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/weve-too-many-unfilled-stadiums-admits-paraic-duffy-309345.html

zetecescort

Horse84 wrote: »

An acknowledgment of sorts that padraic Duffy thinks PUC is a white elephant

Duffy also acknowledged the arguments for rebuilding Páirc Uí Chaoimh and Casement Park are “disputable”.

He said Cork’s situation posed “a greater financial challenge, even with generous support from the government of €30m and Cork County Committee’s own investment of over €10m”.
http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/weve-too-many-unfilled-stadiums-admits-paraic-duffy-309345.html

hopefully it means that Croke Park will be watching the numbers closely.

sean mac

zetecescort wrote: »

hopefully it means that Croke Park will be watching the numbers closely.

Doubt ut unfortunately duffy is all mouth and zero substance when it comes to this sort of issue

thinkstoomuch1

Peter Kelleher injury doubt for Saturday night likely be out hurling

Cork double you have interest cork football
He still with football under twenty one team and that set up what I hear is flying
They have good tough challenge match lined up this weekend up the country
Nice game be fair imo ti have

namloc1980

Horse84 wrote: »

An acknowledgment of sorts that padraic Duffy thinks PUC is a white elephant

Duffy also acknowledged the arguments for rebuilding Páirc Uí Chaoimh and Casement Park are “disputable”.

He said Cork’s situation posed “a greater financial challenge, even with generous support from the government of €30m and Cork County Committee’s own investment of over €10m”.
http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/weve-too-many-unfilled-stadiums-admits-paraic-duffy-309345.html

So why aren't they questioning the need for this €70m spend? The GAA should review what it's stadium requirements actually are before allowing all these developments. Four 40k+ capacity stadiums in Munster alone is maddness.

CORKDOUBLE

Thanks TTM I always felt Kelleher could be a very good midfielder in football ....you said that he was played at full forward in the u21 football team interesting .....on the other hand JBM and Landers must see something serious in him for hurling ...hes a strong young fella something the hurlers could do with in the half forward line ...great fielding ability ....of course he was named on both Muskerry teams of the year 2014....do you think will he make the National Leauge panel for the hurlers ? The u21 footballers first I suppose.

thinkstoomuch1

CORKDOUBLE wrote: »

Thanks TTM I always felt Kelleher could be a very good midfielder in football ....you said that he was played at full forward in the u21 football team interesting .....on the other hand JBM and Landers must see something serious in him for hurling ...hes a strong young fella something the hurlers could do with in the half forward line ...great fielding ability ....of course he was named on both Muskerry teams of the year 2014....do you think will he make the National Leauge panel for the hurlers ? The u21 footballers first I suppose.

He could and donoughge could but cork under twenty one sure rather have them as there powerful players

Cork midfield is going be strong this year dara Murphy, Kiely, maguire, kelliher, loads options
One football team with junior have real chance glory like ucc but be fair ucc have kerry lads also that team great players

thinkstoomuch1

namloc1980 wrote: »

So why aren't they questioning the need for this €70m spend? The GAA should review what it's stadium requirements actually are before allowing all these developments. Four 40k+ capacity stadiums in Munster alone is maddness.

Sean is right all just talk from Duffy

Sure look he said frank be gone three year's ago and look still there

Duffy got he's own term extended recently
Imo just empty talk

CORKDOUBLE

You say Kiely for u21 midfield who is he ? Sean Kiely is overage for u21 this year ...his brother Cian plays mostly wing back...

thinkstoomuch1

CORKDOUBLE wrote: »

You say Kiely for u21 midfield who is he ? Sean Kiely is overage for u21 this year ...his brother Cian plays mostly wing back...

Cian will be wing back absolutely but could play midfield if needed as gem football
Sean over age yeah

Killan o Connor could if needed play there or centre forward

thinkstoomuch1

CORK V DUBLIN - ALLIANZ FOOTBALL LEAGUE OPENING NEXT SUN 1ST FEB 29/01/2015
Cork Senior Footballers play Dublin in the opening round of the Allianz Football League on Sunday.

Game: Cork v Dublin
Date: Sunday 1st February 2015 at 2:00 p.m.
Venue: Páirc Uí Rinn.
Referee: Rory Hickey (Clare).

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1. Ken O’Halloran, Bishopstown
2. Tomás Clancy, Fermoy
3. Tom Clancy, Clonakilty
4. James Loughrey, Mallow
5. Jamie O’Sullivan, Bishopstown
6. Eoin Cadogan, Douglas
7. Brian O’Driscoll, Tadhg MacCarthaigh
8. Fintan Goold, Macroom
9. Ian Maguire, St. Finbarr’s
10. Mark Collins, Castlehaven
11. Donnacha O’Connor, Ballydesmond
12. Colm O’Driscoll, Tadhg MacCarthaigh
13. Colm O’Neill, Ballyclough
14. Donal Óg Hodnett, O’Donovan Rossa
15. Brian Hurley, Castlehaven
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17. Conor Dorman, Bishopstown
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22. Luke Connolly, Nemo Rangers
23. John Hayes, Carbery Rangers
24. John O’Rourke, Carbery Rangers
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thinkstoomuch1

Another selection out of the blue


The team mostly individual are fine but played out position



Full back line imo has three half back playing full back line

Two Clancy and loughrey all attacking players like move forward buy can't man mark tight

What is obsession half backs corner
Christ above make look good players poor

Half back line

Sullivan too attack minded and will bomb forward too much as those cadogan who will rin ball in to contact

Brian o driscoll brilliant player best kick passer in set up for fifty yards he can create score move in to space spatial awareness

He's fine but who holds centre??


Midfield great see maguire there he'll be fine absolutely
Gould I'd the worry
Bit thankfully no cussen

Half forward line
Colm o driscoll play sweeper but he's poor imo and again john o rourke ten times player he is should start ahead him

Collins fine should play quatre back role link attack to defence
Donnacha is fine in he can change pace game speed up ot slow down has compusre and leadership and experience to do this role and hold play up when needed

Fill forward line is good hurley and o Neill two brilliant inside forward with ball

Hodnet good player but id start him think he could play deepened role helping midfield he can play there with club

Hope he's not player inside full forward as cork don't need three inside in cluster space


Subs

Huge worry


Three half backs with no corner back
Dorman is seen as full back again it's unbelievable lad cleaned out under twenty one last year but ucc proved half back

Hazel shouldn't be there
O Donoghue isn't a full back
Midfield cussen only sub midfield
Barry o driscoll and Kevin and Hayes are not up level as probed time again


Luke Connolly fine player ucc but said many times not inter county

But he's selection out blue imo haa been okay ucc hardly beat cork have
Kerrigan good sub but just back training

Selection okay individuals wise most I rate but positions lack balance aera worry

sean mac

Colm o driscoll over john o rourke sums up this management for me,why no mention of michael shields?

thinkstoomuch1

sean mac wrote: »

Colm o driscoll over john o rourke sums up this management for me,why no mention of michael shields?

I was thinking same myself

Paper said certain starter Tuesday

Looks like dan maceoib dropped

Joke if true

Even score had him or one paper one watch
He's bright talent cork forward wise

Begs belief over Hayes Kevin colm Barry o driscoll over mac eoin

Alan Stephen cronin corner back should be there

This is better though but subs and team huge worries can't see it win as if do cork starting fifteen have do it

Cu Baire

That's a good team to counteract Dublin's strengths.
Should be a very interesting game with Cork to shade it by 2 points.

sean mac

3 converted wing backs in the full back line with 3 more wing backs as subs,2full backs in the half back line-lack of balance

thinkstoomuch1

sean mac wrote: »

3 converted wing backs in the full back line with 3 more wing backs as subs,2full backs in the half back line-lack of balance

Add in midfielder subs that struggled I'm under twenty one challenge Sunday v dara Murphy and killan o Connor so no game changer

Hayes Barry o driscoll have got too many chances
What do you make mac eoin dropped of panel

thinkstoomuch1

http://www.eveningecho.ie/sport/2015/01/29/shields-misses-out-on-league-opener/

Good read

I think shields if injured fair point but played Sunday challenge

Cussen had injury v tipp played so again begs questions like said then shouldn't started v tipp

I fear picking on mayo game last year when that moral victory will haunt us we outplayed by mayo

Colm o driscoll was poor that game yet picked
I

CORKDOUBLE

I agree huge worrys about player positions again ....looking at the team/Panel we do have the players but NO management to bring them along ....No Dan McEoin what a disgrace can you imagne what Fitzmaurice would get out of him....no Michael Sheilds, no Noel Galvin,Goulding is only coming back likewise Paddy Kelly...Kevin Crowley and Cathal Vaughan are still injured which must be a big worry for Sean Hayes and the u21s.....No Sean Kiely either......full back line and midfield big worrys ....young MaGuire huge talent but we have to be patient with him...Fintan to be fair will win huge ball but is not feared by opposition...I still have great time for him he gives his all...

thinkstoomuch1

CORKDOUBLE wrote: »

I agree huge worrys about player positions again ....looking at the team/Panel we do have the players but NO management to bring them along ....No Dan McEoin what a disgrace can you imagne what Fitzmaurice would get out of him....no Michael Sheilds, no Noel Galvin,Goulding is only coming back likewise Paddy Kelly...Kevin Crowley and Cathal Vaughan are still injured which must be a big worry for Sean Hayes and the u21s.....No Sean Kiely either......full back line and midfield big worrys ....young MaGuire huge talent but we have to be patient with him...Fintan to be fair will win huge ball but is not feared by opposition...I still have great time for him he gives his all...

Galvin injured as shields being recovery

Problem was lacking cover ist place two vital position


I agree gould gives all but look we can't do sentiment this is elite elite sport
This is not the voice of Ireland where we can say we shed few tears go away learn reaudition next year or celebrity TV show

This is about winning all Ireland
Yes it blunt reality and it's harsh course it is but does cody or kerry do emotions, no they don't
We must aspire those ethos winning

thinkstoomuch1

If that team was switched changed slightly could win

My team
Halloron simply reason go with him yes kick out poor but hsnahran wont make blind bit difference in he no midfield aim at
Halloron imo better shot stopper
He's devid confidence I agree but dropping him not answer give a midfield

Galvin injury means we have problems here and the failure to have cronin in panel shows lack depth natural corner backs we have

Stephen cronin or Alan cronin be ideal here

Shields
Sullivan as options limited
Cadogan
Loughrey
O donoughge Clancy

O donoughge strength, hunger, bullish nature and dogmatic style would thrive in blanket at centre back in a buffer role as he stop runners coming through from midfield and unlikely cadogan and Sullivan won't actually bomb forward from centre back but he hols the middle all times and allow like loughrey Clancy to do attacking when needed

He wouldn't be exposed for pace as cork would have a blanket defender with o driscoll and o rourke and Collins having pace and endurance to cover ground

Midfield I tear hear out my head when look at options we have been left with it with no dinnen no laoire etc

Maguire I'd start but he needs experience so you can't start Kiely with him as that be unfair them like be starting marmion and jj hahahran start v France or England in rubgy without any real experience and despite huge potential a baptism fire imo
I'm actually lost looking around viable midfield candidates on panel

Gould no way as I guarantee anyone he'll perform few good games league,problem is you can't be sure which ones but he may well do job v Dublin but I'n championship he will fail as he always does in big game to match elite opponents

Cussen I'm sorry but no thanks
I'd put o rourke here in its far from ideal but he played under age here and he ll close opposition kick outs fight like a dog, fast and can kick pass and is Roy Keane box to box type midfielder so he imo best option

Half forward
Another shambles here as paddy Kelly is not available for the big game like kerrigan who is jusr back so options are limited as no way I'd have Kevin, colm or Barry o driscoll or George durrant or Desmond put together never mind individual any where near team aims win all Ireland

Brian o driscoll I'd have fresh after lasting just twenty minutes yesterday played role for ucc
He plays half back so he can defend, he's awesome kick passer imo nest half back kicker ball anything up to fifty five yards in cork, can score long distance, can create, some engine, and will be Brian dooher, Geraldine flynn, the Mcbreaty type player and will track back all day long but he's natural instinct to counter attacking at pace and can see spatial awareness but movement in to space is actually brilliant

Collins has start, creative, fast, strong and can drop deep in sweeper quatre back counter attacking style
I'd have Donal Hodnet here, athletic, big strong fast and rotate with o rourke if needs be
He can kick a score, good football brain and is not afraid to take on people

Brian Hurley
Colm
Donnacha but donnacha drops deep as the pace maker so speak, the timer in cork, he dictates pace accordingly and fill void Collins when needed
Collins will be dropping deep in my blanket but doc has the football brain and instinct, leadership and experience imo, compusre, strength mind and body to know when to speed up play with fast diagonal ball in to lethal Brian and colm who will score with ball, or when the slow ball down, keep possession, build patiently, kill game tempo when needed and game manage as Dublin love a pace to the game so imo balances approach only way ti beat Dublin

This team I picked is based on most position picking guys in position suit their strengths rather than cuthbhert and co philosophy expose their weakness
It has warriors, youth, energy, dogmatic footballer, arrogant confident forwards, leaders in shields, cadogan, Clancy, loughrey, doc and colm with youth driscoll, o rourke, hurley and Maguire and imo this is a potent mix that would beat dubs but at the very least give them a game once they played the right system

Imo unfortunately this team won't start in those position or will we get the blanket system in imo blanket is not just defend defend, but actually counter attacking game but Cuthbert style will be defend defend defend backs to the wall style

Looking at individual picked I have bit hope but I can't see them being changed position sense
However I'm hoping that he picks these lads in right place cork could win if right team was picked


Problem is though Subs no midfielder changer In likely put Collins back there of needs be or cussen
McCauley and conaghaile are just formidable and Maguire should be okay but gould worry
At ucc maguire haa brilliant Sullivan kerry with him


Not one man markers in subs defender

He's imo gone from ballincollig panic pick over won county to now ucc five on panel
Credo due dropping other collig lads bar exception but ucc lads all bar Connolly deserves be there but people must bear in mind bar maguire and driscoll all rest ucc lads played out position here compared Morgan team

Problem with o driscoll I'd in ucc has lad Clancy hold centre well where cadogan will bomb forward while he has dorman in line but here has inferior Sullivan

thinkstoomuch1

http://www.gaa.ie/gaa-news-and-videos/daily-news/1/2701151550-allianz-football-league-div-1-preview-cork/

Good read and at last confirmed Flanagan is strength conditions coach only
Hallelujah

Doesn't say who coach is but that's cuthbhert any one knows that

Key points hr makes cadogan seen as answer to centre back

I said this last year and I'll say again
People in cork media some here advocated shields or cadogan be moved half back but why do you solve one problem if creates another one

There focused on half back so full is forgotten
One step forward ten back


Clancy seen by Morgan as leader centre back and captain ucc he's brilliant v cit

Why cork play him full back


Yes could give hope change game but last year Clancy played full back line under management


Guys instinct is attack so mot focus to stay do unselfish role man marking
He's fine centre as he can sweep and holds centre well but knows when counter


With o donoughge has buffer holding centre cork would be awesmoric sensation as unit with loughrey and Clancy and bod dropping back





Dublin if start mcbrnmon take he pick he'll destroy loughrey or Clancy one v one

Saving grace is not croke park open wide ptich

Sweeper can only work if right players best position

zetecescort

Thursday January 29th

Fitzgibbon Cup Group A Round 1

DCU v CIT, 2pm at DCU

Fitzgibbon Cup Group B Round 1

UCC v GMIT, 2pm at the Mardyke

thinkstoomuch1

http://www.the42.ie/cork-brian-cuthbert-panel-1285663-Jan2014/

Last year named thirty league

I presume that's it this year also

So twenty six named Sunday plus four of Galvin shields and Kelly Goulding



Twenty three last year if so and obviously two dual players gone and dinnen declined play
You could say Sullivan walked off also
Deane injures
So around two new faces approximately last year


I think last year showed in depth corner back was problem as was midfield

Looking at this panel I'll say now nothing much been learned


Few being carried like three driscoll and Hayes


Dan McEoin under twenty one ti watch yet seems of so dropped

Crowley and Vaughan injures fair enough

The thirty named last year has thirty but under twenty ones dorman Vaughan crowley and bod all featured league



Are doing under twenty one panel again??

Maguire didn't feature league but championship


Crowley will be added im when fit
White maybe extended panel

Cadogan gone hurling


If I'm right thirty panel is as above huge worries


Good news hopefully is in sense durrant Desmond Hodnett dropped but begs questions why we're even added ist place total wild card selections


Hazel solid club player nothing again lad but struggled make ucc team under Morgan such played mcgrath cup v ul taken off after twenty minutes last year or so


He's never as I thin player minor under twenty one cork

He okay championship club but nor stand out at all wasn't even consider cork club team year


Played v Mary I yes was very good
But look Mary I

Tipp was only okay
Then makes league panel
Cork have wealth half backs better him

They need corner backs like cronin boys Stephen Alan or even colm tucker o brien could do a job

Cu Baire

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

Some great news I belive on the way for cork gaa in the next week great great news.

Must have missed this. Anyone know what the big news was?

wackokid

Cu Baire wrote: »

Must have missed this. Anyone know what the big news was?

Could be some lad has come out and said he's 'going straight' so it didn't get the usual headlines.......???

thinkstoomuch1

wackokid wrote: »

Could be some lad has come out and said he's 'going straight' so it didn't get the usual headlines.......???

All credit due if some lad did do that

Cork needs more people like Valerie Mulcahy and cusacks etc in that regards
What you make team wackokid

sean mac

26 plus goulding,shields,galvin,kelly and he said when fit crowley,deane and vaughan plus still looking at a few 21s is dan naceoin still 21.Good interview on redfm with lisa lawlor and cuthbert.
Worryingly he saud all our defenders could play any positiin still fails to understand the importance of full backs.Cant understand how hazel and kevin o driscoll are on the panel,we are overflowing with far far better half backs

thinkstoomuch1

sean mac wrote: »

26 plus goulding,shields,galvin,kelly and he said when fit crowley,deane and vaughan plus still looking at a few 21s is dan naceoin still 21.Good interview on redfm with lisa lawlor and cuthbert.
Worryingly he saud all our defenders could play any positiin still fails to understand the importance of full backs.Cant understand how hazel and kevin o driscoll are on the panel,we are overflowing with far far better half backs

Sean your assement is articulate as always

Any chance you post link please that interview

Lawlor is brilliant journalists



Dan over age

So he's dropped seems

All those injured deserve be panel

Deane is help midfield but again let's not forget appalling treatment him last year origin panel named he didn't make cut it took cork man tralee it put piece together him get him on label


Then course played v westkearh outshone Sullivan yet Sullivan started next games

Yet deane unlike Sullivan never luxury start with Walsh

So being panel means nothing some players as maxeoin, dinnen leary cronin all proved if he doesn't take their game won't get many chance but likes Hayes threw driscoll cussen gould be harder imo get off cork set up at times

Balance panel is imo off in lack of corner backs midfield


Deane won't get many chances imo

Cussen and gould will get more

wackokid

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

All credit due if some lad did do that

Cork needs more people like Valerie Mulcahy and cusacks etc in that regards
What you make team wackokid

I'll plead the 5th on that credit due thing and I'll answer the second part about 7pm on Sunday evening.
I have to say I'm disappointed that there's no mention of Dan McEoin and Rory Deane in that explanatory piece at the bottom of listing team and subs. If they are nursing injuries they would have merited a mention along with Goulding and Kelly. Strange.......very very strange but not surprising.

thinkstoomuch1

Lads what ye make dropping mac eoin if true?????

Sean what you make naceoin, do you rate him

Out under twenty one team last year the guys named all have made cut bar cadogan who went hurling, sugrue never got chance, and Dan who got half game half yet seems discarded


Dorman, vaughan, bod, crowley, maguire are all on panel or when will be


Talent there needs just be coached

Cu Baire

Good to see Cork hurlers continue to give new players game time in WCC final on Saturday.
Great experience on the bench if they need it.

Should be good prep for both teams before the league.

thinkstoomuch1

CORK V LIMERICK - WATERFORD CRYSTAL CUP SENIOR HURLING FINAL 29/01/2015

Waterford Crystal Cup Senior Hurling Final
Cork Senior Hurlers play Limerick in the Final of the Waterford Crystal Hurling Cup Saturday 31st January in Mallow at 7:00 p.m.
Fixture: Cork v Limerick

Competition: Waterford Crystal Cup

Venue: Carrigoon, Mallow.

Date: Saturday 31st January at 7:00 p.m.

Referee: Johnny Ryan (Tipperary).

ET if necessary (2 x 10 mins).
We'll have live updates from the game here on the website and on our Twitter page, @OfficialCorkGAA.

The Cork Senior Hurling team to play Limerick lines out as follows -
1. Patrick Collins (Ballinhassig)
2. William Kearney (Sarsfields)
3. Damien Cahalane (St.Finbarr’s)
4. Sean O’Donoghue (Inniscarra)

5. Brian O’Sullivan (Fermoy)
6. Lorcán McLoughlin (Kanturk)
7. Glen O’Connor (St. Finbarr’s)

8. Paul Haughney (Midleton)
9. Andy Walsh (Killeagh)

10. Brian Murray (Bishopstown)
11. Cian McCarthy (Sarsfields)
12. Brian Lawton (Castlemartyr)

13. Stephen Moylan (Douglas)
14. Luke O’Farrell (Midleton)
15. Darren McCarthy (Ballymartle)

Subs:
16. Anthony Nash (Kanturk)
17. Conor O’Sullivan (Sarsfields)
18. Christopher Joyce (Na Piarsaigh)
19. Mark Ellis (Millstreet)
20. Patrick Cronin (Bishopstown)
21. Dayne Lee (Na Piarsaigh)
22. Peter Kelleher (Kilmichael)
23. Alan Frahill-O’Connor (Youghal)
24. Anthony Spillane (Castlelyons)
25. Paudie O’Sullivan (Cloyne)
26. Patrick Horgan (Glen Rovers)

Stephen McDonnell remains on the injured list, is progressing well and is expected to be back in action in coming weeks. Both the CIT and UCC players are unavailable for Cork panel selection as they are tied to their respective academies for this competition.
Manager: Jimmy Barry-Murphy
Selectors: Mark Landers (Coach), Seanie McGrath, Johnny Crowley.



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Depend limerick team but cork team is okay but half forward line is weakest cork could have

Murray been awful so far taken off last week didn't do it past in the competition

Lawton another chance again chance after chance

Wayne mac will destroy him and Wayne limited enough

Lee or frahill Connor be better

Anthony spillane should started he could play here and everything others are not great player

Haughney chance now hope browne starts and not Allis limerick

Morrissey won't fear Murray

Dodge too much for cian in limit each oither but dodge won't have pace for cian vice versa
Dodge terrific hurler but imo no pace centre back
Cian terrific hurler lacks mobility in summer

Walsh deserves chance midfield

Cork Sullivan should have enough for niall moran tj huge favourite of him
Lynch could Glenn trouble but test pace I want

That full back line if breen moran and Morrissey starts cause cork problems in Kearney is weak on turn

I hope Dowling starts and Begley doesn't

Want test Cahalane

Begley just club hurler

Cork have strong bench and will have to use it to win imo
Hopefully limerick will go win it pick strong team

Cork team starts is beatable so must change things

You would think limerick will go for win as only thing realistic wise have chance win bar of course few moral victory along way this year imo

Mehapoy

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

CORK V LIMERICK - WATERFORD CRYSTAL CUP SENIOR HURLING FINAL 29/01/2015

Waterford Crystal Cup Senior Hurling Final
Cork Senior Hurlers play Limerick in the Final of the Waterford Crystal Hurling Cup Saturday 31st January in Mallow at 7:00 p.m.
Fixture: Cork v Limerick

Competition: Waterford Crystal Cup

Venue: Carrigoon, Mallow.

Date: Saturday 31st January at 7:00 p.m.

Referee: Johnny Ryan (Tipperary).

ET if necessary (2 x 10 mins).
We'll have live updates from the game here on the website and on our Twitter page, @OfficialCorkGAA.

The Cork Senior Hurling team to play Limerick lines out as follows -
1. Patrick Collins (Ballinhassig)
2. William Kearney (Sarsfields)
3. Damien Cahalane (St.Finbarr’s)
4. Sean O’Donoghue (Inniscarra)

5. Brian O’Sullivan (Fermoy)
6. Lorcán McLoughlin (Kanturk)
7. Glen O’Connor (St. Finbarr’s)

8. Paul Haughney (Midleton)
9. Andy Walsh (Killeagh)

10. Brian Murray (Bishopstown)
11. Cian McCarthy (Sarsfields)
12. Brian Lawton (Castlemartyr)

13. Stephen Moylan (Douglas)
14. Luke O’Farrell (Midleton)
15. Darren McCarthy (Ballymartle)

Subs:
16. Anthony Nash (Kanturk)
17. Conor O’Sullivan (Sarsfields)
18. Christopher Joyce (Na Piarsaigh)
19. Mark Ellis (Millstreet)
20. Patrick Cronin (Bishopstown)
21. Dayne Lee (Na Piarsaigh)
22. Peter Kelleher (Kilmichael)
23. Alan Frahill-O’Connor (Youghal)
24. Anthony Spillane (Castlelyons)
25. Paudie O’Sullivan (Cloyne)
26. Patrick Horgan (Glen Rovers)

Stephen McDonnell remains on the injured list, is progressing well and is expected to be back in action in coming weeks. Both the CIT and UCC players are unavailable for Cork panel selection as they are tied to their respective academies for this competition.
Manager: Jimmy Barry-Murphy
Selectors: Mark Landers (Coach), Seanie McGrath, Johnny Crowley.



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Depend limerick team but cork team is okay but half forward line is weakest cork could have

Murray been awful so far taken off last week didn't do it past in the competition

Lawton another chance again chance after chance

Wayne mac will destroy him and Wayne limited enough

Lee or frahill Connor be better

Anthony spillane should started he could play here and everything others are not great player

Haughney chance now hope browne starts and not Allis limerick

Morrissey won't fear Murray

Dodge too much for cian in limit each oither but dodge won't have pace for cian vice versa
Dodge terrific hurler but imo no pace centre back
Cian terrific hurler lacks mobility in summer

Walsh deserves chance midfield

Cork Sullivan should have enough for niall moran tj huge favourite of him
Lynch could Glenn trouble but test pace I want

That full back line if breen moran and Morrissey starts cause cork problems in Kearney is weak on turn

I hope Dowling starts and Begley doesn't

Want test Cahalane

Begley just club hurler

Cork have strong bench and will have to use it to win imo
Hopefully limerick will go win it pick strong team

Cork team starts is beatable so must change things

You would think limerick will go for win as only thing realistic wise have chance win bar of course few moral victory along way this year imo

Hahaha, if you're trying to wind up the limerickians on the board you'll have to do better than that!

thinkstoomuch1

Mehapoy wrote: »

Hahaha, if you're trying to wind up the limerickians on the board you'll have to do better than that!

Look you one tried influence limerick thread ignore me other day just cause said views you didn't want hear limerick thread
Now you come In here when give view cork thread in cork thread
Add something debate if you can
I said views cork thread as cork playing limerick if was trying wind up I'd posted limerick thread
Sorry now but just cause you don't like my view well that's your end with respect
Put me on ignore you don't like my view
I won't loose any sleep over it
Thanks
I dint try wind anyone up
I have my views simple as
But you're right some do like wind up others

thinkstoomuch1

Cork team being picked on mayo game last year with eleven starters

I looked statistic from excellent don't foul site

Few stand out

Istly mayo dominated possession with 50 possession
Cork had thirty four

Mayo from fifty had 39 shots over fifty per cent success cork better forwards less possession had 28 from thirty four so had over sixty per cent successful
Sheer volume mayo attacks meant had more score despite imo just one forward would wall on cork team

Turnover was crucial cork had lost possession thirty times and mayo had converted them to 21 shots so seventy per cent rate cork forced mayo twenty six turnovers has fourteen shots and twenty six per cent ratio shots

Cork won twenty five own kick-outs so that was seventy six per cent
Mayo won just eight cork kick outs so twenty four per cent

Crucial is mayo allowed cork won ball own kick out in their own half close goal didn't contest so they had blanket back from half way so cork attacks had build up slowly so mayo were ready and waiting
Cork were so predictable


When cork tried inject pace and go long couldn't

Mayo turned cork over nine times in their sixty five got one five
What will Dublin do??!!

Mayo went long won 77 per cent their own kick-outs only went short three times

Cork won fifty six kick outs beyond forty five but mayo had seventy four per cent


The key here was mayo dominated magior possession high up field areas but cork only got possession by going shorty suited mayo
Dublin destroy cork midfield last April and cork midfield has it improved???

Maguire will no doubt improve it but conaghaile and McCauley are just awesome
Dublin have subs bring on
Who cork bring on if needed


I have no doubt cork could bear Dublin scoring wise six forwards we have most score and some awesome but problem like mayo game imo be cork won't have possession to score and Dublin will have more possession but unlike mayo have forwards punish cork
And Dublin blanket to ab extent will allow cork poession from kick outs but their high pressure cork huge problems

thinkstoomuch1

http://www.the42.ie/ucc-ul-fitzgibbon-cup-1910122-Jan2015/
Great see cadogan lehane getting goals

All cork forwards this year getting goals good sign

Murphy must be injured hopefully will not be too serious
Cit won also good for cork hurling

sean mac

http://t.co/168HJgu8az Cuthbert interview on red fm

Canyon86

anybody fancy rochestown to beat ard scoil on the 31st lads?

be good to see a cork school still in the loop

solwhit12

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

CORK V DUBLIN - ALLIANZ FOOTBALL LEAGUE OPENING NEXT SUN 1ST FEB 29/01/2015
Cork Senior Footballers play Dublin in the opening round of the Allianz Football League on Sunday.

Game: Cork v Dublin
Date: Sunday 1st February 2015 at 2:00 p.m.
Venue: Páirc Uí Rinn.
Referee: Rory Hickey (Clare).

We'll have live updates from the game here on the website and on our Twitter page, @OfficialCorkGAA.

The Cork Senior Football Team to play Dublin on Sunday lines out as follows:
1. Ken O’Halloran, Bishopstown
2. Tomás Clancy, Fermoy
3. Tom Clancy, Clonakilty
4. James Loughrey, Mallow
5. Jamie O’Sullivan, Bishopstown
6. Eoin Cadogan, Douglas
7. Brian O’Driscoll, Tadhg MacCarthaigh
8. Fintan Goold, Macroom
9. Ian Maguire, St. Finbarr’s
10. Mark Collins, Castlehaven
11. Donnacha O’Connor, Ballydesmond
12. Colm O’Driscoll, Tadhg MacCarthaigh
13. Colm O’Neill, Ballyclough
14. Donal Óg Hodnett, O’Donovan Rossa
15. Brian Hurley, Castlehaven
Subs:
16. David Hanrahan, Douglas
17. Conor Dorman, Bishopstown
18. Daniel Hazel, O’Donovan Rossa
19. Stephen O’Donoghue, Ballincollig
20. Michael Cussen, Glanmire
21. Paul Kerrigan, Nemo Rangers
22. Luke Connolly, Nemo Rangers
23. John Hayes, Carbery Rangers
24. John O’Rourke, Carbery Rangers
25. Barry O’Driscoll, Nemo Rangers
26. Kevin O’Driscoll, Tadhg MacCarthaigh
James Loughrey and Brian Hurley start this game having fully recovered from recent injuries picked up in the McGrath Cup competition. Patrick Kelly and Daniel Goulding continue their recovery from injury and were not considered for this game.

Stiles Open at 12:00

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Team is as good as what is available full back line is inexperienced alright.goalie is shocking IMO he's kick outs are causing a lot of the midfield problems the hardly reach the half back line don't mind midfield.

CORKDOUBLE

Lads where has Mark Sugrue gone is he not with U.C.C. this year ? Luke Connolly is a sub on sunday but I think Sugrue is a better player ...they might be small in stature but Alan and Stephen Cronin are brilliant intelligent footballers and ideal corner backs ....interesting I did not see there names on the U.C.C. team in the Sigerson ?

Folers23

solwhit12 wrote: »

Team is as good as what is available full back line is inexperienced alright.goalie is shocking IMO he's kick outs are causing a lot of the midfield problems the hardly reach the half back line don't mind midfield.

I think the team is okay except the 6 backs are lined out in the complete wrong order. Surely lining up like below makes more sense?

2. O'Sullivan
3. Cadogan
4. Loughrey (not ideal)
5. Clancy
6. Clancy
7. O'Driscoll

I think the kick out problem is a mixture of O'Halloran and the midfield being poor if im brutally honest.

sean mac

Folers agree totally,the balance of the defence is alk over the place;cadogan has to be at 3.If kens kickouts havent improved significantly we are in trouble,cant go short too often vs top teams as they will turn you over

sean mac

Folers agree totally,the balance of the defence is alk over the place;cadogan has to be at 3.If kens kickouts havent improved significantly we are in trouble,cant go short too often vs top teams as they will turn you over

thinkstoomuch1

Folers23 wrote: »

I think the team is okay except the 6 backs are lined out in the complete wrong order. Surely lining up like below makes more sense?

2. O'Sullivan
3. Cadogan
4. Loughrey (not ideal)
5. Clancy
6. Clancy
7. O'Driscoll

I think the kick out problem is a mixture of O'Halloran and the midfield being poor if im brutally honest.

I'd switch Sullivan will get burned pace and acceleration on turn so can't be corner back


Full back he's be okay as he stats solid square outstanding league final v mayo
Cadogan should be corner
Obviously other corner has problems
Clancy loughrey much better half back
At push have Clancy not ucc corner

You would think back would change but you never know with this crowd

I mist say be fair Denis hurley give reasoned debate tonight regards cork
I read some utter rubbish day before another journo in cork fans too eccentric and needed chill and relax so what relegated as wouldn't make matter championship v Kerry total wring imo

Denis spot on build coherent unit vital for cork

He said had valid points that winning league not be end all but least agreed to you can't dismiss it totally and more less staying up vital

He did mention the lack coach and said be interested how things shape with ronan Mccarthy

And cuthbert you would think does bulk training

He said pat Flanagan part play likely
Maybe that's case but anyone I ask cuthbhert doing main part it

Now he raises valid point keeping information low key cork coaching may be good
Imo I don't think would affect cork in kerry we all know o Neill coaching, cork under twenty one football we all know gene I's coaching

I agree with concepts coaching drill kept low key but announced coach is no great advantage opposition as all teams you know who coach is

He said a defeat could on back Waterford loss pierce moral further and may be difficult to gain momentum

On other hand he correctly said hasn't happened yet so he said let's not assume all things are doom and gloom and he does say things not perfect by any means but lay off obituaries for a while


Imo well balanced article which I think my view all you want cork fan

Fair point nothing happened yet hopefully I hope cork win Sunday
I hope that if unfortunately cork do loose though that things though are looked at

Be fair all credit due there was acknowledged things far from perfect cork football and as said be that's all you ask for imo honesty Like you see munster rubgy